Update: the Gang of 6 announces they have reached a deal, and the President has praised it — ed
To the extent that there’s anything routine about the federal government’s fiscal state with just 14 days until the Treasury runs out of cash, the events on Capitol Hill appeared to fall into a pattern. The House today will pass the “Cut, Cap and Balance Act,” which would cap spending below the historical level and force a balanced budget amendment before increasing the debt limit. The Senate will reject it. Then the Senate will go forward on the McConnell-Reid plan to raise the debt limit and attach some spending cuts along with Catfood Commission II.
That was the theoretical plan, anyway. But plenty of conservatives in the House are not aboard, although it’s unclear that all of them would be needed. I’m not totally concerned about that. But the re-emergence of the Gang of Six, now Five Guys in the absence of Tom Coburn, ought to worry people.
More than half the Senate was convened early Tuesday morning by Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) for a briefing on a deficit-reduction plan being negotiated by group of five senators from both parties once known as the “Gang of Six.” [...]
Senators were effusive about the plan after the briefing meeting, calling it “great” and saying it would likely gain support from a majority of the Senate.
“We’ve gone from a Gang of Six to a mob of 50,” said Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.V.) after the meeting.
More than half of the Senate arrived to hear about the debt-reduction plan Tuesday morning, and the general atmosphere was positive, said Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) [...]
“They have done so much work that a lot of the issues have been gone through, and they’re in the midst of drafting statutory language,” Collins said. “I believe it should be considered in conjunction with the debt ceiling plan.”
And that’s the problem. The Gang of Six will probably become the template for Catfood Commission II. We’ll see if that can fit in a sweet spot between Democrats and Republicans to find 218 votes in the House. But Collins wants to put it into motion now, two weeks before default. That’s functionally impossible, and it puts competing plans on the table with a short window for passage. Actually there are more plans than this, as Tom Coburn, the Senator who walked away from the Gang of Six, unveiled awhopping $9 trillion deficit reduction package yesterday.
If you need to get sixty votes, the last thing you need are competing plans, none of which can capture the necessary threshold. Now you can see Collins or others holding out for the Gang of Six, which would lose votes on the other side of the ledger. And now that the Gang of Six exists, maybe McConnell-Reid can’t find the votes as Senators peel off. This is precisely what you don’t want to happen in the middle of a high-stakes negotiation.
I’d say that default, seen as more remote once McConnell-Reid kicked into gear, has now become a much more distinct possibility.
UPDATE: This is to say nothing of the content of the grand bargain, which is basically Bowles-Simpson with a small rightward slant, and which would cut safety programs significantly.
Roughly half of the Senate’s 100 members sat through an hour-long briefing on the plan, which was designed by a group of lawmakers known as the “Gang of Six” and would cut spending, overhaul entitlement programs such as Medicare, rework the tax code, and make significant changes to Social Security.
A key question remains whether the plan might receive any support in the House, where Republicans have strongly resisted any new proposal that could bring in new taxes. The gang’s plan would bring in $1 trillion in new tax revenue over 10 years by narrowing several tax breaks. But Mr. Conrad said it would also lower tax rates and end the alternative minimum tax. He said the combination of tax changes would be viewed by budget experts as a $1.5 trillion tax cut.
“I think the vibe in the room was very positive,” said Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R., N.H.), who attended the meeting. “My first impression is that this is a very credible plan.”
The $3.7 trillion deficit-reduction plan would come from roughly 74% spending cuts and 26% new taxes, Mr. Conrad said.
My favorite part is this: “Direct key congressional committees to find specific levels of deficit-reduction within their areas of jurisdiction. If the committees fail, then a group of senators—five Democrats and five Republicans—will be able to confer and offer their own deficit-reduction plan as a replacement.” Hey, just kick it over to 10 Senators to make decisions for the whole country!
…Tim Fernholz grabs an executive summary of the proposal. More later.





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I’m beginning to think the point of all this is the kabuki dance, itself, rather than any result. It wouldn’t be the first time what we’re fed is for show.
What’s especially concerning is that absolutely nothing in either chamber seems likely to squeak through the other. They’re on different planets.
I’d most like to be a fly on the wall in any one of the at risk blue dogs’ offices. Would I hear encouragement behind the closed doors, or not? How do they hang on for 2012 and do something positive now?
No, Mr. Franklin, we didn’t.
President Quarterback up now – setting up the k-rails to channel all through Gang of Six – ‘won’t sign sh* from House’
Here’s politico.com’s take on this.
This is all so sick, I want to throw up. To top it off, Digby caught a nice take on the $350 bottle of wine that Paul Rand had with one of his hedge-fund buddies. When a lady mentioned to him that it was slightly out of place, given the austerity they were about to impose on everyone else, the hedge funder is reported to have said, ‘fuck her.’
That pretty much sums up the Obama administration, too.
Hey, just kick it over to 10
SenatorsCorp. to make decisions for the whole country!This how it really works right?
They don’t know what they are actually doing – the unintended consequences are going to be formidable.
This can be said for 90% of things coming out of Washington
This CAVE is really dark. Will anyone lend me a flashlight?
Whether they know what they are doing, the consequences of their actions, isn’t known.
What is~
They don’t care.
The leaders of this country make me sick to my stomache. Fuck them all for ruining my future and the future of my kids and my grandkids while ensuring theirs will be paved in gold.
They know what their doing and that’s finishing off the middle class, uncle miton freidman war against the little people has come home at last.
Barney Frank just called. Says he won’t vote for Catfood II as part of any debt ceiling deal, if it has “any kind of parliamentary advantage” — i.e., if it’s like Simpson-Bowles and just makes recommendations that’s okay, but not if they get an up-or-down vote on their recommendations with no amendments etc.
Writing it up now.
fyi – Zero Hedge tweets as to ownership of said Gang:
Link to the links
Come on Teatards! Don’t vote for it. Derail this train. We’re counting on your craziness to stop the cruelty. You can do it!
Breaking: “Anonymous”…14 hackers arrested…
Nothing like getting “gang banged”.
Go Jane!
Heh.
Why didn’t I think of that? Tax CUTS that bring in MORE REVENUE. Why, I think I’ll call this stroke of genius
voodooSUPPLY-SIDE ECONOMICS.That stinks.
Still, the man can’t stop the NOTW and Sun email dump that will come soon…
When Reagan died he apparently possessed Barry.
Pie….lol
Apparently, the Gang of Six plan includes implementing “chained CPI” for Social Security. If this gets passed, seniors won’t even be able to afford catfood!
What I take from all this is that time-honored and hallowed programs can be reduced or cut, which also means they can be revised again later and made better if funding can be found. Maybe China will become the 51st state. It’s not the end of the world or society as we know it. It’s much more like sausage-making than catfood eating, but we still need better metaphors.
Watching these assholes stampede toward $4 trillion budget cuts in this diseased economy is like being one of the last survivors in a zombie apocalypse, trying to hold out against the brain-eating zombies that are roving the landscape, and eating the last of the survivors. Just like when all the zombies rushed off to Iraq.
Paul Ryan, you mean. He was the one drinking the $350 wine.
anyone up for floating a constitutional amendment that changes the country to a parliamentary democracy form of government?
or at least abolishes the fucking Senate?
As I’ve posted before, I’m three months older than Obama. When Reagan was elected, suddenly everyone on campus morphed into Izod-wearing Reaganites. It must have been something in the water. (I was drinking nothing but beer at the time).
I think Obama got the bug then and it never left him. Could he have been elected President as a Republican? Nope. I think the Republicans could bring themselves to elect a white woman (and, yes, that’s progress), but they are a couple of generations away from electing a black man. So our Reaganite Republican, Barry, makes a career out of pretending to be a Democrat.
from http://nationaljournal.com/budget/document-gang-of-six-deficit-plan-executive-summary-20110719
“The following outline was provided to 49 senators who attended a bipartisan briefing on the progress of the Senate’s Gang of Six, a group working toward a fiscal bargain based on last year’s Bowles-Simpson commission report.”
“The plan uses a two-step legislative process: (1) an initial bill that makes immediate cuts; and
(2) a process for a second bill to enact comprehensive reform and put our nation on a stable
fiscal path.”
IMMEDIATE cuts!!!
and A PROCESS for fiscal stability.
This is Fing beautiful man. They nailed it. They Fing nailed it.
They get their cuts, and then they can do, or not do, the second.
We just got skrewed royally again.
Anyone else feel that tingling in their derriere? Of course NOT. We’ve been azzFed so many times, we’ve gotten used to it.
Fing beautiful man. O will definitely sign off on this. Everything he wanted. Along with a BS process, that will gut SS and Medicare even more.
They got it. Game, set, and match.
eh nonstory either way
The government has been successfully privatized.
Agree.
lsls@21
I kept waiting for Rupert to tell Smithers, er I mean his son, to release the hounds. Pie is good.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20080746-245/fbi-arrest-14-in-anonymous-hacking-investigation/
Gee, I wonder why James Murdoch became annointed as a “Non-Executive Director” of GlaxoSmithKline in 2009..? He never even finished Skewel. D’oh.
Republicans and Democrats: A Brief Parable
http://www.thismodernworld.com/arc/2007/TMW08-15-07colorlowrescopy.jpg
I hope free market capitalism dies before I do
And to the guy that said Ray-Guns ghost is posessing barry, it isn’t his ghost, Satan just moved to a new vessel
One that had Cheneys evil blood pumping through its rotting veins
Lets unilaterally declare war on sweden, surrender 5 minutes later and let them run the northern states
That’s when Izod got the license to sell the Lacoste tennis/golf shirt as a shoddy and cheaper version: $15 US vs $80 US for the genuine article.
I’m sure AARP will be out with a statement condemning this move any second now
Long time reader, first time poster:
Just simply unbelievable. How many times can we be punched by our sellout, corporatist president? Can you imagine a republican president going after his bases “sacred cows” (an insult in and of itself)?
He lost this former volunteer and donor a long time ago, particularly with the HCR betrayal, but I kept my belief that the “lesser of two evils” would still be better, when compared with a nutjob like Palin or Bachmann. I was wrong.
Just a few…….
1)His backroom meeting with healthcare, insurance, and pharmaceutical CEO’s to kill the public option and essentially push through a massive giveaway to his corporate pals. If there’s no single-payer or public option, than don’t even bother doing it. That was the beginning of the end for me and O’Douche, as I love to refer to him.
2)War mongering and escalation in Afghanistan, pretending to end the war in Iraq while still having tons of troops and interaction there, and his unbelievably reckless venture into Libya.
3)Wall street bailout and giveaways to the crooks who caused the mess in the first place. Tax cuts for the rich (if you make over 250,000 in this country and fall in the 2% of Americans, YOU’RE RICH!). The stimulus that wasn’t anything but more taxes for the rich.
4) Done nothing on the Home Ownership crisis with money sitting there able to help people.
5) Coward on the environment.
6) Two-faced support and betrayal of gay rights.
7) Taking and adopting the Republican frames and narrative to heart and using them as his own.
8) “The Great Compromiser” who doesn’t realize that it takes two to compromise, not one side sacrificing everything.
9) Absolute refusal to prosecute any of the people responsible for the economic disaster committed on our nation and the world. Goldman Sachs is his number campaign contributor after all.
10) Making more no child left alive more punitive, invasive, and draconian. Tying teachers pay to standardized test scores and flooding the market with charter school silver bullets, something Bush either didn’t get a chance to do or chose not to do. Hiring a corporate secy of education who has never spent ONE SINGLE DAY teaching in a classroom. Refusal to acknowledge what has become of education in our country and the result of his Race to the Bottom initiative has created an absolute, linear result of the cheating scandals of where I live, here in Atlanta, among many others including DC.
11) As much as anything, his arrogance, his insults, and his unbelievable contempt for his base. As I call it, “smash, trash, bully, harass, harangue, and intimidate” liberals and progressives and crying in frustration when his base “doesn’t just follow blindly.”
This debt theater nonsense has pushed me over the edge. I’ve voted for the lesser of two evils my entire life (granted its only been 3 elections) and look where its gotten me as a teacher and middle class citizen in our country.
His all-out assault on the middle class, poor, disabled, elderly, and anyone who isn’t rich has led me to the fact that I will “under no circumstances vote for the sellout POS.”
Lesser of two evils? There is no lesser and we know what to expect from the Repuglicans, but it hurts when you get screwed this bad by your “own president.”
Bernie Sanders or Dennis Kucinich are getting my write-in vote.
Sorry, had to get that anger off my chest. Thanks for listening………
Heh.
I’m waiting for the next possessions…Jeb…and Liz Cheney to save everybody.
Careful what you wish for …
Sweden seems all nice and stuff, and certainly better than us by leaps and bounds, but they have problems too. Just noting the detail.
I agree with your plan. But maybe we could get Germany instead. Their unemployment plan is ridiculously pro-let’s get you a job. Seriously. They don’t let their citizens descend into poverty and hopelessness without a bloody long fight. Here, they encourage it.
Prepare for the worst. It’s the only dish Mr. Obama knows how to cook and serve, though he’s gifted at folding napkins and laying out flatware.
Yup. Prezdinent Audacious rides again…the great imposter…wow, that’s gonna make a heckova story for the kiddies down the road…oh wait, I meant slavelings.
I’m sorry, Jane. I was going to my representative’s office today, but as I have watched the gang of six and catfood zombies revitalize themselves I don’t just have the heart.
Of course, you don’t want your serfs to have a brain or they might get treasonous ideas like asking for more gruel….MORE GRUUU-EEEL!??!?
That goes against the teachings of The Great Profit Ayn, Peas Be Upon Her
Well said.
But be careful about making the same mistakes.
Kucnich sold-out his HC vote. For what? We may never know.
So did Sanders.
They probably thought they were getting a deal since we the people were already skrewed. Which just shows how stupid they are.
Or hey are just sell outs like the rest of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZrgxHvNNUc
Welcome, gateacher10.
Not “unbelievable” everywhere, according to Ryan Lizza’s first-person accounts.
“Peas Be Upon Her”
I like that.
“Thank you sir, may I have another” is one we should all get used to.
Reagan didn’t DARE propose what Obama is creaming over right now. At this rate the next president will propose sending the poor and elderly out on ice floes as a “compromise”
Why get used to saying that?
They won’t even give you ONE!
Because that’s soshulizm
Oliver twist was lucky that he had the wonderful hand of the government giving him food
To ayn rand Oliver Twist deserved to die a horrible death for not being one of The Chosen Galtian Overfiends
Trickle down free trade is an absolute nightmare for 99% of earth inhabitants. Changing back to Reaganomic insanity.
My rep, Sue Myrick, surely must think these proposals are still too socialist.
Hogwash.
Don’t you know we can use our innovation to send them to workhouses instead. There they can become “productive” members of society. No wages of course, considering all we are doing for them and allowing them to contribute.
No more retirement for the poor. They don’ deserve it.
/s
That’s exactly the time to go and do something to re-energize yourself!
Take Power!
Barry’s already going there…elderly and sick…down the drain…flushed..see ya…sayonara baby….don’t let entitlements hit you in the ass..
Sickening.
Ah yes, the old plutocracy chant: “F the poor”.
Instead of the old “USA. USA. USA.” chant, maybe we can start using “F the poor and middle class”?
The Chosen Galtian Overfiends should just be The Devil’s Minions, making life on earth more like hell on earth.
Soo anyone else feel like fiddling while the fiddlings good, while theres still **** to burn?
I hate these fucking committees deciding our SS MM future. Nothing good has ever come out the gangs of 6 or the gang of 10. They just can’t leave medicare and SS along…..
Good point. At least Sanders and Kucinich speak out on behalf of Americans who don’t make over 250k a year. Unlike president @-hole, who doesn’t even pretend anymore.
Re: Sanders & Kucinich, I guess they thought it was a one-time thing or that it was too early to give up on him. I don’t know.
Funfact, an Overfiend was something from some anime pron thing I heard about a while ago
A tentacle demon that used it’s tentacles to F everything in sight
Yea, the term overfiend definately fits for the kochtopus ****baggers
Oh, and how pleased Obama was to announce that now it was a gang of 7 – an additional Republican, dontcha know. Yippee. What’s up with THAT shit?
“F the poor.” This includes the elderly. Who’s with me?
There should be a website devoted to it. Oh wait, the government website is already up. Forget that part.
But let’s F the poor. They deserve it.
/s
I don’t know either.
I don’t know what the F is going on in this country anymore.
Well in that case, and thank you for the info., you are correct.
It should be Overfiend.
Fing Aholes.
I know you are right, Kelly.
Sanders got a couple billion for free health care clinics that service those that can’t afford health insurance. Granted that doesn’t help the middle class folk sliding into poverty but at least it was for something.
As far as I know all Kuchinich got was a lousy airplane ride.
Kucinich needs to explain what happened.
Sanders, well he got what he could. And I guess all those sliding into poverty can use those health care clinics.
But that’s just a sad Fing commentary that the strategy is to cushion the fall. And not very well at that. Those health care clinics won’t do anything about the increasing poverty.
I wonder what the suicide and homeless stats are?
What was the sweetener that got Tom Coburn back to the table? Oh yeah, the blood in the water. I lived in Tulsa for 4 years and I hate that bastard.
Who will we be running against Warner? Please tell me that I’m not going to have to vote for a Republican to get the @-hole out of office.
Kucinich was allowed to stay in the plane, Obama had him … wait here’s a good illustration of what happened
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrahCm7UIa4
13 seconds in
Obama opened the door to the plane midflight, played the clip for kucinich and then asked kucinich how he’d vote
LMAO.
Gundam.
I think Collins and Snowe are on the record saying they won’t vote for anything that cuts Medicare or social security as part of the debt reduction deals.
http://www.politicususa.com/en/gop-deficit-poll/comment-page-1
WHO EVER EXPECTED THAT IT WOULD BE Consistent with the recommendations of the Bowles-Simpson fiscal commission!
From the summary – a two-step legislative process:
(1) an initial bill that makes immediate cuts; and
(2) a process for a second bill to enact comprehensive reform and put our nation on a stable fiscal path.
• Fully pays for SGR (the “doc fix”) over 10 years.
Fundamentally reform our tax code
• Reduce marginal income tax rates and abolish the $1.7 trillion Alternative Minimum Tax.
• Reform spending through the tax code to eliminate investment distortions and tax gaming.
• If CBO scored this plan, it would find net tax relief (TAX CUTS IN A DEFICIT REDUCTION BILL!)of approximately $1.5 trillion.
• Impose spending caps and security/nonsecurity firewalls .
• Sequester accounts at the end of the year to recoup any excessive spending by Congress.
• Restrict the use of emergency designations that circumvent the spending caps.
• Prevent Congress from exceeding the caps by requiring a stand-alone resolution subject to a 67-vote threshold, in order to isolate that vote to increase the deficit from any other policy items (A 67 VOTE REQUIRED TO RAISE TAXES?)
Reform Social Security for future generations
• Ensure 75-year solvency of Social Security and provide for a decennial review of the program to ensure it remains solvent.
• Reform Social Security on a separate track, isolated from deficit reduction – any savings from the program must go towards solvency.
implemented through an open, aggressive two-step legislative process led by committees of jurisdiction.
establishing a fast track process for the committees in Congress to specify further savings
• Impose statutory discretionary spending caps through 2015.
• Implement numerous budget process reforms.
• Shift to the chained-CPI (a more accurate measure of inflation) government-wide starting in 2012, along with the following specifications for Social Security: (1) exempt SSI from the shift for five years, and then phase in the shift over the next five years; and (2) provide a minimum benefit equal to 125% of the poverty line for five years. (According to CBO, the shift to chained-CPI would result in the annual adjustment growing, on average, about 0.25 percentage points per year slower than the current CPI.)
A 10% CUT TO THE BENEFIT PAID THE 85 YEAR OLD living in poverty
• Repeal the CLASS Act.
• Enact concrete policy changes that lock-in additional savings, including freezing Congressional pay and selling unused federal property – FIRESALE OF PUBLIC RESOURCES TO THE RICH AND CORPORATE!.
• Require GAO and the Department of Labor to report to Congress on establishing a more effective unemployment insurance trigger EXTENDED UE TO END.
• Require committees to report legislation within six months that would deliver real deficit savings in entitlement programs over 10 years as follows:
• Finance would permanently reform or replace the Medicare Sustainable Growth Rate formula ($298 billion) and fully offset the cost with health savings, would find an additional $202 billion/$85 billion in health savings, and would maintain the essential health care services that the poor and elderly rely upon. CUT BENEFITS SO AS TO PAY MORE TO DOCTORS PER BENEFIT ACTUALLY COVERED
• Armed Services would find $80 billion RATHER THAN THE 100 BILLION THE PENTAGON SAID WAS AN EASY FIND!.
• Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions would find $70 billion KILL EDUCATION FUNDING.
• Homeland Security and Government Affairs would find $65 billion.
• Agriculture would find $11 billion while protecting the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.
• Commerce would find $11 billion.
• Energy would find $6 billion and may propose additional policies to generate savings that would be applied to the infrastructure deficit or to reduce the deficit.
• Judiciary would find an unspecified amount through medical malpractice reform.
• Require the Finance Committee to report tax reform within six months that would deliver real deficit savings by broadening the tax base, lowering tax rates, and generating economic growth as follows:
• Simplify the tax code by reducing the number of tax expenditures and reducing individual tax rates, by establishing three tax brackets with rates of 8–12 percent, 14–22 percent, and 23–29 percent – ANOTHER TAX CUT FOR THE RICH
• Permanently repeal the $1.7 trillion Alternative Minimum Tax. ANOTHER TAX CUT FOR THE RICH
• Tax reform must be projected to stimulate economic growth, leading to increased revenue. ALL THOSE JOBS THE BUSH TAX CUTS DEVELOPED ARE WHERE?
• Tax reform must be estimated to provide $1 trillion in additional revenue to meet plan 4 targets and generate an additional $133 billion by 2021, without raising the federal gas tax, to ensure improved solvency for the Highway Trust Fund.
• To the extent future Congresses find that the dynamic effects of tax reform result in additional revenue beyond these targets, this revenue must go to additional rate reductions and deficit reduction, not to new spending. NEVER A SHARING OF PROSPERITY WITH THE POOR – JUST TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH
• Reform, not eliminate, tax expenditures for health, charitable giving, homeownership, and retirement, and retain support for low-income workers and families.
• Retain the Earned Income Tax Credit and the Child Tax Credit, or provide at least the same level of support for qualified beneficiaries. GO TO A POOR HOUSE/WORKHOUSE SYSTEM RATHER THAN A TAX CREDIT
• Maintain or improve the progressivity of the tax code. LOL
• Establish a single corporate tax rate between 23 percent and 29 percent, raise as much revenue as the current corporate tax system, and move to a competitive territorial tax system MAKE THE TAX ON OVERSEAS EARNINGS ZERO AS THE IN COUNTRY TAX RATE DROPS
• Require the Budget Committee to report legislation within six months that would:
• Extend discretionary caps and enforcement mechanisms through 2021.
• Ensure Congressional action to reduce the deficit if the debt-to-GDP ratio after 2015 has not stabilized.
• Review total federal health care spending starting in 2020 with a target of holding growth to GDP plus one percent per beneficiary and require action by Congress and the President if exceeded.
• Achieve program integrity savings of $26 billion in entitlement programs to curb fraud,abuse, and other wasteful spending government-wide.
• Create a working group to provide updated budget concepts for CBO and OMB DEMAND CBO PRETEND TAX CUTS INCREASE REVENUE.
• Provide expedited floor consideration for a consolidated bill meeting these instructions:
• If any committee fails to report entitlement program savings, impose across the board cuts to programs in that committee’s jurisdiction as necessary to achieve the required savings. To protect programs that benefit low income families, exempt from across the board cuts those most in need.
• Allow a group of at least five senators from each party to introduce a resolution in lieu of the non-reporting committee.
• If a resolution receives 60 votes on the floor, those recommendations will be added to the comprehensive bill.
• If the Senate does not agree to those recommendations, the comprehensive bill
cannot come to the floor under the special procedures established in the first (down payment) bill.
• Bar substitute floor amendments that upset the revenue/spending balance or any
amendments that make the deficit worse, but place no other limits on debate or the substance of amendments.
• Allow the Majority Leader and Minority Leader to limit debate and the number of amendments, or impose other substantive restrictions by agreement, so that the Leaders can manage the bill with a process that satisfies 60 Senators and the process cannot be held up by a small group on either side. If the Leaders cannot agree, the bill is considered under the regular order.
• Hold any such comprehensive bill that receives 60 votes at the desk pending
consideration of the Social Security bill.
Enacting MORE!!!! Social Security reform if the comprehensive deficit reduction plan has passed
• Consider Social Security reform, if and only if the comprehensive deficit reduction bill has already received 60 votes.
• Reform must ensure 75-year solvency of the program and provide for a decennial review to ensure it remains solvent. Any savings from the program must go towards solvency, not deficit reduction.
• If Finance fails to report Social Security reform meeting the instructions, allow a group of at least five senators from each party to introduce a resolution with recommendations that meet the committee’s instructions.
• Bar substitute amendments that worsen the solvency of Social Security.
• Combine any qualifying Social Security reform bill that receives 60 votes on final passage to the comprehensive bill at the desk before being sent to the House as a single bill.
• Vitiate (THE WORD MEANS VOID) the vote on the deficit-reduction bill if the Social Security reform bill does not receive 60 votes. SEEMS 60 VOTES IS A LOCK _ A SHOW OF THE POWER OF THE RICH AND CORPORATE TO THE LIBERAL BASE I GUESS.
Great, Obamas to the right of those two
Next Atilla the Hun will be telling him to chill out and take a deep breath
Call it ‘strengthening’ and they will vote for it. They know the moron voters will never know the difference until it’s much too late.
They really want a repeat of the 60′s I guess – well the violence did elect Nixon, so I guess it is a plan.
Change you can believe in, cat food for all.
FWIW
I keep hesitating to post this link because I know there are still a lot of true believers, even here. And I don’t know how much of this is right on the money, or a misunderstanding. Even if it’s only, say, 50% true, it raises questions that should, and need, to be answered. When you read this, it seems like all the pieces fit
Food for thought anyway
Alice Rivlin in March:
linkage (scroll down)
Has anyone done a whip count since these bast@ards say they have 50?
I know one of my senators is a lost cause since I just got off the phone with one of his aides and he’s calling these cuts “structural changes.”(warner) I actually feel sorry for his aides they said that basically they’ve been getting calls all day long.
I’m gonna be sick.
Webb’s office not answering his phone.
If people didn’t visit their Congresscritters’ offices today then it still might be worthwhile to get out the phone and call and see where they stand on “changing” Social Security.
Yep, they’re shootin blanks.
I really hate liars. I mean you can give Paul Ryan credit for laying his looney plan out there for all to see but these centrist LIARS who use spin words to LIE to the elderly and confuse the people are beneath contempt.
Well, I think I’ll write in my cat.
At least you will probably have stuff in teh house to feed him :)
Of course I could be wrong (especially since I was so discouraged for a spell that I literally disengaged from all political news), but it appears that the tide is finally turning regarding the true progressive base and how they feel about Prez sell(O)ut, at least in my opinion.
I know there are still plenty of believers and always will be, but for the longest time I felt that I was the crazy one and how dare I question the democratic president I gave money to, worked for, and cried over when elected. After reading comments of others early on, I figured I would just have to be an outlier or STFU.
I don’t even read mainstream articles anymore without first checking to see where the article is from and who the author is because these politics are just a game and a sport to them, not literally the lives of us who bust our ass to make ends meet and provide a better future for our children.
Anyway, with this latest capitulation/sellout/hippie-punch, it seems the tide is finally starting to turn. A better way to frame the debate and argument at this point is ask without any excuses on who’s in power or the difficulties he’s inherited (a favorite sycophant talking point)”what exactly has sell(O)ut done well?” It’s funny to sit back and watch them squirm away trying to defend this fraud.
What’s your kittys name. I need someone to write in too.
OMG. I just looked at your profile photo. I have been having episodes of vertigo along with a sinus infection and when I glanced at your photo I felt as though my eyes had each done an opposite 180 and hit me in the back of the head.
LOL and OUCH! :)
A very highly respected longtime regular at FDL (who recently benched herself) has expressed similar suspicions about Obama’s meteoric rise (I referred her to Cannonfire, coincidentally one of the sources in that linked site).
May we presume that the birth certificate row was the slick distraction that would put everything else to rest?
I can’t think of any president who hasn’t had a sordid and dissolute side to him.
Interesting http://www.blacklistednews.com/?news_id=7297 and the New Yorker
I know near zero CIA info (my employer was very close to the CIA and Reagan in the 80′s and I was in a position to be aware – but I “know” nothing with any “certainty”). However, the 50,000 working for the CIA include some of the best minds, most ethical people I have ever been aware of (one is not allowed to “know” them). But some are without personal limits – and this fits what I suspect was happening at the top from 80 to 2003 based on hearsay (post 2003 I don’t even have enough hearsay to suspect anything). Makes one accept the CIA JFK story Oliver Stone told – indeed the CIA – oil rich fellows mistress story of knowing before hand the CIA operatives’ plan that Stone did not tell but which made it into the Warren Report and then was ignored.
I do know that in 2007, while the military was OK with Hillary, in at least a few Corporate Board Rooms the game was to stop Hillary because she was too liberal and could not be controlled – but Obama was known to be OK in all areas. Indeed that “Obama story” was told directly to me by folks near those rooms.
But folks want to believe Hillary was a clone of Obama so their 2008 vote was a logical liberal vote. So be it. The idea of Obama as a product of the CIA is possible, but as the Scots say, not proven.
The Good Shepherd movie should be required viewing.
Botticelli’s The Birth Of Venus: Firedoglake was born from the outing of a covert CIA operative.
This points out something we all need to understand:
Now isn’t the time to toss Obama, it’s the time to work our butts off to elect liberals (ya, not “progressives”, “liberals”) to Congress and to every state legislature. In short, the problem isn’t Obama so much as the supporting cast.