John McCain has now signed on for Mitch McConnell’s debt limit plan. I don’t think there’s much doubt that the votes are there in the Senate – even over 60 if someone like Jim DeMint or Rand Paul filibusters – to pass the bill. The House is another matter, as Eric Cantor has gone rogue and is making his leadership play by creating wild demands that nobody will accept. Ultimately, the President still wants a bipartisan deal, but I still think it’s a good bet that the bomb gets defused, one way or another.
That’s a good thing, because the kinds of policies that both the Republicans and the White House are throwing out for ways to decrease health spending are really just cost shifts. The Affordable Care Act at least went after Medicare Advantage overpayments and took a chunk from provider reimbursements, not enough to change access for seniors. But this set of deals just forces states and individuals to pay more for health care.
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R., Va.) this week presented a list of proposed cuts to the White House as part of the broader negotiations to reach a deficit-cutting deal. The cuts include lower federal payments to hospitals with many poor patients and to state Medicaid programs, new patient copayments for clinical lab work, and reduced payments to nursing homes and rural hospitals. The cuts would come on top of about $500 billion in cuts to Medicare payments made to allow passage of the 2009 health care bill [...]
“Some of these ideas have been bouncing around Washington for some time, but nothing that I see would be confused with reforming Medicare,” said Gail Wilensky, former head of Medicare under the first President Bush and now a senior fellow at the medical-education and humanitarian group Project Hope [...]
Many of the latest proposal’s salient items appear to put financial pressure on others besides the federal government without actually restraining the escalating cost of medical care. For instance, up to $53 billion in savings over 10 years would come from cutting seniors’ ability to buy extra Medicare supplemental insurance, or Medigap. Seniors would simply have higher out-of-pocket medical costs, said Robert Laszewski, a Medicare consultant to insurers and medical providers.
Another idea would save $14 billion to $26 billion by having the government cut back on reimbursing unpaid debts. That would ultimately just shift the burden to hospitals, medical experts said.
The worst cost-shift is the proposal for a blended rate for Medicaid and CHIP, which means less money trickling down to the states from the federal government. They would be on their own to make up the difference, and they’d be barred from taxing providers for it. As a result, they’ll either lower reimbursement or pass the costs onto the poor people who use the services.
The overall cost of health care is the problem. That’s part a problem of provider payments, how much Americans pay for medical care compared to the rest of the world. And it’s mostly a structural problem, with profit-maximizing insurance companies unable to do the job of keeping down costs the way a single-payer system can. Unless you’re willing to deal with the structure, ultimately it will be next to impossible to find the kind of savings to equalize spending on health care in the US with the rest of the industrialized world. We’re not driving without a map, here. We know what works from the standpoint of both coverage and cost.
It’s difficult to see how these kinds of cost shifts go through right now, at least the ones that hit public hospitals. You have organizations from AARP to a business front group for the hospital industry fighting against these cuts. And you have the safety valve provided by McConnell. But it’s useful to look at these policies, because they’ll be taken off the shelf again sooner or later. And they get at the fundamental contradictions in health reforms that fails to restructure the industry-friendly setup we now see in this country.





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None of these “reforms” is worth the political cost or else they would’ve been included in the ACA. This debt ceiling debate is in the refrigerator, the jello’s jiggling. It’s garbage time.
“Unless you’re willing to deal with the structure, ultimately it will be next to impossible to find the kind of savings to equalize spending on health care in the US with the rest of the industrialized world.”; exactly right. And a point should be made that only the U.S. and Columbia -that bastion of freedom- has the for profit model of healthcare.
The bomb won’t be defused. Cuts will happen. Obama’s come too far with this. He’s been charged with moving public outlays (SS/Medicare) onto Wall St and he will not, cannot, let them down.
Some combination of Cantor’s tea party plus House Dems will pass a big austerity deal.
I’m starting to have an extremely difficult time telling Obama from Pawlenty. Living in the largest urban county in my state, I already know that when the state runs out of money my property taxes go up to meet the healthcare needs of the people not just in my own county but across the state and beyond who use the level 1 trauma center in Minneapolis.
Obama has the Pawlenty re-election strategy — trickle down taxation.
The US Gov (Obama especially) cannot implement Single Payer for a simple reason. Unemployment.
Assume Health Care is 18% of GDP, and it is cut by 50%. That’s 9% of GDP and 9%, or more, of the working population added too the unemployment rolls, not to mention to shareholder losses at the Health Insurance Companies.
With an estimated 100 Million people working in the US, that’s and extra 9 million unemployed. No-going-to-happen.
Further it’s useless to only address health care costs. One has to address higher education costs, because, what have Doctors’ learned in addition to medicine when they’ve run up $250,000 in student loans?
To become rent seeking? Or to perform pro-bono medicine in a poor rural area?
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No – not really
A move to Medicare for all is a very small change in employment
Currently Medicare uses “administrative services only” contracts with insurance companies to pay Part B claims. Many of those folks working at the insurance companies already work for Medicare.
Once we have Medicare for all MOST of the health insurance workforce will work for Medicare – indeed jobs may come back to the US as off shoring may decrease.
While much of the sales force, management, and marketing folks will lose their jobs and the CEO will either take a 90% pay cut or move on to some other family business, it will be small in number – and long overdue. I believe the GOP call it “creative destruction” and refer to the process as the “genius” of capitalism.
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If I had to vote for “Most egregious creep vibe given off by a congress member,” I’d say that Eric Cantor would take the prize. The dude operates at a whole different level. I can see him twisting the shank on his own mother in exchange for increased favors from his corporate masters…
Same problem – I reported it
In this case though, quite perversely, his creep vibe is working toward a progressive solution.
The $53 billion “savings from Medigap” was curious as I could not think of the subsidy that was cut – but then I realized the Medigap sellers were decreasing the funds coming in as the cost of Part D in a “sort of ” way – they picked up the younger less costly for the same premium that was charged for the old and very ill.
But $5 billion a year is a an airplane engine overrun – not much in terms of the size of the budget.
Heh, how about all those folks at HuffPo swooning over Obama’s high dudgeon act. “You go, Mr. President. Give us those Social Security cuts!” What idiots.
Obama is solely & totally responsible for the debt limit horror we face. It was Obama, not the Republicans, who refused when he had the votes to address critically needed cost reductions in our Health Care delivery system. Why would anyone believe our Money Center Banks now are demanding Congress to do act because it’s best for the Country? I say, DEFAULT, it can NOT be as bad as the farse we now have playing out in Washington, D.C.!
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problem with the assumptions. single payer, at least as i understand it, would initially cut out a lot of administrative overhead… but would also greatly increase access to healthcare. i haven’t seen ANY analysis that NHE (national health expenditures) would go down by 50% just from implementing single payer (additional costs come from providing universal coverage). but that analysis was all before ACA and current economic crisis.
as far as i can tell, the big issue re jobs would be how the costs were distributed (taxes, govt deficit spending, etc). an immediate govt sector decrease in deficit spending would not be good.
Spoken like a well primed White House Advisor. Poor us, we had no other choice, boo hoo, we did the best we could, boo hoo, there was no other way, boo hoo.
decreases in provider reimbursement CAN (and do) affect access for seniors when providers decide to limit the number of medicare patients.
Anyone remember the name of the W.H. advisor paid to “deal with” Progressive web sites that wouldn’t play by W.H. rules?
One of the reasons I neither read nor post at HP any more. The Obamabots have no sense of reality, sort of a left wing tea party mode of operation. My explanation of this is in the following alegory.
Many of us have seen MTV2’s Bully Beatdown, where an abused person has a bully called out and soundly thrashed by a professional MMA fighter.
In Washington, we seem to have a version of that going on, except something isn’t quite right. The person getting called out is “our hero” and the bully gets his way.
Enter Barack “Hurricane Wind” Obama. {cheers from the Obamabots} As he enters the ring, wearing lovely lavender trunks with a contrasting yellow stripe up the backside, he taps out three times before even seeing his opponent. After the introductions of the two headed opponent “Eric “stomp ‘em” Boehner, the first round, wrestling, begins. After much huffing and puffing, our hero is caught in a two fingered “pinky” bar (see arm bar) and taps out. Since he already tapped out three times before the fight even began, Boehner only needs one more to win this round. Deftly, while our hero is basking in the cheers of his fans, Boehner slips up behind Obama and gets him in the infamous “tongue choke”. Unable to say anything, our hero taps out a fifth and final time.
In the second round, kick boxing, things should be different. Boehner normally can’t get his legs any higher than a goose step. And Obama has a strategy. He’ll stagger like a barfly and itch like a flea. (sorry, champ) Boehner comes out swinging like a golf club, and our hero is mesmerized. A one-two combination to the face and chest put our hero down, where he takes an eight count and then forfeits the game.
After the match, where Boehner is awarded all of the money, our always loveable hero congratulates him on a good fight and then takes a “victory” lap around the cage, hearing the cheering of his most delusional fans and oblivious of the jeers of Boehner’s fan base and even more oblivious to the booing of his own.
I feel so much better now. Thanks, Obama.
Are we sure this “fight” wasn’t fixed? Oh, well, it’s “Reality Politics”.
I had such high hopes for this man. sigh.
Think how badly Harry Belefonte feels!
According to Republicans, closing tax loop holes is raising taxes because the beneficiary of the loop hole will pay more. Thus, raising the cost of Medicare and Medicaid on the beneficiaries and Social security by reduction in benefits is also raising taxes because the beneficiary will pay more. Why do the Republicans want to raise taxes on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security beneficiaries?
Hackers. Now there’s another one
Great! did you make it up yourself?
Quite creative and apt.
Amen…
I saw an alleged high school quote from Cantor: “I want what I want when I want it.” Apt.
Did he take the silver spoon out of his mouth while he said it?
He is SUCH a rich boy, it’s all over his face, especially that contemptuous , permanent lip curl.
With a leader like him, who needs followers?
Yes, Kassandra, it’s all my original work.
I saw it coming from the beginning. A stimulus bill that wasn’t what a stimulus bill should be. And every one of his “landmark” successes could have actually been good, but they are merely a few soup bones among a lot of filler. And the continuation of the onerous Bush policies, with enhancements even, are too much to bear.
However, I do believe that we wouldn’t have been in much of a different place with Mrs. Clinton, because the GOP has such a rage on about her. And I thank God that we don’t have the delusional elitist and his tea party populist vp candidate. They’re all far too much the same, and the differences for the positive are far less all the time.
There aren’t many politicians I have found as despicable as Cantor. He makes McConnell look level-headed.
I have to wonder how Boehner feels about this little slime bucket grabbin’ all his steam, anda power?
This spoiled little lowlife is rowing against the whole crew. Mr. Boehner, you know what you do with someone who isn’t rowing n the same direction the boat is going? You either whip him ’til he comes around, or you throw him overboard.
David, Trudy Lieberman wrote on Monday, 7/11, in the Columbia Journalism Review that Joe Lieberman is proposing some of these cost shifts to seniors, has Cornyn on board. It will result in Medigap no longer covering as much as it does now, there will be no option to cover 100% of costs, and the changes, if implemented, will force Medigap plan holders to pay out of pocket $3,750 before they get any Medicare or Medigap reimbursement/coverage. He has other cost shifting as well.
I just got on Medicare this year and investigated several plans. I looked at those with some copays (which representative of the plans fiercely said were not co-pays), but I could not get any firm information as to charges for most of the things I knew I would need. I have thyroid cancer which must be monitored with ultrasounds, blood tests, and, until a certain number of year of “clear” scans, an annual radioactive iodine whole body scan once a year, all needed to see if any of the cancer cells have spread and are growing outside the thyroid bed. I had the codes, but I still could not get information as to what the costs would be and what I would have to pay.
It was infuriating, to put it mildly. That’s why I went for the higher cost Plan F, just for peace of mind and to have a set budget.
Now, Holy Joe, probably acting as a stalking horse for Holy O, wants to change how the Medigap plans work. He believes that making health CARE more expensive will discourage people from using their insurance to get CARE. Well, duh, he’s right! And isn’t that special of him to put in place?
I have to admit I did not know anything about what Lieberman says Congress did in that last paragraph. I bet there are many little things in that huge bill which will bite consumers where it hurts. Big time.
Can any of these things be fought? And when will Obama’s excise tax on good plans take effect?
And what will THAT do to the Democratic Party brand image?
Congressional Dems would never have let Hillary get away with the policy choices Obama has made. No way.
They, the MCM, the public would have been on her like white on rice had she broken as many promises, started new wars of choice, etc.
Boner’s a spinless drunk and the frat boy knows it.
I did know about cuts to the Medicare Advantage subsidies — I actually thought those were the cuts Obama/Baucus had made to Medicare. B
So, actually, the Republicans were right in their ads against Dems in 2010??? Wow.
Of course, they would do the same, worse, or wipe out Medicare…. But they were not lying about what Dems had done to Medicare. In a way?
I’m still struggling to understand how the structure of Medigap – a standard state controlled insurance product that must fit one of several Federal ordered benefit structures – gets a Federal subsidy beyond anti-selection against the Federal plan.
Meanwhile you are correct that single payer cuts overhead from the ins co level of 20% to 30% – or more – to 3%, obtained via competitively bid administrative only contracts given the ins company winner – the workers never leave there desk in the transition for claim payment by the ins company to claim payment by Medicare for All via the insurance company claims payment employees. Health Cost nationwide does not change until there is more health care usage – changing to Medicare for all changes only who is the banker that holds the nations money waiting to be asked to pay a claim.
Medical inflation is the driver of the crisis – the initial savings of 20 to 30% is nice but long term we are still up the creek until we install the Maryland Medicare Waiver – a state board that tells all 3rd party payers that the all must pay the same for a given health care service, and then sets the price that they can pay as reimbursement – the genius being no one is told to under charge for anything so it is OK by the constitutional.
ACA does not control the growth in cost except via assumptions as to the effectiveness of having knowledge available to the public via the exchanges – a concept that those in insurance laugh at.
There is a small jobs issue as the overhead savings – the sales persons and excess management – move to new careers.
Again there is no govt sector decrease in deficit spending – but there is a decrease in spending on those sales and management jobs in the private economy. And as you note that requires a stimulus for more jobs to offset the problem – but then we require a stimulus for jobs already in the current situation.
The Medicare benefit was not cut – so the GOP lied.
What was cut was the Bush gift to the insurance companies of 11% of cost – a cost in excess of that needed to provide those Medicare benefits that – again – were not cut. So the gift to “Medicare Advantage” is gone, along with the odd inexpensive benefit they tossed in to be “competitive” as they got there 11% welfare check.