Just to be clear, Democratic leaders did actually criticize the Coburn-Lieberman bill that would raise the eligibility age for Medicare and increase cost-sharing on beneficiaries. Nancy Pelosi called it unacceptable:
Any changes to Medicare must strengthen the Medicare system and improve the health of our seniors.
It is unfair to ask seniors to get less in benefits and wait longer to get onto Medicare – all while Republicans back tax breaks for Big Oil and corporations that ship American jobs overseas.
Just like the Republican plan to end Medicare, this proposal is unacceptable, especially for struggling middle-class Americans.
And in a speech this morning, Harry Reid said that “seniors need Medicare,” and that “I will never stop fighting to preserve this successful program. As long as I am in the Senate, I will oppose Republican plans to weaken or undermine it. Because Republicans’ plan to end Medicare is one idea whose time will never come.” This was also confirmed in a separate WaPo article today.
Maybe you think those leading Democrats aren’t being sincere about this. I actually am fine thinking that they are. Because this has now become the dividing line in American politics: one side wants to destroy the safety net, privatize everything, kill the unions, cut taxes for the rich and drown government in the bathtub. The other side doesn’t want to end Medicare. They don’t really want to expand it, they don’t even mind cutting it, hopefully to make it more efficient. They just don’t want to end it. Clearly you see how far to the right that dividing line has moved.
Democrats haven’t been totally firm on anything but the idea of not ending Medicare and not privatizing Social Security. Everything else is up for grabs. They don’t want to “slash” benefits to Social Security, but changes in the COLA by using chained CPI, which would result in a benefit cut, are on the table. They don’t want to end Medicare, but they’re open to cuts as long as they are attached to some minor revenue increases. They are concerned about senior health care, but they don’t mind making fairly severe changes to a program that substantially benefits seniors: Medicaid. Included in those changes is one that comes from the policy shop of the White House:
In the budget blueprint unveiled in April, President Barack Obama proposed adjusting the way federal matching funds paid to the states are calculated for Medicaid and its companion, the Children’s Health Insurance Program. Sources close to the administration tell POLITICO that White House officials have been trying to develop the idea into a version that could become part of a deal in the ongoing deficit reduction talks [...]
The administration wants to create what’s known as a “blended rate” for these programs, recalculating the levels so states receive federal dollars at the same rate for all populations in joint state-federal health programs. And in the process, they want to contribute to Medicaid savings totaling $100 billion.
This has Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) nervous.
“What we know is that in order to generate ‘at least $100 billion’ in savings, any blended-rate proposal would have to severely reduce federal Medicaid and CHIP payments to every state over time, with some losing a lot more than others,” Rockefeller said. “And the underlying needs and costs don’t disappear — they just move from the federal side of the ledger to the state side.”
You can call it something antiseptic like a “blended rate” or “chained CPI,” but the proposals are to give state Medicaid programs, or Social Security beneficiaries, less money over time. As long as Democrats don’t end these programs, they feel comfortable starving them of funding.
I know, I’m painting with a broad brush. I’m sure some Democrats would rather strengthen the safety net than cut it. But in the end, I’ll go by the actions taken. It’s pretty shameful that regular people have a bigger ally in hospital providers than they do in the self-described “party of the people.” I’ll close with the words of one operative, from Sam Stein’s article:
The president’s fiscal commission has argued that the ratio should be set at 3:1. Already, however, a 5:1 ratio ($2 trillion in cuts to $400 billion in revenues) has been scrapped. Would the party be willing to go 11:1 ($2.2 trillion in cuts for $200 billion in revenues)?
“That’s not shared sacrifice,” replied one top Democratic operative who has consulted lawmakers throughout the debt ceiling debate. “Democrats should be ashamed of themselves, if they go along with a plan that undermines the core priorities Democrats have fought for during the last 50 years. If they don’t fight for the middle class, how can they expect us to fight for them?”
UPDATE: I had no idea when I wrote this that Jonathan Chait asserted the same thing – as a selling point for the Coburn-Lieberman Medicare plan! – today.



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Elections have consequences. Going back to Jimmy Carter, progressives ran to the politicians promising free lunches.
While progressives claim to want an FDR, I don’t believe more than 20% of those who call themselves progressives would support FDR today – he called for too much sacrifice. The last person to come close to FDR was Jimmy Carter and he was attacked from all sides and was soundly defeated by the man and party promising a free lunch.
Voters in 2010 elected those promising a free lunch of less Federal government, more power to States, more responsibility to the States and individuals as the means to solve every problem and make everyone rich.
Obama represents all the people – We the People – and he must execute the laws that the representatives of We the People write and vote into law. He has no Constitutional power to determine what the law is (he can only try to determine what it is not be veto).
The voters wanting a free lunch voted Republicans into the majority in the House where the Constitution puts the primary responsibility for taxing, and thus the voters said they wanted government without taxes.
Stop whining. We the People dictated the States and individuals must bear the burden the Federal government has borne by taxing the wealthier States like New York and California to reduce the poverty in the South. Those in the South oppose the taxes on the wealthier more liberal States, and the Republicans have promised the South that they will be better off without the Federal aid. We the People must accept the policies we voted for: the better life of increased want and need.
Well, this voter absolutely will not vote for a party that makes these cuts. I can’t stop it. I will not affirm it.
What we need is a national write in campaign for “None of the above”. The only problem is what do we do when that guy wins.
In short, the Democrats now SUCK completely. From now on, if I can vote for a Green for a ballot position, I’ll vote for the Socialist Workers Party candidate, or failing all else vote for myself as a write-in candidate. My State permits that last choice as an option for every position on the ballot.
Republicans did not run on killing unions or transferring all of the wealth millionaires and billionaires. Your post is Absurd.
Incoherent, I’d put it.
The real Death Panel emerges. People will die as a consequence of these cuts, and the peeps know it. Cuts to Ss and Medicare/Medicade are votes for death. And we need to use that language.
Empires are destroyed from WITHIN, by spiritual/psychological cannibal cults within the Empire.
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I think tarring these politicians with the word CANNIBAL might be effective. It sounds nasty when you say it out loud as an accusation. This visceral quality is offset by the fact that no one thinks you’re actually saying that your opponent eats human flesh. Harder for the opponant to use the ‘He’s being mean to me!’ argument.
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Remember Helen Mirren at the end of “The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover”?
“Cannibal.”
But ‘mulp’ has a critical truth mixed in there–the majority of people either side with the Evil Ones, or are unwilling/unable to muster an effective response. How do you break the spell of the Vampire?
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(Forgive me, I love horror movies and metaphor stews.)
absolutely.
it’s not overwrought. it’s telling the truth.
Well, if you have faith in the Democrats consider this. During the Bush administration, prescription drug coverage was added to Medicare – UNFUNDED. Now they say Medicare is in trouble because the income does not cover the expenses. The Obama administration gives a 2% “tax holiday” on Social Security deductions. Now Obama, excuse me, now Emperor Obama wants to extend the 2% tax holiday. Then he can prove that expenditures for Social Security exceed revenue. The cat food commission wins. The prize- 2.4 trillion surplus in Social Security supposedly sitting in the Treasury.
It’s disgraceful. We have to fight it even if the debt ceiling is not raised. If we do not we will see all the safety net eroded and the republicans will know we will cave each time they have an issue. Last December we caved in to tax cuts so the middle class would not have to pay more. Great, now they want us to cave again to stave off a debt crisis, that logically does not exist. It will not end until we say NO.
Have they got Obama in such a bubble that he thinks he can win re-election right after cutting our “entitlements” and using the augument that everyone must share in this fake deficit bullshit?
And I don’t know about you guys but I wish he wouldn’t envoke his daughters in this political arena…because before I knew it when he spoke about them and compared them to more mature then the rethugs are acting…I shouted to the television “Who gives a flying fuck, they don’t have to worry about anything!” I soon asked God to forgive me, since they (MIchelle and daughters) are just the family of this asswipe!
He can’t have it both ways…Keep them out of the political arena, until he feel fit to used them as a “theater” in his speech!
ANY REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT COMING UP FOR RE-ELECTION WILL LOSE IN 2012 IF THEY THINK WE WILL BUY CUTTING CORPORATE JET TAXES IN EXCHANGE FOR CUTS TO THE ENTITLEMENTS
Don’t you guys see this was coming the first thing Obama did was freeze the COLA and the federal workers also got a pay freeze
FUCK OBAMA…..AND THIS SENTIMENT PLAYS ALL IN THE MINORITY COMMUNITY…WE ARE THE ONES DOING THE REAL SUFFERING!
NOOBAMAIN2012!
NODICKDURBININ2012!
I never thought I would get there but when the democrats abandon us, we should not vote for them. It will fuck us all up big time but they do not deserve out vote. Maybe we need to start over and build a party again that cares about people and social justice.
So I’m sitting downstairs here with Mr. Belch, eating din-din. And I told him about the presser today, and now this post comes up.
Mr. B, un-political, only votes, Mr. B is all “What in THE HELL?” He’s been quite disapproving when I talk to our Old Ones about what is happening with Medicare/Medicaid when he’s thought I was “being scary.”
Well, here it is, and he is PISSED OFF.
He knows what it’s like. We were just at Pathways today, buying new chucks to cover the chairs for the Old Ones. The indignity of how it is today to be on Medicaid already is really intolerable.
Glenn!
You are spot on Glenn these are the real “DEATH PANELS” when you cut money to those who “Must” have the care..
I wonder just how many seniors in nursing homes (who rely on Medicaid for their care) will be given the bums rush to the street??? Every one of their families should file charges against the government for wrongful deaths of their senior loved ones..
Hell maybe they should all commit a felony to force the government to care for them…………………. /s
I flat do NOT believe all this fake shit about debt and deficits and we are all going to go broke. Tell me, someone, anyone, at what point is the government bankrupt, 15 trillion, 17 Trillion, 25 trillion. and how the fuck do you know? It’s all bull shit (excuse my french). We have to scream it to them. I fucking refuse to lie down and take their cuts, like the greeks are forced to do. Let the government shut down and we will all suffer including the rich mothers on wall street. I know where I want to raise my flag.
Democrats dealt away the only thing that could have saved them, their integrity. Screw ‘em all. I haven’t seen any difference between the dims and the pukes for the last 30 years.
Notice how they never can spend enough on war and weapons though.
Or banks.
to go with painful reality… a bit of inspiration — in knowing there are smart, reality based, political economists who have been telling the truth (as glenn @6 said we all must do)
James K. Galbraith: We Need to Make an Honorable Fight… the Fate of the Entire Country is at Stake
amen
Tax cuts thats how we got here. That and a fake bankruptcy. Now we are told we must cut everything. How is it other countries do it? O yeah they tax people fairly and they don’t fight three fucking wars.
it’s not tax cuts. it’s that we need big deficits… but the banksters would rather have us indebted to them.
james k. galbraith: In Defense of Deficits
It most definitely is not a parlor game and our country is filled with incompetents who pretend or want to be president and our media follows them around and forgives all the nonsense they say over and over and over again. Shared sacrifice you say? Tell me what the Koch brothers are sharing and if their taxes were to go up by one billion next year what would they miss? A day in southern france. Shit we will die. Hell of a sharing arrangement. They have us all convinced the world is ending.
i would like our country to share some fair trials with the banksters. :)
EXcept we already have big deficits and now they want to cut spending. Fuck them.
Thank you for mentioning Durbin. Obama’s poodle is what he is. Just as Obama went back on his pre-nomination promises, Dick Durbin was all over the radio and teevees preaching how we must defund the war prior to his re-election in 2006. Well guess what after getting elected — suddenly he is voting for war spending and trotting out the tired, false narrative that we can not abandon our troops and therefore he just had to vote for more war spending. And now he wants to have benefit cuts in Social Security . . . unbelievable.
I will not be voting for him in 2012 no matter how bad the other candidate is. Of course I can say this because I am pretty sure he will win anyway — which is sad because then he has no reason to change his ways.
not big enough.
I remember reading about the trials in the French Revolution. Can you image the joy they felt at finally seeing some justice.
Yes. but/ The thugs tell us the debt of 14.3 trillion is unsustainable and interest on it will bankrupt us. All bull shit. But if you doubt it listen to Rick Sanelli on CNBC and the rest of that hair brained bunch and you will be a believer. At least half of all Americans believe it. But Santelli and the other geniuses never say we got here partly as a result of tax cuts. So the logical way to fix this is to reverse those same tax cuts. So I buy into their bull shit. Yeah we have to pay taxes. Let’s start with that. This is the political reality of it all. The Keynesians will not be listened to, not now, not yet. If you can change their minds maybe we could have a sane conversation, but you cannot.
Our nobles are indeed a selfish lot.
imo, we’ve got to think of future generations.
i’m with galbraith @20:
telling the truth is the honorable fight. telling the truth lays down a record that is trustworthy for the future.
if we wait to tell the truth until everyone already knows it, what good can it do?
someone has to start telling the truth.
why not us?
Look, they have had a plan since before Reagan time, and since then they have been carefully, relentlessly enacting it. Kill the welfare state (their term, not mine) by cutting taxes and forcing deficits until the government goes bankrupt. Welfare government spending is illegitimate, but military spending is virtuous. Cut taxes and spend more and more on defense and war. Force the debt so high that we reach bankruptcy. Provoke an existential crisis where the only way out is to kill the welfare state. This is where we are. They are going in for the kill, and they will go all the way.
They are terrorists in suicide vests. People on FDL have said that they will never push the button (Cut Social Security and Medicare) because of the political cost, but I think that they will push it. They have nothing to lose. If some of them are turned out of office, there will be fine jobs for them and their family members on Wall Street and K Street.
The democrats in congress have enabled them every time they voted for tax cuts, and now they are in a tight box. They are blustering now, but as you say in your post, I can hear the wind whistling through all the back doors they are rhetorically leaving open. I think the final battle of the Reagan revolution is being fought right now, and our side is going to lose. My advice is to save your last bullet for retirement, because when it gets bad that may be the only dignified way out of a life of poverty and sickness.
except the gov can’t go bankrupt (except by choice) when the debt is in dollar based financial assets and the fed govt is the monopoly issuer of dollars.
one of the biggest myths used to induce fear in us.
People have heard the truth, on Fox news. People are endlessly bombarded with lies. They can’t tell the difference anymore.
You may be right, but how come none of them believes it? Why doesn’t the President with all his lawyers and big banker advisers just stand up and say that?
can we?
why don’t we just stand up and say that?
Why would he or they? It’s all going very well for them.
I will save the last bullet for retirement, but the ones I use before the last one will ensure that several pigs will not live for their retirements. Die on your feet rather than live on your knees.
remember that bush tax cut in may of 2001 – BEFORE 9-11??
that smirky lying puke DID know how to lead! he got hired to fuck everyone, and he did!
fucking cantwell voted for that tax cut – or – she didn’t filibuster it – ugh. whatever. worthless sacks of shit.
rmm.
Ah, I’d forgot she said that. But yes, the thief does give some idea just how spiritually ugly and, well, un-spica-ble these folks are. And the unmasking they deserve.
(I love the moment when the horrified cook, sympathetic to her overall feelings suddenly understands what she’s asking him to do.)
When Dayen can be called a firebagger, the Democratic party is truly toast, like today.
Bush lied about WMD, it was obvious when the weapons inspectors kept saying they couldn’t find them. Tax reduction to reduce the deficit, DUH! It doesn’t take a PhD to find the lies. Everyone should look for them, there are always lies.
5000 page HC bill is not going to help anyone, too many loop holes added. Man, the list goes on forever.
Timmy G is the one who is saying the Debt Ceiling has to be upped before Aug 2 does anyone really beleive anything TG says? Obama keeps referring to the recommendation made by his Debt commission when in fact no recommendation could be agreed to,,,this is nothing but an excuse to make cuts so eventully SS and Medicare/MEdcid can be given over to Wall st (the real govt of the US well make that the worlds govts) Obama most of the Dems and all of the GOP are bought…I will not vote for Obama…
80% of the people don’t want these cuts so where is Obama? We put money into these programs and now we are being screwed…I have been laid off (I am now working) had my pension cut and getting within 10 years of hopefully retirning…I have a right to whine and I will coninue to bitch as these bastards continue to plunder the poor. working and middle classes while bending over for the under rich…my bitching might not change anything but I will go down fighting!!!
I disagree – FDR did not just “called for too much sacrifice and corporate” – he demanded the rich and corporate pay for the infrastructure that made them rich.
And Democrats in the presidency prior to Obama had that same thought.
Obama is the first Democrat that acts like Reagan and worries more about Wall Street than Main Street – calling for shared sacrifice that does not include a fair share from the rich and corporate.
my old computer inserts in odd locations that I do not always notice.
It should read”
“I disagree – FDR did not just “called for too much sacrifice” – he demanded the rich and corporate pay for the infrastructure that made them rich.”
Holy Fuck, Medicare really is doomed.
They don’t have a problem abandoning the troops once they’re vets.
Well done and sadly you are spot on. I have my bullet.
She also voted for the war, Murray did not. I sent an email to Cantwell that she now has blood on her hands.