Elizabeth Warren faces a House Financial Services Subcommittee today. The hearing is called “Who’s Watching the Watchmen? Oversight of the Consumer Protection Bureau.” It’s chaired by Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-NC), one of the more ideological conservatives in Congress, who has been at the forefront of the move to gut the CFPB before it gets off the ground. And in his opening remarks today, he basically accused Warren of lying.
In that same appearance, Professor Warren testified that the bureau’s role in ongoing mortgage settlement negotiations was limited to “advice.” Since her testimony, however, Congress received evidence that Professor Warren and the bureau were deeply involved in the negotiations. The emergence of the bureau’s “Settlement Presentation,” and the fact that Professor Warren has been in dozens of meetings with federal and state officials about these settlements raises concerns about the veracity of her testimony.
This hearing, however, is not a confirmation hearing for Professor Warren. This hearing is about the mission, policy, and structure that affect the creation and implementation of the bureau. It is also about the need for critical oversight of an agency which has so vast oversight authority over large portions of the American economy. Simply stated, who’s watching the watchmen?
We’ve been over this. Somehow, McHenry thinks that giving advice to the global settlement efforts of state AG is not consistent with Warren’s insistence that her bureau was giving advice. It’s a willful misreading of her comments in an attempt to gin up controversy. And clearly, he’s setting up a point of attack over Warren should she be appointed to head the agency, that she lied to Congress. It’s a serious charge backed up by nothing.
Some Democrats agree with McHenry that Warren should not be named as the head of the CFPB. They want her to run for Senate in Massachusetts instead.
Officials in the Democratic Party are wooing Elizabeth Warren to run for the Senate against the Massachusetts Republican Scott P. Brown rather than have her continue to set up the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
Ms. Warren has become a lightning rod for controversy over the new agency, which she conceived and is helping create. Consumer groups and some Democrats have demanded her appointment as its first director. A group of 44 Senate Republicans, with applause from the financial industry, has promised to block any nominee.
In seeking to enlist Ms. Warren for a different campaign, Democrats are taking aim at two birds. They can lay the groundwork for a potential compromise over a different candidate to lead the new agency and, they hope, they can increase their chances of reclaiming Mr. Brown’s seat by sending against him a woman who has won considerable acclaim and popularity among liberals for taking on the financial industry.
Basically there’s a “Draft Elizabeth Warren” campaign on Daily Kos and some unnamed officials “urging” a run, although Harry Reid has apparently talked to Warren about running. It’s pretty clear that Warren would have more authority over her biggest concern, the safety of consumers in financial transactions, at CFPB. If she runs for Senate, it’s a safe way to take her out of the running for that position, with no guarantee that she’ll actually beat Scott Brown and win in 2012.
I think it would make more sense to keep Warren with her core competency at this point. The pressure on the White House to recess appoint her is having an impact. Nobody else has a better shot at fending off attacks to the agency. She should keep at it.
UPDATE: Strong defense from Rep. John Yarmuth (D-KY), basically telling Warren that Republicans are afraid of her:




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Wow. I really don’t know what to say. May the force be with Elizabeth Warren!
Someone in the WH is trying really really hard to torpedo Warren without having their fingerprints on it. If Obama was really about fair play she’d be in the job and she would serve the country well. However, that isn’t what the Obama WH [riddled with Timmeh G and Benny B], GOP, and Wall Street want since Warren would actually enforce the law and stop the pillaging of the middle class. So we have the current kabuki to [theoretically] mollify the progressive wing, the ones that believe in fair play and the rule of law, to extend long enough to get what the bankers want.
Obama makes several miscalculations here: there is no way that Wall Street will ever support him given a viable or even moderately loony alternative [just look at the WSJ editorial page], there is no way the GOP will ever support him in any way [lots of evidence for that, plus they'd get primaried by teabaggers], and most importantly there is no way that the progressive wing will accept the story line quietly or that the voters run out of their houses and jobs by bankster follies will forget that happened.
Ah yes, so that’s how Obama will get out of nominating her to the commission. By drafting her to run in the Senate.
I said long ago he would never nominate her, and he tried the hiring her in the White House thing, but that didn’t shut the critics up, so now he’s going to use this “out.”
And the apologists will watch his back, claiming Warren would be such a good Senator, while not saying a word when they discover he’s nominated a GS wannabe at the commission.
And on it goes, as onitgoes is wont to say.
Those Dems pushing her for a Senate run – especially the gutless and compromised OBAMABOTS like CHRIS BOWERS over at the gutless and compromised Dailykos – wre trying to neutralize her. They can not abide her criticisms of Obama’s gutless and compromised response to the financial crisis vis-a-vis the middle and working classes and would love to shut her up. They’d probably even vote against her once she agreed to run because she doesn’t play the neoliberal bullshit game shared by both the GOP and the Democrats.
I think she’s way too smart for that. I expect her to stay out of electoral politics.
Unless, of course, she is prepared to PRIMARY OBAMA, in which case I’d go all out for her no matter what her chances.
The national Democrats are a disaster.
Fuck ‘em.
De-elect Obama in 2012.
Speaking of that piece of shit dirtbag McHenry, here’s his bribe list. Plenty of that bank & investment money. Interesting to note that he’s getting a lot of money from the large accounting firms, as well.
Because God knows, one shouldn’t know WTF is going on before giving advice…
I thought there was already an African-American war veteran who announced that he planned to run for Scott Brown’s senate seat. It was this announcement that scared Brown into requesting that his National Guard duty this year be spent in Afghanistan to counter this guys service record.
Googling “Rep.Patrick McHenry R-NC,” It seems that Little Patty is deep in the closet!
Every now and again, some porker at one of the Carolinas’ innumerable factory hog farms gets through a fence (or more likely is judged too odious to sell or slaughter and simply set loose)and we wind up with squealing little hoglets like McHenry in Congress.
Let ‘em secede.
I’d love to see Warren stay where she is and Maria Shriver run for Scott Brown’s seat…win win.
I was wondering when this closeted munchkin member of the “Lollypop Kids” was going to show up in the news again. The last time we saw him was when Barney Frank was mopping the floor with his sorry ass. If you have not seen this before, check it out. See little wormy twit McHenry knocked about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcdai100SOM
As I write this, there are six comments. Best I can say here is to advise anyone to read or reread them all. Couldn’t have said it better.
Getting her into the senate is a way of co-opting and neutralizing her. The senate is all about going along to get along. Its what they did with Obama. Look how well that worked out.
Thanks for the post & update. Didn’t we all expect something like this? I mean, seriously, did anyone here at FDL expect someone like Warren, who, you know, will actually – gasp shudder the horror – do the purported JOB that this role implies and, you know, actually – shriek moan sob – do something to defend the “small people” – did we here really think that Obama would appoint Warren? That Dem pols would “defend” her? That the Thugs wouldn’t play dirty hard ball?
I feel for Warren. What an ugly mug’s game this all is. Best wishes to he. I have no idea what kind of a “chance” Warren has. If the greedy pigs are gonna squeal already just bc Warren’s “doing her job”… doesn’t bode well.
Good luck to us all, but most esp to Ms. Warren.
Exactly. I don’t want to see Warren in the Senate where she’d be effectively “neutralized.” A complete waste. But a great game plan from the perspective of the PTB… just saying… (not what I want).
Shriver lives in CA, so it’d be difficult, to say the least, to suddenly have her domicilied in MA. My bet is that Shriver will leverage the sympathy she is “getting” – due to Ahhhnold’s betrayal – into a good paying gig in the media. But only time will tell.
How long does a recess appointment last?
I think she would be best for the job but if it is only for a relatively short time ….. In any case you know her time would be filled with made up controversy and that could inhibit anything she trys to do.
I don’t know as though she could beat Brown anyway,but I think she would make a good candidate. I would leave it up to her, but I lean she runs for senate since I think she will be a cause celeb where she is now.
McHenry is a sleeze bag! I’m currently trying to figure out why Graham who was re-elected in 2008 says he is not up for re-election again until 2014. Is there some reason why or that I haved missed that jerks like this serve 6 year terms now?
Ah, I was wondering when someone would bring that up:
I’m finding more and more that pols are using the homestead tax exemption, but let a 200 year old family farm have one? Nope, not a chance!
“Is there some reason why or that I haved missed that jerks like this serve 6 year terms now?”
The only reason jerks serve six years now is when they’re called Senators. At least that’s the only reason I can think of. Unless they’ve changed things, it’s only Senators that serve six year terms.
But the rest of the Constitution has been torn apart, perhaps that part has too.
Thanks, OFG. I was brought up old school on the Constitution. I was positive it said 4 year terms.
I think this might be one reason:
http://gawker.com/5715809/is-lindsey-graham-about-to-get-outed
Yep. Even his old GOP buds here in the state are on a major hate for him now. Anyway, being a Carolinian we have to watch both states closely because they seem to copycat each other in most instances. The new Governor here is nothing but another Teahadist!
Elizabeth who?
Oh! You mean:
Elizabeth-I-like-being-used-by-Obama-as-a-liberal-dog-yummy-Warren, for lo, these many, many, months.
I would refer to her as “that poor woman”, except she is clearly willing to fulfill the role, albeit with some neck-damage from being dangled in front of progressives for all this time.
Just think, if, by some perverse political chance, Barack Obama CAN win a second term, she could break all the records for nominee-in-waiting.
Shorter me: about 6 months into this fucking centrist charade, I lost all respect for her, for her complicity in it.
I’d like to see her unseat that hag, DiFi…
YIKES! I just showed some real stupid. Okay, the Constitutional Convention changed it from 4 to 6. MY BAD! ;-(
Has it occurred to you that she may just believe in the agency she dreamed up enough to see this through, thinking that she can actually do some good, instead of walking off in a huff because things haven’t gone the way she, or others, would have liked?
He has more to fear from his repug buddies than from th dems.
Chris Bowers an Obama-bot? The laughter is killing me!
The Mayor of my town – Newton, Ma – will try for the nomination to oppose Brown.
That is a good point but when do you suppose it will ever go her way with a hostile congress? You know, like today? I perceive she is becoming poison to the repugs who will block most anything she says, like lets take a potty break.
It’s going to take someone special to beat Brown.
This is a special provision of the law – the Treasury Sec can name her the head pending a confirmation – and there is no time limit. There is no need for a recess appointment, except a recess appoint is time limited to the end of that Congress – (from Wiki: To remain in effect a recess appointment must be approved by the Senate by the end of the next session of Congress, or the position becomes vacant again; in current practice this means that a recess appointment must be approved by roughly the end of the next calendar year).
I would imagine that if Obama doesn’t recess appoint her she may give it up because it’s apparent that the current Congress isn’t going to accept her. We all know the banksters control Congress and she’s poison to them, ergo poison to Congress. I would not be surprised if Obama doesn’t recess appoint her simply because he’s in the banksters’ pocket as well.
So it would remain in force until end of 2012?
Brown does poll well – Mass does not change horses in mid-stream very often. Depends on the media – as always – but in Mass the college town media can be made to tell the truth on occasion – and there are a lot of college towns.
Yes.
You’re saying O would appoint her?
Well there’s the rub. If only until 2012 I would want her to try and beat Brown since I perceive she would have some support there and equal name recognition and an educational and government background.
That may put Warren in the wheel house.
I have no idea whether he will or not. What I’m saying is that if he doesn’t recess appoint her that will be the end of it. She’ll never be confirmed by the current Congress.
I agree.Congress is never going to confirm her. And if O appoints her it takes her out of the senate race and is another gift to the thugs. And then she will be gone next year and likely with nothing really done.
I will check back to see how this thread ends, but gotta go now.
Not really knowledgeable enough about the intricacies of MA politics to know whether or not Warren could beat Brown. That said, interesting speculation:
run and win Senate race in 2012, be positioned to run for Dem nomination in 2016. (If we’re still, you know, actually having elections then.)
Hypothetical scenario. Warren recess appointed to head agency. Nov 2012 Regressives lose more seats in Senate. Warren could be re-appointed and confirmed by Senate. If Regressives retain enough seats to filibuster her appointment at least she will have had a year and a half to get the agency up and running.
Has Warren expressed any interest in running for the Senate? I think she’s way smarter than that, particularly after what she’s seen out of that “august” body of old reprobates and corporate whores.
Possible. I guess I want to build a decent senate with people whom U can trust. And I really want to get the thugs out of there. I don’t care about the year and a half since I think she will not get much. I feel like she will be wasted there. But I do like her since she seems to care, just a little.
Here’s Howie Klein’s post on the events at the them which involved McHenry: “Who’ll Be The Next Republican Hypocrite To Be Dragged Out Of The Closet Screaming About Media Witch Hunts” (Down With Tyranny, Aug. 31, 2007)
Guess more to be revealed regarding Graham at Mike Rogers’ BlogActive.Com.
SouthernDragon,
Thank you for your comment.
I was about to go apeshit on tanbark but then realized that other commenters such as yourself do a much better job.
tanbark, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but it is just that, an opinion. My opinion is that Elizabeth Warren is a lady, smart, witty, can take any pressure the Rethugs throw at her and come out looking mighty fine in the process.
Like I said, your opinion. It does not count with me.
I would not sign the petition on Kos because I want her to stay where she is.
And may Elizabeth Warren’s force be with us!
That’s vintage Frank. I’ve seen him do as much and more to other POS. And it’s enough to make me cry. Because Frank, with all his brilliance and wit, could have been a progressive force. Instead, when the rubber hits the road, he goes corporate.
Dear Dragon, what’s occurred to me is the sad situation of the progressives who are so emotionally attached to Obama and his “centrist” bullshit of dangling Warren in front of us like a shiny toy that there is no limit to their gullibility.
Which he has been doing for so long now, that no rational conclusion is possible, other than that she is perfectly willing to be so used.
Have you forgotten all of the frabjous-daying that went on when her name was first floated for head of the CFPB? Some of us were so starved for anything remotely resembling a real progressive appointment in his administration, that when it dragged on and on and on, as he degraded the position and did NOT push hard for her while he had the political clout, but instead dawdled until the mid-term ass-whippings, it got to the point that the people still pushing for her were like little puppies all begging for ONE small yummy, to eat. And he hasn’t even given you guys THAT much, but is STILL farting and tap-dancing with what MIGHT be her appointment, and with what kind of regulatory powers she might really have.
If you want to sing Hosannah at him (and her) for this little dog-and-pony show to try to keep liberals from deserting him, then by all means, go to it…but you’re going to be hearing from some of the realists in the party who have had too much of this bullshit.
Incidentally, just as with the mid-terms, you’re also going to be hearing from the voters again, who hired him, in no uncertain terms, to mount the salvage operation after 8 years of the savage idiocy of bush and the republicans, only to find out that for our pains and our enthusiasm, we got bush-lite: a preznint who picked for his Chief of Staff, a man who owns $8 million dollars worth of stock in Morgan-Chase, and who has jacked up the quagmire in Afghanistan and who is currently jaw-boning Maliki to accept years more of the occupation of Iraq.
Compared with those, Elizabeth Warren is a tiny little bauble. Some of you may be distracted by Obama’s unending use of her (with, again, her clear willingness to be so used…) to split progressives, but not all of us are.
DDay, thanks for getting on this one — and I hope you find time to stay on it!
What worries me: it sure looks to me as if Warren has been set up, and worse is yet to come.
Over at NakedCapitalism this morning, a commenter pointed to a CBNC video of the GOP Chair of this House Committee claiming that Warren had ‘lied’ to Congress because a PowerPoint slideshow of recommendations-advice regarding the mortgage crisis, prepared by people in her agency, ‘proved’ that she was ‘more than an advisor’.
Yeah, go figure.
When did PowerPoint = ‘not an advisor’?!
Anyone around here ever put together a PPT show to provide options…? ‘Cause I sure have. I called it ‘advice’ because that’s what it was — advice. Not a mandate, not an edict. Just ‘advice’ in a way that allowed people to see the main points easily.
IIRC, just yesterday the NYT had a story about a potential Senate run by Warren. (I didn’t read it, but maybe someone else saw it…?) I would now assume that was a bit of disinformation deliberately shoved to the NYT by bankster-friendly folks who wanted to insinuate that Warren is just not all that public spirited.
As I type this, there is a front-page headline at NYT that leads to this article, which if I hadn’t seen parts of the hearing today, I would take a rather dark view of Warren’s motives. In other words, this all looks like a bankster setup of Warren to me.
It sure looks to me as if in recent days, the idea that Warren is above the fray and fair-minded have been subverted.
The GOP Chair of this committee tried to do a Carl Levin style get-impatient-with-the-bullshit-providing-witness gig, but for me it did not work at all. It may have worked for the naive and for people who don’t know about Warren, but in my view the GOP Chair was completely over-the-top, unbelievably rude, and had a very clear agenda to demean, smear, and intimidate his witness.
It didn’t work for me, but I think when someone who is trying to benefit the public gets smacked around in this fashion, it is very important to call out the thugs who are bullying.
Thanks for this post; I expect there will be more to come on this one.
My own take – different from most on the thread – is that the insulting GOP behavior today makes it impossible for Obama to appoint anyone else but Warren. If Obama caves to this kind of nasty behavior by GOP bullies, he’s going to lose too much credibility.
With all due respect, tanbark, although I get as emotionally engaged in this hoopla as anyone else, it doesn’t always fill my life like a grey cloud.
The universe is a big place.
I’ve been inside, and outside, the political process and large institutions. Sometimes, you appear to onlookers to be a butt-covering shill but you’re actually biding your time, or collecting more evidence.
I never needed Obama to be a god or a saint.
I never expected Obama to do all the things that I want.
I do believe that if there aren’t perp walks, and if the public does not experience in their own personal lives that the banking system is getting cleaned up and the fraud is getting cleared out, then the system is going to be DOA by Nov 2012 anyway.
There are very, very powerful forces who will consume the federal government for their own benefit, and that’s what he’s up against.
In my view, we’re seeing an epic struggle: there are parties like this GOP House Chair who deliberately, actively spout misinformation. That’s the one problem that we CAN all address, and once the lies and deceptions are better exposed, the system has a prayer of being more productive.
Elizabeth Warren needs to run for PRESIDENT… as an Independent.
She needs to leave the corrput Democratic party… and chart a new path of honesty and integrity.
If she ran as an Independent I would support her and vote for her… if she ran as a Democrat I would not.
Geez, at least the Dems had the decorum to refrain from name-calling when Fredo, Goodling, and that high-pitched traitor from DoJ were testilying in front of congress.
Then again, no Democrat has ever told anyone to go fuck themselves on the floor of the Senate either (In the old days, they just beat opponents over the head with canes).
Old Fat Guy…Old Skinny Granny agrees with you a whole lot.
I don’t think Dems refrain from name-calling out of decorum. No, all their weakness is weakness, none of it is decorum, decorum is a nice cover, though.
Thumbs up on Cheney’s Senate floor “decorum,” however. It doesn’t get brought up nearly enough. There ought to be a CAMPAIGN to keep that alive. What a pretty epitaph on a headstone it would make! GO FUCK YOURSELF. (Oh goody I wish I could get on O’Reilly for that bit of mocking leftie-blog hate speech…)
Thanks to that infamous Senate-floor Cheneyism, we can (if we wanna) respond to EVERY crack made by every oily republican with a simple, “No Dem ever told anyone to go fuck themselves on the floor of the Senate.” Yawn, rinse, repeat. They understand that sort of debating.
Go ahead, start the trend – “GFY.”
Whose fingerprints are on this “Warren for Senate” deception?
She’s where she’s supposed to be. Recess appoint her. Period.
Anyone who can get bin Laden can recess appoint a true consumer champion.