I am biting my nails here, far, far south of Wisconsin, hoping for good news.

Most of all, hoping that good news will give some backbone to Dems in Congress, who will at last realize that standing up for something is far more “popular” with voters than constant caving on principle.

Like Maddow and Robinson just said, a lot of the enthusiasm in Wisconsin is simply for the fact of the fight…they’re fighting back against the electoral coup of Walker’s Republicans, and that’s keeping them going.

On Wisconsin!

Read that Walker got booed off the stage at the state fair. That’s so great.

Isn’t that exciting and refreshing…We can keep hoping….

Yeah, love that.

Saw a clip the other day of Alberta Darling, bewildered by the fact of the recall, saying something like “I don’t understand it! Just when so much is going so right!”

I really, really, really hope she goes down.

Does anyone know how heavily the unions are involved getting out the vote today?

My stomach is in knots. I may have to have a rum and tonic soon. And I don’t hardly ever drink.
Fingers crossed and praying. And I don’t hardly ever pray but I do gamble from time to time.

Mary, I feel the same way. So much is riding on this.

Don’t know precisely, but there’s a lot of recall campaign info and photos at this site:

http://bit.ly/qmvsYp

Have two Mary one for you and one for Ron!! Hope all is well with you guys☺ ☺

Feels a lot like gambling, doesn’t it?

maddow just admitted she reads from a teliprompter. Said she didn’t want to make up stuff. But all she is doing is reading from a pre recorded script. Enuf said

Thanks for the live-blog David, but after the Prosser/Kloppenburg debacle I won’t believe the results until they are certified…

On Wisconsin!

anyone know what it takes to “un”-gerrymander those districts?

We are good. Hope you are the same.

This may be a complete outlier, but the second I heard about the S&P downgrade (even before all the hysteria & nonsense that followed), the first thing I thought was – damn, there goes the recall. Sure it’s a bit of a stretch to imagine that S&P’s motives had anything to do with a small state situation, but it aligns nicely with the need for the MOTUs to nip any progressive resurgence in the bud.

Paranoid. Ya. But the coincidences do just keep piling up.

Finally, someone with an idea on

How to take back the political policies stolen by the Right.

Share.

Thom Hartmann: The Mystery of the Concord Project you need to know

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FnHvrmjGnaU

Share.

re-redistrict the forkers.

Appreciate your effort on covering this live Mr. Dayen, thanks, and the page is open all night here to view and review . . . bless WI adnd give ‘em hell Badgers . . .

It seems that the S&P debacle would help the dems in WS. It is so clearly partisan and crooked.

I’m only lurking, but wanted to say thanks, David.

Rock on Wiconsin!

Doing great Mary doing great.
Oh and rooting for Norski and friends!!! Sure hope they take most of the seats..

Crap. The repugs are ahead in five of the races so far. Hope this doesn’t hold.

maddow just admitted she reads from a teliprompter. Said she didn’t want to make up stuff. But all she is doing is reading from a pre recorded script. Enuf said

PEOPLE WAKE UP. THE SO CALLED LIBERAL LEFT READ FROM A SCRIPT. In fact she was obviously nervous that she might have to speak without being told what to say. She is just another puppet.

Hartmann is a shill for gold coins . . . I wouldn’t follow him as a proggy any further than I’d follow Ron Paul cuz he’s ‘sposedly anti war . . . .

Now they (dems) are down in all of the races.

Deilbold effect???

WTF’s that got to do with this thread and WI voting?

*shakeshishead*

Same to dakoda, too . . .

Where’s gvandergrift? Heh.

Um, all talking head spokesmodels read from scripts. It’s only panels that don’t.

I’m on my second glass of Shiraz. It will be huge if all of the Dems fail.

Just one basic question. With the governor acting as a dictator in total control can we trust the election results? How are they being counted?

Whatthehell does reading from a TelePromTer have to do with anything? Do you expect these people to memorize their show eery day? How would you like to go out and fill an hour just by talking off the top of your head? The show puts the script on a TelePromTer so it can flow coherently. Those are Rachel’s words, with her involvement.

What a stupid comment. I rarely diss another commenter, but this is ludicrous.

It probably takes recalling the governor and the majority Republicans.

Not looking good. In every race, the GOP (i) is leading, with the exception of Senate 32, where it’s tied. And 32 was the one everyone was saying was a lock for the Dems.

Bad. Bad. Bad.

you might think that or you might think people are too interested in their video games to care.

Hey Mary, whatcha using for sources?

yep.

AP

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/127331193.html

No kidding. I was going to refrain, but…when a 2nd one joined in..Do people think Teleprompter provides some external script? sheesh.
It’s just a tool. And not just flow, but it also means the anchor/host etc. can look at the camera, instead of down at a paper on the desk like the olden days.

I don’t believe these numbers. How can the turn out be over 70% and the numbers look like this? Usually, I am not surprised but right now I am.

It’s really, really early, you know. One percent in..doesn’t mean much.

Do.not.panic.

SHIT!!!!!! I know that lately I’ve been the doom and gloom poster, but a part of me couldn’t help but hope. There was so much exictment today; I can’t believe it’ll end in favor of the GOP.

Oh please God…..

Breathe, Mary, Breathe………

shit, that didn’t work.

inhale, exhale, inhale, exhale, inhale, exhale, inhale, exhale, inhale, exhale……………………………………………………………………

clunk
.

Think video games.

Nothing in the house to drink, but the live WI Public Radio feed can be picked up here for those of you lucky enough to have broadband access.

http://wisconsinvote.org/

Live links on the front page. It’s carried live on my local WPR affiliate.

Must be overwhelmed. I couldn’t get on.

44% of the precincts reporting in some of the districts.

Given the last race outcomes in WI and the horrid behavior of the elections person, I doubt the results can be trusted any further than one could throw a Diebold machine . . .

We are in it for the next ten years, from my understanding. It is an action that follows the next U.S. census.

Thanks . . . *G*

Ya think??? I am sure there are many on the left who are following this sitting on pins & needles… I know I am..

Really. Rachel is just a puppet there to pretend there is a different voice. How can she be live and be so scripted. Please she is just part of the illusion that we have choices

6 inches… they anchor them..

Oh the hell is this happening? ALL of them? We’re going down in ALL of them! Are there any secret Democratic pockets that haven’t been counted?

In this day and age I wouldn’t expect Rachel or any of the other show hosts (or politicians or any other public speakers) to memorize or read from 3X5 note cards. This idea that someone reads from a TelePromTer means their comments are scripted by someone else is a right wing meme that got a lot of play with Obama’s election.

They ALL use TelePromTers, and we would too if wer were going in front of a national audience.

Geez, get a grip, mswinkle.

Kelly: heh…

On edit: haven’t seen a few of our “favorite” trolls around lately. Have you?

Would’ve been nice if all those folks turned out to vote.

Looks like it’s an hour behind the AP feed Mary shared, but thanks.

If you want to feel better about something listen to this Dylan Ratigan Rant.

They are saying that the turn out is over 70%. That is very good.

Just went thru the AP link at 6:50 our time, it’s a shellacking!

More than half Many of the races are GOP leading by half or more!

Wow . . . it’s early but . . .

DRINK. Another! Another! Zonk.

I learned a long time ago that people really don’t understand how much politics has to do with their very lives. It’s something that is somewhere else and doesn’t concern them. Who knew?

Remember when Maddow and Kieth got called to the White House awhile back. Well who stayed at MSNBC and who got fired. There is no doubt in my mind.

Is anyone doing exit polling?

I almost couldn’t. I hate these things when the host and guests are all yelling over each other. I have no idea what points any of them were making. At least Rachel and KO are relatively calm and respectful. Dylan may be making points I agree with 100% but I’ll never be able to extract it from the yelling.

Well, it doesn’t look good, but consider. The reporting is in from small places, judging by number of polls/precincts whatever. smaller places tend to be more conservative, I expect more Dem votes from cities.

Thanks for staying up and holding hands, David and all.

And finally, I have a ‘nit’ to pick:

Amid high but nit uniformly high turnout, voters

probably should read ‘not’

Did you listen to it? Yes, he was more angry than I have ever seen him but that is what makes it worth watching.

;-)

Seems to be tightening…

The way to stop Obama from gutting SSI, Medicare, and Medicaid is simple.

Push the GOP to impeach him. This will get him off track real quick and give someone else a chance at the Dem primary.

It will also make the GOP & Tea Party even more unpopular.

Oh come on. Take that crap somewhere else, willya? Have you ever done a live TV show or a nationally broadcast speech? Get a clue.

Lol…hang in there, mary!
I should get out my yoga mat …need to anyway.

I refuse to give up yet.

It took all I had to stay until the end. I just hate that kind of thing. He was saying something about the people being “withdrawn” — if I have that right. It was just yelling as far as I’m concerned.

No doubt he is sincere and one of “us” but that rant wouldn’t persuade me of anything. (Maybe it’s generational or something. But I can’t watch those guys who rant and yell. I wonder how many folks like me are “out there” and react the way I do?)

Every time the Republicans steal an election they have a cover story and people buy that story instead of investigating the theft.

Obviously the cover story for the Wisconsin Recalls will be the amount of money the Koch people spent. They did, but if we don’t insist on an investigation of these elections and just accept the cover story It will be just lousy.

Actually, I think KO was happy to quit. I’m not at all sure he was “fired.”

Where’s Norske?

damn – I was out all day in berlin and ripon, GOTV from lists. I don’t knwo where the names fully came from, people that signed recalls petitions I am sure, but also independent voters (and probalby dems).

I felt pretty good from what I heard in the field – its still early, but if we are approaching 50 percent reporting in dist 14 and olsen is up 10, I have to be depressed.

I can understand if we don’t get olsen – he has to run next year anyhow, but if we don’t flip three, I won’t even post what I think will happen.

Is there any source or does anyone have info on what is outstanding in 14 and likelyhood that it will help Clark catch up?

I’m hoping he’s watching the returns with the folks he’s been pounding the pavement with during the GOTV effort… Or maybe in a ballroom somewhere with one of the candidates…

Holy shit!

I got to 1:10 in and began to hyperventilate with his truths!

WOW!

*G*

Hiya, eCAHN! *waves*

I’m sitting on my screened porch drinking Shiraz and listening to the locusts (or something) chirping in my trees. Love this time of year!

Hey eCAHN.

The bigger cities haven’t reported yet. So, it could turn back towards the dems.

Gotta put him on my future POTUS list lets see, there’s RFK Jr, Vetura, Smiley, West, Papantonio, and Ratigen.

I’m sure there were truths. I couldn’t find them among the screeching and yelling.

And I’ve now said that too many times, and I will stop. I’m turning into the guy yelling at clouds, I think.

Hi y’all. Turning in. Will get results in am.

Eight of the 51 Milwaukee County precincts just came in big for Pasch with 68% of the vote!

you PC people ,who cant take the heat,should get out of the kitchen…they plutocracy is trying with everything they have to steal the carcass of this country…..completely…YES THERE WILL BE SCREAMING

Whoa – per Schulz- Pasch just took lead from Darlng!
This ain’t over yet, folks. Don’t give up now!

Plus, we MUST learn from the TP Rethugs – they lost and lost and lost until they began to win, because they didn’t giv eup, they kept coming back, learning and applying the lessons.
We have to do the same. Even if the country doesn’t tip back in my lifetime, we have to keep working.

Nite eCahn.

Andrew Kroll tweeting live from Madison

Pasch (D) closes gap with Darling (R) big time – 45%-55% with 15% reporting in District 8 #wiunion #wirecall

Pasch (D) just took the lead from Darling (R), but there is still a long way to go… only 15 of 82 precincts in.

call ya in the AM

Good!!!!

OOPS Wisconsin sorry, too many beers today.

well DAYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM goooood!

Brad Friedman has been reporting that exit pollsters have been banned for doing their work:

Despite having permission in advance to conduct the polls last July, the G.A.B. rescinded that permission claiming they didn’t understand in advance the type of polls EDA was to conduct, and considered that to be “electioneering” because the papers used had the names of the candidates (all of the candidates mind you) on them within the 100 ft. perimeter. [emph. added]

“No one is permitted to distribute any literature within 100 feet that contains the names of any candidate on the ballot that day. That is electioneering, and could be confusing to voters,” Magney told us. “Regular exit pollsters conduct their business by interviewing voters and recording the answers themselves.”

Later, after some checking, Magney retracted that, explaining, “I think they’re done both ways. We’ve just recently received some information about exit polls being done in writing, so I’m feeling a bit unsure of what I wrote earlier.”

Nonetheless, by then it was too late and the pollsters were unable to collect the data required for their polls from the 100 ft. perimeter they were required to stay out of.

Well, isn’t that special. crap.

Winning is a lot easier when you lie, steal and cheat.

Niters eCAHN.

Yeah you may be right on that still seems fishy to me.

Thanks for all the work here, Put your feet up, and may I offer you a beverage?

thats just it,they will use ANY means neccessary,they are Not nice people,one cant play nice,or weak ,or timid with them

I heard KO call Peter King an asshole the other night. First he called him a traitor then he corrected himself and called him an asshole.

Best. Rant. Evah.

He hit every point I’ve ever heard or read about in less than 5 minutes!

*G*

Bookmarked, might need that fix at dif times in the near future.

Altho, I don’t give a shit about Obama and Obama will NEVER do what Ratigan implores . . . . but it’s still a good rant!

*G*

More proggy’s need to rant like this, every where, every chance, and blow the opposition out of the water . . . never give ‘em more n a few words, cut them off and rant some more.

I mean this in PUBLIC DISCOURSE.

Face to face. Enough others listening in will get the details after the rant is done . . . ;-)

AP has called Districts 2 and 10 for the incumbent GOP. They’re close to calling 14 for the GOP as well. How many did we have to win to take the Senate?

The Tea Pary had the financial backing of right-wing corporations. Lately, I find myself thinking more and more “little fish meet big fish”.

At the most, we’ll win two. And I’m not at all optimistic about that. So what’s next? I’m not kidding when I suggest that we begin voting for the most extreme Republicans we can find. It’ll take something big to truly wake up the American voters and bring them to the streets, so maybe the smart move is to try to hasten that.

bravo,YES WE CAN and should
alota people mistake kindness for weakness
we are KIND and STRONG

Short night. Fuck.

It could scan that way, but here’s my take.

The Dems (OBAMA) are in charge and the American Economy is officially no longer number one! (According to a corrupt financial company – but an idea bolstered by legions of Repubs/Dems and media.) First time ever! OMG! Blame the non-job creators and spenders. Debt. Holly Sh*t. Fear and Ego are a toxic mix: see response to 9/11.

Americans do not like losers, and do not like to lose. They do not like to be afraid (despite being very good at it). Who will they run to for safety? Someone decisive? Someone promising to return our country to us? Someone who will make us number one in the eyes of the world?

This S%P freakout is an electoshock to the psyche of the electorate that completely skews the path the election was on. Teachers, firemen, fair elections? Who cares? This may screw up the whole thing.

That’s what I meant.

Shenanigans? Shawano County has fully reported, according to the AP, with *5* total votes. Huh?

are ya sure,gotta link

Well, we’ll never know. But he is a millionaire a few times over, so didn’t need the job, and seems to be freer to speak his mind on Current. We shall see. I think Rachel might think about jumping someday if MSNBC clamps down, but she’s not yet the multi-millionaire that KO certainly is.

he is a troll

Brad Friedman has been reporting that exit pollsters have been banned for doing their work.

Ban the exit pollsters….. of course. That would have given us independent verification of the results. Now we have nothing but the good word of the people in control, all good GOP’ers.

Nope – you are missing the 6,000 votes from Shawano in District 2.

Yeah, I heard that, too. A nice bit, I think. KO is over the top sometimes, but mostly he’s on target and I like that.

uhm,you count his money? Rachel just signed a huge contract…just sayin

Screw off and see the AP link,

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2011/by_county/WI_State_Senate_0809.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS

*aargh* The asswipes knew exactly what they were doing…!

Makes it easier for Diebold to credibly flip the votes… No benchmark to keep ‘em honest…! *gah*

smells fishy

We know there will be cheating. Is there any democrat anywhere willing to fight it, though?

N blood, too, before it’s over . . . and if austerity pisses off the poor and they begin to riot like they did in the 60′s (Watts/Detroit) and during Rodney King’s beating it won’t matter whose side yer on, the rioting will likely impact everyone, WHETHER they are averse to screaming or not . . . see London. Only, half this country has guns and enough ammo to out shoot half the military. N they ain’t all white, either . . . . or registered.

Hell yes there’s screaming, n it’s gonna get FAR worse before it’s over.

you trolled here all afternoon

Then there’s hope?!?

need 3 seats

electronic voting machines

The GOP has and will always stop at nothing to maintain their stranglehold on power including treason which is just another option in their play book.

I’m not talking about the Shawano precincts in District 2. One precinct in Shawano County is in District 14 (where evil scumball Luther Olsen is running), it’s reporting a total of 5 votes. Really? Surely there were more than 5 poll workers there.

AP link: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2011/by_county/WI_Page_0809.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS

i dont know,Southern Dragon,gave him a piece this afternoon

No response to you, ever.

and that changes the votes exactly how?

The AP numbers are hundreds, so 500 votes.

every trick in the book,they are up 24/7 doing their evil

never ASSUME

Going to bed. Not gonna be decided tonight, methinks. Hope for good news tomorrow.

Nighters, all!

*heh* If SD got his dander up, it’s a troll.

True. But we still have to keep going.

(geez..typing i s hard w/ heavy cat across one arm)

Three dems are in the lead. One barely.

Are you on drugs or something? The AP numbers are not in units of hundreds — that would add up to over 3 million votes cast already in the 14th district. Grow some IQ points or something.

I’m always amazed by how few people care about exit polling as a way to check on the veracity of the published results, and at how peoples’ eyes glaze over when you try to explain how easy it is to manipulate the Diebold accu-vote system and the optical scan system (like those used in WI) at the points of information collation.

Nite, ma’am. May you wake to happy news…

i go with SD s feelings anytime

I kinda think she has toned it down since radio and that may be what one has to do on TV, anyway I liked the radio Maddow better. Could be why I’ve been giving her the stink eye. Thanks for your thoughts.

wheres that gin?…………g

That has crossed my mind ..back to the early socialists’ strategy…provokes such harshness the people finally react. And it’s kind of what happened in Wisconsin; the R’s went nuts when the got in, and people woke up.

(on edit..sorry about typos…still have cat on left arm)

Wrong.

Be nice.

“Fueled by millions of dollars from national labor groups”

This from the HP with no mention of the millions funneled in by the Koch brothers et al.

Howie Klein sort of predicting Jessica King will win – “The 56 precincts in Fond du Lac in the 18th– most of the district– haven’t reported at all yet. That’s where Jessica King will beat Hopper.”

Still trawling away.
Normally best to completely ignore his kind.
But always good to warn others.

Huh, well . . . that IS a point . . . no proof here tonite yet . . . it’s early tho . .. ;-)

Ohio is the next big hope.

mebbe,ill go back to the afternoon thread
let me see

Finally, startin to look good.
Keep it up Wisconsin.

EXACTLY!!!!!! Nothing is by coincidence….it is by DESIGN!!

Don’t think DMVs have been closed down in Ohio dem districts. Yet.

I got in on that audio feed from that WI station . . . good stuff, and all over the latest info . . . . WI Public Radio . . .

Here’s The Direct Link To Audio

Radio calls 2 wins for GOP, 4 to go.

THink they are dists. 2 and 10 . . .

Ah let it slide, bigger fish to fry in the scheme of things . . . if you believe it’s a troll, you should just ignore it . . . it’s how they go away.

We’ve flogged this horse to death . . . WI is the topic methinks . . . ;-)

Pasch 56%
King 52%
Shilling 54%

Wishful thinking from the esteemed Mr Klein. Fond du Lac went 44% for Obama in 2008 and went 61-39 for Prosser in the Supreme Court election.

Next they’ll install firewalking pits in every hall of every polling place in every D precinct.

Over at DKos, they’re pessimistic about King but pretty certain that Shilling will win. This is all due to the votes that haven’t been counted yet.

Fond du Lac in…. not good

People are going to have to bring ID proving they are corporations.

Oh, my…there is hope indeed! Pash, King, Shilling.

King just dropped down to 49%. shit.

King is behind now

and the ID will cost $ 5,000 dollars. It’s a rigged game.

But Winnebago is still reporting and King has a large lead there already. There is hope. king has 53% in Winnebago now so maybe King will pull it out.

King just took a hit. Down 51 – 49.

Maybe we all need to draw up the papers of incorporation before it is too late. muthafuckas.

Did I just say that?

Isn’t Fond Du Lac where all the voting machine issues were today?

I’m going to register as Cialis just to see the look on the polling ladies’ faces.

Must be the rum talking.

Gawd, I hope so.

Fred Clark’s hometown Baraboo not reporting in yet, AP not calling it for Olsen, but Olsen is declaring himself a winner.

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Don’t feed the troll, please.

i might be mistaken….

hahahahahahahahaha call Hannity

The Twin Cities FOX affiliate (right across the border from Wisconsin) led tonight’s 9 PM news with the Dow’s big gain today. If they thought the recalls were going the GOP’s way, they’d have led with those. Fingers crossed!

See above…David thinks King might pull it off.

why is it sooooooooo close??
these goopers are looonies

Remember that all of these districts were originally rebugs.

King back in front

King has 50%!!

DKos changing their mind too and thinks King might win a squeaker.

I ask myself the same question every day. Far too many people vote against their own interests every single election.

Winnebago may decide the future of the country.

Imagine the results if we had a Democratic President.

Holy cow, you guys are smart, King just pulled ahead by less than 200 votes.

WooHoo! Shilling now declared winner against Kapanke!

You mean it “may decide whether the country has a future.”

i just cant get it…is it the media confusing them,are they being paid?

That’s a terrifying statement.

Just learned the Pasch race includes Waukesha County. No wonder they’re so slow. Takes time to figure out how many votes they need to report.

Shilling declared winner. Suuuweeet. Winner winner chicken dinner.

good point,too bad Muddy Waters already took that name…..G

Green Bay FOX affiliate fixated on Packers training camp. Duh, what’s important you know, who’s going to be outside linebacker? /s

WOOT!

Pasch race hasn’t budged in a long time. Curious.

hahahahahahsahshhsha

good!

AP has 3 called for the GOP (2nd, 10th and 14th). 32nd is called for the Dems and 8th will probably go that way, too, though a hell of a lot closer than it should have been.

18th is going to a runoff, which is a HUGE disappointment – Fond du lac voted GOP by a wide margin.

But don’t believe this “troll”. See for yourself.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2011/by_county/WI_State_Senate_0809.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS

Distraction and deception. That’s how ALL the corporate media works. The pampered and privilege spokesmodels have their corporate bosses to think about and don’t think for a second they arene’t given marching orders.

Is whatshername in Waukesha County still on the job or was she mercifully sacked?

Last time she waited until *after* the voting was finished to change the results.

Ahem. Let’s treat the state bird of Minnesota with some respect.

Probably got a promotion. Can’t let talent like that go unrewarded.

im sorry,SD is my friend,and the thread was confusing,i apologize if i was wrong

Ehhh me thinks they are too distracted with, fill in the blank, to pay attention enough. Also, a lot are just brainwashed so early that no matter how many facts you throw at them they won’t budge. But my votes for Jersey Shores on MTV. It’s causing everything to become infected.

is it the beautiful Loon?…you are correct,goopers are more like Dodos

WPR speculating at least two races might go into recounts.

Yay Jennifer!

Yay Wisconsin!

but they are about to lose SS,medicare etc

that is not good…ya know more Stalin counters

Bam just like that Pasch’s huge lead is gone

No kidding. Even kept the bag of ballots unsealed with almost no blowback. Those are some mad skillz.

Hmmm pay attention and get involved in protecting those things… or go watch Snooki get hammered and then get, well, nailed.

something is very rotten up there

How disappointing is it that 8th is tightening so much? Pasch was polling double digit leads last week.

It’s now 51/49.

too much riding on their critical thinking skillz

Pasch still leading, King may pull it out..honest, people, I think this is pretty good.
recalls are rare birds anyway, and an election in August?
I’m falling asleep – yeah, I know – been very very tired lately. Gonna stretch out with puter and tv remote within reach and doze…checking in periodically…
At least, without work to go to, one can stay up for these nail=biter late races.
Hope someone is tailing that WAukesha county clerk…

Pasch is still in the lead but if you look at how the districts are coming in she could still lose.

Waukesha is a huge GOP county and it’s barely reported yet. Pasch is toast.

this is really disappointing…..silly me thought SS and medicare are worth fighting for

260,000 registered voters and it’s going to be 60% GOP.

Yep, the official bird of the state of Minnesota is the Common Loon (Gavia immer).

We might take SD 18 & 32 but District 14 votes show Clark (D) lost by 2,189 votes out of over 50,000 votes counted

looks like it is down to Sd 8

French or wheat?

Zombie Dodos.

Waukesha, Waukesha, Waukesha.

guess ill go watch London burn,they are not kind to their plutocrats

Sometimes people just don’t know how important things are till they are gone.

Waukesha and Ozaukee have a pop of about 150k…Milwaukee on the other hand..about 1million…

Ahhh, well. The last time it felt like we “won”, we got Obama. So maybe a loss isn’t so bad in the long run.

But she is behind in Waukesha by 34%.

I really should be sleeping right now.

that is good to know.

they will find out …the REALLY hard way zombie Dodos

Waukesha has 260,000 registered voters.

http://gab.wi.gov/sites/default/files/page/reg_voters_by_county_august_2010_pdf_15332.pdf

707!

Yeah, doesn’t look good.

Lots of twitter comments on Waukesha and clerk Nickolaus.

I’m absolutely serious; why wouldn’t the Dems assign someone to literally watch her and her office? Make sure she’s not pulling shenanigans?

One tweet out of Wisconsin says Waukesha is the only county where the exit polling was banned.
This woman obviously needs to be removed from office, too.

Then go out with your R friends and celebrate.

me too,i promised myself i wouldnt do this anymore…hahahaha

Is that same place that stole the court election?

Washington county, that just gave Darling all those votes had a nearly 60% turnout. Does that seem a bit high to you all?

oh my my personal shopper just arrived!
what is AF clothing?

Clean up on aisle 249.

go screw yourself, you stupid shlock selling dickweed. sorry mods, I won’t do that again. heh.

This is nothing less than a disaster. I’m glad that we picked up on, maybe two. But the national press is going to spin and spin to the right.

I think until we put all of our focus into setting up safe-guards for fair and accurate elections, then we’ll never make any real progress. We HAVE to have verifiable results. We can work and work, but we’ll be going uphill with a ten pound weight on our backs the entire way.

I do not believe that this country is as conservative as recent elections seem to show. But without accurate results, we’ll never know for sure one way or another. And if the GOP is truly stealing the elections as many of use believe, then we’ll never win if we continue to play under their rules for monitoring elections.

If I’m not mistaken, Waukesha is where the lady who keeps votes on her personal computer is in control. Why did Democrates go into that election with that still in place???

Over 569k in Milwaukee. So what’s your point?

LMAO.
But he has Nike and handbags.
Wonder if he sells ponies?

yeah, my bad…looked at city by mistake the first time…its still about 500k to 1million all in all…not sure about registered

Did they have a choice?

All this election excitement makes me feel like shopping. I wonder where I could buy a new bikini?

Bowers:

King has it. That’s two for us, three for them, and one left. We win the tie

Dkos says King wins. Out of reach for the repub. So, that’s 2.

What happened to the flag button?

Why so glum? We are ahead in three races. Don’t wig out till it’s over.

I don’t recall her being replaced but Waukesha has only one of eleven precincts so Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus (R) may be waiting to plug in the proper figures if they haven’t taken away her personal computer yet. Wish I knew more.

So, we are waiting on Pasch?!

707

No, it’s clear from Wisconsinites that she is in place. What I haven’t been able to find out if whether anyone is really keeping an eye on her.

Definitely need to get rid of her.

DanSoCal quoted 1 million in Milwaukee. Was just correcting his comment.

It comes. It goes.
It is a horrible date.
And not a cheap one either.

Mods please kill @249

King goes to a runoff.

should have been replaced,before the damn election!

8:34 PM PT: For the record, there hasn’t been an update from Waukesha County for two hours. Just sayin’.

From DKos. Really, WTF? Please tell me some dem protected the integrity of the voting there.

apparently.

and whoever upthread was questioning these Dems not having a minder in Waukesha has not been paying attention

Nope, King now has 51%.

OK everyone time to call it. Diebold has spoken. Or Nickolaus has.

About 40% of the people who use these programs don’t even realize that they’re using government programs.

“I’ve been on food stamps and welfare, did anybody help me out? No. No.” – Craig T. Nelson

At what margin?

Aaaand the crowd (Madison at EdShow) goes wild as ra ce is called for Jessica King over Randy Hopper!

Hope it’s accurate! That gives us/Wisconsin the two wins needed!

Free Shipping!!

I just got back from WI today. I so wish I was there tonight. One thing I heard is that it is family members against family members. People are saying, “I want my state back. It never was like this before.”

I feel for them. I hope we can get 3.

Why aren’t you out with your R friends celebrating?
Maybe you and Nickolaus can have a drink.
Get to know each other.
Swap stories.
Have some laughs over election tampering … you know, the usual.

Makes sense to me.

if these peeps are this stooopit to vote for the thieving pukes again,well i just dont know what to say about it….just wow

Nerve-wracking face-off between Milwaukee County & Waukesha County. Milwaukee waiting until the church lady in Waukesha reboots her Vaio. or whatever the eff she uses to run that spreadsheet.

AP says that King won.

It’s about 500 votes right now.

Xist on a cracker,guess they will when the check doesnt come…crimminy jones!

Not the AP I’m looking at….

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2011/by_county/WI_State_Senate_0809.html?SITE=AP&SECTION=POLITICS

Yeah, there was telling chart somewhere just recently of a long list of programs, including tax credits, and the ridiculously high percentage of people surveyed who admitted taking advanatage of X program, but also declaring “I’ve never used any government program.”

Sheesh.
And as if driving over paved roads weren’t using a government program, or putting out your garbage with confidence that it will be picked up, or for that matter, getting a birthday card in the mail.
Sigh. Critical thinking skills are obviously not our strong suit in this country, at least not for large numbers of us.

It is now up to Waukesha and Milwaukee. I am rooting for Milwaukee.

That’s it. It’s taking so long because she can’t find the reboot button on the typewriter.

thank you keeper of the universe!!!!

The GOP have a lock on 3 -Sen. Robert Cowles defeated challenger Nancy Nusbaum (Brown County executive and a former mayor of De Pere), Sheila Harsdorf defeated Democrat Shelly Moore, an Ellsworth teacher; and Luther Olsen defeated Democratic state Rep. Fred Clark.

Even we we pull out the last 3 wins (unlikely as only one is called for the Dem) , next week two other Democratic incumbents face recalls — Sens. Robert Wirch of Pleasant Prairie and Jim Holperin of Conover.

And the GOP pointed out how they control with the prior new ID law and voting difficulties, as well as with Walker today signing into law a new Republican-drawn legislative redistricting maps that could mute any Democratic gains after next year’s elections.

Maybe you should refresh?

Waukesha holding back ten precincts, Milwaukee holding back twelve.

Well, they have a little checkie poo next to King’s name. refresh your forkin’ computer, dude.

Just reported to the management.

Ha!

Did they have a choice?

Yes, there is always a choice. THAT is what drives me nutty about this learned helplessness among liberals and Democrats. After that mess of a Supreme Court election and knowing this was going to be one of the critical races tonight, Democrats should have done whatever they needed to do to ensure that shit never happens again. I don’t know what options there were because I don’t know the laws, but I do know this……

If the current situation isn’t working to your favor, you do what you have to do to change things. You hire lawyers. You make such a big stink and prolonged stink that no one can ignore it. And if the other sides paints you as a nut, you make a bigger stink and hire more and smarter lawyers. F**king hell! Republicans know how to do this. They take a bone and DO NOT let go until they get their way. They find cracks in the rules and twist them to suit Republican goas. Why is it that when it’s SO important, all Democrats can do is shrug shoulder to say ‘what choice do we have?’

okay it was a troll,SD was right

sad, isn’t it? we need to send her to remedial abacus classes.

Yay Jessica!

Yay Wisconsin!

im going to bed,this is nerve racking…sweet dreams puppers

I wonder who she date raped to get her position? Had to black mail them with photos of them naked together post ruffie or somethin.

Such the attitude, Mary. You’re right, they now have a check mark by King. 1,200 votes – does that trigger a recount?

Oooh, I love these NYC firefighters come to help Wisconsin union-recall.
Wisconsin came to NY to Ground Zero, now they’re there for Wisconsin. “NY unions support Wisconsin unions.”

From DKos:

8:46 PM PT: Based on the Kloppenburg race, it looks like 95% of Waukesha votes and 50% of Ozaukee votes are still outstanding.

8:47 PM PT: We Are Wisconsin’s Kelly Steele tweets: “According to those on the ground, Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus will not report results for at least 1 hour.”

I’m going to bed. I’ve seen this movie before and know how it ends.

Nite. Wake to good news.

I wouldn’t think so cause it is 51%.

I don’t think AP would give them a checkmark if it was an automatic recount

Sigh. Yes, I hear you.

We really must focus on cleaning up election fraud – and I don’t mean “illegal” immigrants voting twice.

Democratic Senators Wirch and Holperin are targets of almost every advertising break in Green Bay market the last couple hours.

This is a fucking rerun. This is what happens when criminals who steal elections don’t go to jail.

Love living on the left coast. I get to stay up for everything.

Nickolaus freeking waits till all the other votes are posted so that she knows precisely what she has to report. Small enough to be credible, large enough to avoid a recount. Fuck me.

Agreed, it’s war. You do what’s necessary to survive. Nice guys finish last.

The results are hidden in a video game. Only those who can get to level 10 of Prince of Persia will find out who won Waukesha County!

Ed just said that Waukesha county will not be sending in more results for another hour. Gee, ya think they might be messy with the numbers?

Milwaukee should do the same. But alas, that side is a stickler for the rules.

yea. I was thinking the same thing.

Dayum..completely OT…this other Schulz talking to Ed reminds me of my first husband….if he had been a hunk. (hair, jawline look a lot like him)

In 1977, Philadelphia voted on a charter amendment that would have allowed Frank Rizzo (ex-police chief) to remain Mayor for Life. Vote was extremely close; many precincts held out their vote count for hours. I was a poll watcher in a North Philly precinct working for an independent good govt group (i.e., white liberals, law students, defense attorneys, etc.).

That was when I learned that it’s a reasonable working hypothesis that the vote count in any large city is corrupt on all sides and that votes will be held back as long as possible in order to attempt to determine the outcome (i.e., “adjust” the count to what is needed).

That’s a reasonable hypothesis for Waukesha (10 precincts held back) & Ozaukee (4 precincts held back), but it’s also a reasonable hypothesis for Milwaukee (12 held back).

I’m off. Thanks again, David.

ThikProgress tweets that Waukesha will have 9 of 10 reporting in 5 min.

chill. she’s been there forever. she earned it by reliably delivering votes for GOP candidates for decades.

Milwaukee hasn’t posted a change in awhile either.

That’s crazy, grassy noll, ufo talk. What-Ever.

And that’s how they get away with this shit. Far too many people fall innto that line of thinking. It’s just dismissed as conspiracy theory nonsense.

do they have poll watchers in Waukesha?

Won’t somebody stop this monster?

yes! the progressive hotness …

“we need democracy to call this race !”

Waukesha? how big is this city?
this is very obvious!

Waukesha is sand bagging their votes, to give the GOP a win

Ya think?

nope. They were suddenly not allowed. too scary.

Farmers Union, huh? Farmers didn’t look much like that when I was that age, either. Hunh.

Are you sure you mean poll watchers weren’t allowed? Or exit pollers. I have seen in several places that Waukesha wouldn’t allow exit polling. Not quite the same a s poll watchers, though.

I just shared an old story about an election in Philadelphia. Does it become “grassy knoll” talk because it was 34 years ago, or was there some other reason for that inane comment? Also take it easy @328. The whole point of my story is we got our own “monsters” in Milwaukee who got the situation under control.

At the risk of appearing a little dense, I don’t understand why everyone is focusing on the criminal from Waukesha.

As I understand it, at this point the Democrats have won two races and lost 3. The one pending race, Wisconsin Senate 8, doesn’t include Waukesha County — the district includes parts of Milwaukee, Ozaukee and Washington counties.

As of the moment, with 68 percent of the vote tabulated, Democratic challenger Sandra Pasch holds a narrow 51-49 lead over long-term incumbent Sandra Darling (raw votes: 23,804 v. 22, 693). I don’t know enough about the district to say if this bodes well or ill.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/127331193.html

They don’t. even. bother. to. seal. their. bags. in Waukesha. Poll watchers? Ha!

So, why didn’t the state supreme court race get challenged? Was the dem lady not up to it? Why was the Waukesha official not fired? And why are they so blatantly doing it again? I know. I know, cause they got away with it.

What I was asking was how can Think Progress be Tweeting anything factual if they are not watching at least some of the precincts in Waukesha? Where does Think Progress get its info if not from poll watchers?

You are right. I made a mistake.

We are all staring at this.

LOL

darling up by 52%

Milwaukee not reporting all yet.

I Predict that the Walker recall will come down to Waukesha County

Wisconsin has a problem, and it lives in Waukesha

But so is Milwaukee, to give us a win. Milwaukee is holding back 12 to Waukesha’s 10. She just dropped her pile for the gooper, produced an instant 4,000 vote plurality in her county for the GOP incumbent! Now we gotta hope Milwaukee can drop another 5K or 6K plurality for the Dem.

It was because ‘fixed elections’ is grassy noll talk in enough people’s minds that it never goes anywhere. Chillax, I’m not disagreeing with you. In fact i fully believe elections are rigged. Just not using my /s tag enouh apparently.

And she is a monster. I don’t have a problem with that assessment. I don’t think there are enough monsters on our side to counter. Most of us have values like cheating is wrong. It’s a shame that elections are in a state where some form of cheating is almost a requirement for victory.

Think Progress RT of @news3jessica

So, what is the possibility that Milwaukee will pull out 3,000 votes for Pasch?

Four counties in district 8- Washington, Ozaukee, Waukesha, Milwaukee

If the Dems take over the Senate and Wisconsin, they need to put some new people in Waukesha County

this is just bizarre, and crazy

yep

Milw. TV Reporter 5 minutes ago

Milwaukee County will have their final results in about 10 minutes.

Ah, thank you. Now I get it. If the Dems let Nickolaus steal another one, they deserve to lose.

You’re saying it’s a good chance? I hope so!

She just dropped her pile for the gooper, produced an instant 4,000 vote plurality in her county for the GOP incumbent!

anybody know anything about the demographics in that county?

Nate Silver predicts Pasch will be down by 1800 after Milwaukee.

Waukesha still held back one district

I think this time Ozaukee is going to be the one that pulls the rabbit out of the hat and holds votes till the end. That way Waukesha has deniability.

Based on the Supreme Court vote, the ratios are consistent. Heavily Republican county.

“BREAKING: Democratic Party of Wisconsin spokesman Graeme Zielinski calls a press conference and accuses Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus of “tampering” with votes for Menomonee Falls. He said she is “sitting on” the votes, and he will be back with more details.”

Take the heat off? Yeah, maybe so.

I’m shocked that Nicklaus would do such a thing.

is this true?

this is just crazy,

How does Kathy Nickolaus “CHEATER” keep doing this, without going to Jail

Does she have these votes on her laptop again?

This breaking item is posted on DKos

Based on the Supreme Court vote,…

thank you.

but I’m not necessarily inclined to accept that particular vote as a true indicator…

That’s what I’m sayin’ — we all gotta adjust to the fact that we are gonna be winning a lotta these tight races next year the old fashioned way, and not get a moral complex about it.

dammit. I hate Nate Silver now. Except …. 1800 votes? That’s all? Should be a piece of cake for Milwaukee to fix that minor oversight….

You are much more optimistic than I, sadly.

DKos reports Pasch (D)47 percent Darling (R) 52 percent. Still waiting for another 19 precincts to report. 12 of them in Milwaukee County.

You know it is possible that Nate could be wrong. Perish the thought.

Oh, I agree with you there!

Ozaukee dribbled out one more precinct, still holding back three. Milwaukee still sitting on those magic twelve. *g*

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/10/1005104/-Wisconsin-recall-liveblog-thread-#15?via=blog_1

the breaking news thing

Does Nate know Kathy?

Kathy is going to find herself in front of a Judge, base on what Rachel just reported.

Kathy has tampered with the votes?

“MADISON-Following is the statement of Democratic Party of Wisconsin Chair Mike Tate following evidence of election tampering in the 8th State Senate District race.

“The race to determine control of the Wisconsin Senate has fallen in the hands of the Waukesha County clerk, who has already distinguished herself as incompetent, if not worse. She is once more tampering with the results of a consequential election and in the next hours we will determine our next course of action. For now, Wisconsin should know that a dark cloud hangs over these important results.”

I was hoping for a stronger ending. Republicans aren’t worried about dark clouds hanging over elections, as long as they win.

Admittedly, I’m a filthy foreigner who has no respect for the multiple layers of American government, but the entire system of having election results dribbled out by county, as opposed to having them submitted blind to a central tabulator and declared when they’re all in, strikes me both as absurd and a recipe for gaming and corruption. Doesn’t matter who the county clerks are, or what party they represent: one election, one count, one declaration.

DDay tweets: Final haul in Milwaukee isn’t going to be enough for Pasch.

It could happen…

What a surprise. That press release was written days ago. Funny how he’s accusing the Waukesha folks of holding back votes when right now it’s Milwaukee that waits to be tallied.

I’m prayin’

This is gonna be brutal if Milwaukee can’t pull this out …. They need to crank out an overall plurality to overcome one more precinct in Waukesha and two more in Ozaukee.

it sounds like this thing is going to court?

It is standard for Waukesha to hold back votes. Remember the State Supreme Court election. Waukesha magically found votes on a private computer. Magic seems to play a big part in the oligarchy these days.

that’s gonna hurt ….

yet again the SHIT comes from Waukesha

call the lawyers, sounds like the DEMs have a deep throat

Kathy better lawyer up quick

Hello self-proclaimed filthy ferner (that’s what they call the foreigners in VA). BTW, and keep this on the DL, we all are filthy ferners. But you didn’t hear that from me.

What you suggest as optimal could also be gamed or corrupted.
This has little to do with being a ferner, and more to do with your naivete and assumptions that gaming and corruption are not present throughout the process. Although honestly, I like your world better. It does sound nice.

But your way could also be gamed and corrupted. To h=think otherwise is not to understand this “electoral” system.
BTW, they legalized bribery. Every politician is legally bribed. You see where I’m going with this.

Milwaukee should refuse to submit their votes until after Waukesha does.

Still not celebrating with your R friends?
I mean come on, what more do you folks want. Really.

You are absolutely correct! Welcome to America! Whadda country!

Northshore burbs, 4 stall garage mcmansions on the hill. If you were through there ten years ago, you might have seen it all coming.

I think they heard you, Mary.

Ozaukee and Waukesha probably have about 300 votes out. How long does that take to count. Really. A person could do it by hand if they had to.

Come on folks, I’m sorry but they will probably get the last one so it’s 4-2 for them.
Even if we get 3 they will just buy 1 or more so-called Ds.

Seriously, how much would you betray your country for?
And imagine you are a politician. 1 million? 5? 10?
These folks spend 10 million as loose change.

But they are not holding them back. They have fewer outstanding precincts than Milwaukee.

Gawd, the way this is going you would think we were in Louisiana.

I’m what you might call a multi-tasker.

Great, tambrshell. The world is grey.

They have two precincts left is all I am saying.

yes they should!

Milwaukee needs to go last

go get the lawyers,

I’m wearing out the F5 button on my keyboard.

oh…

shit.

Understood. How many does Milwaukee have left?

I’m sure you folks tell yourselves the world is grey as your rationalization.
But you’re talking RGB, not grey.

good one. hee hee. Louisiana but with freighters on the lake instead of paddlewheels on the river?

ah, the newly very richie rich. The nice people. The genteel people. Not the riffraff like school teachers and fire fighters.

Wait, are you referring to this supreme court vote?

A county clerk discovered 14,000 unrecorded votes, which just happened to turn the election for the man she once worked for.

on her forkin’ personal computer!

That’s the one!

Nope… the solution is the opposite, with results tallied and posted at the precinct level before being tabulated at central… your solution of central control of all tabulation means that when something goes wrong, whether by mischance or malfeasance, then the entire count is thrown off with precious little recourse or remedy.

Results should be hand-counted where paper is used and regardless of that should be posted at the precinct level before anything is transmitted or transported anywhere.

And that also puts a stop to the Waukesha-style bullshit.

If the Tweet from DDay and the whatever from Nate Silver are correct, then it’s possible (don’t shoot the messenger!), it’s possible that Milwaukee is holding back to give the Democrat time to compose a concession speech.

Is the progressive brand dying? Is this a precursor to 2012?

“Results should be hand-counted where paper is used and regardless of that should be posted at the precinct level before anything is transmitted or transported anywhere.”

Thank you. Also note that’s another benefit of exit polls. It’s another check in the system.
There are actually many ways to check. We just don’t do them here.

Why do you say that? All of these were republican districts and we got two maybe three of them. And the other side spent 30 million dollars.

“Is the progressive brand dying?”

WTF?
This got nothing to do with that.
No idea why you would even link the two.

30 million WE KNOW OF.
Walker’s election was the same.
They spent millions on his election.
And then they funneled millions more through the state GOP to skirt the law.

District 32 still has six precincts not reported in La Crosse County where the Democrat was already declared the winner (by AP). Other than La Crosse, all three of the other counties with reporting delays/problems are in District 8 (Milwaukee 12, Ozaukee 2, Waukesha 1). So the magical lady in Waukesha is not the only slowpoke in her District.

but how big are the districts in Milwaukee? bigger than the ones in East Jesus? (east jesus is a new orleans term. at least, that is where I learned it.)

I just invented some state supreme court vote totals on my personal computer, and they show totally different demographics for SD-08.

Right! The “Wisconsin 14″ has now expanded to at least the “Wisconsin 16!” Don’t forget that.

Maybe not, but the enthusiasm was supposed to be on the side that is losing 4 to 2. The losers were the teachers and other public servants who are largely progressives. The republican winners aren’t progressives.

this is a precursor to dems and gopers making sure they have county clerks who steal elections

remember these are GOP districts, not DEM district

Milwaukee and Madison voters are not in this game tonight

we are playing in the enemy’s back yard

DDay up above just called it for the GOP.

Night, all

In the Philly suburbs we called it “East Jpip.” Must pronounce all the consonants in “Jpip.” But no, redistricting and precinct drawing are done along similar rules to ensure roughly equal numbers in each type of voting division (plus or minus some statutory percentage, like 5%).

I understand now why you said what you did.
However, they are not largely progressive.
Simple, ask them. Most will say no.

Thank you R for the final count.
I will go ahead and ignore your obvious bias.

we can’t ignore the fact, that this is heading to court

you are reaching when you say, progressives failed here?

if someone is fixing the the books, progressives and conservatives both lose

As will I, yours

After all that’s happened, I find it hard to imagine how so many people could vote repug.

Maybe they didn’t. Just saying.

Rachel Maddow just can’t bring himself to call it for Darling, though.

The ultimate win is not going to happen for Democrats tonight, but the problem is when you enter into every fight with an all-or-nothing mentality, you’re always going to be disappointed. Two democrats won tonight. That’s two seats they didn’t have before tonight. No, it doesn’t give them the majority, but that was always going to be an uphill battle. And if you somehow thought Democrats were going to sweep all 6 seats, you’re not living in the real America, which is a more conservative than liberal.

I think Wisconsin should be grateful for what they got. Against unimaginable spending, this is really the best they could hope for. Now you have to hope the two Democrats hang on to their seats and that Republican Dale Schultz is a reasonable Republican who will vote occasionally with the Democrats.

I agree with you

The people of Wisconsin have a bigger problem, and it is located in Waukesha

I doubt if the people of Wisconsin will let Waukesha steal another election

this spells big trouble for Dems and Gopers in Wisconsin

Milwaukee and Madison can hold votes in general elections, and wipe out any vote counts from Waukesha

is this where politics in Wisconsin is heading?

Neither can the AP.

happy @422 is just wrong. DDay only said he had to quit and that the race “might” be called for the Gooper tonight. As of 12:57 am, all of Waukesha is finally reported, but Milwaukee still has twelve precincts out and Ozaukee still has two out.. The Dem is losing by 4,600 votes in all of District 8.

Question is, can Milwaukee match & beat that 4,600-vote plurality? (Plus whatever magical extra pops up from Ozaukee.)

don’t feed

Mary,

Thanks so much for your sticking through this with us Wisconsinites. Enjoying your perspective. I think the $30M figure is the estimated total spent by both sides combined.

you can’t ignore the fact that something bad must have happen Wakesha?

I agree the people Wisconsin had a great night

but
let us be real here, Waukesha keeps doing strange stuff

In a statewide election Walker get killed, because Milwaukee, Madison voters and clerk can out last Waukesha

Every election in Wisconsin can not come down to Waukesha?

So Waukesha runs 66% GOP and something is fishy. But Milwaukee runs 65% Dem and that is ok?

That’s my big question. How many votes are still outstanding?

you don’t want to play silly games with me.

Let us look at this way

We tell all Dem Clerks in Major USA cities to hold their vote totals back in 2012, OBAMA wins in a landslide.

CITIES go heavy DEM

Milwaukee can cover up a lot more votes than Waukesha

I think Dems and Gopers better look at this? We don’t want clerks around the USA picking Senators and presidents? Do we

Milwaukee already delivered an 8,500-vote plurality from the 39 precincts that did report. The really tough part is squeezing another 4,600-vote plurality out of the remaining 12 precincts. See how that gets harder as the unreported precincts dwindle?

Milwaukee is essentially being asked to crank out 13,000 more votes for the Dem than for the gooper when all is counted & reported. A 13,000-vote edge from just one county, when none of the other entire Districts had winning margins of that scale, whichever party won. That’s the kind of hopeless arithmetic that Nate Silver specializes in.

We don’t know what the turnout was, at least I have not seen any exit polling that would help estimate turnout. Whatever Nate Silver was using probably included historical turnout stats.

Ozaukee still has one district to report. Wanna bet that they come in after Milwaukee?

Unless there are more than about 14,000 votes in Milwaukee yet to be reported, it’s unlikely that the deems can take over the lead.

the issue is this?
if waukesha played with their votes

the clerk in milwaukee can play with theirs, and easily cover it up

the question at the end of day is this how dems and gopers want to win in Wisconsin?

Waukesha is the problem, Dems and Gopers know it,

Gopers do not want major USA cities copying Waukesha in 2012

Ozaukee just dribbled out one more precinct, 10 of 11 reported. Dem now behind by 5,000 votes in District 8. Can’t stand much more of this ….

How close does it have to be for a run off?

There’s no runoff. There can be a recount and the state pays for it if the margin is within 1% , I believe.

BREAKING: Democratic Party of Wisconsin spokesman Graeme Zielinski calls a press conference and accuses Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus of “tampering” with votes for Menomonee Falls. He said she is “sitting on” the votes, and he will be back with more details.”

it is not about votes now? wake up guy or gal

this is serious

you act like Dems will not cheat? cheating can go both ways?

who controls the big cities in swing states? Dems
Miami FL
Cleveland OH
Detroit MI
Philadelphia PA
Charlotte NC

all these cities can decide who wins in 2012. OBAMA wins

the Waukesha problem needs to be fixed

BREAKING. all precincts in Waukesha have reported. It’s Milwaukee that’s sitting on votes.

Gopers do not want major USA cities copying Waukesha in 2012

That’s why they constantly use racist & illegal vote-suppression & vote-caging techniques like Ehrlich’s campaign did in Maryland; his campaign consultant(s) were just convicted of election fraud for robo-calls to black voters in 2008 telling them that Obama had already won (which was not true at the time of the calls) so they had no need to come out & vote. Felony convictions, IIRC.

It’s their specialty. Check out New Jersey in 2000, 2004 and the last governor election.

in Minnesota it had to be within one-half of one percent of the total vote in the relevant district. Could be similar in Wisconsin.

you’re feeding it too much

AP calling it for Darling.

Rachel, the AP, are not declaring a winner here?

someone has something

Ed said this is going to go on for weeks? someone is talking

Wisconsin is the testing ground for 2012

Union Leadership and Progressives are watching the GOP play book here

I think the GOP better watch out, the guy in the WH is not calling the shots anymore, he is a trojan horse

Dems control all the major cities in 2012,
Dems clerks can determine who win in 2012

this Waukesha problem can go national, back fire on the GOP

major cities can sand bag their votes a lot easier than some small town

The last six finally came in in La Crosse County in District 32. So only District 8 is lacking a full count, and only Ozaukee (1 precinct) has not reported completely, besides the 12 precincts in Milwaukee.

I think some of those 12 mighta borrowed the Waukesha church lady’s old laptop & funky spreadsheet.

Here

I think it has to be petitioned. I don’t think it’s automatic. But i really don’t want to read through all that.

EDIT: For a recount not a runoff. I don’t think there are runoffs in WIS. Couldn’t find anything on the elections page

Ouch. (for AP calling it for the gooper, not for ruh’s link)

It has been called for Darling inspite of all the votes not being in.

Refuckingcount.

Honestly, what is Milwaukee waiting for?

Milwaukee…..39/51………18,579………..10,088
……………………….65%…………..35%

What is wrong with that picture? LaVerne & Shirley, don’t leave us hangin’

Not sayin it means anything but, I don’t understand why none of the vote totals have changed for a bit and now all of a sudden the AP decides to call it. Inside info?

It’s official, Wisconsin is a miserable shithole.

the 2012 elections are going to be a train wreck!!!

how many Waukesha’s are the GOP creating around the USA

the USA voting system is broken

to many Dems in Wisconsin are saying this is heading to court

it should not be like this

the USA is in serious trouble

They may know how many votes are outstanding and can do the math?

But they have the Super Bowl champs!

AP knows it going to court

the AP is getting out of dodge,

Rachel and ED know something neither called it? interesting

the lawyers are coming

But they couldn’t figure that out 10, 20, 30 minutes ago? Maybe they had to do the math longhand? And show their work.

Milwaukee may be getting orders from Madison, hold your votes out

All eyes on Waukesha again

Remember Waukesha sunk the Judge in Over Time

Milwauke may sink Darling in Over Time

At 1:33 AM, Milwaukee finally is in, 50 of 51 reporting. It could only crank out a total plurality for Pasch of 8,600 votes. Jeebus. That’s the margin they had for her two hours ago. Thanks a lot, Milwaukee.

Dayamn. All in but one in Milwaukee and still 5k deficit. Hard to blame that entirely on Waukesha cheating.

Ho-hum, another day, another dodgy election, workers get kicked in the teeth…

Milwaukee finally in and it looks like new votes split evenly between R and D. Something wrong with that picture.

Why?

Waukesha may have had help

Come 2012, Philadelphia, Miami, Cleveland, report their votes totals at 2am what are you going to say, all go HEAVY DEM

Waukesha
Ozaukee, can’t wait until 2am to turn in their votes, come on people! this looks and smells bad

Maybe….our monsters in Milwaukee… also work for the rich? Another Judas like Obama?

Well, time for bed, even in the Pacific time zone.

Houston we have a BIG PROBLEM

the USA voting system is a complete JOKE

Sorry, firepups. Chalk this one up to rolling with the punches. Extremely effective grass roots GOTV fell short in one District. Many more districts to fight in, many more lunatics to root out.

Well because the numbers just don’t add up. Waukesha and Ozaukee are heavily GOP so they should win by a lot. I’m sure they steal votes, but 5k votes in where only 15-20k people vote? Why are we always looking “over there” when we have our own people with their hands in our back pocket? Why were the first 39 precincts in Milwaukee 63-37 but then the last group were 50-50?

Would you please elaborate a bit, I live here with neighbors who happen to be Republicans, though grossly ill informed, they’re trying to raise families themselves, but, they are also volunteer firefighters, volunteers at the senior center and at a few other places along those lines.

We are pretty evenly split politically, we just happen to have a half-dozen or so assholes making the decisions on state policy.

Yes, and yes to ruh @472. Plurality in Milwaukee for the Democrat did not budge from approx. 8,500 produced by the first 39 precincts. Plurality did not increase even with 11 additional precincts reporting. (One still out in Milwaukee, one still out in Ozaukee.)

G’night pups.

the vote counts are not really the issue here

the issue is how the vote counts come in

to steal an election, you always make sure the big city counts come in last, so they can carry you to the finish line

Waukesha is not a big city? but it acts like one, every election which is just crazy

Wisconsin has major voting issue!!!! to say the least

In 2012 is Wisconsin going to report their voting totals on friday? How long will it take them to count votes in 2012?

Do we really want Clerks picking who win and lose

For example I am Dem clerk in MIAMI, I look at Kathy from Waukesha, and I say, I can do better than her, I can pick the USA president, because I control hundred thousand florida votes?are we going here? yes or no

it is 2am people, this vote count should have been over at 11:30

Golly gee, that sounds so very wonderful, 1000 points of light and all that, I take it back.

Quit acting like a turd. These people worked very hard for a long time. They did the impossible and won two seat in Republican areas. Some of the people on this thread worked hard.

Rachel is a woman, Arschloch.

Step off your high horse and name-calling. So sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities, just trying to have a bit of fun at the expense of the Wisconsin idiots who just gave the Republicans a second mandate.

Would it assuage your maudlin earnestness to say my homestate is a shithole named Texas?

That’s it, I give up. Wisconsin (my state of birth) was the last chance of stopping the Kochroaches and the Teacrazies and so forth.

I am hereby withdrawing my participation in electoral politcs and commentary.

It’s all over.

That’s just what the Koch Bros., Karl Rove, and the rest of the corporate plutocracy want you to do!

Truth be told, nothing we do as a sliver of the population is going to make a difference. The Republicans can frame the story much better than we can. Look at Obama, he is absolutely incapable of presenting any situation in a sense that shows the Republicans and their policies for what they are. He is constantly trying to compromise and say “It’s not all their fault.. we are both to blame.. blah blah blah”

The fact of the matter, until austerity hits, no one will do anything. It is still dreamland in America and nothing you nor I say will wake the people up. As unimpressive as Carter was, he tried to start that dialogue in regards to oil and he consequently got angry with him for not lying to us.

The point of the matter is that until all the graybeards and silver hairs are unable to make ends meet and Medicare and Social Security is gutted, people will ignore the truth that is starring them in the face.

People only change when it is absolutely necessary. They only change when they have no alternative to turn to.

They’d rather believe “the nice young men in the business suit” than anything you nor I say.

We are screwed until the people are in pain. No one will listen and no one is going to lift a damn finger.

It is sad, but it’s true. “You mean you want me to turn off the TV and not watch [insert idiotic cheap television show here] and pay attention to your BORING politics?”

Until the people are absolutely unable to make ends meet, and that means the old people, because frankly they hold up so much of our nation’s progress, will we be able to get anything done.

Until the old and idiotic poor in flyover country feel the pain, nothing is going to happen.

Talked to a hispanic american yesterday. He’s ardently prolife. I don’t see Democrats increasing in strength with the rising hispanic population and brainless seniors (yes, I’m a senior). There’s no cure for stupid, and there doesn’t seem to be one for obama either, or Ried et.al.

I was totally shocked at the outcome of these recall elections, having been there when the wave hit. It bodes ill for all of us hoping for a different outcome next year. Whatever happened in terms of voter fraud and disenfranchisement, one of the strongest locations to send the message that what’s happening in this country is in total disregard of what the majority wants did not deliver on the threat. Walker and his minions will be safe for the foreseeable future, just like Cantor, Ryan and the rest will be safe for the foreseeable future. When disapproval of Congress is at 82% and 55% of voters asked would re-elect their Congresscritter, we’re in for the long haul for the destruction of the USA.

My lack of faith in humanity has been restored.