The Super Committee, what we’ve been calling Catfood Commission II, held its first meeting today. There wasn’t much on the agenda, just the internal governing rules of how the committee will proceed, under the direction of co-chairs Patty Murray (D-WA) and Jeb Hensarling (R-TX). Both sides are talking about compromise and the need for action, but a lot of that talk can be dismissed as empty. The fault line that’s starting to emerge is over whether job creation strategies should be part of the Super Committee’s work.
Although Murray said she agreed that the “deep and long-term deficit and long-term debt” is placing an “overwhelming burden” on the nation and future generations, she and other Democrats spent more time talking about the desperate need for job creation, while Republicans led by Hensarling argued that reducing the deficit is a jobs-plan in and of itself.
“Deficit reduction and a path to sustainability is itself a jobs program,” Hensarling asserted.
Democrats on the committee have signaled a preference for jobs ideas, although it’s unclear whether they would ask CBO to use those to model future growth rates upward, which would lower deficits. Rep. John Larson (D-CT) has a bill to this effect, a Super Committee for jobs, and the aptly named American Jobs ACt that President Obama will introduce tonight could provide a template for that hypothetical committee. But I don’t see much hope of that getting through.
There is a way for the President to use the veto power to say he would not sign any Super Committee bill that didn’t include jobs measures, but there’s been no mention of that to this point.
One thing we do know: the lobbyist money will flow freely on the Super Committee.
Like many federal contractors, General Electric has a lot riding on the work of a new congressional “supercommittee,” which will help decide whether to impose massive cuts in defense and health-care spending.
But the Connecticut-based conglomerate also has a potential advantage: A number of its lobbyists used to work for members of the committee, and will be able to lobby their former employers to limit the impact of any reductions in the weeks ahead.GE is hardly alone: Nearly 100 registered lobbyists used to work for members of the supercommittee, now representing defense companies, health-care conglomerates, Wall Street banks and others with a vested interest in the panel’s outcome, according to a Washington Post analysis of disclosure data. Three Democrats and three Republicans on the panel also employ former industry lobbyists on their staffs.[...]
“When the committee sits down to do its work, it’s not like they’re in an idealized, platonic debating committee,” said Bill Allison, editorial director of the Sunlight Foundation, which is tracking ties between lobbyists and the panel. “They’re going to have in mind the interests of those they are most familiar with, including their big donors and former advisers.”
Considering that committee members will not even be able to agree on the causes of the deficit, and therefore have no consistent road map for how to best reduce it, I think the smart money is on either a solution that protects the favored industries of committee members, or no solution at all. Indeed the latter looks likely, as committee member Max Baucus is already scheduling tax reform hearings on the Senate Finance Committee, well outside the Super Committee process. House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp is interested in using the normal committee process for that as well, and he’s also a Super Committee member.
All signs point to the trigger getting pulled, and then nothing happening because the trigger cuts don’t get implemented until 2013, giving ample opportunity for fixes in the interim that avoid those cuts. The lobbying won’t stop with the committee, in other words.




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If CF2 simply passes chained CPI ($300 billion) + trigger cuts ($1.2 billion) then the committee has “succeeded” and nobody gets labelled a failure. Seems like a pretty easy lift to me.
I see all this as yet another sanctioned assault on the middle class and poor, as part of the class war being waged.
It’s all kabuki to break up the last vestiges of FDR/LBJ.
Part of the unitary state, elimination of civil rights, elim of economic ability on the part of we the people, et.
So no matter WHAT they say or do, I surely expect the worse, and jobs creation will NOT be for the masses, only for the chosen few.
But one thing struck me Mr. Dayen:
Pure intent to kill us off, as opposed to the dim party line of we need to do this so it will be better later.
N all of it lies, lies, damned lies.
Very few jobs will be created out of this commission, out of this administration, out of the next administration, and it’s by intent and deed.
Class war baby, who’s on our side? The side of we the people?
No one.
Oh Larue, you have the very essence of the thing. Damn them all to hell.
In other words, David: Business as Fucking Usual.
“Although Murray said she agreed that the “deep and long-term deficit and long-term debt” is placing an “overwhelming burden” on the nation and future generations, she and other Democrats spent more time talking about the desperate need for job creation, while Republicans led by Hensarling argued that reducing the deficit is a jobs-plan in and of itself.”
Talk like this shows their interest in jobs creation is zero. The deficit and long term debt burden have nothing, zilch to do with suppressing job creation. The deficit means government is pumping money into the economy plus not withholding money from the economy through taxes which in normal times would cause buying of goods and services leading to creation of jobs. The priming the pump strategy is not working at present for a number of reasons I’m not economically literate enough to understand. One of them is that banks aren’t lending and Wall St. is jittery, and with unemployment so high there’s a psychology at work that suppresses buying. What is needed is the kind of robust gov’t action Steiglitz, Krugman, Dean and many others have been urging since 2008. Lots of stimulus, creation of federal work programs like the CCC of the New Deal. Cost cutting and deficit reduction is insane in an economy like this, the surest way to makes things even worse. I heard a report last night that the level of hunger in the US increased dramatically in 2008 but has been holding fairly steady since then, mostly through programs like Food Stamps. Wanna bet Catfood II will cut food stamps?
The long term debt burden that will effect our children is one of those 7 deadly innocent frauds Warren Mosler writes about in his book of the same name (available for free on his site).
No one except us.
*bows*
Wish it weren’t so.
Seems my teen years in 60′s n early 70′s served me well to be suspect of the PTB.
My parents raised me that way to some extent also.
N my formative years raised overseas in SE Asia enabled the multicultural perspective to question all this shit.
Best to us all . . and you.
I can only invoke the Teal’c head bow and phrase from SG-1.
Indeed.
Well spoken.
We are so many, but alas, so few in terms of being effective.
Thanks for the chat ma’am.
My pleasure. I was just thinking on the previous post about the elderly man being roughed up at the Ryan “town hall” – what would happen if lots of bystanders had joined to put their bodies in the way of the cops trying to drag him out, not using viloence but just strength of numbers. That might get CNN’s attention. I wouldn’t expect it with this pay per view crowd, but in other similar situations when questioners get roughed up.
Fanatic republicans crash world markets and forced this kangaroo committee on us, and now the fanatics are mouthing off complaining about it. They have assured the presidents reelection and the defeat of republican fanatical congress. American will hate them for a long time to come.
Tea party attacks seniors and people in wheel chairs at town hall meeting all over america and crashes world markets, forcing their will on us and gets away with it scoot free. But people at tea party fanatic Ryan town hall are treated like animals for protesting. Ryan is scum. The worst of a hate mongering cult bent on destroying our country. If people in his dist reelect him they are morons cutting their own throats.
We are screwed again.
What does DD mean in this quote at the end? I know I can be slow but if I that says what I think it says, it’s a meme that needs to die.
Didn’t Obama give them their road map for CF2?
Does anyone believe this is really intended to reduce the deficit?
Why are we accepting their framing, or to put it more simply, lies?
Both Parties representatives are there to impose austerity measures. They are not going to cut what would actually be helpful if they cut. Jiminy crickets, DD.
We are prepared to make our contacts with these people’s staffs. I just talked with one of Patty Murray’s staffers who is always and I mean always cool and collected but is a little frazzled right now which shocked me more than a little. I suspect we can make their bad decisions a little more uncomfortable for them but we need to be heavy impact and hit them every damn day of this commission.
Excellent point, but don’t expect action from Americans brought up on compromise and pretending everyone is really nice underneath their “gruff” exterior.
We are passive whiners. Can’t mention that “real” men and women used to stand up for their rights and would die for their beliefs, because that offends the current nanny culture of don’t “say anything unless you say something nice.”
A population that acts like nine-year-old twits will be treated as such.