Kevin Drum has a very important piece that shows us the predicament of the oil-fueled society we’ve constructed over the past several years. The story is basically this. Oil production is static, if not falling, and emerging markets are increasing and broadening their wealth, leading more and more Chinese and Indians and Indonesians and Brazilians to desire a higher standard of living. Invariably this means oil demand goes up. Therefore, when global GDP growth increases, demand for oil and then the price of oil increases. And around the world, but especially in a country like ours that’s extremely dependent on oil, this creates a price shock and a reduction in growth. The political cartoon of this would be a man named “economic growth” jumping to the ceiling and consistently hitting his head on “the oil supply.” So we’re in a constant cycle of low growth and stable oil prices, followed by higher growth and oil shocks, which knocks the economy back to lower growth.
The effect this has on the economy is probably greater than even most pessimists realize. James Hamilton, a University of California-San Diego economics professor who’s studied the economics of oil demand deeply, points out that 10 of the 11 recessions in the United States since World War II have been preceded by an increase in oil prices—and even small increases in oil prices can have a surprisingly big impact on economic growth. In a recent update of a model he originally published in 2003, he estimates that an oil price spike of 10 percent over its previous high produces a GDP decline of 1.4 percentage points one year later. To put this into real-world terms, his model suggests that the huge run-up in oil prices between 2007 and 2008, when prices nearly doubled, explains most of the Great Recession that followed. And he forecasts that the Libyan price spike early this year, which came on top of a 9 percent increase the previous quarter, will reduce GDP by an estimated 2.4 percentage points by the end of 2011. And the Libyan price spike was pretty modest.
It’s a serious policy dilemma, and the answer is manifestly not to drill for more oil, or to facilitate the strip mining of tar sands in Canada with a giant pipeline. Two reasons: one, you run into another bound there, namely the increasing global temperatures, which cause more frequent and more destructive natural disasters. And if you think they have no impact on growth, look at what the Japanese tsunami did to the global supply chain. I am not saying that the Japanese earthquake was caused by global warming, only that natural disasters carry an enormous amount of economic destructive capability. The fact that Hurricane Irene will take oil refineries offline temporarily and probably in itself cause a price spike should be more than enough evidence of that. (And yes, you can make a case for climate change in the growth and destructive power of a hurricane like Irene).
Number two, there simply isn’t enough oil available outside of what’s already being produced to meaningfully change this dynamic. World oil production is simply near its ceiling, and growth-causing demand that outstrips this production causes price shocks. The production options left are either horribly dirty like the tar sands, facilitating more climate change, or horribly dangerous like deepwater drilling, and prone to ongoing environmental disasters that have their own economic impact.
The only option, then, though a gradual and at times a painful one, is to end the oil economy. That means curtailing suburban sprawl that spews all kinds of toxicity into the atmosphere. It means embracing mass transit and bike lanes and intercity rail and other eco-friendly means of transporting ourselves. It means supporting the new high fuel-efficiency standards for a newly resurgent auto industry, including the rapid deployment of electric cars with innovative battery technology. It means innovating our way out of fossil fuel dependence through renewable energy, and funding as much research as possible to get us there. Billions of dollars spent on how to make a blade of grass an energy source instead of a drop of oil is probably the best money you can possibly spend right now. The stimulus actually funded some of this, but not nearly enough. Because there’s no other way around the vicious circle of oil, where economic growth is met by price spikes and a reduction of that growth.
Without such a transformation, we are consigned to no meaningful growth in perpetuity, and oil recession after oil recession.




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“The only option, then, though a gradual and at times a painful one, is to end the oil economy. “; yup; now try and get a politician to say that.
Sure, but the transition away from the oil economy is going to take a long time, and most people simply aren’t interested in giving up their cars, using mass transit and riding bicycles. There are other alternatives, such as nuclear and ethanol.
nuclear — right, Fukushima, let’s go there. Oh wait, we can’t.
Right, but I think they are still using nuclear, and I bet they will go back to using more nuclear, because they don’t have much of a choice, unless they just want to turn the clock back and stop using electricity; and I doubt that’ll happen.
Japan will look through the gloom of pollution and the glow
of Fukoshima and remember that they are the Land of the Rising Sun – SOLAR.
Obama could have very easily set upon a path to Green Energy had he wanted to do so. And he could have done it the Republican Way (which he evidently loves) – With Tax Cuts.
Solar Energy Tax Credits for Home Solar Water Heating Installations. A significant tax credit would inspire millions of property owners to install solar water heating systems.
When that didn’t happen, we had a clue that Obama was totally in the grip of Big Oil. Add to that his Clean Coal, nukes and now fracking and oil sands.
If we don’t poison ourselves and the environment irrevocably first, we are going to run out of oil. Period. Then we’ll break the vicious cycle and if human history is any indication, that’s exactly what it’s going to take.
Yep. His “destroy the environment to prove I’m bipartisan” approach is one of my biggest regrets for donating to him and volunteering for him in 2008.
Photovoltaics are becoming better and more efficient all the time. That’s probably not the whole answer but could be a big part of it. If all roofs had solar panels, especially the more efficient and durable flexible ones, that would save an enormous amount of fuel and prevent tons and tons of carbon being released daily.
Humans just refuse to learn. So few people practice critical thinking.
Sadly that’s true. If they learned, we wouldn’t be trying the wholly disproven and discredited Hoover style “austerity will improve the economy” approach.
The profiteers insist on monopolizing all of the rents. They want a big cut if they are not installing solar panels, then they insist on big fees for having a wire to your house from the electric companies. They don’t want everyday consumers to stop burning oil and to start burning another fuel like firewood, unless they can monopolize the rents from firewood. And they will be happy to talk ‘green’ all day long as long as they get your ‘rent’ at the end of the day. At this point in time, the profiteers have made solar installations expensive and inconvenient. On the other hand construction of air tight super insulated prefabricated homes has excelled in development. Some progress has been made there.
Oh, my. The whole Tar Sands pipeline is such an extreme example of prehistoric planning. It’s nuts! Inviting such trouble.
I live in a newer prefab house and it is indeed very energy efficient. It’s certainly not just a trailer.
RTP=Right to Plunder.
That’s what Libyan war is all about.
Not only oil, but water. Gaddafi put in $25 billion water system (tapping tremendous reservoir under the desert) without any help from any western country or IMF, and that’s going to be sold off to French water companies & privatized for pennies on the dollar.
Link discusses both oil & water in Libya.
For those of us who hold the Earth sacred (not just a gift from a Creator that we are supposed to take care of and/or use up), just the destructive installation of the pipeline itself is beyond sinful. Even before the environmental and economic disasters begin to unfold.
If you want another stomach turner, check the recent National Geographic article on the rarely seen “spirit bears”. The pipeline is scheduled to slash its way through their habitat, along with other horrific events in its path.
Anyone who believes the oil industry does not leave a footprint has never even visited an established oil well.
I can’t think of anything more important right now than the work of Jane and company to try to stop that fucking pipe.
Asking for it, begging for it. It’s extremely frustrating. Next they’ll be pumping out the La Brea tar pits….
The sprawl is the proximate culprit. Although it began in the 1950s, the exponential growth of the suburbs since then means that the real damage has occurred in the last 30 years. There is real path-dependence here. The low gas prices of the late 80s and 90s led people to think they were saving money by moving further out, and commuting to work, not just to the city centers but to other suburbs. Once the road and distribution systems were adaptedto that style of life, the costs of reverting to a more energy (and mental health) efficient locational pattern became insuperable. We are locked in to an sustainable locational pattern. The US has put itself into a catastrophic and in my view an inextricable hole. Along with television, the worst thing that ever happened to 20th-century society was the democratization of the automobile.
I’m a city mouse. I do almost all my shopping on foot at the end of the afternoon, and use our car for weekend travel to our country house. To me the suburbs are a wasteland, and for the life of me I don’t understand why people think grass lawns are particularly good for children as compared to city parks, zoos, museums and music lessons. The fixed costs of having to have two to three cars, the fixed commute, the time lost finding a parking space in malls (not to mention the traffic jams) are enormous. No wonder Americans think they are poor when the statistics say that on an international scale they are rich. What counts as output in GDP is actually input.
Life is habit-forming. The majority of Americans don’t know any other way to live. It’s really sad. Protecting the ‘American way of life’ now means protecting life in the automobile.
Ditto mountain top removal for coal in WVA.
w/o being rude, was it cost efficient or “expensive” for the square footage compared to stick built construction?
And, if people in LA were to get checks the way folks in Alaska do, Angelenos would say sure, pump away, as long as I get my 15 bucks. Short sighted selfishness.
Ditto any carbon based fuels.
Greed is such an ugly part of the human condition.
So true about the sites…mess, smell, really take up alot of space all around. Edit, Plus even old filling stations often cannot pass EPA inspections for re-use, zoning, etc.
We bought a 1500 square foot model, already on site for about one-forth of what a stick built would have cost. We could have bought one for 50k less, but it was older and didn’t have the double paned windows and other energy efficient stuff. I’ve compared our energy bills with people who have the older ones and there’s a huge difference.
Cost efficient. I know people who less than two years ago were comparing manufactured with site built and it breaks down to this: It’s more expensive to build a site built home, unless it’s part of a much larger subdivision, (i.e. a whole lot of homes by the same builder going up in the same area at the same time). In the end, they saved over a hundred grand on their manufactured home and while they used to be little better than double wide trailers, the technology has vastly, enormously improved.
My community and neighborhood are currently fighting a proposed strip mining project in the foothills above us. They want to take the rock out to truck it to cement making places. Right now we are waiting for the environmental impact report. I’ll go out there and lay down in front of the trucks before I let that happen.
It’s all about money, control, power. Which is why I included the oil & water in Libya link above. I saw someone on book-tv yesterday talking about Pickens participation in water control in OK or TX panhandle, I forget which.
The more essential the commodity is for human survival, the more the vultures want to control it and exploit it to profit them and impoverish the rest.
Carbon resources are just one specific example of the general principle.
Algae is one of the best possibilities for a “new” oil. it traps CO2 and creates oxygen. Put an algae farm downwind of a coal plant and youcan reduce the coal emissions in the air. There are some companies, large and small, involved. Including big oil which means to me that they’re wary of algae potential. One small company is Petroalgae.
http://www.originoil.com/about-algae/petroleum-alternatives.html
There was a big cement brouhaha in town of Hudson NY during Pataki administration. It didn’t come to lying in front of trucks, but it was hard fought and Pataki lost.
Yep. Good old “philanthropist” T. Boone, unable to get the federal government to buy into his all natural gas, (of which he controls a significant amount), energy scheme has now turned to control of water to further enrich himself. He’s nothing but a cattle baron living out of his time.
That is good information to know, especially for our young people who are in the home buying phase of life.
TX: some vast expanse. I don’t know if OK, also.
We are just at the beginning of this fight, but there are so many issues to worry about. Destablizing the hills, lowering of property values, traffic concerns, etc. I can’t imagine the city would allow this, but, I have been known to be naive before.
I don’t watch book-tv regularly anymore, so when I catch something, its thru channel surfing and I rarely remember the details as I come in during the middle & don’t get the complete story.
You can find some great information if you use the google. There are many kinds of homes, two story, cabins, guest houses. You might enjoy doing some research.
The only vision Obama has is what he sees in a rear view mirror.
Artificial boundaries aside, all of that area is the Llano Estacado or “Staked Plains” and control of water in one area means control of it all. Not just Texas and Oklahoma either but extending into northeastern New Mexico.
We’ve been an “oil economy” a lot longer than several years.
And the power corporations won’t stand for consumers to have their very own power supplies on their roofs.
Carter tried that and he’s been vilified for it ever since. the mega copse were so scared that they got Reagan in there and the rest is His-story.
I figure after Citizens United, America is done. that was the one, single thing that persuaded me we are turning into a tin-pot dictatorship.
Hey! Speaking of oil,take a look at THIS one about Perry.
It’s hysterical:
Texan Taxpayers Foot The Bill For Perry’s Presidential Run
There are even some Texans on the thread defending his “job creation”. They apparently don’;t much care about the destruction of their public skuuuls. Probably all home-skuuuled anyways.
I gotta go….later, you dogs, you ;^)
I think the talk about bike lanes is amusing also. I live where there are a number of bike lanes on very busy streets….find it so obnoxious. The riders are almost oblivious to traffic laws and mostly want to ride in large groups, so outta the lanes, and go as fast as possible. (Sorry to any bikers: what’s that song about the cowboys & the ranchers should be friends? Getting along is difficult. ;)
To this end to minimize the pain may I suggest government regulation? We have X amount of all electric and hybrid cars we should mandate that high vehicle use, high MPG jobs make them mandatory. Taxi Drivers, State Police who drive the freeways all day, anyone who keeps a record of how many miles they drive for their job for the IRS.
Or anyone who drives enough a year that making or letting them buy an Electric or hybrid car will do the most to reduce gas consumption.
We need a plan! We need to accept that the free market does not work.
Morning, everyone.
Knut, we were fortunate enough to experience your ‘city mouse’ living for a few years in Tulsa. We could bike or walk to museums, great restaurants and shopping, natural foods and farmer’s market, and the most wonderful park and gardening/teaching center.
It was in an area called “midtown”, not downtown, but midway between the city and suburbs. Close enough to ride a bike or have a short bus ride into town.
Tulsa treasured its wonderful early century homes, so we had a 1928 bungalow with original oak interior, never painted. I loved it so much, I never wanted to leave.
This gets me to my point (sorry for the rambling) that unless we had been moved by my husband’s work, we would never have been able to afford to pick up and move from a house in the suburbs to a more city-centric home.
We are going to have to look at some big social engineering in addition to energy engineering if we are going to make any headway in our energy struggles. It will take big thinking and big $$$, and I don’t see it happening.
James Lovelock talks about a “powered descent” from oil and coal. That is what I am desperate to see.
Yep: that happens to me alot on the car radio…hear something, then not the rest of it….
Unrestrained, cutthroat capitalism is an inherently short-sided approach to economic management. In fact, capitalism itself implies an absence of such management.
In short: you can’t have a long term approach to energy policy that works if all you have in your toolbox is capitalism.
But let’s not forget the people who park their automobiles in bike lanes. They eventually did away with the bike lanes along Shoal Creek Road because people used them as their parking lots. There have been problems on both sides of that issue…. Here in SA, the few bike lanes there are are mostly unused because people use them as passing and turning lanes.
They’ve redone the bike lanes big time….PS: I admit to bias.
Pipe the smoke directly through water a fan could do this fast enough so combustion is not effected in the plants boiler whether this added cost of energy makes sense I don’t have numbers for but if the smoke is trapped directly in water CO2 should not be a problem.
What to do with Mercury poison algae is a problem but it would be easier to handle and we could dump it into empty coal mines but this would cost money also.
Oh, in addition, most of us are so dependent on our for-profit healthcare, we don’t dare try anything as audacious as moving.
Me too, although there have been times where I’ve sat in the car, at the market or in the driveway at home for 10 or 15 minutes to hear the end of a story. People have asked What the hell were you doing in there? Ha.
Could it be that sustainable energy policy:
a) will be forced reactively on the US, not planned and developed,
b) will be planned and developed in places besides the US?
Turning really is a problem…Im surprised more bikers do not get hurt as they zip thru an intersection where cars are of course turning.
Yep…me, tooo. But not in this heat…
Haven’t seen the four letter word “jobs” in the article or comments on oil/economy.
There is a reason for that. It’s our fundamental quandary. Demand/consumption produces jobs. More demand/consumption further degrades the environment.
Our economic system requires the destruction of the environment to have employment.
You got an idea how to fix that?
Well, there is that. Me? I’m anxiously awaiting autumn, my favorite season.
Have they? Been a while since I lived there. I miss my home. :(
Even when you try to watch for them, sometimes they are so quick you don’t see. It is a matter of training, I think, to always assume a bike is nearby. I had a similar close call yesterday.
If we can learn to walk in a sea of cats while carrying a martini, surely we can do that ;-)
Creating wind and solar power technology and operations would create jobs too. No?
It really doesn’t have a lot to do with capitalism, which is why I used the word vulture above. Same thing happens/happened under monarchies & communism & all kinds of other forms of governmental organization. Which form it happens least in depends on how well regular people can organize to fight the PTB.
Venezuela’s proven oil reserves have exploded past Saudi Arabia in the annual statistical bulletin from OPEC.
Venezuela’s reserves reached 296.5 billion barrels, up 40.4% year-on-year and higher than Saudi Arabia’s 264.5 billion barrels. This number accepts controversial claims regarding the accessibility and quality of oil in the Orinoco Belt.
http://www.businessinsider.com/venezuela-officially-has-more-oil-than-saudi-arabia-2011-7
I assume once this oil is drilled Hugo will lead OPEC not are Saudi friends this will effect oil prices. Also even if this oil does come on line I don’t expect it to drop oil prices since oil wells in other parts of the world run dry all the time.
Canada Tar sands won’t run dry but they only make money if oil prices are high if we get back somehow to 30 a barrel for oil a level good for our economy to grow Canada oil sands will be losing money and shut down.
Given the amount of money some of it ours invested in Canada’s oil sands we can expect America to never allow that to happen even if we took Hugo’s oil away from him and ordered full production now.
If we can learn to walk in stiletto heels a sea of cats while carrying a martini, surely we can do that
The Bioenergy site. Excellent links to biofuel articles.
http://www.thebioenergysite.com/
Confession: I am so much more tolerant of cats….And until I had a really close call, I had not been aware of the biker problem. Scared me to death that I really could have hit someone….who is oblivious.
I have a bike riding story:
When I was in my early twenties, young, stupid but in extremely good shape, I was riding my bike to work, (out of necessity, not choice), when I got held up by the morning train coming from Galveston to Houston that was apparently running very late that day. The traffic was backed up forever but I rode right up to the very slow moving train and got off my bike and threw it onto a flat car that was going by and jumped up after it. I crossed the bed of the car and jumped down, got back on my bike and rode off, to a chorus of horns and a display of people flashing their headlights. Yeah, I could have died but it was extremely gratifying.
You are such a trip, Peg.
Yes look at all the jobs China is creating with Green power.
http://my.firedoglake.com/thingscomeundone/tag/rare-earth-minerals-government-bureaucracy/
Love it!
You in your stilettos, me in my flip flops. Cats of the world, beware!
You are more nuts that I was at that age. I also used to ride my bicycle to work, 5 or 6 miles along Mass. Ave. from Cambridge to Boston. I didn’t drive a car at the time so I didn’t realize how invisible bicycles are to car drivers & how little car drivers look for them. I rode right along parallel parked cars, never looking to see if a driver might be opening a car door for me to peddle right into & catapult over. It’s a miracle I lived thru it.
That is gutsy. You are the friend that my mother always feared I would have.
Yes, it’s a great neighborhood; but the bike lanes are wide, they’ve widened the street also….it seems to be a biker paradise and they ride in herds….You can tell…Ive had quite alot of time with this issue. My dau and SIL used to live here as well, and he is a serious biker. He is also a cautious and thoughtful young man…sometimes when I am so irritated it comes to mind that one of these guys could as well be my SIL. That helps some, and I know he would be obeying the laws and being cautious.
M; @ 63: That is a great story…were any of the folks cheering?
I don’t really have any. I’m mostly a barefoot kind of gal.
Opt me in for the fip-flops too. I own a pair of stilettos but they were more of a joke gift than something Lisa thought I’d find useful!
They were all cheering and honking their horns and flashing their lights at me. A couple of them rolled down their windows as a rolled past to congratulate me.
I have a really ugly bike story. My brother was wheelchair-bound after a brainstem infection. His balance was really impared, but he didn’t let anything stop him.
He worked with a bikeshop somewhere and they built a quad recumbent that gave him back his freedom.
It was not unusual for him to come back from a ride with cuts or bruises from objects thrown at him by passing cars.
They’ve widened Shoal Creek finally? they’d been working on that forever when I moved off of Bull Creek Road. It’s about time.
People do suck, yep.
Great…in your earlier post I thought they were “complaining”…
@73: Makes one weep; I am so sorry. Makes your brother a hero doesn’t it?
It does not look like DC will be allowed to subsidize green energy and other industry of the scale required until things get much much worse. And any of that does little or nothing for those out of work right now.
Stimulus that would create jobs right now means more of the same kinds of consumption, in the short run more burden on the environment, not less.
As if his life wasn’t hard enough. What’s the line? I love humanity; it’s people I can’t stand.
Oh, RevBev, he was. He really was.
Yep…And they had put all those little “islands” in…around the time I moved over here…then they had to take them out after realizing they were a very bad idea that didnt work and people hated….;)
Tar Sands use water, pumping oil out of old oil wells uses water to fill up the old wells, Fracking poisons water. T-Boone an oil man owns water, a crazy billionaire in Texas wants to build a free market nuclear waste storage place in Texas above a huge underground water deposit. Bush and the Rev Moon own a huge underground water deposit in South America.
Follow the money I think the oil and natural gas rich are buying or poisoning water in America to create a world where they can charge for water after the oil runs out.
They could be going green it only takes a year to put up windmills so a dollar spent there gets you returns on your investment much quicker than a new Natural gas plant. There are no pollution problems with wind like oil or wars in the middle east which if factored into the cost of oil make wind much cheaper.
There is always wind blowing somewhere so we can send windpower to places with no wind from places with wind.
Also super capacitors are getting cheaper and can store tons of power.
Definitely does in my book.
OmAli August 28th, 2011 at 8:22 am
You speak of him in the past tense. I hope he didn’t die on his quad bike?
Oh, dear. Let’s lift a toast to the real heroes.
Yeah. But I can think of really great times when people would stop to admire the bike and talk about the design and stuff. He felt dehumanized in his wheelchair, but like a whole person in his bike.
I remember those awful islands. I kept thanking myself for refusing to drink and drive. Those things were a really bad idea. People parked in the bike lanes so “let’s build little islands in the road and plant trees in them…”. That one should win the stupid idea of the year award for 2003.
Yes….life can be so hard in ways we really don’t realize…thanks again for telling us. I do believe stories like that make us want to be better people….Those folks should be so ashamed….
No. You really can’t write a worse script. He fought back from the brainstem problem and kind of rebuilt his life. Then found out he had melanoma and lived another 5 years.
Still with courage and dignity and a wicked, wicked sense of fun.
Now we know why you are getting promotions every day. Got a hangup in production? Go see Margaret.
((RevBev))
The politics is impossible agreed but thats because Obama surrenders to the GOP without a fight everytime.
Wind turbines take a year to put up.
As far as consumer spending goes end both wars now use the money to create green jobs get everyone to work building electric or hybrid cars that will be powered by sun and wind and we won’t need to fight oil wars.
You know what I hate?? Traffic circles!!!
Didn’t Boone also make some big wind investment? Ive seen something that I have mostly forgotten….;)
Create enough Green jobs now 6 months later consumer spending will rise but to do that we need a President who believes FDR was right not Helicopter Ben’s save the banks let everyone else hang policy.
Things, with extensive wind turbines and solar arrays, will we need to rebuild our energy grid (I don’t really know what I’m talking about) or distribution system?
All of it is good, though, because it means design and construction, and that means jobs, jobs, jobs.
Can you even think what all that building and rebuilding cost? I have even forgotten what the purpose was…speed control, I think.
There used to be some traffic circles outside the entrances for the Washburn Tunnel, (in Pasadena, Texas), that would drive me nuts. They were these elaborate sweeping arcs that served absolutely no purpose.
Thanks…;)
Sort of on topic here. A line from a book I just finished reading.
That girl needed a horse. Fixed it for her.
Yes nobody ever said T-Boone wasn’t smart he knows oil is limited and knows better than the WH what the future is.
But think of it this way as Green power gets used more costs will go down and everyone will have solar panels on their homes and every farmer will have at least one windmill.
In order to keep drilling companies working which oil men are invested in and oil distribution pipelines going I think they plan to poison Texas Water and a few other state’s water then use those pipes to transport water instead of oil.
Nope. Like I said, I lived there from 1998 till around 2005 and they put in the islands because some bike riders got hit while having to ride out into traffic because cars were parked in the bike lane. Now I agree that a lot of them ride in bunches, especially along Shoal Creek and ride out into the lanes even when they are free of cars. I don’t know the circumstances beyond that but the only alternative to that route for them would have been Lamar. That would be suicide.
May I blog whore here a sec? Those who haven’t visited Glenn Smith’s Sunday morning posts at 9:30 am, might want to check it out today. He’s very compassionate and insightful.
Montreal has built bike lanes and has a public bike facility (Bixi) that a lot of our young professors use. I think biking in a city where cars rule is suicidal, and I wouldn’t touch one with a ten-foot pole. I biked when I was young, but there was a curve on the road to work that cars would cut, and I was scared shitless every time I biked through. After three months my courage gave out. Plus there are the potholes to contend with.
I don’t have anything against bikers or biking, but I’m not going to try it at my age. A few years ago I was sitting next to Kenneth Arrow at dinner. He bikes to his office at Stanford. He had a huge bruise on his face from an accident. You shouldn’t be biking even in Palo Alto at 85.
Nice.
I have a bright red recumbent trike with a trailer and flag, so I am certainly easy to see, but I still won’t bike busy roads and cheat and ride on the sidewalk whenever one is present.
Yes read my link China is doing a smart energy grid this is necessary to get the most out of green power Scarecrow has more information about the smart grid.
It means tons of jobs for decades if we replace all our power with green power. To replace all our cars with electric and hybrids that would mean more jobs.
Plus healthcare costs from pollution would drop. If we give loans to farmers to put up wind turbines they would not need federal cash every year to make a profit they would need ear muffs for their tractors though.
Healthcare savings from less pollution related disease, no more farm payments are hidden savings. Contrast that with the Iraq war’s cost which is hidden from the true cost of oil.
Crap I might have talked myself into another green energy diary nobody will read.
And now there are signs on parts of Lamar that say bikers can use full outside lane….inevitable I guess. So you have a pokey biker with a traffic back up behind him/her. It all really is a puzzle…I have to drive quite a bit for my work, so I am out at alot of different times of day. Obviously I see it as a problem with bikers, but I know it goes both ways. I also know when I first moved here one of my initial impressions was the bikers completely ignoring traffic laws….Then there was a tragedy of a young woman being killed somewhere around 360; I do not think they ever found the driver. I do not know the answer….but see 103. ;)PS: I think part of what drives the lcoal bike excitement is the glow of Lance Armstrong….all these wantabees.
Oh and Farmers should not get a penny unless they raise wages and give their workers overtime. Its time to end wage slave plantations big and small.
Not only yikes but fucking yikes!
I’m trying to think of the name of that church out on Lamar really near Shoal Creek… Is that the one you’re associated with?
I’ll check out your link, thanks! Sometimes it is hard to keep up with the diaries, but they are important, so thanks for taking the time and effort to do them.
No…and I cannot think of one on Lamar…There is a Methodist quite near on Burnet…
OmAli thanks:)
What a weird discussion…I knew I was irked, but really did not realize how annoying I find all of this….I guess it involves the threat/danger, etc + the disregard for traffic laws….who knows.
I think that was called “traffic calming”. They tried some of those schemes in our gentrified neighborhood but our frat house neighbors made it a point to think of ways to turn them into obstacle courses or launch ramps.
Nightmare. Stupid.
The only reason I remembered it is because we did their printing for them the last job I had in Austin.
That’s wasn’t their purpose in this case. See mine @101.
oops. Memo to self: be sure to read all previous comments. Margaret, in the Navy, were you ever at sea?
These post thread conversations are a really good way to get to know people.
O Dear, If I sit here long enough, it will be time for Caturday….;)
True, and I thought I saw all these comments, but I sure missed that one.
I’ve often thought it would be interesting to write a novel, where it is written as a blog.
Timely….Angela just wants to be all over me….OK. what else would I say?
She wuvs you.
Ive had that thought about trying to edit Caturday….obviously there is a large # of cat lovers….
Isn’t it nice?
Some years back I picked up a book titled “Autotopia” which seemed to be spot on as to what the automobile represented and brought about for 20th century humankind. A book that seems to be more spot on here in 2011.
Post WW2 as the 1950′s unspooled into the 1960′s some of the concepts for The World Of The Future orbited around atomic powered automobiles zooming over pylon supported ribbons of concrete amidst Futuramic Cities of Splendour.
It is highly doubtful there will be atomic powered automobiles in 2050.
Whatever the future is going to be it cannot be what the USA was doing post WW2. Levels of consumption and heedless/reckless consumerism at 1950s/1960s American rates are not going to be sustainable for a planet of nine billion humans in 2050.
It is certain that if Americans are not able or capable to get Americans into Congress and the WH who are superior in ways of thinking and doing than what we have managed since 1980 Americans will fail to get where we need to be by 2050. By 2075 By 2099.
Whether it can be done with ballots or will take torches and pitchforks remains to be seen. Many more these year 2000,2004 or 2008 style WH elections or the serial clusterfuckings Congressional elections have now become and it seems the better bets will go with the torches and pitchforks.
Good governance requires Vision. Leadership. Courage. Decency. Honesty.
Ronald Reagan was wrong. Government is not the problem. Feckless and corrupted government is the problem. Good government is a way and means to finding solutions,charting courses to take and stay on. For leveling the field of play between Rich and Not So Rich–Advantaged and Not Advantaged.
During this WH election season Barack Obama should be asked and required to rate himself for these qualities.
Barack Obama should admit his now obvious shortfall(s) and step down.
The shortfall of Barack Obama now seems to have gone just plain corrupt.
Yep. More than I would have liked.
I do work for the wind industry. The old line petro players are heavily involved. I am not sure if they are truly interested in developing the wind industry or want to be in position to strangle it the crib.
link for echan
http://ttbook.org/book/bees
it was on npr this am — tried to post on prev topic but nada
re energy: I’ve read that there is some military biofuel
And we want a pipeline through our country so Canada can ship their oil overseas because? The only thing we are getting is the chance for more pollution and leaks. If they want a pipeline for their oil let them go through their own country. It’s time for King Chaos to decide if he has any morals or is a total liar like his repub. buddies.
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