I think a really underrated factor in why Democrats in Wisconsin came up just short of winning back the state Senate is because of that extra month on the schedule forced by the “spoiler candidates” put forward by state Republicans. The extra month did not only give Senate incumbents like Alberta Darling and Luther Olsen extra time to campaign and fundraise. It put the elections one more month removed from the outrage across Wisconsin over the theft of collective bargaining rights. Feelings have a way of fading gradually over time. And so an election in July may have had a different feel than an election in August.
That’s what I think is at work with these new numbers in Wisconsin on a potential recall of Governor Scott Walker:
Public sentiment in Wisconsin is moving against a recall of Scott Walker. Walker though remains very unpopular and if Russ Feingold chose to run against him in a recall election he would find himself in deep trouble.
50% of Wisconsin voters generally oppose a recall of Walker, compared to 47% in favor. Those numbers are flipped from our last statewide poll, in May, which found 50% generally in support of a recall and 47% in opposition. The overall switch comes because independents have moved from slightly in favor of removing Walker from office (50/47) to slightly opposed (46/50) and because 94% of Republicans now oppose recalling Walker, up from 89% on the last poll.
Walker’s polling numbers are still bad, and public opinion doesn’t necessarily play a huge role in the petition gathering process. But this will continue to degrade over time, and that will play into Walker’s narrative, which he pushed out right after last week’s results, that the public is tired of recalls and wants everyone to work together (right after Walker implements the entire right-wing agenda, of course). People wouldn’t just be voting in an election between two candidates, but on whether or not to use the extraordinary procedure of a mid-term recall. In the other recall races in Wisconsin, the incumbents got late support, perhaps for this reason.
There is one man in Wisconsin who can upset this dynamic, however, and bring vitality and energy to a recall. His name is Russ Feingold.
Russ Feingold would lead him 52-45 in a recall at this stage, taking independents by a 53-43 margin. Despite his defeat last year in an election marked by very low Democratic turnout, Feingold remains decently popular in the state with a 49/43 favorability rating.
Democrats may be dependent on a Feingold candidacy to win though. In May Tom Barrett led Walker 50-43 in a hypothetical rematch of their contest last fall, but now Barrett’s advantage is only 48-47. Given the way sentiment has moved against recall in the closing days of these elections I don’t think Barrett would beat Walker if he started with only a one point lead. And Walker already has the advantage over two other Democrats that have been mentioned as potential candidates- 47-44 over former Congressman David Obey and 46-43 over sitting Congressman Ron Kind.
Obviously other factors could come into play. But right now, if Wisconsin Democrats want to get rid of Scott Walker, they need to persuade Feingold that he take up the challenge.




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Who cares? Phonygold sold out in DC, he’ll sell out in Madison. Typical Dem: all talk, no spine.
I think he’s one of the good ones; I’m not a Dem anymore, but I’d like to see him run.
Too bad he refused to stand up against the HCR sell-out, he might’ve offered the biggest challenge to Obama! Shameful, just shameful.
RUN RUSS RUN!
It is a shame how obama threw Feindgold under the bus. Russ tried to fight for a meaningful public option, obama negotiated it away in a backroom deal before the dialog began.
Russ tried to take real progressive stands, but was undermined by WH and left hanging for it.
Instead of passing an insurance industry bail out, obama could have made HEALTH CARE REFORM the issue of they day in 2010. His sham proposal kicked the can down the road until 2014 anyhow.
Instead, Russ got left dangling in the breeze and dem leaders tried to scam the nation into believing we got a Christmas gift in 2009 when what we got was a promise for for coal in 2014.
He did stand up, but was powerless and obama sold him out.
As governor, Feingold wouldn’t be subject to the same pressures he was subject to as senator. I don’t know what that institution does to good people but I know that Feingold, and Franken too, went into the Senate as stand-up Progressives. What happened next is anyone’s guess. I do remember, though, that Feingold cast the only vote in the senate against the Patriot Act. For that alone, I give him props.
And would Feingold be an upgrade over Walker? Uh, well, yeah. He would.
What are you talking about!
One thing fascism can always count on; American people have the attention spans of gnats.
Waking up slaves in the Land of the Free
Troll time
Yes and 0 and crew knifed him every time they could. I might be wrong but didn’t 0 campaign for olli snowe and not Russ?
The only one…yep, that gets one’s attention….he should always be proud for recognizing that true abomination….
Joan of Arc might have done something like this just for principle.
But otherwise, why would any former US Senator run for Gov of any state?
That’s just an easy comeback.
Do you like to be called a name when someone disagrees with you?
Calling someone a troll is just a cheap, easy shot. But, go ahead.
Make Firedoglake a cheapshot, loser site.
Go ahead.
How’s your humanity going today?
That explains why polls have now flipped with more people in WI against a Walker recall when not too long ago, more people were for it. It takes a lot of energy to stay with a recall movement. People just don’t seem to have it these days.
If he runs I will buy all kinds of good Russ stuff from the FDL store and FDL could use the huge profits for its own ad campaign. Especially if the stuff was made in the USA (FDL jobs program). Trouble is I can’t seem to find the store. Must be around the next corner. Maybe a power outage and the flashing neon lights went out. Sure want to buy some original FDL stuff to help carry on the the fight.
Obama may have stabbed him in the back and what not… but Russ still voted for it didn’t he? Could he have not fillibustered it? I think that’s what other commenters are talking about when they say all talk and no bark/spine/etc.
It’s the same thing Kucinich did, the same thing Sanders did… etc etc etc. The Dems have not stood up for the principles they espouse except when they are on teevee. Then they go and vote for it anyway.
Edit: That being said I still have hope for Russ. He would definitely be an improvement over the current regime.
And of course turning people off from politics is what Republicans love, because their base turns out no matter what — which is what happened in 2010. Their base turned out, in greater numbers than ours, and indies stayed home.
And you are exactly right Phoenix Women. But right now there is no one to go to the polls for. The Repubs get in….we get hurt. Obama gets in…we get hurt. Our goal has to be getting a new party with a new candidates to run in all races. This can be done through Labor……with their organization and money it can be done.
Not going to let people that don’t know russ nor his district spread falsehoods on a national blog. He was one of the only dems that tried to hold obama accountable for the healthcare plan he ran on in 2008.
You may not want the truth, but the truth about Feingold is what this post was all about.
You are the troll, but I know this site can degenerate into threads of comments where each calls the one above a troll – not as bad as atrios, but often ridiculus.
You obviously are not from WI and know nothing but the propaganda you read elsewhere.
should have been a reply to kasandra, the troll
think you’re right. know O did not campaign for my man Russ.
That is a flat out lie – by definition you are a troll, but it appears some “old schoolers” here have already identified you as such.
Thanks for showing that the other you mention is a troll, but usually this site is much better than this.
He threw “your man” under the bus, yet he campaigned for some blue dogs even when they had progressive primary challengers.
Be great if they could sell the muffins and goodies christie used to blog about on Sunday mornings back when the site was new.
While I know what you are saying, it wouldn’t have mattered, could never have been sustained, and by that point – he had fully been thrown under the bus.
Russ tried to hold obama to the plan he ran on and said he expected to be held accountable for and obama/dem leadership yanked rug out from under him.
If Russ tries and wins thius could really set him up very well for a 2016 shot; unless Obama wins 2012 and has so totally fucked the Democratic Party by then that he would have to run as an Independent. Also very feasible. I hope Russ takes on Walker and perhaps positions himself for 2016. Assuming there is a country left.
Gov.Andrew Cuomo of NY will be the Democratic candidate for President in 2016.You saw it here first.And all the Obama haters on this site make me sick.Maybe you yokels will be happy when Pres.Perry/Romney appoints a Supreme Court Justice to replace cancer stricken Ruth Bader Ginsburg who will be the 5th vote to overturn Roe v.Wade.
Huh? Didn’t Feingold vote FOR that Bill you’re so disdainful of?
I’m sorry you’re sick, I hope you can afford it with O’care?
I believe he is a very decent man, but I wish, like Alan Grayson, he had a killer instinct. At least Alan has a sharp tongue, which I happen to love.I would have loved a person like Feingold as our pres. but I don’t think he has the intestinal fortitude to duke it out with scum in Washington. Walker is another piece of garbage, but you can be sure Republicans will pull out all the stops to sink Feingold. He needs to toughen up. This is the problem, a good person cannot be a politician in this country unless they are corrupt, but with a conviction that they are doing public service, while lining their pockets at public trough.
Grayson has killer instinct but he also lost pretty badly. I applaud him for having the courage of his convictions but we have to be honest and realize that this doesn’t always mean you’re rewarded by voters. The greatest irony was that the guy who beat him couldn’t be more different from Grayson in his political beliefs if he tried.
As for Feingold, he could possibly pull it off, but that assumes that by the time the recall actually happens the polls are what they are today. If it turns out to be too close to call by that time then the conservative money could put Walker over the top. There’s also the issue of Herb Kohl’s seat. They’ve already got one tea party US Senator, so I wonder if limited resources should be spent on a Walker recall or protecting a Democratic Senate seat and various Democratic congressional districts.
Oh, the recall will happen whether or not the traditional Dem. party wants it to or not. This whole bullshit about waiting for the 2012 pres. election to take place the recall is a red herring as i know it as a fact that more true progressive dems in wisconsin would make a special effort to vote Feingold in (and walker out) then would make any effort to keep O BUM ME in office for another term. If it were not for supreme court appointees i doubt Obama could even get a majority of progressive dems at this point. Russ against scottie boy would be the dream govenor race and then I think Russ become a front runner (no not Hillary) in 2016.
Believe Wisconsin will start Walker recall effort in November of this year so that the completed effort can be turned in on the very first day possible to get that bum out the soonest possible. If Republican tricks get that recall set to match up with the republican presidential primary some how then we will pull out a republican trick and run a phantom recall primary against russ by a candidate who will all but come out and say don’t vote for me just to make sure the govenor recall election has its own space.
By the way totally belive BO should be primaried (Howard Dean?) and think the challenger would win a few primaries forcing Obama to move at least to the left of Nixon or Rockefeller. Trojan horse BO our man from Wall Street.
Feingold was the only senator who voted against the Patriot Act, he opposed the Iraq war from the start, and he introduced a bill that would freeze congressional pay and end automatic cost-of-living increases back in ’01.
Hardly the record of a spineless sellout.
Sen. Feingold is the one of the very few honest ones in Senate and Congress after I followed congressional news for last few years and who holds our constitution in the highest esteem. Except for HCR bill I always saw him voting for the right side or doing the right thing whenever I followed the bill progress. He will provide good governance for Wisconsin if he chooses to run in my opinion.
GO RUSS GO I couldn’t agree more for more reasons than any mentioned.
It was no accident Bush was elected with his brother as governor of Florida and the state’s voting apparatus in his hands. Look at what party now holds the governor’s office in Florida, Ohio, Texas aaaaand Wisconsin.
I suggest the Democratic party wake up. Running and backing Russ in a recall would be a first step.