The German Parliament approved an expansion of the European bailout fund, the EFSF, today, agreeing to a two month-old solution in the European banking crisis that has already been rendered obsolete. The sweeping nature of the passage, however, provided a signal to the world that Germany will meet responsibilities to Greece.
The vote passed the Bundestag by a large majority — 523 in favor to 85 against, with three abstentions.
The Germans were the latest member nation to approve an increase to the European Financial Stability Fund, which was established in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis. All 17 eurozone countries need to vote before the proposed changes can go into effect. So far, at least nine have said yes.
This only brings the EFSF from €250 billion to €440 billion. The numbers being thrown around now to ring-fence Spain and Italy are more like €2-3 trillion. More votes from eurozone countries on changes to the EFSF are coming in the next couple weeks.
I would just add, to those coming late to this issue, that I would really stress that this is not a sovereign debt crisis. Few of the countries impacted by the crisis were in debt before the Great Recession. The introduction of the euro itself did far more to cause this disaster than “runaway spending” or anything else. And now we’re in a situation that’s a European banking crisis, with the indebted nations as a pass-through.
EK: And if some of these dominoes fall, how bad are things likely to get?
DL: What’s really at stake here is the European banking system. These countries might be relatively small, but if you just look at Greece, Ireland and Portugal, that’s $1 trillion in sovereign debt. If you add Spain, that’s another trillion. If you add Italy, that’s another $1.9 trillion. If the European banks take the hit, that could really cause another Lehman moment. It would be a credit crunch that would throw the European economy into a meaningful recession [...]
EK: But there’s another side to this too, right? Part of the problems in Greece and Ireland and elsewhere were driven by bad loans from German and French banks, and part of the difficulty these countries are having getting back on a growth path is that they’re trying to keep their membership in the euro zone, and that has meant abiding by a tight monetary policy and a strong currency that countries in these sorts of situations would usually have abandoned long ago.
DL: I agree with you. It’s like the housing bubble in the United States. You couldn’t have had a bubble without the financing. In Europe, the debt bubble was financed by German and French banks. So for them to throw all the blame on the profligacy of the Greeks or the Spanish housing bubble is ridiculous. So just in terms of the blame game, it’s unfair just to blame the Greeks. But in terms of a solution, that’s a big part of the problem. Once you’re in a fixed exchange rate and you have these huge imbalances, they can’t be redressed without economic collapse. So the Germans and the French don’t want the Greeks to default because that will force French and German banks to recognize losses and then they’ll have a banking crisis. It’s easier for them to keep these countries afloat than to bail out the banks. But this is not a sustainable situation. Something has to give.
That’s a pretty good nutshell version of what’s going on. The bigger countries don’t want to admit their banks made bad loans. They’d rather engage in a morality play and blame this on the periphery countries. But the bailout money is really being handed to the banks.



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A two month solution, that’s nice. Two months from now they can do it all over again, or discover that there is no money left and withdraw support.
Europe as it was is doomed, all that’s left is the bloodletting and the crying.
The bloodletting is surely coming; the crying is already here. This barbaric maneuver has seen the “socialist” Greek government impose taxes on pensioners making less the 400 Euros a month, which is below the official poverty line, while creating new tax havens for big corporations. Same strategy there as here: get a nominally social democratic-sounding government to impose savage attacks on the working class while fronting for the bankers. If the left doesn’t respond to this, the right will, as they are doing in Greece–where the ND is opposing the attacks. It’s like the 1930s redux.
Show of hands from those who voted for Hope and Change. Welcome to the world you helped create, and a nice place it is.
Heh. who coulda anticipated…
I’ve been waiting to see how intro of euro on as disparate a group that are now members of EC would tear it apart. Outcome was never in question. Only question was how long it would take and what would actually do it.
“The bigger countries don’t want to admit their banks made bad loans. They’d rather engage in a morality play and blame this on the periphery countries. But the bailout money is really being handed to the banks.”
True, the periphery countries are just conduits to transfer the bailout money to the big Euro banks in the same way that AIG/Fannie/Freddie were just conduits to transfer bailout money to Goldman, etc.
Too Big to Fail = Too Big to be Held Accountable.
yeah, the utter capitulation of the greek “socialists” to the banksters and eurocrats shows better than anything ese could that american-style vicious capitalism rules the political world completely
and just look at the horrors we have wrought
for shame
It’s not just that the banks ‘made bad loans.’ That is really only a halftruth and very close to being a lie. What has happened is that the banks became casinos for the rich, and that is how the stock markets are operating worldwide now. Not mentioned in the scenario for Germany’s bailouts is the call I heard (on the radio, yay! BBC, yay!) from some in Europe for a tax on financial transactions that would affect all these big banks profoundly and divert some of the wealth constantly being funneled into them back into the social programs for the various countries which so badly need that help.
Of course England doesn’t want to do this unless it applies across the board to nonEuropean countries as well – because otherwise “it wouldn’t be fair!” But it would save the European Union, because it would be a sign of recognition that the banks have been profiteering and are still doing so, and the wealth of every European country in its basic ability to BE a country, is being squandered at an increasingly frenetic pace.
Until this kind of thing happens, Germans have every right to be furious with Angela Merkel. She’s just pouring more money into the hands of the kleptocrats.
["kleptomania" - a persistent, neurotic impulse to steal, esp. without economic motive - definition from my 1941 Webster's Collegiate Edition Dictionary]
The point that the introduction of the euro is behind much of this is valid. But it should be remembered that many people said joining such disparate economies and peoples was not a good idea. For better or worse Germans still consider themselves German and Greeks still consider themselves Greek. There is no European identity but the euro gave many a false sense that there could be.
European Union started after WWII as European Coal & Steel Community and one of its professed goals was to keep European countries (i.e. Germany & France) from making war on each other every couple of decades. (I don’t know what all the hidden agendas were.) That seems to have worked out fine, but it just grew & grew & grew, until now it is too unwieldy to survive.
Umm…The seeds go back to Clinton & Bush.
Hope and Change was not in Office when most of this happened, including TARP.
Are you always this forgetful? Or is it the meds? You have my sympathy.
AGAIN.
Yes one always wondered how a single monetary policy but disparate fiscal policies could be made to work…
Oh well, it’s a triumph for French intellectualism…always correctly deducing the wrong answer through flawless logic…something about assumptions is nagging in the back of my mind.
Yes, the Bank couldn’t make credit card debt rise quickly enough to make profits, so they’ve found another way to make us pay them for their profits…
Have our governments do it for us.
Isn’t it gratifying to give to the
ngeedy?Attempting to reply to DavidH at 8:
I’m not an economist so take my impressions as a grain of salt, but why would the move to the euro have any implications other than unification, and would folk outside the American colonies be annoyed (I know there’s a huge difference) that this country wanted a single currency? It seems to me it is the banking system worldwide that is at fault and the European Union is simply the first expression of a worldwide phenomenon that has nothing to do with a unified currency situation as brought into being when the European Union came together. It seems to me it is perfectly okay for Greece to be Greece and Germany to be Germany if the banksters are not being given free rein to play havoc with each country’s economy. Rules need to be in place that this kind of speculation cannot any longer cause the destructive effect it is having.
Too bad, Britain. The tax that is being suggested would not cause unfairness except in terms of the kinds of looting of treasuries that is presently becoming rampant. Lead by example and save your ‘commonwealth of nations’ and the other countries will be shown up for the pirating that is going on there. They will have to follow suit. Because the rot is becoming evident everywhere.
Just a non-economist point of view; take it for what it is worth.
[Was going to replace "as" more correctly with "with" in the first line - but now I really like "take my impressions as a grain of salt." Freudian slips can be a saving grace!]
There is a rule for fiscal policy to be a member. Can’t remember exactly what it is & doesn’t matter enough to look it up, but it sumtim like govt (don’t know whether that means total or just federal) deficits can’t be more than so-and-so-much % of GDP. Don’t know whether they’ve enforced that or not. I do recall at the beg that Germany’s deficit was very near the alleged bound. The deficit requirement was one of the reasons I thought it would self-destruct bc it wouldn’t allow for Keynesian stim when it was needed. Silly me. I didn’t anticipate that Keynesian stim would become passe with neolibruls anyhow.
Germany exceeded the 3% Maastricht limit from 2003-2005, and again in 2009, when it allowed itself an, er, Keynesian stimulus of 50 billion Euros. Of course that’s now verboten for Greece. Now what effect would a 50 billion Euro stimulus package have on Greece?
The EU and the eurozone are not the same things.
@juliania
Well, unifying the currencies does not change the countries or the economic behavior of the countries. When Germany entered the eurozone, it signed up to cover the debts of the other members and now it’s having to do so. This hardly took a prophet to predict and many people did predict it. Not sure what any colonies, much less the US, have to do with the eurozone.
It’s certainly fine with me as well for Greece to be Greece but then I am not having to bail it out. Germany may be less fine with Greece’s economic ways these days.
And you have hit on the problem nicely here.
What is the same is the threat of”DIRE” consequences if the big banks don’t get their bailout. As we know from our “DIRE” financial crisis rich people won’t take a loss on their investments if they can get Governments they control to bail them out. We should tax the big banks and ratings agencies to reimburse the pension funds who were cheated and all the rich should eat it in the shorts for investing in BS financial instruments they knew or should have known were a”PONZI” scheme.
50 lashes with a wet noodle for me.
Thanks.
“I would just add, to those coming late to this issue, that I would really stress that this is not a sovereign debt crisis”
This is a sovereign debt crisis. You’re saying because people bought sovereign debt, it’s therefore isn’t the borrowers problem that they borrowed…which would mean nothing could ever be a sovereign debt crisis because there is always someone on the other side of debt.
Greece became EU in 81 and had no problems until Bush pushed eurozone onto Greece 2001 and the taking on of debt so as to not do the 2004 Olympics on the cheap. I do not see a “Clinton” involved in this problem except for the Obama need to move blame to the Clintons.
Greece in the euro benefited Germany more than any other country . The large increase in state workers brought by the Olympics – and the large increase their pay so as to match other eurozone gov worker pay – are the cause of the out of control budget that Germany and France financed via there buying Greek bonds.
For salary and pension income the first EUR 12000 are tax exempt in Greece – you need to check your source.
Pensioners were burning real estate tax notices recently – which may be what your source was referring to.
Very wealthy people bought the bonds(debt) and don’t want to take a loss. The first 700 billion we gave in the US with the famous one page document went to reimburse rich people who would have lost the most money if BushPaulsonDoddFrank did nothing.
Wordsmithing which kind of crisis doesn’t seem too productive at this point.
Well, maybe it’s a banking crisis brought on by an inability to pay back sovereign debt timely, which was brought on by the mismatch between the euro and Greece plus greedy investors and taxpayers who don’t pay taxes.
No doubt the people who saw this coming got their money out of the way in time. Eventually taxpayers taking a hit may encourage an underground economy in the wealthier European countries and they’ll become more like Greece.
According to Mike Whitney writing on another blog whose name we must not speak (Europe Blinking Red) the parliament did not exactly approve a bailout fund for the government to use, they appointed a committee that is required to approve money spent out of the fund, their own little “Super-Committee”. Ms Merkel has not been given a free hand nor the banks a blank check, unlike here in the USA with the TARP fund.
The Banks will fail, Employees will lose their jobs, people will suffer but the wealthy will not lose a penny and probably game the system some more to make a profit. So it will all trickle down to us eventually…
The good news about this is that it seems the public is slowly waking up to the fact that the banks made bad loans and are now being bailed out. There is growing public pressure to let the banks fail and bail out the real economy.
The bad news is that the track record is that bailouts of this nature have been happening for a long time so if history is any guide, the banks will get bailed out for wrecking the world economy, and the banksters will walk away with their loot while the rest of us get the bill.
We need to force the banks to take the loss.
As I pointed out yesterday, this is not going to “let people, companies or countries” “off the hook”, they will have defaulted and have to go through some form of BK, but it will not let those who knowingly made fraudulent or corrupt loans “off the hook” either, they will perhaps also go BK, or quit making stupid loans and no longer force the rest of us to pay for their crimes.
Please pause for a little comic relief:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5QwKEwo4Bc&feature=fvsr