Steny Hoyer confirmed today what was already reported by several outlets, that the Biden debt limit talks today will take a look at Medicare.
After arguing that Democrats made significant headway toward extending Medicare’s solvency with the health care law, Hoyer said, “Do I believe that there are other things we can do related to Medicare? The answer is I do. I’m not going to get into articulating each one, but my expectation is they will be under discussion by the Biden group.”
In the Affordable Care Act, Democrats cut future expenditures for Medicare by $500 billion, mainly through eliminating wasteful Medicare Advantage payments. President Obama expressed in his fiscal policy speech a desire to use the Independent Payments Advisory Board (IPAB) to restrain the growth of Medicare spending through a variety of cost-control methods. So the idea that Democrats want to reduce costs of Medicare is nothing new. But Republicans already won an election in 2010 based on the Medicare cuts in the ACA (even though those same cuts are in the Paul Ryan budget). And they don’t seem willing to even allow the IPAB board members a Senate confirmation, which means that those methods of cost control would not be available.
So that means that, in the interest of common ground, we could see a proposal like increasing cost sharing in Medicare. It would be astounding for Democrats to do so, coming off of a successful effort to blame Republicans for… increasing cost sharing in Medicare, by ending the program and giving seniors a too-small coupon to purchase health insurance.
Let’s be clear that ANY Medicare cuts Democrats push forward will get subject to an attack from the left by Republicans, just as they did in 2010. They don’t really care about consistency.
Sen. Chuck Schumer vowed yesterday to make the Medicare changes in Paul Ryan’s budget a defining campaign issue for Senate Republicans in 2012 — but Republicans plan to respond by reviving criticism of cuts to the Medicare Advantage program that were built into the 2010 health care bill…
“He and every other Senate Democrat went on to vote for it.” one Republican staffer emails. “We’d agree with Schumer that in races such as this Medicare will be a key issue.”
Republicans ran hard on the issue of Medicare cuts during the 2010 campaign — and it was part of the reason that senior citizens swung so hard towards GOP candidates.
Republicans are looking very closely at the Biden talks as the potential lifeline to get them out of the mess they created for themselves on Medicare. Democrats could actually hand them that lifeline, foolish as it may be.




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They will hurl a big fat, bipartisan life preserver into the water.
Grand Bargain: Millionaires will see no tax increases, seniors and the disabled will either pay more or get less. They might even throw in some tax cuts just for good measure.
Invest in Johnson & Johnson, makers of KY Jelly… that’s my advice cuz ya better get ready to bend over and take it…
Everyone at this site knew this was coming. The D’s have a WINNING issue on Medicare and Medicaid and the R’s know they screwed the pooch with Ryan’s plan.
Leave it to the D’s to let them off the hook…again.
I really wish there was a way to make the Progressive wing of the party more viable than it is now.
They have convinced themselves they can hide behind a “bipartisan” deal.
Maybe their opponent can’t campaign on the issue, but there will be a huge anti-incumbent movement against both parties.
Sometimes the evil planned by the governmental parties, both dim and repug, is so overwhelming that it leaves me breathless. We have been over the rotteness time and time again, so I’m not going to give examples or links. The whole governmental process works against us and will probably always be that way.
The Dems aren’t letting anyone off the hook, they’re following the script. This is a united front effort, whatever little fake scuffle act they put on for the rubes.
Perfect Uniparty behaviour. This is exactly as it should be. There is no unwitting throwing of a lifeline here. This is exactly how the Uniparty wants things to go. Kill the Uniparty. Throw all its officers (this is many, many thousands of people) in jail.
Steny is saying “no lube this time, serfs”.
There is absolutely room for a bipartisan agreement. The agreement should be that both major parties are acting against the interests of the American people.
Vote NO to both parties.
so when the Catfood Commission’s non-proposals become enacted into law by this Congress, will somebody please explain to me why i should vote for any assclown with “D” behind their name?
Here they go again, letting the right run the show. These damned Democrats will never learn, once again they’re taking a winning hand and showing no one knows how to turn victory into deafeat better than the modern Democratic party. There is no way the Republicans will defy their paymasters on wall street, but as usual, it’s always the Democrats that bail their ass out. Now I hope these damned weak-kneed bastards understand once they strike this “Grand Bargain” they can kiss 2012 goodbye. The one thing they had to beat the right over the heads with, their disastrous Medicare plan, they’ll lose. And make no mistake the right will use this against them. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, WE’RE SCREWED! If these are the people we’re looking towards to save this nation, WE’RE FREAKING SCREWED!!!!!
Please make the life line so there feet don’t touch the ground. Why in hell would want to help them, oh right he works for 0.
The Democrats only pretend to act weak and be bad at negotiating – that way the Republicans can be vilified for the Democrats own actions.
Exactly.
Dems aren’t “caving,” or whatever. They’re doing as directed by their corporate overlords. At this point, there isn’t even much Kabuki Show.
It’s pretty blatant, but other than here, do YOU see citizens protesting this?? I am still getting blather from my trad-Dem pals about how it’s all the “fault” of the “obstructive Republicans.”
GAH! Wake up, sheeples… YOU are about to be royally screwed, and yeah: Steny ain’t providing no lube this time around…
Hey Hoyer, are bombs for Jesus on the table too?
Of course not, the war profiteers need their money and the lobbyist theirs to pay off the politicians so that they’ll pass legislation against the interest of their own constituents.
I stopped calling C-SPAN the dog & pony show. Now, I call it by its appropriate name…. A Freak Show.
You know damn well the minute Wall Street gets even a little anxious, the debt limit will be raised. Stupid game of chicken and those of us in the lower economic tiers get thrown under the bus just before it goes over the cliff.
Medicare & Social Security were always on the table.
Obama’s deficit commission made that perfectly clear more than a year ago. Maybe two…I’ve lost track.
There is but one party.
Anyone who thinks there’s any difference between the Ds and Rs has not been paying attention.
Jon Walker said it best…”The often praised “bipartisanship” is rarely ever the product of both parties coming together around what the people want, and almost always about using each other as cover to avoid electoral consequences for voting in opposition to the will of the electorate.”
“It’s pretty blatant, but other than here, do YOU see citizens protesting this?? I am still getting blather from my trad-Dem pals about how it’s all the ‘fault’ of the ‘obstructive Republicans.’”
Look at MoveOn for instance who took down their General Betray Us ads once Obama nominated Petreus…they and others show they are the real betrayers. Democrats don’t seem to mind Gitmo, indefinite detention, tax cuts, etc now that Obama is in office.
Bingo!
If the democrats do wind up throwing republicans a life preserver that will be the final straw for me. I will get out of politics all together and never look back. I won’t support another politician ever again. I have had it with the spineless jellyfish that inhabit the democratic party today.
Shove it, Hoyer, you bucktooth son of a bitch.
Could?
Yeah, but I think they are looking at this as Dem vs Rep, while the rest of the country are looking at it us vs Washington.
If these conservadems are stupid enough to let the Repubs off the hook for voting to end Medicare, then we will probably lose the Senate along with the house. Obama willm be Ok, since the teabaggers will force them to run some kind of Palin/Gomert ticket. He can ride in as the deal maker above partisan fray. The house and senate will be giving up the most energizing issue. Steny, nobody outside of Washington cares about bi-partisanship. They just want results. Cutting Medicare when you could not stop the oil subsidies make you look weak and bought. With this proposal, Steny is calling for the end of the Democratic party as we know it. I wonder if he is going to give each of us Democrats a voucher.
The Dems are being told what to do by Peterson and his sidekick Obama…the Dems are just an arrogant bunch of bastards who think progressives will have no place to go and will vote for them no matter what the GOP slops up…you know what? Screw them ALL…3rd party for me..even if this ship goes down I will have a clear mind that I did not and will not support these pricks!