I’ve written quite a bit about the disregarding of norms by the modern Republican Party. They play a kind of Calvinball, where they make up new rules as they go along if the old ones don’t fit their ends. I have a couple examples of this today.
First, let’s go to, unsurprisingly, Wisconsin, where state Republicans plan to forge ahead with redistricting maps prior to the August recall elections.
Legislative leaders have redrawn maps for the Assembly and Senate and could be ready to vote on them in the coming weeks, but they are closely guarding their plans for their districts and many lawmakers have yet to see them.
Having the maps completed means lawmakers have the option of approving them before recall elections are held this summer that could shift control of the Senate from Republicans to Democrats. Senate leaders declined Thursday to say whether they would do that.
But Assembly Speaker Jeff Fitzgerald (R-Horicon) said he is now sharing maps with Republicans in his house and deciding whether to pass the redistricting plan in July.
“We’ve got them all,” he said of the maps. “We’re meeting with members now, showing them maps.”
If they have the maps drawn, I’d say they’ll go ahead and pass them.
Here’s why this violates a norm. The ward lines for Wisconsin cities have not been drawn up yet. Typically, the wards are drawn, based on local-level data, before the districts. Otherwise, you could see a ward split up between several districts, adding a lot of extra costs in balloting (one ward could need multiple different ballots. In some draft Congressional maps that were already leaked, Milwaukee County was split up into four different Congressional districts, so this is certainly possible. And yet, despite the historical timeline of holding back redistricting until after the wards are set, Republicans are moving forward. They don’t care about the extra expense, just about solidifying their gains through gerrymandering before the Democrats potentially take control of the state Senate. I should add that this may not work, as there could be court challenges.
An even more egregious example is in Ohio. SB 5, the unpopular anti-union measure, will face a citizen veto in the form of an initiative in November. But Republicans in the state are trying to split the initiative into five different ballot measures, in an attempt to salvage as much of the law as possible.
Three sources told The Dispatch yesterday that Kasich administration officials and other Republicans who support Senate Bill 5 are talking to the Ohio Ballot Board about presenting the issue to voters so that they would cast votes on its many provisions, instead of a simple up or down vote on the law [...]
We Are Ohio announced yesterday that it will deliver the signatures to Secretary of State Jon Husted and hold a celebratory parade on Wednesday.
But how the referendum is posed to voters is up to the Ballot Board, a five-member board chaired by Husted and controlled by Republicans.
“I think that’s an issue the ballot board will look at,” said one source with knowledge of the discussions. “(The) ballot board has to figure (out) a lot of things – how many issues, language, and issue numbers. (Dividing the bill) is something being discussed.”
This seems like Calvinball on a massive scale. The signatures gathered posited a repeal of SB 5, not each piece one by one. That’s what the state wants to vote on, given the fact that they collected three times as many signatures as were needed. But as mentioned above, the Republican Secretary of State controls the Ballot Board, and as such will have the opportunity to set the rules. So you can toss the norms out the window.
UPDATE: It appears Secretary of State Husted has rejected this. Good.




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You’re a bit behind times, and Ohio’s SoS is an old fashioned Republican.
Secretary of State Husted informed our idiot Governor that public referendums on legislation passed by the Congress of the State must be voted on the whole law, and may not be split on the ballot.
Besides, Husted may be running against Kasich in the primary in 2014.
So this is what it was like to live in 1922 Italy or 1933 Germany.
nice post david
we were discussing this yesterday on someone’s thread;
the republicans not only define the rules, they then morph the rules if their original definition did not work out as best as they wanted
they create the game, shape the game, write the rules and change the rules
how to win in this situation?
Latest news on the Prosser assault on Justice Bradley. The Dane County Sheriff and DA now are in charge of the investigation. In addition, a formal complaint is underway before the state judicial commission.
Anything short of putting Ann Walsh Bradley in stocks and stripping her of her seat will not satisfy the loonies, but putting the lefty Dane County officials in charge will make the wingnuts’ heads explode.
Frankly, I’m more afraid the DA will move too cautiously on this, will overcompensate and give Prosser a pass.
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime_and_courts/article_49189bde-a0f1-11e0-b2c2-001cc4c03286.html
Also just heard on WI public radio that the General Accountability Board overseeing the recalls is investigating two of the Republican candidates running against seated Dems (the retaliatory recalls, I’d call them) due to irregularities in their filing papers.
That’s good news.
Which part of running over state lines to avoid a vote is time honored tradition? Forgive me if I’m not impressed with your protestations.
Excuse me but are you whinging because legal procedural steps were taken? Point me to where you’ve made a similar complaint when your side plays with procedure, you know, like using “emergency” notice provisions in the state open meetings law to exclude other lawmakers from debate or vote.
Desperation. Don’t be deceived. 2010 was the best election the Republicans will see for generations. They know this, and the Aristocrats that own them know this. They have thrown caution to the wind and are trying to grab everything they can, hamstring the Democrats as much and for as long as possible, and rig the system to cling to power for just a few more tax years.
A cornered animal is dangerous. They will grab you by the throat and throttle you if you resist their domination. Or stomp your neck on the curb. Or use live ammo on peaceful protesters. Or steal the bread from the mouths of the hungry to fatten the Aristocrats they so long to be.
Republicans are cornered. They are doomed by demographics and the dark fantasies of voodoo economics.
Or put women firmly under their jackboots.
Wisconsin cuts Planned Parenthood, denying 12,000 women needed care
“Wisconsin is the fourth state to ban funding for Planned Parenthood, behind North Carolina, Tennessee and Indiana. Texas is expected to follow suit in the coming days.”
LINK.
as with all of their other attempts, a lawsuit will be filed to block this. the only people i see the gop employing are attornies. thanks to them activing like nazi’s,attorniesare the only people i see who are needed by law firms.
evidently wisconsin did not learn from indiana. governor daniels tried to this and planned parenthood sought and obtained an injunction. same thing will happen here.
A bit more background on the WI Prosser assault. Six of the seven state supreme court justices were in Bradley’s chambers when this happened. This means there were four observing. Three of them are conservatives, the fourth Justice Shirley Abrahamson, the other target of Prosser’s hate.
I’m expecting the conservatives will close ranks around him. Ends justify the means, after all.
Once you’ve convinced yourself that you are the only one worthy of power then it becomes simple to take any action you feel necessary to achieve you goals.
We know from their own words that they consider themselves as the only true american patriots. Since liberals hate democracy and America and the troops and now apparently we hate God as well, then any action in defense of those things that we apparently hate is not only right but good and godly, as well.
I think we could call that the “Goldwater Corollary”.
When Democracy is thwarted, the people must rise up. Perhaps it’s time for the people of Wisconsin to take it to the next level and use physical violence. It’s an unfortunate reality, but when corrupt leaders simply refuse to listen to the people, and thwart Democracy at every turn – the people have no choice left. Wisconsin residents have tried to be reasonable and do things within the law, yet it’s clear that Wisconsin Republicans refuse to listen or abide the will of the people. They and their corporate masters believe they are entitled to rule without accountability. Wisconsin cannot allow them to continue acting like the thugs they are.
NO
It is a little difficult to endorse armed rebellion against politicians who were popularly elected. We need to win at the ballot box, not at the barrel end of a gun.
There is nothing I would like to see more than some French haircuts but my husband always cautions me against it – because then they would call in the Guard and the mercenaries/private army and use those camps that Bush erected to house the uprisers that they didn’t kill.
However, in speaking to people young and old, the violence that people are starting to lean toward/yearn for is pretty frightening. A band at Bonnaroo said it quite well to the top-paying customers sitting in lawn seats in the gated area “When the revolution comes, you know you’ll be the first ones up against the wall”. If I were the aristocracy, I would be getting worried.
The problem lies when one cannot win at the election box because the elections are often stolen and/or the candidate lies to win and does the opposite of his promises.
It is also hard to say that our side cannot win at the ballot box when we are just 2+ years from an overwhelming victory for the president. We will not succeed through lawyers, or bureaucrats, but only through presenting our views in a convincing enough manner that the majority of voters see it our way and vote the best folks into office.
Calling what the Republicans are doing “Calvinball” is completely apropos. If I try to wrap my mind around the five points of Calvinism and how Calvin set the foundation for capitalism and usury, whew is all I can say. It comes down to how incrementally limited the attempts of human beings can be to make sense of their world and themselves in it. It’s some pretty astounding mental gymnastics.
It appears that the Republicans hold the views of Thomas Hobbes as not useful for anything more than an “imaginary” opponent to practice their cheating, lieing, stealing, tricking, etc. Sad to say.
Eben!
Two problems with your statement:
1) You assume Obama is on our side when his actions have so far clearly shown he is on the side of the ultra-rich, NOT the middle/lower classes. He talks a good game, but I’ve learned to ignore his words and look at what he DOES, that’s how you tell whose side he’s on.
2) You assume that the upcoming election will be a fair election, never mind the proven issues with touch-screen voting machines that are built & programmed by Rethug-run corporations and other election fraud perpetrated by the Rethugs.
1) whether Obama has turned out to be the person we all thought he was or not, at the time everyone voted for what they thought was a progressive. It is not like we voted for someone that we thought would betray the principles.
2) I am not as much into conspiracy theories as many herein. I have worked at our polling places here in Virginia and have seen only the most civic minded individuals working there. We, of course, use only paper ballots that are marked in the clearest way and which can be re-read if the need occurs.
The answer is, we need to convince more people that we are the side with the best ideas. It will be retail politics on every street corner that each of us needs to employ.
I’d like to travel around and take pictures of the women and children these goose stepping, nazi fuckers are hurting even more by this shameful deed and then drag the bastards out of their cushy offices by their ankles as their heads bump down the marble steps and force them to look at the pictures as I build a bon fire under their feet.
What kind of voting machines do they use in Wi.
have no idea -