The latest steaming pile of garbage from the right to justify continued inaction on the economy is that Obama giving a speech on April 13 sank corporate confidence and ruined everything. Aren’t these the same people who grudgingly admit that Obama gives a good speech, but that actions mean more than mere words? Apparently accurately describing Paul Ryan’s budget was an action all by itself.
Actual things have happened since April 13, including higher gas prices, falling housing prices, and two more months of an economy that simply cannot support itself without stimulative economic measures that aren’t coming to the rescue. I’d put my money on those factors more than somebody making Paul Ryan cry. And there’s also this question:
Which is more likely to subtract from business confidence: a lame speech by the president – or a highly credible and sustained threat by the majority party in the House of Representatives to force a default on the debts, contracts, and other obligations of the United States?
That’s still happening, you know, and according to Stan Collender it is starting to have a market effect. The credit agencies actually are warning that they will downgrade US debt in the event of default, and whatever their reasons or their credibility, that has an impact. In addition:
The best indication of all that the market has already started reacting negatively is the current trading of credit default swaps on U.S. debt. As of late May, the number of CDS contracts — essentially insurance policies on the possibility of a default — had risen by 82 percent. Equally as important, the cost of a CDS — the best indication of how much riskier U.S. debt has become — rose by more than 35 percent from April to May. Last week I spoke to a number of people who calculate such things for a living, and they said this change means that the interest rate the U.S. government has to pay has already increased by as much as 40 basis points compared with what it otherwise would be. This means higher federal borrowing costs and deficits, and overall higher interest rates on everything from car loans to mortgages to credit cards.
Those aren’t theoretical but very real changes. And this won’t come in a rush – small hits to creditworthiness reflected in increased borrowing costs will just inch up over time up through a default event.
Eric Cantor now says he’s optimistic about a deal. That shouldn’t really come as welcome news until we see what he means by that; he claims that the demand of spending cuts equal to the increase in the debt limit will be met. But in at least some sense, damage has begun.




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If the Rs hijacked the debt limit, Barry handed them the keys. (I learned that from DDay, btw.)
The fact that we are even talking about the debt limit increase is incredible in itself. IMHO there is no way the boys on Wall Street will ever let that happen. A lot of people hold US Treasury bonds. This is just nonsense and Laurel and Hardy theater.
I think Stan Collender is right. These things will change gradually. I especially like his take about the few investors, who might be risk averse. Those people will begin to withdraw from the market and take steps to protect themselves, like selling defense stocks or treasuries. Other securities might also be sold. After a little of this the pace will accelerate. We are likely already seeing it in CDS as Collender notes, but perhaps also in the recent declines in the stock market and, heavens knows, in employment. But what do we do? Pay the blackmail and cut medicare? No, says I.
And there’s also the continuing threat of the US defaulting on the debts, contracts, etc that DDay mentions…
Obama gave a speech and yet continues to do next to nothing to stop these thieving assholes from screwing over the American people and destroying the American economy. The Republicans complaining about his speech is just part of the kabuki: if they appear to be against him, then there’s the appearance of a fight.
The outcome will be: the debt ceiling raised (no brainer), along with the president going along with cuts to important programs, including the gutting of Medicare for future generations.
Obama’s a dick.
Yay, Cantor’s happy. He’s “optimistic about a deal”.
So we’re all totally FUBARed.
And of course WE won’t we totally FUBARed. Just mostly so.
Find the weakest and defenseless. Find the ones on the edge. The very precipitous edge, that looks over the waiting yawn of the void. The ones so desperate and helpless, so utterly devoid of hope, so incredibly buried in the depths of their sorrow and despair. The ones on their knees. The ones who scurry for scraps. The ones long abandoned by society. And those “unlucky” enough to be in these new ranks. Find them.
And then watch as they get totally FUBARed. And just the usual rogering. But the royal kind. The epic kind. The kind that’s felt for a long time after, like the bad taste in your mouth when you throw up.
Those “folks” (are they even folks after society relegates them to their “forever-forgotten/ignored” status), will experience the kind of gutting that us folks can only imagine.
Those who’ve ever worked at a food bank, or a homeless shelter, or a victim’s outreach program know what I’m talking about.
And after they’re done, they come for the rest. The ones who are next in line. The ones who are NOW the weakest and most defenseless. They come for everyone eventually.
A critical problem is that the CRAs are codified in law. Repeal that law and watch the TBTF CRAs F.
The CRAs shouldn’t matter. If the Corporatists are ever held accountable, there will likely be CRA executives — along with The Banksters — going to jail for fraud.
“What Goes Around Comes Around” – Mir (2009)
“. . .The outcome will be: the debt ceiling raised (no brainer), along with the president going along with cuts to important programs, including the gutting of Medicare for future generations . . .”
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Likely so.
But I think the result will include cuts to small but symbolic programs as well. Otherwise there will be credibility issues with the extent of the debt crisis, i.e., some oxen getting gored and while others escape scot-free. Perceptions count, even when it involves only chump change.
And then the Administration has a worsening problem with how to increase tax revenues. The $250k cutoff between middle and high incomes won’t produce enough revenue, yet it’s where Obama hung his hat in the ’08 campaign and more recently. A few minions there suggested the “real” figure would be $150k, they know better and are willing to say so, but that seemed to be an Obama-less trial balloon. He’s in a bind with an election coming up, and I think it’s all being shunted aside now.
The public at large doesn’t seem on board with the seriousness and the need to act timely in this, i.e., right now.
There would be some tempting things to avoid for sure, e.g., like helping Europe help Greece, but I wouldn’t doubt Merkel and Obama were talking about such over dinner at the 1789. What next?
BTW regarding my comment/example of $ to Greece. . .
See what I mean? http://www.cnbc.com/id/43321461
Send Obama a stern, “No, you don’t!” message on this.