In Chris Cillizza’s smug dismissal of liberal frustration, with the curt statement “liberals and progressives have nowhere else to go,” he overlooks the fact that liberals have plenty of places to go. More than ever, in fact. From a movement-building perspective, there are more opportunities than normal in an off year to really make a difference on progressive policy.
First off you have the Wisconsin recalls, where progressives are waging an explicitly class-based campaign to win back the state Senate. RNC Chair Reince Priebus, who happens to be a former chair of the Republican Party of Wisconsin, may not want to talk about the recalls, but they are crucially important to show that conservative extremism does not go unpunished. What’s more, it’s sparked a local movement out of an assault on worker rights, which was just unthinkable a year ago.
And there are even bigger fights in November. In the bellwether state of Ohio, voters will have to decide between two radically different initiatives. One would veto SB 5, the anti-union bill that strips most collective bargaining and the right to strike from public employees. The other is a largely symbolic effort to nullify the individual mandate at the state level. Both will bring out partisans on both sides. This is a true litmus test of progressive ideas like the right to organize.
Furthermore, an even bigger fight is going down in Colorado, where Initiative 25 qualified for the state ballot in November.
From a news conference under way now–supporters of Initiative 25, the ballot measure from Sen. Rollie Heath to restore Colorado sales and income tax rates to 1999 levels, plan to submit some 142,000 names to the Secretary of State’s office later today. Well in excess of the campaign’s goal of 125,000 signatures, and nearly double the legal requirement of approximately 86,000, it’s now very likely that a measure to raise the state sales tax from 2.9% to 3.0%, and income tax from 4.63% to 5%, will appear on this November’s statewide ballot.
This was a volunteer-based signature-gathering effort. If successful on Election Day, the measure would upend the Taxpayer’s Bill of Rights, which has ratcheted down revenues and public services in Colorado and shifted the state into one of the worst for education funding in the entire country. The progressive argument of taxes being the price we pay to live in a free society is on the line.
So there are plenty of places outside of national politics for progressives to invest their time and money. What’s more, these alternatives carry tangible benefits and help build a larger movement, which is what is needed to break through at a national level rather than run into the wall that is the current Democratic leadership.




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He says we have no other place to go but I think a lot of progressives just won’t go at all. Lots of stay at home voters IMO.
Or you could spend the next year or two building a third party. If I had 300 million (Newt, while often wrong, was right about this number..)to spend I could give you a third party. 300 angry Matt Damons giving 1 million each could build a real independent presidential campaign.
A third party movement actually needs only about 30 million, this way you could contest 5 senate seats and 25 house seats, to be filled with progressives who fight like republicans for opposite goals I would hope! You give me 300000 angry firebaggers giving 10 bucks a month and we can be in play by 2012…
Everybody is welcome to start here:
http://www.indiegogo.com/The-Lets-Create-Viable-Third-Party-Runs-Campaign-1
Need 4500 firebaggers giving 10 bucks once to indirectly help Cheri Honkala.
Just heard Ron Elving, NPR’s “political junkie” saying essentially, he doubted that the upset liberals/progs would really stay home at 2012 election time.
In a recession people are using ballot initiatives to demand more taxes Colorado was a Purple state last I checked not a Blue state the GOP is coming Undone.
Chris can say what ever he wants but lets not forget Tea Baggers got their SS and Medicare cut too and the GOP is not running on giving them their money back.
Any bets tons of Tea Baggers stay home on election day?
This election will be a race to see which side has the least amount of stay at home voters.
If I don’t have any real Lefties to vote for I’m staying home.
I would bet that the Tea-O-Pee go to the polls. Many don’t believe they receive any government assistance anyway, but more importantly they are the God,Gun,Gay voters.
Just jerk that chain. They will vote.
I’m calling it “Voting With My A**”
Absent any progressive third party, that’s what I’m doing. Oh yeah, and putting my wallet away too!
National level, maybe; local level, as in Wisconsin and Ohio, is do-able. Ohio may actually be the easier fight of the two.
Oh, the Teep/Bircher types vote all the time. It helps that where they live, voting is usually made super easy.
Cillizza apparently thinks the 29 million 2008 Obama voters who stayed home in 2010 are all pissed at him for not being conservative *enough*. Bzzzzt! Wrong answer!
precis. just show the old conceal carry permit…
How many people have to stay home before Washington worries the election is not legit? Or do we actually have to protest too?
Economic boycotts and a move to stop all unnecessary consumer spending can tank the economy and hurt the rich where it hurts most their wallets.
Buy food you make not the premade stuff when you can lower profit margin. By clothes, furniture at good will, by electronics at pawn shops.
We are maybe 1% of the population but we tend to be affluent so maybe we are 5% of all consumer spending.
If we cut back 50% we drop consumer spending 2.5% trust me WallStreet will panic if we do this.
We can also make a point of not spending at all companies with Right ties like Wallmart, Target, Coors beer or places that mistreat their workers like McDonalds.
Cilizza is an ass, but “no where to go” doesn’t really refer to state races, he means that disappointed Democrats will still vote for Obama in 2012.
But this one won’t. Go Green or go home.
I have never paid attention to the write-in option. Can you write in a name that then in 25wordsorless tell why?
Or could I write #FU DC?
OT it would seem that Obama is beginning to lose his “cache” over at the HP.
I doubt it they need jobs as much as we do and now their benefits just got cut but they still have no jobs. Hate is a luxury that Americans can’t afford now.
Survival jobs, keeping your home are the priorities attacking Gays, Gun Rights, and God won’t do a thing about their worries about being homeless.
It’s actually easier (and cheaper) to take over an existing political party than it is to start a viable one nowadays. That’s why the conservatives by and large shun third-party movements — note that Pat Buchanan only got one-seventh the votes Nader did in 2000.
The Cons knew that taking over the country would take decades, and the first thing they did was to take over the media and the schools and set up “think tanks” from which flacks sprouted. This took a few billions and a few decades to pull off, but once it was done, it’s been made hard to undo. Now that it’s done, it makes undoing it — at least quickly — very, very hard and much more expensive, especially if you want it done in the space of a few years.
That seems the view of all inside the beltway – a year away election is too long to keep a fire going – we will be back to do the least bad choice.
Meanwhile I agree with DDay that state races are of more interest. The Koch brothers and other like minded folks started with school board races 25 years ago, using the religious right as their troops.
That all makes perfectly good sense to you and me. And hopefully, to them. I hate to see anyone hurting.
It was an eyeopener to me in 2009 when I did a year course in Med Assist at my local community college. All but 2 of us in a class of about 30 were on some sort of government assistance. Food stamps, child care, TennCare, Pell grants, you name it. All but 2 of us were Republicans.
They hated liberals. Hated taxes. Hated government. Didn’t or wouldn’t understand that they were the beneficiaries.
I have never understood the disconnect. Rush Limbaugh, maybe.
We certainly DO have another place to go: it’s called “We’re not voting for Democrats under any circumstances.”
In other words, if we have no option but a Democrat “or” a Republican, then don’t vote for anyone.
Let the Democrats enjoy a reduced turnout from their core voters.
Exactly. None of us HAS to legitimize this party by continuing to support it.
Hmmm … from “Federal Government Asks Judge To Dismiss New York State Fracking Lawsuit” (DeSmogBlog.Com, by Farron Cousins, August 3, 2011):
Still think you can change things by working within the GOP/Dem system, do ya?
HAHAHAHA…..
To everyone who is saying they aren’t going to vote. At least vote in all the local and state elections. Even if you don’t want to vote for Obama, which I can understand, you should at least try to take back you town and your state.
We are the fulcrum upon which the lever can rest.
Don’t forget Michigan…….we have a recall the governor campaign going and several fights/suits against the emergency financial manger law and these facists are hoping to make Michigan a right to work state!
I’ve been noticing for a couple of months now, the Obamabots are lessening….
“The other is a largely symbolic effort to nullify the individual mandate at the state level.”
I am sure I am not the only liberal that finds this paragraph a bit confusing. I would absolutely vote to restore workers rights to organize but with equal or even greater fervor I would vote to nullify the individual mandate in ACA.
Here is a novel approach,
end the income cap on social security, fix medicare part D, end medicare advantage, have the wealthy and the corporate pay the same 35% that the rest of us pay, no loop holes. End of problem. Budget balanced in 5 years.
And if you really want to save money;
UNIVERSAL SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE.
I think this is a perfect demonstration of why progressives lose and the far right win.
The right have an effective two step program to getting their way:
Step 1: Never, ever, under any circumstances support or vote for a Republican who betrays their core values (ex. George Bush I, Arlen Specter, Lincoln Chaffee, etc.)
Step 2: Support politicians at the local, state and national level who do support their fundy beliefs.
And what do progressives have? Step 2, that’s it. Because when the clock ticks down toward Election Day, most progressives will put away ideology and throw their vote behind whichever Democrat, whether they are a Reid, Pelosi or Obama, who has the best chance of winning against their Republican rival, i.e. the lesser of two evils strategy.
And for the last 35 years the Progressive One-Step has failed while the Conservative Two-Step has kicked ass and moved the country further and further to the right.
Add to the list: surplus and salvage stores; g-sales; estate sales; auctions; and scrounging. And, for the upscale there are vintage and antique shops which provide some business to enterprising frequenters, (addicts,) of all of the above.
I’m learning to sprout many different seeds and beans for their high quality/low cost/more bioavailable nutrients. Next plan is to grow micro greens. One step at a time.
Yep, my household got hit by the job loss craze over two years ago, so we changed our ways quite a bit. Suited me and mine anyway. We’re very likely to continue our ramped up reduce/reuse/recycle routine given the confidence fairy hasn’t made a very convincing case for thoughtless and wasteful consumption anyway.
I used to follow the “at least vote for state and local positions” but, now I’m not so sure. Even if a politician starts off progressive they will be swallowed up by the system and big money before they are actualy in a position to make a real difference. Now, that’s definitely a generalization but, it seems it has gotten much much worse recently. It’s hard to keep faith in anything elected officials can do these days… at least issues that actually benefit the middle and lower class.
The really big problem is the laws governing corporations.
I don’t see much change with our political system till CU is thrown out and big money is taken out of politics. Doesn’t really matter who you vote for, it will most likely have the same result in the end. IMO
Liberal have a place to go. All join the Tea Party. We all have the same problems, and we need a bi-partisan solution.
Let’s push the Tea Party so far right it reappears on the left.
We know the Tea Partiers and us agree many things, for example: on Social Security, Medicare, Non representation in Washington, ending Wars in Asia and so on.
Progressives do have a lot in common with the Tea Party. But there are also huge divides. The amount of hate and bigotry in the Tea Party would not fly with the DFHs. Also, we may agree on the problems, but we have huge differences on what caused the problems and how to fix them. The Tea Party is too easily lead astray but the man behind the curtain.
Well, I know the dems are counting on lesser of 2 evils to work in their favor again but not with this liberal.
I’m going Green and aint looking back. That is my genuine real alternative.
There is also Peace & Freedom, and Socialist Parties.
There are options.
I have lost my fear!
I am moving to a new house and district in a few weeks. I have never been involved in politics other than the blogs. NOW I’M PISSED. I will no longer sit on the sidelines quitely and be abused and ignored. I am half cajun and 1/16th Cherokee and to quote one of my favorite actors in one of my favorite movies….
“You’ve fucked with the wrong Cherokee Coonass!”
I’m going to the precinct meetings. I’m gonna work from WITHIN the system. I don’t look good in green.
Hell, I might even be a convention delegate. I’m handsome, well spoken, a born leader, and modest.
So why don’t unions start buying say .. Disney stock? or Viacom?
Yes, it’s important to look at state-level fights. But the real engines of progressive political reform are cranking up in cities. E.g., San Francisco now has the nation’s second highest minimum wage, a mandated paid sick leave policy, universal health care for nearly all uninsured city residents, a recently passed local-hire mandate for contract work on city projects, new wage-theft legislation protecting against the usual biz ripoffs, an expansive and aggressive sanctuary city policy protecting undocumented immigrants, the nation’s leading recycling program and highest green city ranking, an ambitious community choice aggregation program shooting for 51% renewable energy by 2017 and 100% by 2030, a children’s fund guaranteeing substantial funding of programs for children youth an families, the landmark equal benefits for domestic partners law that has inspired adoption in both public and private sectors, and, in the area of local democracy reforms, ranked choice voting in city elections, public financing of local political campaigns (included for mayor this Nov.), and one of the most extensive sunshine ordinances of any city in the nation. To cite just a few progressive achievements in SF, most of them happening since Jan 2001. Most actions at the state level seem limited to placing the right-wing political cancer in remission & minimizing damage so that real reform can take root and expand in and then from the cities (at least some of them).
Grass roots politics always works and Obama used it. Now it must be used to get rid of his weak administration.
It’d be tough to gather data on this but I’m willing to bet a lot of votes will be cast for dogs and cats and cockatiels and whomever. Then maybe, down ticket, people will vote for humans (so they hope) with names pre-printed on the ballot.
Hey, good luck with that.
Might as well ask me to join the American Nazi Party. They’ve got the same problems alright, but their solutions are problem. If the Tea Party happens to vote the right way, it’s undoubtedly for the wrong reason. That’s no ally, that’s an antagonist. This isn’t a merry-g-round or a wormhole; you don’t throw yourself off a building and find yourself in China. Going further right will get you stuck under right-wing despotism; it doesn’t get you to progressivism.
BTW, Jonathan Alter is a complete idiot. If the stimulus was pure FDR, it was microscopic. As for his suggestion that long-term unemployed take a voucher for a job to a business that isn’t selling anything shows an appalling lack of comprehension of the problem. To see him and Matthews bouncing ideas off each other is like watching two chimps fling feces.
Yeh but we should not be staying home…we should have someone on that ballot to vote for.
Sometimes I think we should organize a boycott of all Democratic candidates. Because something has to shake them out of their smug ‘you have no where to go’ attitude.
Ever had it said to your face? I have, and it was both chilling and infurating. Last fall, I attended a question/answer thing with two Democratic politican. Both have served in the Minnesota legslature for years; one a state senator and the other a state representative. So I took the opportunity to try to explain liberal frustration and how the party needs to change course before they lose our votes. Things got a bit heated. They had their “I have a letter supporting single payer healthcare on my office door; see how liberal I am.” And my “a letter means nothing; what real actions have you taken?” And then it happen….
One of the politicans turned to the other and said (out loud and no effort to hide the comment), “Don’t worry. She has to vote for us. The other side is a lot more concervative than we are.”
I wish that I could say that I had a witty retort, but I didn’t. All I could do was stand and sputter at their sheer arrogrance.
yes this is true. I worked in a State House. No matter how good the intentions were of the newly elected , they always fell at the wayside and that is because they lost site of why they were there in the first place. They become consumed with the power of the place, perks people falling all over them that they concentrate on re-election only. This is why we need TERM LIMITS.
Obama used grassroots but I don’t know how much it really helped him win. Maybe helped him win big, but he probably would have won anyway. Most of his money did not come from the grassroots. Which is why he is being such a sellout now because he has all this campaign donations to pay back.
ok so who can we take over….I like the Socialist Party but I gotta tell you that i walked around work one day and asked people individually to tell me what a Socialist is. They defined a Russian Communist from the 1950′s.
I know your frustration. Had the same experience with them. I don’t lift a finger for the MN House or Senate
Agreed: I’m quitting the Dumbocratic Party and changing my registration to the Greens. I do not do this lightly. I’ve been a member of the Democratic Party for over 25 years. But when the Dumbocrats won’t defend their core values/programs, I won’t defend them. What good are they, really?
After much consideration, I am changing my affiliation to the Greens. At least my principles will remain intact. And, my hope is that the Green Party of the United States will grow and become that viable third party we all need and want. A Party to break the logjam in Washington.
Tell them you DO have a choice: the Green Party of the United States. More and more liberals and progressives are moving to the Greens. If enough of us do this, it will be the viable third party this country so desperately needs! You DO have a choice.
Oh, I won’t be staying home, I guarantee it. I will however, be voting Green or Socialist (depends on who’s running), or maybe writing someone in. Maybe Pete Defazio?
Agreed.