Here’s another example of Barack Obama’s attempt at dealmaking during the debt limit debate coming back to haunt the Democratic Party. This is posted at the RNC’s website:
For The Record…It Was Obama Who Offered To Cut Hundreds Of Billions In Medicare During The Debt Debate
OBAMA AND DEMOCRATS PUT MEDICARE CUTS IN DEBT CEILING DEAL
USA Today: “Cuts in Medicare and other entitlement programs are on the table.” (Susan Page and Fredreka Schouten, “Political Damage Even If A Debt Deal Is Done,” USA Today, 7/31/11)
Obama Agreed To Medicare Cuts In Debt Ceiling Deal. “The deal announced on Sunday by Congressional leaders and the White House would make across-the-board cuts in military spending, education, transportation and Medicare payments to health care providers if Congress does not enact further deficit-cutting legislation by the end of the year.” (Robert Pear, “Congress Must Trim Deficit To Avoid Broader Cuts,” The New York Times, 7/31/11)
Obama Said “Adjustments” Must Be Made To Medicare. OBAMA: “Yes, that means making some adjustments to protect health care programs like Medicare so they’re there for future generations.” (President Barack Obama, Remarks On Budget Control Act, Washington, D.C., 8/2/11)
This will all get milked for all its worth during the Catfood Commission II, as Republicans use these “even Barack Obama supported” statements to win the spin war. Democrats don’t really have any similar statements to hurl back with respect to taxes, at least not from major political figures in the Republican Party, because they don’t really go off the reservation like that. The closest they have is John Boehner saying there was an agreement on an $800 billion increase in revenues in the deal, but of course he’s already backtracked on that, and he’s perfectly willing to say that the revenues would only come from economic growth. So it’s a slippery target. There’s no such problem with Obama. He has said – is continuing to say – that “adjustments” need to be made to Medicare.
Anyway, these things don’t work against Republicans the same way. Heck, they proposed earlier in the year to end Medicare and turn it into a coupon, and they’re still banging out press releases on how Obama will cut your Medicare. This is what I meant by saying that the grand bargain deal, even though it hasn’t yet been consummated, will have damaging knock-on effects for years. As Digby writes, “The President wanted a Grand Bargain, a Big Deal, a Great Compromise that would bring the two parties together to offer the necessary human sacrifices to the Market Gods. But he may have ended up being the sacrifice himself.”





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You mean they are using it against him and aren’t buying into the “it was an eleventy-dimensional negotiating tactic and Obama didn’t really mean it when he said he wanted cuts” explanation? Do tell, LOL!
That’s what the Dems get for spending so much effort on marginalizing unhappy Libs. Meanwhile, they keep giving the Repubs free ammunition to use against them with unaffiliated voters, the very ones Obama needs to get in order to be re-elected and the very ones that latest polls show are leaving him.
According to an email I recieved from Patty Murray she voted for the thing because, get this, the people she repersents by a majority wanted her to. I wrote back and told her that that is pretty much horseshit and the polls I’ve seen indicate the reverse. Patty Murray, another sell out.
I must have heard Obama brag about his intention to cut Medicare at least a half dozen times.
He deserves this. When he put Medicare eligibility on the table, he lost my vote. Paul Ryan doesn’t scare me. Having no opposition party scares me.
The RNC is running barry obama for president again
Who could have predicted…
I just checked and both Klobuchar and Franken voted ‘yes’. Klobuchar doesn’t surprise me, but I cannot believe that Al Franken voted for that piece of crap. And I REALLY wanted to support him in his re-election. :(
Way to push racist buttons with that picture of Obama on the RNC website.
JHFC (to borrow an expression) :)
It was so predictable.
I think the majority of regulars at FDL predicted that this would happen. The Rethugs would pin the attacks on SS and Medicare on Obama and the D’s. Anyone could see it coming a mile away.
Obama created the con. He created the Deficit Commission. He left the debt ceiling issue wide open for the Rethugs to clobber him with. O had at least two opportunities to put it to bed early:
1. Best way: When he had majorities in both houses.
2. Half stupid: Trade it for the Bush tax Cuts (The Rethugs are calling it Obama Tax Cuts already).
Obama set up the con, then got the corrupt D’s to follow him over the cliff again.
Stock Market Tanks after they get the debt ceiling raised.
Why do anything for banks and the Stock Market?
Because you are corrupt.
So if the Republicans start demanding that he not cut Medicare, and he usually caves into whatever Republicans want …. hey this could all work out!
Reminds me of this.
Hoocoodanode…?
The chickens are already coming home to roost…! ;-)
“The closest they have is John Boehner saying there was an agreement on an $800 billion increase in revenues in the deal, but of course he’s already backtracked on that, and he’s perfectly willing to say that the revenues would only come from economic growth. So it’s a slippery target.”
It’s a non-existent target. They’ve got nothing with this angle.
If the flyer I got in the mail the other day from a Republican representative saying something about how she is going to destroy SS and MM in order to save it is any indication, “Obama will end your Medicare” will be the counterpoint against which the actual destruction will be enabled: “Obama (don’t forget he’s black) wants to steal what’s rightfully yours. We’re just going to make some necessary adjustments. And we might need to make a few more tomorrow . . .”
He put Social Security on the table –
http://www.crewof42.com/cbc/conyers-on-jobs-weve-had-it-lays-out-obama-calls-for-protest-at-white-house/
They reported he was telling supporters that he needed a second term to finish what he started. He almost finished us off in his first two years. I try not to imagine what he would do if he had a second term. He needs to go.
Happy Rockefeller had an excellent, must read, post on FDL yesterday “It’s time to show Obama the door”.
I guess we’ll have to move to Iowa. None of their Democrats voted for it. Tom Harkin may be the only liberal Democrat in the Senate.
And I took a look at what Amy is selling today. She has filled her web page with another laundry list of her bipartisan positions.
Why doesn’t she just run on the Repubican ballot? Is there any Democrat in America who loves Republicans more than Amy Klobuchar? Others love Republican policies but Amy just pure and simple loves Republicans.
to quote his fellow oreo
you broke it,you own it Barry
Hope Dr. West agrees
Dems continue to give Repubs all the talking points they need. Today, from the Chicago Tribune (http://tinyurl.com/3fkw6ub), (former liberal) Senator Dick Durbin (now supreme water carrier for Obama) said:
Here’s a clue, Dick: “entitlements”–meaning our money–have nothing to do with the deficit. Furthermore, Dick, take a look at an Economics 101 textbook–when there’s no spending by the business sector or the private sector, if government doesn’t open its wallet, the entire economy tanks. And, by the way, Dick, you might want to check out the latest NY Times poll, hot off the press, that shows Americans overwhelmingly don’t give a rat’s ass about the deficit. Americans want jobs, period the end.
FEH.
I’d be much happier if Obama had been the only sacrifice in this mess. It’s certainly perfectly just that he should end up being part of the sacrifice. But his and his family’s quality of life is not going to suffer to the same degree that most of the rest of us are facing!
I doubt that Dr. West would like being called an oreo.
” But he may have ended up being the sacrifice himself.”
Well, it has been written into the narrative over and over. Sidney Poitier, is that you?
He’s always been a sacrifice. That’s his fucking job. Only in Dick Cheney’s wet dreams did anyone ever imagine he’d be able to get so far, so fast.
Feh.
I wondered what her frikkin’ reason was. My whole WA state delegation voted “yea” for this crap.
That a majority of this state supported the deal is, as you say, horseshit.
Ding!
I really wish one of these Vichycrats could explain to me how evicting old ladies from retirement communities and nursing homes saves the economy?
I keep trying to figure out how cutting my 90 year old mother’s access to healthcare convinces some guy to go out and manufacture an appliance.
Oboma=
keeping campaign promises=failure
go after bankers=failure
corporate health care plan=failure
loses house of reps=failure
debt ceiling debacle=failure
I’ll be surprised if 0 takes california in 2012
Franken lost me when he started cheerleader for HCR.
6 months in DC and he was already carrying Obama’s water.
Obama is like a goalie that keeps on scoring against his own team. At some point, his team will have to decide to replace him. My vote is that he has got to go.
no,i wasnt clear,sorry………..Colin Powell called Iraq the Pottery Barn deal,we broke it we own it
Dr. West has been a big CRITIC of Barry
greased lightning…………Wylie Coyote
Our sadlyyes was ‘quoting’ Mr. General and also Secretary Colin Powell.
never prosecuted WAR CRIMES
uses robot planes to kill civilians
the ENVIOREMENT
thanks Aitch…………g
Thanks for the chuckle.
According to Acmepedia, it’s Wile E. Coyote.
It should be evident by now: not only has 0bama been employed (i.e. funded) by his billionaire capitalist CEO sponsors to wreck the economy permanently and direct the loot to his fat-cat pals, his other mission has been to destroy the Democratic party by attacking, de-funding, and de-legitimizing everything Democrats have stood for since 1929. He works for the ENEMY, and his mission is to wreck our party. And still, everywhere I turn I see 0bots defending his deliberate obliteration of the Democratic party and insisting we must work for his RE-ELECTION! Are you all insane?? This man is an ultra-right wing corporatist apparatchik whose mission is to destroy our way of life and ensure that the Democratic party is thoroughly discredited and abandoned. He is on track to succeed. Progressives/Liberals must disown 0bama and identify him as a corporatist plant. He is NOT one of us, he is a dedicated servant of the thieving fat-cat corporatist scum-bags. 0bama=Dick Cheney. 0bama=Paul Ryan. 0bama=George W. Bush. 0bama=Mitch McConnell. 0bama=Koch Brothers. 0bama=Jamie Dimon. 0bama=John Boehner. 0bama=Lloyd Blankfein. 0bama=Henry Paulson. He is the ENEMY!!! He is here to DESTROY US!!!
If we accomplish nothing else in 2012, we must, above all else, throw 0bama out of the White House.
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
one of my faves…with Daffy Duck and Yosemite Sam
Franken is the classic Democratic victim of Stockholm syndrome. He was a liberal to the core until he got scared out of being one. The young ones who embrace the cult of awesome O I just figure are ignorant of history. That’s what happens when they tell you going to B school provides an education. But the old timers like Franken are beaten down defeated liberals. They knew better once and they’re afraid to know it now.
Yes!he deserves it,Obama is horseshit.
This is the guy leading the Dem Party but think of it,the folks in leadership are all incapable of fighting for Democartic principles.
Harry Reid doesn’t even have the strength to raise his voice,Pelosi more than corrupt and more concerned about her rich upper class welfare.Steny Hoyer never meet a Corporation he won’t do back flips for.Clyburn,well he shamelessly has no problems asking Corporations to employ his family members to high paying jobs.
Now you really think these corrupt souls will fight to protect our,ordinary Americans interest ?
shock doctrine
knock the hell out of consumers.homeowners
lower their wages so they default
pick up the loot
Well, of course, it doesn’t. These clowns are professional politicians (and not very good ones, I might add) who’ve never held a real job in their lives, studied law (generally) instead of economics, and don’t care about your mother so long as their own mothers are okay.
Inclined to agree. Hard to explain it any other way, unless somehow someone is seriously threatening Franken in some odd way. Nothing would surprise me anymore.
Isn’t Klobuchar up for re-election in 2012 ?
This would be a good time to get rid of her,she is more than willing to endorse blue-dogs policies,she needs to go.
i have no idea what clinton meant when he said the following, but it’s seems on topic and maybe someone here can parse it for me (from the peterson so-called fiscal summit):
http://www.netrootsmass.net/2011/06/bill-clinton-deficit-hawk-at-peterson-foundation-2011-fiscal-summit/
I am salivating at the thought of BO and his entire party going down, every one of these god-damn useless dems. If ever there was a time to hit the reset button, this is it!
His job has always been to extract the accumulated wealth of the middle class to pay for the MIC’s expansion of the empire. He’s the salesman at the front door who’s there to distract you while thieves are raiding the inside of your house.
Here at FDL, we often talk about the revolving cast of villains, by which we’re most speaking about members of the putative “Democratic” party, and how they take turns voting for horseshit legistation that they *know for sure* their “small people” voter constituents do NOT want/like/approve of.
For me, this is just about enlarging the revolving cast of villians to include both branches of the Corporatist One Party. Really we all knew that the so-called “Republicans” would emerge and begin tossing Obama under the bus for gutting Soc Sec & Medicare. Of course, it also gins up their stupified base. But hey: whaddatheygonnadoaboudit? Eff all.
It’s just revolving villains across the One Party. Today’s it’s the so-called “ReThug’s” turn to diss Barry Zero.
Whatever.
Time for citizens to wake up & smell the coffee. Doesn’t matter who ya voted for or what “party” you identify with… we’ve all be royally screwed.
For the NeoCons, Obama is the best President EVAH!
lets keep it simple,no DINOS 3rd Wayers,Dlcers,Neoliberals,yellow dogs or Blue(must be a song here)
Democrats from the progressive Democratic wing…or Uncle Mitty …here i come
As well my fave, along with Foghorn.
In her movie review of Amadeus, the late Pauline Kael wrote that Tom Hulce’s Mozart is the Roadrunner and F. Murray Abraham’s Salieri is Wile E. Coyote.
my parents were once the victims of a smah and grab(brick) robbery while driving
it is exactly like that
like wha,wha what happened?
beep beeep
Slavery broke up the Whig Party and Social Security might brake up the Democratic Party. Just because we have a two party system, it doesn’t mean that it always has to be the same two parties.
and then comes the highly paid media,to tell ya the shit sandwich tastes great,have another
I’m increasingly viewing things as Inner Party, Outer Party and Proles
one of my top 5 fave flicks….must have viewed it 20x
nevermind! i replied before i finished reading the thread.
Amy and the people who bought her are probably threatening him.
It just floors me that Paul Wellstone could walk the walk and he was just a little homely professor at an expensive liberal arts college. And they say liberals can’t win selling liberal policies! Of course they can, if they spend more time talking to the people of Minnesota than they do selling themselves to lobbies.
Heh.
Maybe we should work to move the Republicans back to the Nixonian left.
WHUT!
To me this sort of thing suggests the futility of simply replacing politicians in a broken system. If Franken can become a “lying liar,” then the interests and dictates of the system throw trump against would be agents of change and new blood simply becomes the old guard. If one assumes that the legitimate way to change the system is via the agents who run it, then we are faced with a downward spiral.
Obama the Frog: This time is the time that the scorpion won’t sting me.
That’s okay. I just don’t think it’s a good idea to call anyone an oreo.
in terms of who is calling the shots, i expect you are very right about this.
hard to tell, but there may be some members of both parties that, if the puppeteer strings were cut, would be quite willing, even eager to do better for the people.
i think i can see the broad outlines of the kabuki, but not enough about most of the individual players to make any kind of guess, let alone judgement.
Agree.
Time for an end to political tribalism. That’s why we can’t go along with DNC/OFA bs fear mongering about “what if a Republican wins the WH in 2012?” Big whoop. There’s been a Republican in the WH since 2001 (or 1981, depending on your view of Clinton). There’s a Republican in the WH right now. He is exactly identical in policy to the Cheney-Bush Gang. Time for him to leave. And that goes for every other fake Democrat in Congress who lined up and voted for 0bama’s tax cuts for the rich, 0bama’s endless wars, 0bama’s domestic spying, 0bama’s murder-by-drone program, 0bama’s “state secrets” cure-all, etc., ad nauseam. No more voting for status quo. If our politicians are not working for the electorate, out they go!
This is not politics, it’s Class War. Millionaire/billionaire politicians do not, can not, and will not ever represent people who work for a living. They are in office exclusively to further the aims of the ultra-wealthy, i.e., themselves. They are not our friends, they are the enemy.
what would you call a black man that only services his white ,rich masters?
I don’t have to call anyone names. It is a very insulting term to African-Americans. I don’t care for Powell, and I certainly don’t like Obama but I can leave out the name calling.
Patty Murray has always been a dino pos. I had some hope for Cantwell, simply because she voted against tarp, etc., but I came to the realization that I had been duped by the rotating villain strategy. And of course, the next great liberal governor of our great state, Inslee, also voted yes. And all these white Republicans over here in Yakima still hate Obama and the dinos, but I cannot for the life of me figure out why.
Obama as Bobby Fischer (snicker):
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/08/obama-as-chess-master-think-of-him-as-bobby-fischer/243139/
well Dr. West concurs
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/interviews/princeton-professor-dr-cornel-west-2/
(redacted)
dont call her a DINO Twain wont like it
That’s 19x more than me, wish it could be 20x more. *g*
Go Figure
*heh* You tell ‘em, Bubba…!
Particularly rich coming from the man who actually did dismantle the Safety Net, and, even repealed Glass-Steagall…! 8-(
They stopped using lard long ago. It’s no longer a slur. Unless you think Hydroxes are better.
I got nuthin’ against purple dinosuars…..
they are both yummy
oh yah
i absolutely loved that movie…love the opera too
Dr.West for prez 12
A minor quibble and could go either way, but inclined to agree. My bet is that Barry Zero is a certified card-carrying member of the Inner Party, but is a big poseur as being in the Outer party. Ptoui!
Do you realize that Milos Forman perverted One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, Hair, & Ragtime, in that order, before he got to Amadeus? But it doesn’t hurt our friendship, s. *g*
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-august-2-2011/fowl-wind?xrs=share_copy
Looney tunes fans should watch this clip for the Elmer Fudd interview.
Amen. I’ve been doing my best to discuss with my friends how the so-called “two party” system is dead and gone, and that the right v. left paradigm has been wholly replaced by the upper 2% manipulating and ripping off the lower 98%.
This is only about a class war. The so-called “Democrats” have wholly & totally capitulated and been bought off by the PTB. As discussed up above, even stalwarts like Al Franken have capitulated and sold out; same for Barney Frank, and even Durbin used to be a semi-decent poltician, but not no more.
Every last one of the fed pols in Dee Cee is a bought-off shill out to make money only for themselves and their fat-cat masters.
Citizens buy into tribal politics at their own peril. Whether “Democratic” or “Republican,” voters clinging to their team identities will be misled, ripped off and sold down the river.
Time to wake up.
that clip was before the deficit fake crisis,wonder what he thinks now,im sure he wont say
Are we making bets? Laying odds? I’ll take some of the action that says Obama will win in 2012. As things are now, which is to say barring some unforeseen event, he will get another 4 years.
Why? He is still quite useful in the real game of transferring wealth upward. There is a lot of good cop life left in the overall con. There is little chance of him being primaried. And lastly, the Reps don’t need–and therefore so far haven’t come up with–a better candidate.
Maybe, but I’ve pretty much gotten to the point that I don’t think any of these mega-rich sociopaths give a sh*t about any of the 98% anymore. Many used to have more concern and caring and have much more of real public service attitude. I think those days, and those kinds of politicians, are long long gone. That spirit truly died along with Ted Kennedy, imo.
Wishing and hoping that one of these POS pols will actually have a conscience or become concerned or caring… don’t count on it. As long as they got THEIRS, they don’t give a sh*t about anyone or anything else…. more’s the pity. Best to face the music, though.
I’ll take some of that action as well. My bet: Obama “wins” by a huge landslide in 2012… so he’ll have his big fat mandate to continue the wealth transfer upwards.
Anyone who thinks that any of these sleazy skeevy pols is actually going to “win” via, ya know, “votes”… well, sorry to say that the joke’s on you.
The mega-gazillionaires like Obama just fine. That they do. He’s their guy.
yup,no more Kennedys around
Source: Associated Press
Bank of New York Mellon Corp. said Thursday that it will charge its customers a fee to hold cash deposits over $50 million.
The bank said it has seen such a large increase in deposits over the last month that it will charge a 0.13 percent fee to clients with “extraordinary high deposit levels.” Bank of New York Mellon, which has $23.6 trillion in client assets under its custody, said customers have moved money to cash as a safe haven in the past month as investments like stocks and bonds have become increasingly volatile.
The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release September 08, 2010
Remarks by the President on the Economy in Parma, Ohio
Cuyahoga Community College West Campus, Parma, Ohio
“Now, we have a different vision for the future. See, I’ve never believed that government has all the answers to our problems. I’ve never believed that government’s role is to create jobs or prosperity. I believe it’s the drive and the ingenuity of our entrepreneurs, our small businesses; the skill and dedication of our workers — (applause) — that’s made us the wealthiest nation on Earth. (Applause.) I believe it’s the private sector that must be the main engine for our recovery.
I believe government should be lean; government should be efficient. I believe government should leave people free to make the choices they think are best for themselves and their families, so long as those choices don’t hurt others. (Applause.)”
those days are done, and anyone who compares Obama to LBJ is so full of it that it’s not worth mentioning
Well, right there’s the big tell: these choices made by these wealthy sh*ts in Dee Cee are definitely going to hurt 98% of the population very badly.
Of course, these choices will not hurt the politicians in Dee Cee one iota, so what do they care? tra la la la… can’t heeeeaaar you… is their response to us, the “voters.”
“it was an eleventy-dimensional negotiating tactic and Obama didn’t really mean it when he said he wanted cuts”
I wonder if the DNC will try to squeeze this into a bumper sticker.
Even Marked Up, Luxury Goods Fly Off Shelves
Source: New York Times
Nordstrom has a waiting list for a Chanel sequined tweed coat with a $9,010 price. Neiman Marcus has sold out in almost every size of Christian Louboutin “Bianca” platform pumps, at $775 a pair. Mercedes-Benz said it sold more cars last month in the United States than it had in any July in five years.
Even with the economy in a funk and many Americans pulling back on spending, the rich are again buying designer clothing, luxury cars and about anything that catches their fancy. Luxury goods stores, which fared much worse than other retailers in the recession, are more than recovering — they are zooming. Many high-end businesses are even able to mark up, rather than discount, items to attract customers who equate quality with price.
“Particularly rich coming from the man who actually did dismantle the Safety Net, and, even repealed Glass-Steagall…! 8-(” ?????/?
The work requirement to welfare is the only “negative” to the safety net – and there were 2 vetoes and forced improvements that only stopped when blue dogs plus GOP MEANT A VETO PROOF bill had been passed -
but you knew that history
And you knew that as Krugman has noted, the G-S change to mergers had near zero effect on the 2008 crisis – a crisis caused by Greenspan not allowing the Fed to regulate -
but you knew that -
very confusing…..
spot on
Tom Tomorrow illustrates another truth.
I called her office the day of the vote and her staff said that she announced on MPR that she was voting yes. Then I called Franken and the person I talked to in his office was very proud that he was voting yes. They both need to go. We need another candidate to jump in soon.
Prior to her endorsement we were warned about her but we didn’t listen. AFSCME tried to tell us about her. No one really likes her. I don’t think she would be that hard to beat.
Which is why we need TERM LIMITS……..
I wish we could get Dave Wellstone to run….
Glenn Greenwald argues that Obama is not as weak as many are saying he is. He got what he wanted most in the debt ceiling deal: painful cuts. He just often publicly lies about what he wants.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/08/01/debt_ceiling/index.html
Unless something very unusual and unlikely happens, Obama is going to lose big in 2012. And he deserves to lose big.
Somehow I’m envisioning his resignation before the 2012 election.
Happened to unintentionally catch Santorum on Fox tonight while out having a beer with a buddy. He was spouting some bullshit about Dems and how their big government programs weren’t creating jobs (prep for the slash and burn that is in the works) while Susteren was comparing the US economy to an aircraft carrier (it turns slowly, doncha know). Ye gods, the Reps got nobody. But again, why would they need anyone when they get so much of what they want with Obama while being able to keep up the pretense of party opposition and all the great theater that goes with it. Not that it matters who wins for the vast majority of US citizens.
Tell me more. And what are the stakes on the bet?
“Deserve’s got nuthin’ to do with it.” –Bill Munny :)
Did anyone else catch the talking heads on MSNBC telling us that some 60% of “liberal Democrates” approve of this piece of crap legislation?? I hate to sound like a tin-foil hatter, but I think someone is lying to us. My gut says that it’s flat out impossible for that the vast majority of liberals are okay with this. And the big talking point for a couple of months now is all about how the progressive base is still behind Obama.
I don’t f***ing believe one word of it.
Glad someone is hitting back from the left because the actual left has been ignored.
OBAMA: “We then offered an additional $650 billion in cuts to entitlement programs
$600 billion cuts to Defense would be like Armageddon or something.
These people have screwed up priorities. No mention of the people of the US in this. War for it’s own sake.
We need a a national poll.
Should start a campaign to dump all the congressman/senators who voted for this bill starting with the top three posts
I don’t waste my time making bets with people I don’t know.
There is nearly no chance of Obama getting re-elected because the unemployment rate in October 2012 will be higher than it was in January 2009. That means Obama loses the swing voters big time. He is being led by his Republican masters into making all the wrong moves and there will be a double-dip recession, despite the mildly encouraging employment numbers for July that were just released. Further, he is losing many liberal votes, even though some will be fooled into voting for him anyway because the Republicans are sure to nominate someone very obnoxious.
Copy and paste this post into a text document and take another look at it in a year.
What they don’t say is that Obama cannot afford to lose any liberal votes.
Name me ONE constitutency where Obama gets more votes in 2012 than he did in 2008. This chasing independents is fantasy. We all know these people. They vote on how they’re feeling today. They gave Obama a chance many of them reluctantly. He didn’t deliver. They want evidence. They don’t want promises. Liberals accept promises!!! Whoa, we’ve been surviving on the exhaust fumes of the New Deal for the last 40 years. Now, we have a President dedicated to messaging AGAINST our core values and core programs. You don’t get my vote PROMISING to cut Medicare. Because you offer me NOTHING in return. I didn’t even support LBJ because he gave us war but he also gave us Medicare. Obama still wants to give us the war but he wants to take away Medicare.
Why would I vote for him?????? Because Republicans are crazier? Yeah, that would work IF Obama was trying to stop them not doing his very best to give them everything they want.
US voters make autonomous and informed decisions and then their votes determine who the president is? I guess I had not considered that possibility. Thank you very much for dismissing my friendly bet. You saved me from really losing my shirt.