According to the Los Angeles Times, President Obama on Wednesday will announce a withdrawal of 10,000 US troops from Afghanistan by the end of the year – a reduction of 10%, more than Gen. David Petraeus wanted. Petraeus and the Pentagon reportedly had wanted a token withdrawal of one brigade, roughly 3-4,000 combat troops.
Combined with the earlier report of all the surge troops leaving by the end of next year, which LAT corroborates (though they add that it may take until early 2013 to remove them), there would be force numbers of around 90,000 US troops in Afghanistan at the end of 2011, and 70,000 at the end of 2012. There are around 40,000 NATO troops from member countries in Afghanistan as well; some of those may be leaving in the coming years as well.
So any way you slice it, we’re looking at more US troops in Afghanistan at the end of Obama’s first term than at the beginning. He increased the force by 20,000 at the beginning of 2009, even before the “second surge.”
And beyond the raw numbers, there is no sense yet of whether or not the withdrawal will accompany a change in strategy. We know that the US has tried to facilitate peace negotiations to flip members of the Taliban; will that be foregrounded? The territorial gains have been fragile; can they be sustained? We know that operations will shift from Helmand Province and Kandahar in the south, to the east of the country; what does this mean for the south and the force presence that remains? And most important, will there be any rethinking of the counter-insurgency operation, which has yielded few results, in favor of a limited counter-terrorism mission, particularly in the wake of bin Laden? The signs point to no there:
White House and Pentagon officials said the decision to begin bringing out troops did not signal a shift in strategy away from counterinsurgency-style warfare and toward a so-called counter-terrorism approach that emphasizes pursuing Al Qaeda members and other insurgent leaders.
From a pure numbers standpoint, this is unlikely to placate anyone in Congress. This leaves close to the same amount of troops in Afghanistan for another six months to a year – another Friedman unit, as Atrios would say. 204 House members, including all but 8 Democrats, voted last month to accelerate the withdrawal. This announcement would represent only an acceleration from David Petraeus’ best hopes.
From a strategy standpoint, it’s even worse: basically “stay the course,” a course which almost nobody independent of the Administration has said is working. The killing of bin Laden could have offered a rethinking of the strategic mission in Afghanistan, but we’re still apparently going to partner with a corrupt leader, building little of value other than a massive security force that represents almost all of the country’s GDP.
Over the weekend, Rep. Jim McGovern (D-MA) floated the possibility of permanent bases in Afghanistan as an end goal, from which to launch covert CIA and JSOC attacks throughout the region. Certainly, the slowness of the drawdown tends to point in that direction. In that sense, perhaps the bigger announcement than this one on troops is any announcement on the details of a status of forces agreement between the US and Afghanistan.
UPDATE: FDL alum Spencer Ackerman writes that the Taliban talks matter far more than the troop numbers, because the talks represent the only way out.
That means the key criteria for determining how the Afghanistan war will end won’t be how fast the drawdown goes. It’ll be how the drawdown supports the peace talks. Obama could float temporary halts in hostilities to entice the Taliban to more serious negotiations. Or he could say that the fighting will continue in intensity if the Taliban are intransigent. It could go any number of ways.
But if Obama’s Wednesday speech doesn’t explain how the drawdown supports a political strategy for ending the war, it’ll mean one thing: he has no idea how to get out of Afghanistan.
UPDATE II: We now have word that Obama will address the nation tomorrow night at 8pm ET “to lay out his plan for implementing his strategy — first unveiled in December 2009 — to draw down American troops from Afghanistan.” So it’s a plan of a strategy.




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Sounds like more of that moronic, split-the-difference style of leadership.
It’s not really “split the difference.” It’s more like give the general and the MIC 90 percent of that they want, denying them just enough so that the Los Angeles Times and others can say he’s withdrawing “a bigger number than Gen. David Petraeus wanted” — woo, hoo, that’s big news, what boldness, the President isn’t giving his co-President everything.
But, but, but…
What about all those surge troop numbers, plus the additional placements since the surge? I don’t see a real reduction, just more fakery for the purpose of nooze and closer election tactics!
Yeah. They will keep themselves in there, spending our tax dollars to rebuild the country. It’s a damn shame they can build roads, bridges, new state of the art electric grids, etc there, but the US can’t have anything!
I hear there’s a 50% off sale on the previously 200% marked up items down at the local discount furniture store too. What a deal.
If you are going to fight a war (I’m channelling McCain and his ilk here), you commit the resources it takes to get it done.
If you aren’t fighting a war, you turn around and leave, taking ALL troops and leaving NO bases, permanent or otherwise.
This is now America’s longest-lasting war, and we aren’t any closer to “victory” (which nobody has bothered to define) than we were when Commander Codpiece sent us there. Here’s a little rule they should teach at West Point, but probably don’t: “If you can’t win, you’ve lost.”
We’ve lost.
So Prez O is showing Petraus who’s boss by taking a whopping 10% more troops than the purely cosmetic drawdown he wanted. Obama’s spineyness is a thing to behold.
Who exactly is going to vote for Obama because of this? Not the hawks, not the doves, and the unwashed masses in between won’t even notice.
Bad policy, bad politics. Just bad.
Yep! Those sales are really a trick aren’t they?
woop te do.
At that rate we’ll be out in twenty years.
EVERYTHING MUST GO! We’re going out of business!
(so we can set up shop in the next town)
Help. I’m starting to see the world as an endless series of marketing scams.
second paragraph is my snarky edit, not a real headline
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen David Dayen:
It is time for an anti-war movement to grow out of the domestic democracy movements that have started in the states all across the midwestern rust belt. I have been sayin for a long time that we can introduce ObamaRahma to LBJ and make Charlotte look like Chicago in ’68. If we succeed in the recalls, by the time that the super primaries come around the entire midwest could be ablaze with all kinds of trained and bloodied opposition to a sitting president workin’ the streets of the largest primary states.
Our politics have been all about corporate wars since 1966 and the only way we unseat established power is to organize against them.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THERE IS NO MIDDLE IN A WAR!!
OT, but a WH spokesperson is saying the Obama feels that same sex marriage is a matter for individual states to decide. Isn’t that the rationale used by the slave states? I guess he figures he’s got his and for everyone else “fuck you.” A spineless fraud resides in the WH.
10,000 troops out replaced with 15,000 vendors
pathetic
He might not have a spine but he’s got brass balls to sell out the country for his personal gain.
Thanks for the unshocking update. This is just bullsh*t on steroids and a big fat old CHA-CHING to the MIC. Guess O can’t get enough of sucking up to them. Bastards.
what you said…
“Obama could float temporary halts in hostilities”
He’ll offer to temporarilly cease hostilities and then when they are going to meet under an apparent flag of truce, he’ll bomb them all with a drones and say that what he did didn’t fit the definition of hostilities.
Hell, he did that long ago. He dreams of the walnut paneled corner office on Wall Street the banksters have waiting for him.
I figure the Democrats are going to get about 10% of my votes in 2012.
10,000 troops, wow I’m impressed mr. president a&&hole.
Sounds like Obama wants us all to kiss his ass for doing a marginal act that does nothing to really address the problem.
Just like “combat forces” in Iraq, it is all for show. It is all to try to make him appear like he gives a shit.
He doesn’t, he is just trying to get re-elected. Please go away Obama. Please just go away. You pissed away your moment in history. Go to your kush lobbyist position and/or speech tour. Just go away.
No “troop” numbers are accurate without also including the number of mercenaries. If they go up when the “troop” level goes down, the troop level stays the same or increases, at higher cost. If numbers of both troops and mercs go down, that would be a good thing. But the two are joined at the hip and can’t properly be discussed as if they were separate or unrelated things.
A month ago General P said 30,000 on 12/31/2012 was OK with him, and the Pentagon (Gates) said 10,000 by 12/31/2011 was OK.
Who knew the civilian in charge of all this would run away and hide and simply OK what the Military industrial complex/Pentagon wanted, even with GOP support for change.
Obama is a great leader as long as he obeys General P, I guess.
Troop withdrawal is one thing; drone bombings, mercenary armies, covert operations are another. Just because some uniformed soldiers might be coming home doesn’t automatically means our wars have ended. See the quotes by Sec. Gates on residual forces in Iraq to know when a withdrawal doesn’t mean the end of occupation.
Students in my college classes (I am a part-time temp instructor), born in 1990 have grown up never knowing a time when America was at peace for more than a few months. Think about it. The Gulf War, the Balkans, a continuous period of regular hostilities maintaining the sanctions and no-fly zone in Iraq. Then 9/11 and Afghanistan and then Iraq again. Pakistan, Yemen, and now Libya. Hundreds of thousands of troops including the National Guards out of their local communities have been in war under fire for years at a time. It has become so normal that no one even talks about it or questions it.
What is that doing to their minds and their futures? How have we allowed this to happen? What has happened to us? Ten years in Afghanistan, and now five or ten years more?