The Senate will vote later today on a motion to proceed to S.1038 which would extend three expiring provisions of the Patriot Act for four years, with almost no debate. As David Waldman notes, this is the third cloture vote on a motion to proceed in the last four legislative days in the Senate, showing that the “gentlemen’s agreement” to no longer filibuster the motion to proceed is dead and buried. But in this case, those inclined to vote against cloture actually want a real debate on these expiring provisions. Here’s Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR):
Senator Jeff Merkley says he was very concerned when he heard Thursday Senate leaders would move to close debate Monday on a package extending three Patriot Act rules.
Jeff Merkley: “I think it’s outrageous that there’s a proposal for a four-year extension in which the intention is to have no significant debate on the floor of the Senate, and no opportunity for amendments.” [...]
Merkley says he isn’t sure if the extensions will pass, but notes some of his colleagues sounded unhappy about the parliamentary move used to forestall more debate.
Jeff Merkley: “ There is some chance that reaction may be strong enough to change that and turn this into a real debate. Leadership may say we have other things to get to by next Friday. My reaction is we’ve had plenty of time to have a thorough debate on the floor.”
There are three provisions at issue. One, roving wiretaps that allow broad electronic surveillance from the FBI on any phone line or communications device. Two, the ability to access business, medical or virtually all other records of any suspect, regardless of the relationship to terrorism. Three, the “lone wolf” provision to allow surveillance of people with no ties to a terrorist group. Earlier this year, the Congress extended these provisions for 90 days. That expires on Friday.
In addition to Merkley, Sen. Mark Udall (D-CO) opposes the quick reauthorization without debate. He sent an email to his supporters asking for them to sign a petition calling for the reform of the Patriot Act.
Benjamin Franklin once said that any society that would give up essential liberties to pursue security deserves neither and will lose both. Those words ring true today [...]
But while many of the PATRIOT Act’s provisions — which I support — have made our nation safer since the devastating terrorist attacks of 9/11, there are three provisions that fail to strike the right balance between keeping us safe while protecting the privacy rights of Coloradans. Instead, these three provisions have been far too susceptible to abuse by the federal government, even in the name of keeping us safe from terrorism [...]
These three provisions are troubling because they are ripe for abuses that involve expansive government surveillance of innocent people, even though common sense fixes and protections exist if only we were allowed to debate them.
Congress has approved the Patriot Act multiple times without any material statutory improvements. Udall cites “what I’ve learned from my Senate committee service” in saying that these provisions reach too far into the lives of private citizens. Keep in mind that he’s on the Senate Intelligence Committee.
The House may end up the tougher lift for the extension, because of dozens of Republicans who previously voted against a longer-term extension. Despite the objections of Merkley, Udall and others, the Senate is likely to at least advance on the motion to proceed today. This would set them up for final passage Wednesday, giving the House just 48 hours to get their version of the bill done.
UPDATE: The Senate passed cloture 74-8, so they’ll proceed to the bill. Final passage is expected Wednesday.




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Primary them all. Even Obama.
I agree. Especially Obama. It’s the best thing we can do.
A Rand Paul supporter had posted this Action Alert on MyFDL…
Action Alert! Patriot Act Cloture vote scheduled for 5pm Monday in Senate…
Lead paragraph from Huff.Post, story by Sam Stein – “White House Beefs Up Online Rapid Response”
“The Obama administration has created and staffed a new position tucked inside their communications shop for helping coordinate rapid response to unfavorable stories and fostering and improving relations with the progressive online community.”
I wonder how many aliases these PAID sophists will post under? It’s a darned shame “Clarence Thomas” Obama didn’t spend his first two years in the WH fighting to enact is campaign promises, instead of catering to the same corporate & elitist interests as “Chauncey” Bush. But, I guess Progressives should be pleased – one more person has a job.
ESPECIALLY Obama!
The Democratic Party senate game plan in a nutshell; Dem senators refuse to debate.
I think you now see that Democrats were only criticizing the Patriot Act to win your votes, not because they disagreed with it.
They saw an opening to bash the GOP and make themselves look good, and took it.
And, who can blame them? It was bought hook, line and sinker as they knew it would.
Why do you think Obama has, in actuality, changed very little of Bush policy? The Democrats, with few exceptions, agreed with what Bush was doing but didn’t want to say so–least their supporters abandon them.
Why do they need a stinkin’ patriot act. O doesn’t need anyone’s stinkin’ permission to do anything to anyone.
BTW, congress set to pass perpetual war act with no debate also. But what the hey.
Maybe Jesse Lee, the Obama Administration’s new “Director of Progressive Media & Online Response” would care to defend his Boss from the charges Glenn Greenwald brings forward in, “How would a Patriot Act?, Defending American Valeus from a President run amok”?
Yup – now every time I see a troll, I’ll be asking “Jesse Lee, is that you?”
No elected official cares if he gets re-elected when they have guaranteed employment (at a much higher wage) with those they helped the most while in a position of influence – whether it’s corporations or lobbyists.
I’ve been known to make that point in the past year. Seeing the behavior of the pols inevitably draws one to that conclusion.
Geez. Wingnut trolls & now O trolls. Gonna keep us busy.
A few lines from Sherwood’s (aka Jesse?) posts in response to comments on a Marci piece, a week ago Sat.
“One would wish for self-styled “tru liberals” to be able to recognize deeply progressive poverty fighting legislation but following Jane’s unfortunate example, some don’t.”
” the Finance Reg bill … is the first new major regulation of an industry since the rise of Reagan and Thatcher ….”
And, here’s my favorite: “Obama has his discontents among liberals, especially among netroots. But they’re a minority and dwarfed by his discontents among e.g. blue dogs. It’s just that they scream the loudest.”
Welcome Jesse, err Sherwood. Bring your “A” game, that’s the least FDL deserves from Obama.
I’d love to know who the 8 against were. Went to Thomas, but couldn’t find yeas and nays yet.
Just want to remind peeps that it’s OBAMA and the DEMOCRATIC PARTY that own’s this now. Can’t blame the Patriot Act on the Republican Party ANY LONGER.
The Democrats not only have a majority in the Senate, they have way way way more than 40 Senators to use the filibuster to prevent this. If they wanted to.
I’m sure those Democratic partisans will try some sort of bullshit to continue to blame the Republicans, but after today, there is NO WAY possible they deserve the blame. It is now Obama AND the Democrats that own the Patriot Act, torture, tax cuts for the rich, wars, all of it. Now someone tell me how that’s any different than the Republican party.
Maybe this is still a “starter” Patriot Act, that they’ll improve over time. About the same time health care “reform” gets improved and the Bush tax cuts are rescinded…
I’m pretty sure this is completely inconsequential. The expiration of these provisions of the Patriot Act would have in no way established any constraints. The Executive would have just gone on doing what it’s doing regardless.
I guess it’s a nice bit of formality that it’s all technically “nice and legal,” but it’s still nothing but a formality.
I have no idea why that went as a reply to OFG. It was supposed to be standalone.
Just a less offensive way of Rahm’s FU to progressives.
You get the “made me laugh” reward of the day. Sad as that is…
OT – Jane’s on Cenk’s show right now.
On second thought, and in a (temporarily) more serious vein, it shows how out of touch with the voters Beltway types are. Not that it matters to them.
Great panel too…! ;-)
Looks like he’s a student of The Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation
Jump in anytime, Jessie Lee, something posted here you want to defend your Boss against? After all, we are lucky to have him. My goodness, if we think this is bad, just think what those “#$%^&*” Republicans would’ve done!
At least Senate Democrats are consistent. They’ve rolled over and played dead on the Florida recount, the Bush tax cuts, the Patriot Act, the Iraq War resolution, the Patriot Act renewals and telecom immunity, the the Military Commissions Act, not pursuing Bush administration war crimes, etc., etc.
The world’s oldest political party has become the world’s biggest obstacle to progress.
Brush up your Goebels ,start quoting him now…….etc
dang
Everyone who game to Obama and the Democrats in 2006 and 2008 should demand a refund. And everyone who incurred out-of-pocket expenses trying to elect Democrats ought to send Tim Kaine a voucher.
LOL
meant to ask you,how the knee is doing after the bike ride? is you in one piece,or fallin apart?
debate,cant remember the last debate…oh Alan Grayson where are you? yooo who
Bicycle riding is just like riding a bicycle. Worked like a charm. Thanks for asking.
good that
Fact of the matter we are not a democracy,that’s been long evident but every 2 & 4yrs the corporate foot soldiers in the media goes full throttle with the propaganda that we live in a democratic society.
We are no more a democracy than the one in Iran,you know the country that every corrupt political office holder lambastes for not implementing “democratic reforms” whatever that means.
Iranian Govt spy on their citizens,Out Govt does the same.Iranians aren’t allowed to protest their Govt without permission,Our Govt does the same to us etc,etc.I can go on & on.
And both are run by the ‘clerics,’ whether that means Islamic clerics of corp clerics, makes no never mind.
The “whole hog” on the Patriot Act
Note: Here are three salient paragraphs on the Patriot Act, and via the web site of the Chicano Veterans Organization.
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Therefore, the “impact” from any of these three provisions, will have an everlasting impact on our Future and the Future of America, writ large, commencing in an approximately forty years from today, when we, the Native Americans and the Chicanos, become the “majority” of the “majority” of American citizens and this means “racial and ethnics.” Thusly, understanding “history” is advisable, even if you’re not an “expert” or a credentialed historian.
Today, when it comes to “addressing” our National Security and Defense Schematic, is HR 1561, and which is being co-sponsored by the Ranking Member of the House Select Committee on Intelligence, Silvestre Reyes of Texas and his two progressive allies, Congressmen, Raul Grijalva and Ed Pastor, both of Arizona. To wit, they are attempting to beef up the Ports of Entrys (Customs). In contrast, the Border Patrol has been upgraded 800 percent, while the Ports of Entrys have fallen into a virtual state of disrepair.
In closing, our National Security and Defense Schematic, is far more intent on spending monies that are not available, unless national borrowing is increased, while the “danged fence” crowd has no serious inclination for addressing comprehensive immigration reform. Today, the local “experts” of both Native Americans and Chicanos recognize that over 50 percent of the undocumented immigrants came through the Ports of Entry. Additionally, over 50 percent of the illegal drugs came through these same Ports of Entry. Now, put that in your pipe, and “smoke it!”
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Jaango
Rand Paul’s 11 minutes: http://youtu.be/A1tIBSV0fnY
Will there be an opportunity for someone to hold this up like health care?
Does anybody understand the arcane parliamentary maneuvering going on here? Letting these people make their own rules is like giving a hyperactive child a flame-thrower to play with.
Speaking of the little devil
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2011/05/23/for-health-insurance-exchanges-to-work-we-must-all-be-actuaries-and-fortune-tellers/#comment-146969
This has long passed the point of being funny. Dems just like repubs, obama just bush lite. What are we going to do? This is no longer a joke. Every day there are stories on here, how we are being raped and abused, and we need to take ACTION. Posting on here is not action. no vote confidence, while good is not enough.
What are we going to do. I am serious, as are all of you. We need a plan, we need it now, and we need to fight back right now
I don’t know why people don’t believe Einstein’s old axiom about insanity and keep voting for these tools like Reid
From the FISA debate
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2007/08/04/democrats/index.html
I heard an Obama clip of his speach today in Irland I think and believe it or not he was shouting, I kid you not “yes we can” . How fucking funny is that. He almost choked getting it out.
Question: On Cloture on the Motion to Proceed (Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to Consider S. 1038 ) – Voting Results
Senators voting NAY:
Baucus (D-MT)
Begich (D-AK)
Heller (R-NV)
Merkley (D-OR)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Paul (R-KY)
Sanders (I-VT)
Tester (D-MT)
If one agrees, like I do, that the security state is the greatest threat we face, how can one vote for Obama after this?
To say nothing of Dianne Feinstein who still–still!–doesn’t have a re-election opponent, despite being a perennial candidate for the Joseph I. Lieberman asshole award.
YES! I guess this means one alias down, ….
One of the reasons I’m so upset that I fell for Obama’s tripe in ’08 is, when you blow by his remarkable oratory, “Clarence Thomas” Obama is patently obvious. NEVER have I seen a President who harbors so much disdain for the middle-class and NEVER have I seen a President who’s worse at hiding his disdain for the people who elected him. He MUST be primaried if the Dems are to hold on to anything.
This is a RON Paul supporter, not a RAND Paul supporter!
There is no difference.
It is worth pointing out that only three Republicans, four Democrats and one Independent voted against the cloture. On the whole though, Democrats and Republics alike voted in union to squelch debate and move forward as quickly as possible with keeping the Constitution in suspension. If we needed a clear demonstration that America is now a single-party State, today was it.
There were also a whole lot of cop outs, who sat out the vote. Six of those were Democrats and twelve were Republicans, many of them Republicans freshman, Tea Partiers, who may be keeping their heads low out of fear, but who are most likely going to be very susceptible to furor of their constituency if they remain spineless. Hopefully their supports will be better at holding them accountable then Obama’s supporters have been at holding him accountable (which is to say, not at all).
The most succinct, detailed, and perhaps a little too dispassionate argument against the PATRIOT Act was presented today by Rand Paul, R-KY, the guy almost every liberal in America spent the last year-and-half hating with the passion of a religious fanatic. That’s almost as ironic as the fact that it is now the Middle East that is on the verge of a freedom revolution, as America’s political parties jointly work together (you’ve got to love that word, “bipartisan”) to sells a once proud, free country into the bondage of a bunch of international corporatist bankers.
Maybe spending all that time undermining Ron Paul four years ago wasn’t such a good idea. Strange how bad karma comes back to bite you in the ass.
Obama brain have already been consume by the zombies in Zombie Land.As for The Patriot Act, they needed something beside all those Sedition Acts and Smith Act of 1940. They had already had this rose in waiting. I remember NSA advisor John Poindexter purposing something like this when Reagan was President. He got allot political flax from those weasels ,so he shelved it. They just needed a new crisis to put their plans into action. I repeat”a rose by any other name is till a rose”. Look at Shakespeare”s New Rose “The Patriot Act”.
Manchurian candidate sucessfully elected president