Greek bond yields are pricing in default with a 98% degree of confidence. This is the latest in the almost monthly flare-up where Greece is set to default, followed by some half-measure from Eurozone members that props them up, followed by a lack of confidence in that plan. This just causes more uncertainty and pain for the whole of Europe.
“Everyone’s pricing in a pretty near-term default and I think it’ll be a hard event,” said Peter Tchir, founder of hedge fund TF Market Advisors in New York. “Clearly this austerity plan is not working.”
It costs a record $5.8 million upfront and $100,000 annually to insure $10 million of Greece’s debt for five years using credit-default swaps, up from $5.5 million in advance on Sept. 9, according to CMA. Greek bonds plunged, sending the 10- year yield to 25 percent for the first time.
It’s not so much the Greek lost cause but the contagion that has spread elsewhere that’s the real problem. Credit default swaps on debt from Italy, France, Belgium and Portugal, as well as French banks, are all at new record highs.
There’s still quite a bit of denial from countries like Germany, with their focus on “losing patience” with Greece, rather than the simple fact that the plans they prescribed to avoid default, mainly austerity, simply didn’t work. They can go forward and move toward fiscal integration or go backward and break up the euro. They cannot muddle through, which has been the main strategy so far on the sovereign debt crisis. It has only exacerbated it.
The prediction is that Greece has until the end of October before a default event that could trigger a much wider crisis. The clock is ticking.
…This Der Spiegel article is perverse. The idea that Athens is to blame for the austerity program imposed on them by the ECB and IMF not working makes no sense. There is talk of allowing Greece to leave the euro, which given the level of the crisis is probably the least-worst option.



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Thanks, Dday. What does Tchir mean by “hard” when he says the Greek default will be a “hard event”? And should I buy my Euros now, or wait until October?
Seriously, why should events be dragged out another six weeks? If Greece is going to default in six weeks why are none of the predictable consequences (other than CDS spikes) happening this week? What is propping up the value of the Euro today?
U.S. stock markets opened up and down less than 3/10ths of a percent in the first minute.
NYT’s tickers show same flatness in first five minutes.
I’m not sure that fiscal integration is necessarilly forward or that breaking up the euro is backward. Given what has happened so far, I would think that fiscal integration would mean austerity while countries having their own currencies would be self-determination. I think fiscal integration would be like the Confederate States of America, but even more dysfunctional as those countries aren’t even trying to claim a single european identity.
I hope my fellow Greeks listen to Michael Hudson, who has been advising governments, such as Iceland, with similar problems.
Sas paraklao, agapiti mou Ellenes, na akouste ton Michael Hudson.
I said it yesterday, it’s the damn Greek food. Nobody likes Greek food. Look how shitty the Itallians run their country. Strikes every other month, 20 political parties. NOBODY knows who the president of Italy is, even the Italians. But the FOOD drives the economy. And the wine. Not that crappy tasting oozo or however you spell it.
Merkel says that Greece must implement the austerity program to get the next round of bailout in October. More blood, you bastards or we start a war.
It’ll be the north against the south – - of Europe this time around. France could be a border state.
They’ll go Vichy
So Geithner’s on his way to Poland for a one day meeting with EU finance ministers to tell them Europe’s strongest nations have to unequivocally support those in trouble.
Geithner’s sounds like a blank check, but just yesterday the euro mavens were discussing renegotiating their euro treaties to contain tougher teeth and not applying any enhanced bailout criteria to current problems. These people are wandering around in a fog. So Geithner could just as well have phoned them or teleconferenced for all the good any of this will do.
Greece can’t afford the euro going forward regardless of what happens now. They should exit the euro, readopt the drachma, establish a devalued fiat exchange rate for a couple of years (at least), pay back creditors in devalued drachma at 30 cents on the dollar. That’s a default kind of like Argentina’s a decade ago. Call it what it is and leverage it to the hilt.
Systemic bank failure (worldwide) is inevitable. Golden Sacks and the big banks injected the poison (phoney baloney derivatives, bs financial instruments, etc.) into the system and now they can’t find an antidote. The last 3 years have been basically damage control through austerity. They think they can plug up the hole by stripping wealth from regular people because ALL the banks are insolvent and they don’t have money. WE have the money. Imagine if Oilbummer admitted this. Of course he won’t because he’s a lying sack of shit, along with the rest of the criminal elite.
China to the rescue? Assuming Timmie’s visit doesn’t do the trick.
China sees Europe as ‘too important to fail’
Imagine China taking a poison pill. Maybe they’ll get a lien on the Parthenon.
The truth that capitalism is untenable is staring us in the face. No Soviet bogeyman now to blame everything on.
Remember, World War I was fought totally by capitalist countries, willing to slaughter millions. Today’s wars, also totally capitalist and nationalist. The end of the Soviet Union did not mean the end of the nuclear arsenal.
Socialism was terribly distorted under Stalin and Mao, who mostly were distorted representations of socialism due to the hostility of the West and those countries isolation, sanctions, etc. The same thing happened in North Korea, and with a vengeance, as the country was basically totally destroyed during the Korean War. Cambodia, too, bombed by the U.S. “back to the Stone Age,” leaving a kind of Mad Max version of communism in the hands of Pol Pot and his children cadre (see The Killing Fields).
Greece still has parties and strong unions that claim to speak and act on behalf of the working class. They fought before. Will they fight German-imposed severe “austerity” now?
In the U.S., of course, there’s nothing in the way of parties to defend the working and middle classes here. We are living off earned social capital from the past, and that is fast running out.
I guess you think you’re being funny with comments like this but actually you sound like a moron.
Yep. The problem with 21st century society is fundamentalism–religious and economic.
In the US, we suffer from a particularly virulent form of market fundamentalism that threatens to cannibalize the entire society, if it hasn’t already. In just these few years, we see the acceleration of the calls for ending the already threadbare social safety net. We can only imagine how worse it will get in the next 4 years with Barry Osterity or a Repug. Either way, the fix is in.
People say US citizens won’t revolt. I tend to disagree. With no mediating factors in place (think FDR), the shit will hit the fan. Desperate, hungry people do desperate things. When one’s personal circumstances do not jive with the capitalist media’s exhortations of “recovery”, you will see many, many angry people storming the gates.
Most people in the US aren’t hungry; have you seen the obesity rates? Regarding Greece you can’t spend what you don’t have, at least not forever. It seems like most of the commenters here are upset that Germany et al are putting conditions on keeping the loan spigots turned on. Who can blame them if it costs 58% up front to insure the debt?
I think Greece – and maybe a few other countries – would be better off out of the euro. The way things work now it’s like a Confederacy of Dunces with how it is organized and I think it is bound to stay that way.
People are fat in the US because of the shitty, cheap corporate crap food.
bluedot12 at #6–whatever happens, there will not be a war between European nations over this. There may be some civil unrest in Gr%%ce, however no war involving Germ@ny. Silly.
Iceland is indeed a great example of what to do. After not quite agreeing with you on climate change it is nice that I can agrre on this. Thanks for posting
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They need out of the Euro as Germany will not allow true fiscal integration after seeing the transfer of wealth from the east and west coasts in the welfare states of the mid-west and south that has been going on for decades (Texas just stopped being a welfare state in the last couple of years). Germany is not that kind to other nations.
Everyone seems to be ignoring the corruption factor. German industry was regularly buying off Greek politicians to implement projects for said industries. Understandable, its always nice to make money on both ends. I’m not surprised the Greek people are unhappy about it though.
Any more than you failed to bring it up. In the US we would call the same behavior fraud. We’d probably start a war over it.
Greek wines winning EU contests bother you much? Seven Star Metaxa is not a better Cognac? Annisett is a better Liquorice (or licorice) flavored drink than Ouzo – great real. Olive oil in 50 flavors is too much choice?
I grant you food for the cheap tourist – like pasta – is over-cooked in the outdoor take out places – but who does lamb better – the French? – get real.
Greek Stews are the same as in Aix-en-Provence but you don’t pay for the French PR – and the Greek oregano is better.
You’re welcome. Michael Hudson is a many-time guest of Gary Null, and was on his show, today.
It’s interesting how we confuse the banks with the governments, the eurozone with europe, and the stock market with the real economy.
Why can’t Europe and the US nationalize these banks along with all the credits they’ve created and issue new currency, but not to the Bankers/Traders/Casino owners who should have been bankrupted in the first place?