Palestine submitted their petition to the United Nations Security Council for membership as a state today, and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas delivered a rousing speech before the General Assembly in support of the measure.
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas was greeted by sustained applause and appreciative whistles as he approached the dais in the General Assembly hall to deliver a speech outlining his people’s hopes and dreams of becoming a full member of the United Nations. Some members of the Israeli delegation, including Foreign Minister Avigdor Liebermann, left the hall as Abbas approached the podium.
Negotiations with Israel “will be meaningless” as long as it continues building on lands the Palestinians claim for that state, he declared, warning that his government could collapse if the construction persists.
“This policy is responsible for the continued failure of the successive international attempts to salvage the peace process,” said Abbas, who has refused to negotiate until the construction stops. “This settlement policy threatens to also undermine the structure of the Palestinian National Authority and even end its existence.”
To another round of applause, he held up a copy of the formal membership application and said he had asked U.N. chief Ban Ki-moon to expedite deliberation of his request to have the United Nations recognize a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem.
Security Council action on the request will not be immediate. The vote will be put on hold to allow for an opportunity to renew peace talks with the Israelis. But the reaction of the Israeli delegation tells you how far that will go. And each day of delay will lead to more pressure from Palestine and its wellspring of international support. Abbas has received a lot of praise and stature internationally for focusing attention on Palestine’s plight over the past few days.
But the Security Council resolution won’t pass. The United States is committed to a veto, and France and Britain will likely abstain. If Palestine gets 9 votes for statehood at the Security Council, however, a distinct possibility, the measure could move to the General Assembly, or they could petition the GA for Observer Status, which cannot be vetoed and would likely succeed. If there’s no movement at the Security Council, the Palestinians are likely to move to the General Assembly, but we’re not there yet.
Israel braced for protests and rallies among gleeful Palestinians by deploying 22,000 police officers around the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Protests are expected to be peaceful, but obviously this is a volatile part of the world, and provocateurs could lead to violence.
While the statehood bid will not automatically confer a state or peace in the Middle East, Palestine is using the only leverage they have to advance their interest in an independent state. The idea that this bid for statehood would “threaten the peace process,” as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a speech after Abbas, assumes that there’s any peace process to begin with. The statehood proposal, in fact, kicked off the first diplomacy toward the peace process in many months.
The one problem for Abbas is getting unified support at home:
The U.N. recognition bid has won Abbas broad popular support at home, but it is opposed by his main political rival, the Islamic militant Hamas movement that violently wrested control of Gaza in 2007.
Gaza’s Hamas prime minister, Ismail Haniyeh, accused Abbas on Friday of relinquishing Palestinian rights by seeking recognition for a state in the pre-1967 borders. Hamas’ founding charter calls for the destruction of Israel and a state in all of the territory between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River, though some Hamas officials have suggested they would support a peace deal based on the 1967 lines.
“The Palestinian people do not beg the world for a state, and the state can’t be created through decisions and initiatives,” Haniyeh said. “States liberate their land first and then the political body can be established.”
Former Obama State Department official Anne-Marie Slaughter chided the US veto threat in the pages of the Financial Times. “The move is likely to trigger violence in Gaza and possibly the West Bank; Israeli countermeasures risk igniting more anti-Israel demonstrations across the Middle East, particularly in Egypt, and possibly in Syria. In both cases a direct clash between the Israeli and Egyptian or Syrian soldiers in the Sinai or the Golan Heights is all too possible, with potentially catastrophic consequences,” she wrote.
More from JTA and Reuters.
UPDATE: The full speech is available here.




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netanyahu and the american neocons were gleeful when they broke obama’s back
now they’re finding out what happens when the u.s. president is spineless
karma is a bitch
Give em a friggin State already, for all its worth and get on to the next War. The Arabs will never accede to a rump Palestinian State , they make it clear on their media daily in Arabic they intend to eventually drive the Jews into the sea ( code for murder them all.)
And what plans do the Netanyahu supporters have for the Palestinians?.
The World Wonders
Pardon the segue, but where do you think Israel might want to drop these?
“President Barack Obama secretly authorized the sale of 55 powerful bunker-busting bombs to Israel, Newsweek magazine reported Friday.”
More here.
Maybe they are just going to make Gaza into a really big beach.
from the guardian
Palestinian leader privately retreated from his pledge to seek an immediate security council vote in part because he is no longer sure of winning the necessary majority, which would have given the Palestinians a moral victory even if, as threatened, the US used its veto.
Palestinian sources say they believe Washington has bullied several security council members, including Portugal, into withdrawing their support for the Palestinian move by threatening to withhold support in financial institutions for its stricken economy, and Bosnia, over its opposition to Kosovo being admitted to the UN.
Palestinian officials believe Nigeria is no longer certain to vote in their favour, while there are also questions about the position of Gabon and Colombia.
One senior Palestinian official said the US was “playing a really nasty game”.
so clinton comes out and says reason no peace is because of israeli govt and behind the scenes his wife threatens other countries if they show support for palestine. meanwhile our humanitarian work in libya continues
Maybe this was in exchange for aid BO approved for the Palestinians, which had to be approved by netenyahu
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen David Dayen:
Here is the moment for Obama to regain his 2008 “mojo” and leap outta the quick sand into which Rahm, Axlerod and the Daley brothers have left ‘im. US support for Palestinian statehood could work for Obama like it worked for Truman in 1948. Wouldn’t that be the irony of all historical ironies??!!! In fact, it takes all the air outta the political balloon for the next year and changes the election dynamics completely. Of course it could get Obama assasinated and Gen. Petraeus elevated to the White House sooner’n is planned for ‘im…
But what the hell Obama, go for it Obama,you whimp, you aren’t gunna get re-elected any other way.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, MAYBE THERE REALLY IS AN ARAB SPRING GOIN’ ON!!!
Fuck netanyahu.
Thanks for the post David.
Citizen seaglass:
Learn another verse and change the key signature, nobody’s listenin’ to that one anymore!
Video of Abbas speech here. Does anyone know how to put it up on youtube?
I supposse they are gonna want their own olympic team now.
Isn’t all this just an academic exercise?
Huh? What does it change about “it’s the economy (jobs), stupid” that we’ve been told the election rides on? (not familiar with how it “worked for Truman”) Unless it’s a new ME war you’re talking about… that indeed would change the election dynamics (hence my prediction, hit Iran, 3/2012).
Thank you for putting that link up earlier, eCAHN. I missed the speech in real time. I hope that everyone listens to this speech. It was eloquent and spoke to things every single American citizen should understand AND embrace. It was a truly historic moment and Abbas rose to the occassion magnificently.
Palestine deserves full recognition in the UN.
Obama could and should support full recognition. If he does not, then on whom may his supporters place blame for what will be obvious and cynical failure?
DW
Rhetoric and publicity can move issues or not. Speeches are a necessary first step, but far from sufficient of course. I’m a pessimist but I think there’s only upside for Palestine in this speech. Maybe not a lot, but more than not making it.
If what mswinkle cited above from the Guardian is accurate, and I have no doubt that it is, U.S. is using up it’s “diplomatic” ammunition (heh) at a pretty good clip (double heh). That can’t be bad. Diplomacy in the pursuit of unjust ends deserves to fail.
seaglass wrote: “…they make it clear on their media daily in Arabic they intend to eventually drive the Jews into the sea.”
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Well, the military might (competency) of the Arab nation(s), as a whole, has been underwhelming. With the help Israel gets from us, I think that unlikely.
But, you gotta give ‘em credit for their persistance, if not their tactics. Egypt got it right. Sit down, cut the best deal you can and move on. But the hatred is so entrenched in those people, I think THAT unlikely too.
No doubt they’ll win the rock throwing contest. Here’s the flag.
Palestine is not seeking statehood recognition, but UN membership.
Over 120 nations recognize Palestine as a state. The following countries have consulates in Palestine:
Australia, China, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, India, Jordan, Netherlands, Poland, Qatar and South Africa.
These countries have embassies in Palestine: Cyprus and Morocco.
“Well that’s evident…” Said the monkey after he shat upon the table top.
:o)
My best guess is that those little party-favors are probably for use against Iran and their nookie program. Which might dovetail nicely with an attempt by Obama to climb out of the numbers toilet by starting up his own rally-’round-the-prez! war. (Not that the ones going on now, aren’t his…)
I LIKE it.
You seem pretty knowlegable about al this. The Palestinians and the Phillistines…they’re different people, right????
Well, just now, it’s pretty clear who’s being driven…and who’s doing the driving…
Citizen pokums:
It actually takes the focus off “class warfare” and onto peace in the middle east and balancing the budget on the peace dividend…this election will NEVER be about jobs.
Heh, I think the bulldozers are all going in the other direction.
My knowledge is spotty in the sense that if I’ve read a book about it, I might understand it; otherwise I’m a moran about it. So I don’t have an informed A to your Q. Meanwhile there’s always wiki. Which contains this prescient sentence near the end.
I think I have also read that the Philistines were sea people and were the ones who moved into Carthage, but don’t rely on me for that tidbit.
Really? Where?. You need provide a source for that. If i remember correctly that originated with the zionists, and it’s a projection.
And CAMERA has been busted mistranslating videos.
Some of it is coming back to me now. Goliath was a Phillistine. If I recall, in a basketball game between the Phillistines and the Israelites, a scuffle ensued. Goliath, at 6 ft 9 inches, was their center and David was just a point guard. He fought Goliath anyway and took him out with a stone and a slingshot. Without theuir center, the Philistines forfeited the game.
Is that pretty much correct????
That would seem to be the case.
“Israel braced for protests and rallies among gleeful Palestinians by deploying 22,000 police officers around the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Protests are expected to be peaceful, but obviously this is a volatile part of the world, and provocateurs could lead to violence.”
And you failed to add,”on either side”.
“The matter of the fact is that this statement is a total fabrication by the Zionist propaganda machine. No Arab, or Palestinian leader has ever stated that they wanted to push the Jews into the sea. In fact, the usage of this term originated in a speech by Israeli prime minister, Ben Gurion. In his speech, he states that the Arab armies intended to “push all the Jews into the sea, dead or alive”. This statement has been attributed to many Arab leaders, specifically the former PLO leader, Yasser Arafat.”
“The Arabs never intended to “push the Jews into the sea”, and they never did. Ironically, the Zionist forces of early Israel did what they claimed the Arabs wanted to do to them. They literally pushed the Palestinians into the sea. There are documented cases of Jewish forces literally driving Palestinians into the sea, by forcing them onto boats after they were expelled from their homes.”
Hey, look! Pictures of Arabs being pushed into the sea onto little fishing boats in Jaffa in 1948!
palestinians were canaanites.
To make an analogy: Attica did provoke a response from jailers, a pretty violent one.
Bibi acted like Taba was still on offer – and that the 2008 discussion was more generous than Taba – of course Bibi’s Taba is the Swiss Canton proposal at Camp David – not the Clinton talks at Taba in Jan 2001.
Bibi is a politician that like Obama makes crap sound like a promise and lets you hear what you want to interpret from his remarks. He made good points at times on Israel’s needs in an agreement – but in sum total tossed out nothing except “let’s talk” – and we’ve seen what already happen when the PA finally accepted a Taba arrangement last year (a betrayal the Palestinian people in the opinion of some, but the only solution in my view).
Obama: “Peace will not come through statements and resolutions at the UN – if it were that easy, it would have been accomplished by now. Ultimately, it is Israelis and Palestinians who must live side by side.”
The idea that peace is necessary before one of the two states at war can be admitted to the United Nations, while the other state has been a member for sixty years, is bogus. Also the idea that membership can bring peace is a strawman.
First look at another example, Korea:
Start of Korean War, June 25, 1950
Armistice Agreement, July 27, 1953
North and South Korea admitted to United Nations, September 17, 1991
Status, still at war.
UN membership did not bring peace.
But with Israel/Palestine there’s a difference
Israel admitted to United Nations, May 11, 1949
Palestine refused admittance to United Nations, continuously
Status, still at war
UN membership will not bring peace, Obama says.
Perhaps he’s thinking of Korea.
But that is (obviously) not a reason to deny membership to Palestine.
It wasn’t for the Koreas.
If admission to the UN brought peace, the U.S. would not be allowed to be a member.
For Israel and its anti-liberal supporters, nothing the Palestinians do, short of surrendering and accepting the role of Helots to Sparta will do. Violent resistance is terrorism. Non-violent protests are put down with tear gas and rubber bullets. Unarmed flotillas are shot. Diplomatic solutions like going to the U.N. to seek membership somehow threaten Israel’s existence. The litany of excuses never end. Once you accept the radical (as of the 18th century) notion that all men were created equal, defending Israel’s occupation becomes impossible.
Seems to me your dreams of ME peace and a peace dividend as focal points for this election are several leaps of faith too far (would love for you to be right). Increasing unemployment and poverty rates, and the fear of falling into those ranks, will remain the main focal points for the great majority of the peeps, IMO. Believe it was DDay just yesterday that said the first 9 of the top 10 objectives for the admin should be jobs.
Before I knew anything about the history of the conflict, I was riding in a taxi with a Pakistani driver and the subject came up. It was during the 2nd Intifada I think. I asked why didn’t the Palestinians use Gandhian tactics. The driver said: “They did that. It didn’t work.” It was then that I thought I should keep my mouth shut until I learned more.
I also found O’s UN speech hysterically funny (gallows humor) for the man who expanded existing wars in the ME to a faretheewell and keeps the region broiling as much as possible, gettin’ all preachy about the only way for ME peace is for Palestine to do everything Israel & it comical sidekick, the U.S., tells it to do.
It is unfortunate, indeed, Ranjit Suresh, that Barack Obama seems to not understand or be able to embrace and act upon the importance and truth of your last sentence …
Everything else that you say is true as well, of course
DW
The side-kick known as Hopalong Flaccidly, eCAHN.
DW
Israel has already killed one Palestinian in the West Bank
Thanks for that information. I think I remember that from church, now. Funny how you can “retain? information even when you are asleep.
Excellent point. Lots of good comments here today, again. I think if I hang around long enough I can get some of the answers on Jepoardy!.
Hope everybody has a nice weekend.
LOL
Good one.
I am reading a book by Chris Hedges called “The world as it is” He devotes an entire section on Palestine and Israel. What is happening there is an outrage. One would think that a people who were persecuted by the Nazi’s would value other people’s lives. It is a crime what they are doing in Gaza and the West Bank. Chris Hedges is very descriptive about the purging of the Palestinian people. Recommended reading for all.
And your point is?
Can we pressure U.S. politicians to have the U.S. abstain from the UNSC vote? Rather than a knee-jerk veto? Why not let the GA decide?
from Asia Times:
In his address to the General Assembly, Obama went full Israel, as Ha’aretz newspaper’s Chemi Shaley reported in an article with the saucy title “Obama gets a kosher seal of approval” and subtitled “In the eyes of his Israeli audience, including [Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu and [Foreign Minister Avigdor] Lieberman, Obama’s speech was nearly faultless, an assessment subsequently confirmed by the harsh criticism leveled at it by Arab and Palestinian officials.”
Characterizing Obama’s speech as “probably the warmest pro-Israel speech ever given at an annual UN General Assembly meeting by any US president, bar none”, Shaley went on to say:
Apparently the Israel FM Lieberman walked out walked out during Abbas address to the general assembly, later accusing him of incitement. (Translation: any violence is now Abbas’ fault)
JVP emailed me.
NYT reports a few different details:
That must have sucked to be Bibi today, but he didn’t disappoint their low expectations:
Then he turned around, whipped down his pants and waving his ass back and forth at the General Assembly before leaving the dais.
JVP, this most honorable organization finishes:
You know, Shek, that would make a great myFDL diary…! ;-)
Obama made the cover of Maariv Magazine.
http://twitpic.com/6p40gd
And the bots think we are damaging his legacy. .. History wont be kind to this President. Jimmy Carter has been nudged out of first place for weakest president in living memory, I’m afraid.
:) I’ll just ride David Dayens coat tails. People actually read his stuff..
Bravo! well and truely said..
The most cynical view has it that Israel only wants peace with Palestinians who have no power to oppose the settlers and Israeli military on their backs and that Palestinians only want a state, so they can claim Israelis are war criminals and to establish a military to crush Israel.
It’s hard to prove those views are completely incorrect. Finding any kind of “peace” for people with such anger and plans is impossible.
Recognizing Palestine only furthers the interests of one side over the other, but it seems as reasonable as letting Israel have a state with regular U.S. military support.
Supporting Israel’s rhetoric that the have the right to protect themselves by crushing Palestinians and allowing settlers on the West Bank seems equally improper, but we do it.
In the spirit of 5th Century Middle Eastern logic it might be best to arm each of them to the teeth and let the winner claim God ordained it. But, we’re only doing that for Israel.
It’s certainly the oddest political situation and American policy situation in the world.