The Administration wants Congress to move on the American Jobs Act and “pass the bill,” but Harry Reid wants to postpone consideration for now while the Senate focuses on the China Trade Bill.
Bloomberg asked 34 economists about the American Jobs Act, and by and large they said passage of the bill would prevent a recession. By providing a mild stimulus from infrastructure spending and extending or expanding current tax cuts and unemployment insurance that would otherwise expire, the AJA would provide a modest boost to the economy; doing nothing would make matters worse.
The economists consensus viewpoint is otherwise pretty pessimistic, however. There’s a modest difference between a 1 percent increase in GDP and a 1 percent decrease, but the economists don’t even see anything close to a 2 percent jump in GDP out of the deal. And the expected jobs numbers are pretty weak:
The legislation, submitted to Congress this month, would increase gross domestic product by 0.6 percent next year and add or keep 275,000 workers on payrolls, the median estimates in the survey of 34 economists showed. The program would also lower the jobless rate by 0.2 percentage point in 2012, economists said.
Economists in the survey are less optimistic than Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner, who has cited estimates for a 1.5 percent boost to gross domestic product. Even so, the program may bolster Obama’s re-election prospects by lowering a jobless rate that has stayed near 9 percent or more since April 2009.
The plan “prevents a contraction of the economy in the first quarter” of next year, said John Herrmann, a senior fixed-income strategist at State Street Global Markets LLC in Boston, who participated in the survey. “It leads to more retention of workers than net new hires.”
It’s true that parts of the American Jobs Act extend policies already in place. By definition this is not stimulative; it’s anti-contractionary compared to letting the measures expire. But these are sharply lower estimates than what Goldman Sachs and Mark Zandi put out right after the release of the AJA. They estimated about 1 million additional jobs and a 1.5 to 2 percent increase in GDP.
This was a bipartisan group of economists, but not all agreed. The trade lobby National Federation of Independent Business predicted no impact from the $447 billion plan, which is frankly ridiculous.
It’s worth knowing what economists believe the nation will leave on the table with the American Jobs Act, but there’s no real sense that the bill will pass. Heck, the White House can’t even get the Democratic Senate to commit to a vote. Harry Reid supports the AJA, but he wants to put off the vote until later in October. And it’s very interesting what Reid wants to pass in its place:
Despite early and regular pleas from the White House, Senate Democrats say they will not move immediately to take up President Obama’s jobs bill when they return next week from a short recess.
“We’ll get to that,” Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) said Monday night when asked if the likely passage of a temporary spending bill to keep the government functioning meant the Senate could now consider the president’s package [...]
Reid, who is sponsoring the package in the Senate, said Monday the Senate will first take up debate next week on a bill to punish China and other nations for currency manipulation.
“I don’t think there’s anything more important for a jobs measure than China trade, and that’s what we’re going to work on next week,” he said.
The Chinese currency measure, according to an estimate by the Alliance for American manufacturing, would lead to two MILLION jobs coming back to the US. They believe it would force a revaluation of the renminbi relative to the dollar, rebalancing the trade relationship between the two countries. That is vitally important to make exports a driver of recovery.
What’s more, the measure has strong bipartisan support. It got over 360 votes in the House back in 2010, and it passed easily in the Senate years earlier. There are 201 co-sponsors for the House measure, and they may force a vote even if the House GOP leadership doesn’t want the bill to come to the floor.
In other words, Reid is RIGHT that the Chinese currency bill is potentially a more important jobs bill than the American Jobs Act. It has the added benefit of being more likely to pass.
There’s only one problem. The White House doesn’t want the bill.
The White House isn’t thrilled with the China measure, revealing the latest rift with congressional Democrats over the direction of a jobs agenda — as Obama tries to walk a diplomatic tightrope with a powerful economic trading partner.
The critical vote comes Monday, when the Senate is likely to move ahead on the bill to crack down on Chinese currency policies. Seizing on concerns over the jobless rate, the legislation has created some odd bedfellows in Congress: Republicans whose states have been hit by outsourcing and progressive Democrats from battleground states with manufacturing hubs, like Michigan and Ohio, who want to protect their ailing industries from what they consider unfair competition.
The legislation, long championed by Sens. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.) and Brown, would penalize China with tariffs for allegedly keeping the value of its yuan artificially low in an attempt to maintain low Chinese wages and cheaper exports that are more attractive in foreign markets.
Multinationals don’t want to see the products they produce in China get more expensive. The Chamber of Commerce is on record against the bill. The White House probably doesn’t want to anger them, nor do they want to raise the ire of China, preferring a soft (read: non-existent) diplomacy.
This could end up being a major embarrassment for the White House with an election year upcoming. Could Obama possibly veto a bill that pressures China to stop manipulating its currency? Stay tuned.




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It would seem that Harry Reid just doesn’t love Obama, either that or the Democrat party isn’t concerned about the unemployed, and here I thought it was only the GOP which hated the downtrodden.
OMG, Congressional Dems showing a wee bit of independence from the President?!?!? Will wonders never cease. It’s almost like they are an… an… independent branch of government. Who knew? ; )
More Kabuki from the Abbott and Costello White House.
In my opinion Sen. Reid is right that we do not have a free trading system when currency is purposely manipulated to the other party advantage. It puts American manufacturers at a disadvantage to compete in a free and fair market.
So congress wants to pass a bill the president won’t sign and the president wants congress to work on a bill for the propaganda value even though it will never have enough votes to pass.
Gee, I wonder why 85% of Americans think the US government is worst than worthless….
The China bill seems way better than the AJA from my cursory reading here. At least with the China bill, it wouldn’t have to be paid for by the Catfood Commission II raising the Medicare age nor would it cause Social Security to impact the deficit. Like with most things from Obama, AJA might have some marginally good impact, but at way too steep a price for AJA to be worth it.
Ha ha, the politics on this are so jumbled its awesome. Check out this WSJ editorial from a couple weeks ago
“Romney’s China Blunder
Declaring Beijing a ‘currency manipulator’ is likely to backfire.
At a recent Republican Presidential debate, Jon Huntsman slammed Mitt Romney’s promise to designate China as a “currency manipulator” and impose trade sanctions if he is elected. “Mitt,” the former U.S. ambassador to China said, “now is not the time, in a recession, to enter a trade war…”
Huntsman is the Joe Lieberman of the Republican party, he doesn’t have a prayer. The rest of the GOP field is simpatico with Romney on this so regardless of who the GOP nominee is, Obama can’t veto a China trade bill without handing a huge economic issue to the Republicans.
Yet another reason to delete all those e-mail appeals for funds from the DSCC.
I’m confident The Warrior For The Working Class (and fierce advocate) will do the right thing for America by making the RIGHT turns.
Welcome to the CYOA Democratic Senate
CYOA = Cover Your Own Ass
23 Dem Senators have tested the wind, and it is not blowing with OBAMA
23 Dem Senators want to get re-elected next year, they need UNION and PROGRESSIVE help to accomplished this goal.
the cracks between the WH and the DEMS in Senate and House are only going to grow.
Obama hates the idea of having to VETO this CHina Bill, knowing it will only make UNIONS and PROGRESSIVES hate him more.
Dems in the senate and house are doing what all politicians do, when they see their leader fatally injured, they are looking out for number 1.
If the multinationals don’t like the consequences of the China trade bill they’ll just move their manufacturing to wherever they can get the lowest labour costs. That this bill would bring jobs back to the US is laughable on its face.
Wouldn’t hurt to have a consistent response to the AJA and Chinese currency bill.
Well then, Obama can veto the bill should it pass and explain himself. But remember, just because Republicans were for it in 2010 doesn’t mean that they’ll be for it in 2011. Especially if it looks like it might help the jobless rate.
returning 2m jobs to the usa would do a lot to alleviate unemployment.
whereas Barry’s bill hasn’t got the chance of a snowball in hell of getting passed. Worse, Obummer knows it.
One end of that tightrope is a noose around the necks of average Americans.
One of Norm Dicks (WA-6) staff was arguing with me that we needed a free trade deal with China. I don’t know what kind of nonsense Congress is up to, but I would really like to know what kind of game(tightrope) Obama is playing with China.
Yes if only! They need to dump Obama. Congrats to Harry Reid for trying to do something that would bring millions of jobs back to the USA. Most economists have been saying for some time that this is what is needed to fix our jobs problem. But once again, the Abomination shows himself to be against the American people. Post American president my ass, anti American is more like it. I can’t wait to see the hind end of this fool.
Soooo, you believe that the multinationals will rebuild a US based manufacturing sector?
This bill Reid is pushing is exactly what is needed to solve the jobs problem, so of course Obama is against it! Go ahead and veto it Bagman in Chief and watch what a landslide happens in 2012 for a Republican Congress and President. I can’t believe Harry Reid is actually proposing something that would help us, it’s amazing. Well Nevada does have very high unemployment and he almost lost to a lunatic last time, so maybe he is inspired to preserve his cushy job by helping us. Stranger things have happened. Obama is a turd. Totally out to help the banks and multinationals at our expense. Democrats need to defy him and do something to help us. Otherwise, who needs them?
This is why Obama’s tactic of quit governing, start campaigning is going to blow up in his face.
He basically gave up on doing anything more during his term. He proposed a jobs plan that he knew was not going to ever get passed, BUT, he figured the GOP would turn it down and then he could blame them. Even though nothing got done between now and January of 2013, he thought it would help him get re-elected.
The thought that the Democrats in the Senate would stall on his “jobs” plan likely never occurred to him. Reid clearly diffusing the Obama campaign line of “the GOP stalled me.”
Now, he is left with a program that is going nowhere and no one to blame it on.
Redefining “lose-lose.”
This may be the first President rejected by both parties. History in the making, but not the kind Obama thought.
They will rebuild anything if the costs are cheaper. If they can make it here for less, they will.
Same as consumer, who really drives all of this. If it is cheaper when made in the US, they’ll buy it.
Why promote a great seesaw of jobs where average people are played off one another? Cheaper isn’t a principle. Protecting your economy and tax base is. There are still manufacturers out there that actually have some love for their country and don’t consider business a mercenary venture. Instead of actually resisting “cheaper” at any cost, seems like you are promoting the continuation of failed economic policies.
Again, that does not acknowledge the need for a BUY American movement. Even China did a BUY China with its stimulus. Does China only get to look out for itself? Can’t we too?
You’re not acknowledging that the largest companies, many of which should be broken up, aren’t just shedding jobs for the money, but there is something else going on as well with the big brand names. Might check out the Naomi Klein book, No Logo?
If a country demands that a multinational manufacture goods in country to sell in country, it really doesn’t matter if it were cheaper elsewhere. That’s the kind of protectionism we need, won’t get it while both Parties are engaged in “free trade” voodoo, “free market” fairy tales and globalization.
How many Americans do you know who would work for, much less could live on, less than $5 a day? Surplus value, ie, profit, comes from labour. Are you advocating Americans work for those kind of wages? How many Chinese workers can afford the cheapest automobile? How many Chinese workers live in one apartment? Who are you tryin’ to kid?
Your Republican Reading Glasses sure do interfere with your reading comprehension, Rafe, because you’ve just inverted everything in DD’s post.
Obama as usual is running against common sense and with the GOP and the Chamber of Commerce, whereas Democrats like Reid — who knows that the China Trade Bill would add far more jobs and be more likely to pass than Obama’s sham bill which he’s lip-servicing precisely because he knows it won’t pass — are the ones trying to give us jobs.
It appears I am trying to kid you.
First, I said COSTS. That isn’t only labor. There are many costs involved in making something. I know a company who through higher automation lowered their cost below the cost to get from China (which is cost of product + shipping from China + duties). Yeah, they might not hire a few people they might have because they automated more, but the hundreds who worked there kept their jobs.
Second, while I am not saying the Chinese worker makes as much as you, you also have to consider that costs to live there are FAR lower than here. The train ride that might cost you $50 costs them about 25 cents. Housing, electricity, etc. In fact, while not a 3 bedroom place with pool, most Chinese workers are provided housing and food on top of the $5 a day you mention.
Again, I’m not saying it is milk and honey, only that it isn’t as low as the raw $5 figure might indicate.
All that aside, buy American programs and the like almost never work. It is just like the tax thing, if you feel you aren’t being charged enough in tax, cut a check and send it in. No one does. If you want to pay more for something made in the US, do it. No one does. It doesn’t work that way. Nice if it did, but also nice if I won the lottery.
Also, I can tell you that I know a lot of workers in China, personally, who make MUCH more than $5 a day.
Which is not to say that some guy might be making only $5 or even less.
How many workers have you met who make shoes for Nike or trendy clothes the premier demographic (18-35) buys? Did the workers you know live in dormitories provided by the contractors? Those are the workers I’m talking about. You might want to read up on some the conditions of those workers.
Reid probably has a different client base than Obama.. casinos require Americans with money to spend on vacations and pocket money for gambling.
@cregan, Americans used to manufacture quality stuff, and cheap inexpensive stuff came from Taiwan. When we embargoed Iran they had to buy from China and hated it. When they could finally buy our stuff again it was all chinese crap and was a severe let down. Compare old household appliances and tools with what is available at walmart today. It’s junk.
We’re out of balance, no amount of more cheap crap will move the dial the other direction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Immiseration_thesis
for all the screaming about class war, the rich are marxist revolutionaries and have never stopped their predations on the working class.
bye. I thought, too, they obscured the expression in her eyes.
Its so great there then why kids will sell their extra kidney for a damned ipad?
One must remember that Reid is motivated by his faith as a Mormon, which is the same belief in materialism as the worshipers of Baal. Many of the products we buy are only assembled in the US, with the parts being manufactured abroad, and Wal-Mart isn’t the only chain that sells inferior crap. Most of the products are made in the same sweat shops and different brand labels are added as the last step in the process.
True – indeed Chinese millionaires and billionaires abound – as do those tech types who are moving back to China from the US for the ggod wages and good living style – much as the Indian work force has those “US” engineers moving back to India for $30,000 a year and the house and servants that that size pay brings one.
As for Reid, it must be he is opposing Obama because he is a racist – indeed I heard he was a Mormon /s
The above is snark in case someone does not pick up on the /s notation.
Indeed the WH is complaining that since it will be impossible to rebuild the US manufacturing base we are holding Obama to too high a standard. /s
Yes, this is a very important part of this, I wrote a while back about Romney’s position:
http://news.firedoglake.com/2011/09/07/romney-supports-branding-china-a-currency-manipulator-in-economic-plan/
I was raised mormon, and you’re wrong.
ba’al. materialism pffh.. it’s a syncretist religion – a polytheistic christianized masonry with a plantery space god that lives on Kobol. (true believers will argue)
ba’al sacrificed their children to moloch. If you really want to discuss religion thats one thing, but it sounds like you are just interested in denigrating someone because of their faith.
It’s all stupid. You can’t used mysticism to argue against itself. And gods of the Middle Ages were localized. Where you were determined what god you worshiped, until the people of Israel got smart and started carrying theirs around in Holy Ark (of the Covenant).
sorry. See what you did there? You got me to defend HARRY REID!
…and it was long before the middle ages.
““I don’t think there’s anything more important for a jobs measure than China trade, and that’s what we’re going to work on next week,” he said.”
trea·son [tree-zuhn] noun
1.the offense of acting to overthrow one’s government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
2.a violation of allegiance to one’s sovereign or to one’s state.
3.the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.
It would seem he at least qualifies for definitions 2 and 3, and when viewed in the political context, possibly definition 1 as well.
Thanks David, I didn’t catch that last month. Good piece.