For perhaps the first time, President Barack Obama was forced to explain why there have been no prosecutions of Wall Street executives for their fraudulent actions during the run-up to the financial crisis. Asked by Jake Tapper to explain this behavior, Obama basically suggested that most of the actions on Wall Street weren’t illegal but just immoral, and that his Administration worked to re-regulate the financial sector with the Dodd-Frank reform legislation.
“Banks are in the business of making money, and they find loopholes,” the President said. Apparently forging and fabricating documents to prove ownership of homes that are subsequently stolen from borrowers is now a loophole.
Many of the practices on Wall Street “weren’t necessarily against the law but they had a huge destructive impact,” said the President. The work of Bill Black, the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, and a host of other official studies, analyses, and even court cases cut against that. Just the other day, a new whistleblower lawsuit against banks for setting illegal fees against military personnel wasn’t joined by the Justice Department.
In a follow-up, the President said that “if somebody they violated laws on the books, they need to be prosecuted, and that’s the Attorney General’s job.” Of course, investigations have to actually be carried out, and the President’s Justice Department has been at the lead of a foreclosure fraud settlement which would bail out banks that would otherwise owe in the trillions for fraudulent practices with the origination and securitization of loans, for a pittance of a sum. Only the work of a few Justice Democrats have put a stop to this.
The question came up in the context of Occupy Wall Street, the series of protests in New York City and across the country over the past few weeks. Obama, much like his Chief of Staff, Treasury Secretary and Federal Reserve chief, made some guarded remarks about how the protesters were speaking to a general frustration with some problem that he claimed to have worked to solve. Obama confined his remarks to Wall Street and particularly the Dodd-Frank financial reform, which the Republicans want to roll back. He touted the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, whose director nominee, Richard Cordray, just passed the Senate Banking Committee on a 12-10 vote. But he did not seem to understand the broader context of the protests, against an economy that only works for the top 1% at the expense of the other 99%.
Obama also added this, approximately: “I expended a lot of political capital to keep the banks afloat, and I have the scars to prove it. And I still think it was the right thing to do, because otherwise our economy would have been worse off.” This is the President taking ownership of TARP, which did not pass under his Presidency but which he whipped as a candidate for President in 2008. He took ownership of the extraordinary financial support given to banks as they teetered on the verge of collapse. And this is a central grievance of the protesters on Wall Street and across the country.





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What happens if the attorney general is the “somebody” violating the laws, does he prosecute himself?
*cough* Gunwalker *cough*
so obama is a liar, who coulda node?
I call bullshit.
How much of that expense was to protect the banksters from prosecution?
Boxturtle (Mr. Obama, as a lawyer, do you feel you actions here rise to the level of Obstruction?)
Why Did Obama give this press conference?
It is very simple, Obama does not want the Occupy Wall Street Message to take over the Weekend news cycle
Obama knows and the Dems in DC know, their political party is leaving them!
Dem Leaders have always feared a bottom up take over of the Dem party and agenda, and it is happening right before our eyes
Obama speech of deception today, did not help him at all.
“Ed Schultz the MSNBC clown, who called OBAMA speech today the best ever, got ripped a new by Dylan and Robert Reich”
Clearly the so call liberals on MSNBC will talk about how great OBAMA speech was tonight, and ignore Occupy Wall Street “this was OBAMA agenda, keep MSNBC attention on his pathetic Job Bill”
why doesn’t a reporter ask OBAMA about the 16 trillion that banks got? and why he only wants to give the 99% cuts?
Ed Schultz getting ripped a new one by Dylan was must see TV, Ed was trying to over sale OBAMA crappy speech about nothing to the USA yet again.
Playing eleventy-seven chess obviously takes a terrible toll on one’s cognition and ethical judgment.
immoral?
but, what happened to this?: (from Dave Dayen Feb 2010)
gee, which is it? Now I’m confused.
Not wanting to be a complete apologist, but…..
Obama is in a very tough spot on this. Granted it is largely of his own making.
And the Justice Department operates largely as an entity independent of the White House – as it should. So there is only so much he can do, short of asking for Holder’s resignation.
Yes, Ed was quite pathetic there.
Almost as pathetic as when he told lilberals to ‘suck it up’ and vote for the pos obamacare bill.. That was his ‘jump the shark’ moment. He trotted out a couple of ‘regular merkans’ to exploit their sad stories in order to
defendpropagandize on behalf of obama’s insurance welfare bill – the implication, of course, being that had o’s bill been in place, they would have been spared their suffering.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35817124/ns/msnbc_tv-the_ed_show/t/ed-show/
OT: This is the most bizarre ad I have ever seen come up on FDL:
Really??? “Sharia compliant”????? That should drive Michelle Bachman and all of her “no sharia law in the US” cohorts crazy.
same as “ethical investing”
there are “christian” hotel chains
there’s nothing wrong with this idea.
when Ed started his self described liberal radio program, he had two stations one in north dakota and one in rural ca.
I heard him say, a while ago “I’m wealthy”
Ed bet on Obama and he’s done well with it. For me, He was a lot better when he only had two stations.
They’re getting scared. Now, what’ll they do?
Biden: GOP strong enough to beat Obama in 2012
I do hope they come up with something better than this: “However, the vice president says he’s counting on voters recognizing how deep the recession was and how much the economy has improved under the Obama administration.”
LINK.
Let’s not forget that Ed is a Republican turned Liberal Democrat. He has the fervor of the newly minted non-smokers when they rail against their former smoking buddies. Personally, I’ve never understood how he, or anyone else, can continue to champion Obama every time he does or says something stupid. If we keep going down this road, we’ll be swearing in the Republican President in 2013!
We did that in 2009. We just didn’t know it at the time.
!
Shameless. Fucking. Bastard.
I used to try to catch his show when I could, but that show that I linked to did it for me – to the point of no return. For what it was worth (not much, i’m sure), I emailed him to let him know. Of course, I got no reply; nor did I expect one. It was just cathartic for me.
Him and Rachel – they’ve become unwatchable for me.
norice my bold, it’s a hedge;
Ed is just a MSM puppet. his job is to sell the left vs right BS. Think of him as an actor playing a part. He might be rich but he will be held accountable for his role, all the puppets on TV and in print will
Good grief! How did I ever vote for this clueless MF? He couldn’t possibly be that stupid. He must be a neoliberal ideologue who just doesn’t see anything wrong with 1% owning 90% and the rest of us scrambling for crumbs. Either way, he is a one-term lame duck and essentially irrelevant now.
… and ask for that resignation, he must!
If anyone watched O on TV but the paid for reporters seemed deflated. Like even they were having a hard time listening to the BS
So sad, and so true.
Ok. I’ll bite: so for the sake of argument, let’s just say that in Barry Zero’s fantasyland no bankers broke one damn law. Fine. But Barry Zero, himself, appears to admit that those same bankers did stuff that “had a huge destructive impact.” amirite????
So WHAT, Obama???
OH I see: you *admitted* that what the bankers DID was “huge & destructive.” So: that’s IT. Case closed. We’re all “good,” and we can all go sing kumbayah together whilst giving those same rat-f*cking bastard bankers – who did HUGELY DESTRUCTIVE stuff to the USA & global economies – even more egregiously huge bonuses & salaries.
WTF????
Amirite?
What a LOAD… no surprises here.
We KNOW who pays off Zero with all that sweet sweet payola. Got it!
I don’t buy it. If Obama wanted Wall Street prosecuted Wall Street would be prosecuted. There is plenty there if Holder were “motivated” to prosecute, as high-profile prosecutors generally are and definitely are when their chief executive is. DOJ independence extends only so far.
Bill Daley is that you?
The fact that Obama had to respond to a reporter’s question about Occupy Wall Street is a textbook definition of a successful protest action. Great news on that count.
More bogus bullshit from the bogus bullshit artist who pretends to be POTUS. I know Obama ain’t in charge.
Some have posited that it’s a tightrope dance between the MIC (aka, Dick Cheney/Henry Kissinger) & WallST/bankers (aka, Dimon, etc) who’re pulling the strings.
Guess today the WallSt Overlords are calling the shots & writing Zero’s script that he reads from the Telepromtr.
On Sunday, it was the MIC/Spooks who called the shots via Dick Cheney on the talking head shows.
Becomes clearer every day, don’t it???
“The only thing worse than a liar is a liar that’s also a hypocrite!”
-Tennessee Williams
Hope and Change the most hypocritical campaign slogan ever invented in electoral politics.
heh…
If, in California, I made loans to people who obviously either could not afford them or didn’t exist because the agent wrote a contract for personal profit and it was funded by a cartel calling it AAA when it was garbage, I would be in jail if we had any police left and anyone who cared to prosecute.
I have 14 agent-written fraudulent offers in my file and tried to turn them in to someone. The Realtors’ organizations did not want to “take away a commission” from someone. My office said the problem was from out of state. As self-protection I quit because it is the little guy who gets nailed for crimes. I’m disappointed in this statement by Obama.
If the banksters aren’t criminals, it’s fine for Obama to ask them for millions for his re-election. But I’m sure there is no connection.
you made a wise decision quitting
Even if you were right, why not force Holder out? He is obviously a loser as a prosecutor.
Ah in Obama world, their are two sets of rules of law. One for those with power (military, CIA, banking) and one for those of the rest of us serfs. Listening to his soft banalities this morning was tough cause I just got up and I had to hear such non passion (for this we got worked up in 2008!?) and such tripe. How were we ever suckered by this dude? OCCUPY BABY!
The Presidnet is a man who thought Reagan was a transformative President. He was. He began the transfer of the U.S. Treasury from the 90% to the 1% thirty years ago. Obama is following his idol, Ronald Reagan. He told us so before the election. Some of us did not have our listening ears on. I have no one to blame but myself, but won’t be fooled again. Can’t imagine how sucky it is going to be under Romney. Must go stock rice now.
Just seeing his face pisses me off these days. Hanging around long enough for him to open his mouth isn’t even an option.
Todays presser might be a tipping point. There were two questions about the Occupy Wall Street, the first was deflected then Tapper asked the first real question about accountability. Regrettably it wasn’t followed up with an incredulous ‘who are you kidding’.
It is hard to believe that the economy of the world was brought to a near arrest by everyone obeying the law.
There has been enough, tons, written and documented about the activities of angelo mozillo, WHO BROKE THE LAW, and joseph cassano, WHO BROKE THE LAW.
Goldman sachs who, starting with their engineered smoke and mirrors that Greece erected after they imploded their economy making the bad bet on the returns from olympics, to AIG. There is a lot in between that is more than unethical..
Then there is Washington Mutual who had a market cap of 64 billion one day and were sold for 4 billion the next.
The first traunch of TARP went to make whole european, russian and middle eastern investors who were sold the worthless, ILLEGAL, shit and demanded to be made whole.
The russians wanted to tank us but the chinese waved them off because they would have been scalped if we bit it.
No, the reason there is no prosecutions is the administration, the fed and the President are accessories of and after the fact of the most monumental sovereign CRIME ever committed.
Thank you for sharing your story. I don’t have any links, but I have heard of and read of others who report similar illegal dealings on the part of banks, esp in re to mortgages.
For Obama to have the nerve to say that “nothing illegal” happened is about as big of a bald-faced LIE as possible.
There simply is NO excuse for his behavior. It’s fraudulent. Obama is working in collusion with bankers and wall street to deliberately rip off other citizens, predominantly those in the middle and working class.
Oh yes, that must have been fun to watch. Haven’t watched MSNBC in months, turned in yesterday to Ed. Was hilarious watching him try to talk about how the crowd really echoed the Dem platform and they were Obama supporters. The crowd was booing and denying it. He knows the gig is up but he must play his script.
One could raise the same complaint against Obama in a number of situations that have arisen since his presidency began. For instance, how about the cover-up of the extent and severity of the BP oil spill? But, hey, anybody that is willing to give “full-speed-ahead” to the Tar Sands pipeline really isn’t that much into the environment anyway, is he? I don’t exactly know where to place Obama on the continuum of malfeasance: willing dupe? … pathetic incompetent? … cunning and treacherous apostate? … corporate shill? … Maybe he needs to put on his walking shoes, go on down to Liberty Park and tell the growing disenfranchised in this country that robbery just isn’t prosecutable in this country, unless you steal food. I wonder just where those sneakers might end up?
Yes. That’s it. Thank you. Succinct and to the point.
Crooks, one and all. And then have the nerve to BITCH about taxes on top of it!
There’s no end to his excuses, lies and BS. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/08/business/in-shift-federal-prosecutors-are-lenient-as-companies-break-the-law.html?pagewanted=all
I am agreeing with everything you said, I just pointed out that obama as an escape clause in his statement so he can go back and say “I never said no laws were broken” because of that escape clause
Everything you see looks like a pawn. ;)
Yes. I saw what you were doing and get it.
Just used your very good point as jumping off for my rant!! Thanks for the “diving board” !!
Just about blinded with unbridled FURY at the nerve of this lying criminal asshole.
Obama Banks charged Dark people and people with low education higher interest rates than they did other people you have done nothing in 2 years to put those bankers in jail.
Is the Klan lobbying you now?
SUCH a good line, will use it myself
Banks selling people homes knowing there was no way they could pay might be legal but then selling those home loans to other banks would also be fraud Obama.
Obama is a 1%er. Today in Chicago rich, drug addled traders hung out signs from the Board of Trade taunting the 99%ers.
LOL! The Justice Department operates??? On what? Other than the little people?
Do we have a list of all the laws the banks broke?
So, here’s a thought.
What will Obama’s self-serving defense of himself as a martyr look like?
What might be the points he’ll use, defensively and offensively, to spruce-up the fact of his defeat?
I should explain. I see Obama’s statement, coupled with that Timmeh! made to bankers yesterday (this morning maybe?), as the functional equivalent of concession speech.
Of course, donors shouldn’t expect their billion dollars back.
Yeah, Obama is holding fundraisers where $38,000 is needed to just get in the door. That’s nearly the median income for a majority of Americans. He’s the king of the 1%ers.
righteous
bp crossed my mind, too
But, but, what happened to the new aggressive “progressive” Obama?
He got caught off guard – - -again, by this protest on Wall Street. And to think he touts the Consumer Protection legislation and the POS they call Dodd-Frank to defend himself. Elizabeth Warren is under the bus and most of Dodd Frank has never been implemented and never will be. The word “clueless” comes to mind – - again.
Ps I guess stealing people’s homes and fradulently making up MBS is OK with the clueless one.
haha, I was wondering if it was Abu. have any recollection of him? :)
How could anyone vote for BO and be able to look at themselves in the mirror?
if I’m allowed another word in this new Twitter world, my phrase would be:
willfully clueless.
you’re right. DF not implemented bc rules are for the other guy. there is no enforcement of anything. no laws apply to these people.
He’s never heard of accounting control fraud.
Fraud is still illegal. But the law will not be enforced against Obama or any person or class of persons under Obama’s protection. This is the meaning of “Unitary Executive”. It sounds better for him to just lie. As in they did not break the law. Americans will not hold it against him that he is a liar. If they understood that he is a dictator they might not like it.
He is not their King. He is their servant.
Of course, you could make the case he is not clueless just corrupt taking money from WS. That may make him willfully clueless as noted above by dosido.
Only someone who’s had his head so far up Jamie Dimon’s ass that he’s suffered brain damage from breathing the fumes could believe that because “banks are in the business of making money” it’s understandable that they find loopholes that have “enormous destructive impact”. Once upon a time in America, the way businesses made money was through sound business practices, at least in theory. To excuse massive fraud by claiming that cheating and chiseling is a way of life and the only thing that matters is if you step over a particularly-specific regulatory line is perhaps the most bankrupt economic philosophy I have ever heard.
At least since the last time this asshole opened his pie-hole, that is.
And of course, Obama isn’t REALLY stupid. He’s Evil, and always has been. It’s just that the bullshit he spews to cover his Evil is getting stupider and stupider. At least make an effort, Barry! Sheesh.
(And you can commit fraud even if no specific laws are broken. That’s why it’s called a “scheme to defraud” in some prosecutions; the idea being that although the individual acts were legal, the overall intent was clearly criminal. But I’m sure AG Thomas knows this.)
$38k.
Hmm, that’s only 7,600 times more than Paul Ryan was demanding of his constituents for the privilege of eating banquet food in his presence.
More than 1/2 of US households (US Census & BLS data) have an annual income below the entry fee Obama’s charging.
I always say freakin’ REAGAN prosecuted 1,800 bankers during his bank fraud. Heck, I’m wrong, it was 3,800.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/04/financial-crisis-prosecutions-wall-street-slow_n_818851.html
NEW YORK — After the last major banking crisis, some two decades ago, roughly 3,800 bankers were prosecuted and sentenced to prison terms, by the Justice Department’s count. Yet this time, some four years after the economy descended into the most punishing financial crisis since the Great Depression, the public still waits for the Obama administration to deliver a similar kind of justice.
Exactly.
Which leads me to think that A) he’s either an over-rated Constitutional Law scholar or B) is simply lying. Of course, C) “being A) + B)” is a possibility too.
Chicago Law School, I am told, is worse than Chicago Econ Dept.
They better not do that in the front of some pissed off war vets with no jobs.
Thanks for the reminder!
Reaganauts actually investigated and penalized, though never jailed, both Neil and Jeb for their criminal acts in the S&L debacle.
I’m actually a tad curious as to the psychological machinations that make accountability a “no go zone” in Obama’s mind.
That I too have heard.
I’ve occasionally referred to that program as the Von Mises Law Institute, anchored by the Milton Friedman Law Library.
Another fine reason as to why this clueless toady Trojan of the Oligarchs has to go. God help us all, the Reprobates will be just as bad and meaner, but there ya go.
That$ ea$y: Big Buck$$’ll getcha inta Obama’s “no go zone.”
Be curious no more. The end.
It’s really very simple:
Obama and his minions, especially Eric Holder, are FRAUDS.
They lie.
All the time, they lie.
They’re lying now, the newly found “populism” in the campaign rhetoric. It’s a lie.
And if he’s re-elected, Obama’s second term will be worse than his first.
The preponderance of evidence points to Obama being an active member or at a minimum a sympathizer of the Federalist Society.
Former home of now U.S. Appeals Court Judge Richard Posner, neolib to the nth degree, who also runs training sessions for other fed judges on “law & economics.”
Fox, meet henhouse.
thx, I may well have been unnecessarily over-thinking it.
I think I’m as mad as you are. This statement that the banks did nothing illegal is pure, unalduterated BS. They gave loans to people who were not qualified. They packaged the bad loans into fraudulent, overvalued securities adn sold them off to unsuspecting buffoons. They collectes hiuge bonuses, and, then, when it ALL went bad, they left US holding the bag. That’s any number of federal crimes.
This is the last straw for me with Obama.
Seriously: what’s the difference??
If you can really show me ONE difference between Obama & W – wherein O was somehow “better” than W – I would really love to know it.
IMO, Obama is carrying forward the Bush III Admin on steroids.
I keep hearing so-called liberals/leftists/Dem saying: but but Obama is “still better….”
Really? How?
I fail to see how Magic Undies Mittens will be any “worse” than Obama. It’ll still be the *same cabal* running Mittens that’s presently running Obama, and who previously ran W.
Ya know: meet the new boss, same as the old boss…
The system is functionally corrupt and broken. Pay no attention to the figurehead at the top… the men behind the curtain are who we should be focusing on. OWS is on one track to doing just that. Power to the People!
no sweat…
Of course Wall Street didn’t break any laws, the SEC destroyed all the evidence.
ALL the politicians are FRAUDS these days. The SCOTUS decision Citizens United made sure of that.
Pay attention to the men behind the curtain. THEY are running the show.
Obama, W, Mitt?? Just figureheads.
Sort of like Rosemary Woods & the critical 17 minute tape erasure… eh?
I love how we can’t go after Wall Street crooks who WILL be the reason our economy crashes like Lindsay Lohan’s BMW after an all night drug-and-brooze bender…..or the ATF/DOJ assholes who obviously made money under the table selling guns across the border in the “Fast and Furious” operation.
But when it comes to online poker (which players around the WORLD lost millions in their bankrolls..half of blame goes to Full TIlt poker as well) or medical marijuana (which the constituients of the state of CA VOTED for; where are the righties claiming “state’s rights!”..mius Alex Jones), the DOJ has no problem spending both time AND taxpayer money going after these issues which impact a small amount of society.
Its a joke. All of it.
According to the article: “In a follow-up, the President said that “if somebody violated laws on the books, they need to be prosecuted, and that’s the Attorney General’s job.” Of course, investigations have to actually be carried out, and the President’s Justice Department has been at the lead of a foreclosure fraud settlement which would bail out banks that would otherwise owe in the trillions for fraudulent practices with the origination and securitization of loans, for a pittance of a sum. Only the work of a few Justice Democrats have put a stop to this.
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If THIS doesn’t seal Obama’s fate with many of his supportters, I don;t know what will. He promised to get these crooks in his campaign speeches. He said he would hire 56 new attorneys at the DoJ to punish these crooks. I am fed up with him and will do whatever I can to see he is out of a job in January 2013.
Where’s my Paxil and Valium????
Yes. A not very funny joke, but a joke nonetheless. That’s the picture.
Testing
You are so right.
It is humorous, in a pathetic way, how ‘bots justify Obama support by comparing the craziest things they imagine a Repub could do to Obama’s so-called accomplishments such as Obamacare and his passive-agressive approach to DADT.
And don’t let them get started on the supposed looming doom of SCOTUS nominations. I guess thay are afraid that a Repub would nominate David Duke and that all the Dems would go along.
Who needs Wingnuts when there are so many Libnuts?
Amazing how one can be “in the 99%” and still be irrelevant. SCOTUS guaranteed that.
“Banks are in the business of making money, and they find loopholes,”- Barak Obama.
“Madness is badness of spirit, when one seeks profit from all sources”- Aristotle
“Greed is the inventor of injustice as well as the current enforcer.”
-Julian Casablancas
Musicians and philosophers understand the world better than puppet presidents.
You’re right. It’s Bush’s third term. Some stuff is worse: constitutional violations, murder of U.S. citizens.
For those progressives who’ve recently been encouraged by Obama’s rhetorical shift to populism (his “stumping” for Jobs), and are hoping that it’s for real, sorry to disappoint you. Obama cannot keep himself from licking the shit off the bottom of the Bankster’s boots. It’s who he is, and he is incapable of change.
A comment of yours earlier today about how rich O will be just reminded me of a comment way early in O’s prez. I was doing my usual presentation of evidence about how O wasn’t really a lefty (the halcyon days when that was the benchmark, not the current one of how he would sell his grandmother if that would fill his campaign coffers more quickly). The commenter objecting to my evidence typed something to the effect that: If O had wanted to be rich, he could have had any corp law job he wanted instead of doing commun org.
Besides the incredible naivite of not knowing how rich ex-prez get, and the intoxication of getting to be king of the mountain…
…that comment is what got me thinking on the whole subject of how O got to be where he is & why in the world he ever did commun org. So it was a formative comment for me.
“Buuuuuulllll-Shit!”
That’s what I would have yelled if I’d been in the audience.
Yes, the asshole callously threw away a mandate to reverse Bush and instead chose to magnify and institutionalize the worst that Bush could dish up.
Give me anybody but this POS.
This is pathetic, really, really, really pathetic.
BTW—fine turn out at Occupy Portland today. Lots of people, different generations, all ready for real change.
Yeah…and those bankstahs who admitted in private emails they were selling “shitty deals” and yet they were telling the prospective buyer of the said deals that they were all AAA+ rated and were anything but that. Despite the fact that there was a guy who was involved in the deal who was handpicking the designated pieces of the deal and rigging the deal to fail so he could collect a gazillion dollar bundle when it failed cause that’s the bet he took…oh no that’s just another freakin loophole apparently….and oh no, no truth in advertising laws to see there.
And how about all those notes that never made it into the bundled securities investors were buying, all within the timeline and parameters of the law…ooops, just another loophole?
But gawd forbid you peaceably assemble and march in protest of the gov’t actions and failure, oh no, pepper spray and arrested for not walking on the sidewalk…Two effing America’s indeed.
Eff Pres Obama…he’s a 1%.
You know what he could have done that would have brought up his numbers astronomically. I would have loved for him to say, you know what, I fully agree, the bankstahs, lied, and cheated and swindled, and we have a legal system that will investigate fully to the letter of the law and prosecute them, and I welcome their hatred. They are very big and powerful and they can do me as the President an enormous amount of harm here…But I welcome this fight and their hatred. Bring it on Corporate 1% America! I am the 99%. (ok so I can dream)
Sigh…he’s not going to do that because he’s not in the 99%. He got bailed out and we got sold out! He will have his accountability moment very soon. Good Luck he’s gonna need it. He’s not on 99% side.
I think he’s actually worse than Shrub, OIG. Shrub was many things, most of them evil, but he sure as hell didn’t lie about his motives. Obama has lied about everything. He has done the complete opposite of what he said he would do. If Democrats actually care about the future of their party they will not show up to vote for him. No matter what batshit-crazy inbred calamity the Repubs nominate. Because if Obama wins in 2012 the Democratic Party will follow their “Leader” and dismantle what little remains of the Social Safety Net. And once that happens there will no longer be a Democratic Party.
Remember what we said about Bush? Worst. President. Ever.
Obama is Worse. Than. Bush.
<blockquoteOh yes, that must have been fun to watch. Haven’t watched MSNBC in months, turned in yesterday to Ed. Was hilarious watching him try to talk about how the crowd really echoed the Dem platform and they were Obama supporters.
Same deal with me. I clicked on his show on my way to the Nat Geo channel just long enough to see him try to use OWS as a reason to pass Zero’s jobs bill. What suck! As if a 2/10th of 1 percent improvement in unemployment was going to make a difference.
It’s no longer Ed Schultz, it’s Ed Shillz.
Dykan was just forced to apoligise to Ed on his show. sad to see dylan do that
You’re not surprised about Ed or Rachel, are you? Those people were put where they were for a purpose, pimping for O.
not surprised. In my over 20 years of working the basic theme haS been to interpret the law that gives the highest advantage. EVen when it is obvious what the intention of the law was the lawyers and professionals would look for flaws to interpret the law to their advantage.
Obama is President to protect Wall Street and banks from prosecution. Their money and his lies across the board put him there.
Not surprised at all. Gave up watching both of them long ago. (Around HCR time.) Like I said, I just happened by the segment. (Was on my way to the Nat Geo channel and thought maybe MSReElectZero might have some OWS vide up.)
The ugly truth is, this is the guy we need to get elected cause the other guy is a whole lot worse.
I need a hug.
I need a drug.
Never liked Ed. I found his demeanor offputting. I liked Rachel for awhile. Then it became obvious that she was an Obot, and incredibly incredibly incredibly repetitive, so I was just about ready to give up on her, when she went to Afghanistan, embedded, and got all gooey cutesy poo in her combat fatigues. After I cleaned up my vomit, that was the end of her for me.
What other guy and how is he worse?
It’s the cocktail hour. Martinis on offer.
‘Obama knows and the Dems in DC know, their political party is leaving them!’
Yup, and once that happens all the Dem Party {pimps} I mean leaders will be out of a job; if they can’t raise votes they are useless to the people who fund them; who happen to be much the same as the people who fund the other side.
the other guy will be any of the R(z) AND each and everyone will be a whole lot worse – even Rommney.
Naomi Klein at OWS upstairs. I’ve OD’d on Klein today, as she was on dn this morning & Brian Lehrer (wnyc) a bit later. Of course, I could listen for a third time to see if she’s gotten her sound bites all polished off.
(No insult to Klein intended. I often did 5 or 6 presentations in a day, sometimes 7 or 8, and each time I listened to myself & tried to say it better/cleverer/more convincingly the next time.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci9jA_4O3GI
The Ds in DC ain’t leaving O & the money making machine. They’re just trying to play both sides by jumping on the coat tails of OWS as faux populists.
Whomever bought these financial instruments that were AAA rated be they individuals or retirement funds should be able to recover from the ratings agencies. The ratings agencies, if they were duped, should be able to recover from whatever clever bankster asked for the rating and the individual homeowner, if he can prove the agent failed to disclose or misrepresented a material fact should be able to recover damages. So somewhere in there are millions of crimes that could be prosecuted if you figure each mortgage is a count. I know individuals are pursuing justice in the courts on their own so the Justice Department should be looking into it but they are not because they made a deal not to do anything. Did Obama say “After a thorough investigation the Justice Dept. has found that they did nothing illegal”. Can we see a report of the thorough investigation?
fuck 0bama. He is a duplicitous asshole…
What Obama didn’t say was that he could have avoided the blame for all of this by simply nationalizing the banks and prosecuting their decisionmakers. Of course he couldn’t do that, because they had bought him long, long ago.
The same for me. Agree about Maddow on all counts, esp. the repetitiveness, plus the Afghan embed thing was soooo nauseous. (And I have a strong stomach.)
Why bother to reply if you aren’t going to answer the question.
Obama intentionally threw away a mandate to reverse Bush and instead chose to magnify and institutionalize the worst that Bush could dish up.
It sounds like you are saying more of that is better than what an unknown Repub might try to do.
At least the Dems will have someone to posture against if a Repub gets elected.
((((BP))))
you people are being to hard on President Obama.
Being president is hard. And he’s done a lot of hard work over the last two years.
There’s a lot of really good people working hard. It’s hard work. But, again, I want to tell the American people, we’re doing everything we can.
whoops. wrong president. got them mixed up somehow or other.
Love your list of hortatories (aka “shoulds”).
Can you do that to a duplicitous asshole?
Bullshitter in Chief. I can’t wait until this clown disappears from the public stage.
Free Jeff Skilling.
I cannot disagree with you. Sad to say, a lot of the time W was a heckuva lot more transparent & up front about who he is/what he planned to do. I may’ve disliked him & his intentions, but in hindsight, I have to say: at least there were few surprises. Heck, when 9/11 happened, I knew almost instantly that we’d be at WAR, Inc in the ME in another month.
Obama? Well, I never believed much of what he said, but the incessant, continuous, ongoing LIES have really gotten to me, too. So. Sick. Of. Obama’s. CRAP. LIES.
The ONLY time Obama tells the truth and is genuine is when he’s DISSING us, the leftwingers. That’s it. So the fact that O stepped up and PRETENDED to be all “sympathetic-y” with OWS is even more sickening. I’m sure O is so totally sneering at OWS and looking down his grand fine nose at the trifling piffling peons have the nerve to question the Rulers of the Universe… yet more duplicitous deceit from O.
Can’t stand him; avoid watching or listening to him like the plague.
That’s so funny (in a gallows humor way).
In retrospect W was kinda cuddlish fun, esp to make fun of. O is just a bad humored cur of a central casting substitute for a human being.
What? Are you Jeff’s brother?
Exhume Ken Lay.
Yes, the PTB really *milked* the b.s. about Obama being Mr. Community Organizer… yet I could find precious little that really discussed what he did, what he accomplished during that phase of his life. I may have missed something, but it always seemed fishy to me.
Yet another “legend” created by the spooks. This dude just reaks CIA thru ‘n thru, don’t he? Legend after legend after legend…
O is rich beyond measure now, and even IF he did some “time” as a commun org, he got well paid for doing it by the MOTU.
Did I ever mention that I have for reelz met Skilling’s bro??
My heart goes out to you. But do tell. Sounds like a wunnerful story.
On edit: Skilling always had that deer-in-teh-headlights look after he got caught. Gotta hand it to him for that. Current crop of neer-do-wells don’t even have that going fer ‘um.
Maddow had her day, but she’s bogus nonsense by now. Too bad bc she is clearly bright, and on a good day, Maddow is very very good at explaining things clearly and concisely.
I got really really BORED and tired with the endlessly tedious mocking in an oh-so-aren’t-I-just-so-CLEVER way of the rightwing. Ye olde: look over there!!! They’re WORSE… and now: back to waving my pom-poms for the Big O.
I stopped watching MSNBC a long time ago… but like you, once in a while I catch a brief blip of one of them yabbering about something. Useless.
eCAHNomics, your knowledge base far outstrips mine so a reply would be appreciated. The 2 laws enacted by the Clinton-Gramms conspiracy may support Obamination’s claim. The Financial Services Modernization Act effectively repealed Glass/Steagall and allowed the merger of commercial and investment banking. The Commodities Futures Modernization Act allowed for lack of regulation and oversight of derivatives. Please let me know if my interpretations are incorrect or not. Thank you.
It’s one of those situations where I was having dinner with relatives of some very close overseas friends. And Mr. Skilling (forget his first name) was there w/his wife. Both very nice people, at least on the surface.
I felt constrained to say much due to circumstances, and then hadn’t see my BFF in ages and was consumed with the endless, breathless conversations we always have to attempt to catch and “cover” everything in the brief time we get to spend together.
The brief update is that Mr. S claimed that Jeff Skilling was really, truly “innocent” and that it was all Ken Lay’s doing. I can believe that up to a point, but not completely. Of course, I don’t think Lay ever “died.” Mr. S wouldn’t comment on whether he thought Lay really died or not… shied away from commenting on that.
That’s about as far as I got in terms of any real conversation. He was in the USA (lives abroad) to work on his brother’s defense. They did win some concessions for Jeff Skilling (if memory serves) but not what the full pardon that was hoped for.
An interesting evening…. as you can imagine.
Be careful watching NatGeo. I think it may be part of the Murdoch empire.
50-50 shot, I would think.
There is ALWAYS a hook to prosecute ‘immorality’, devastation and destruction on the level of the banksters.
Your do it because it is the most powerful disincentive; and the question of whether the behavior is illegal or or ‘just’ immoral is for the courts, for a jury, not for the president to preempt. If the president was serious, he would err on the side of getting tough, not making excuses.
Bears are Threat #1. ;-)
Sounds like one of those random wunnerful serendipity events that one never forgets.
I am assured by my very plugged in friend who lives in Houston that Lay is dead as a whatever. He knew he had heart disease (or whatever it was he died of) and never intended to live thru any prosecution.
My mother, much older than Lay when she died, also knew she had heart disease. She also allowed herself to die sooner than otherwise, had she availed herself of awful life-prolonging “treatment.” So I can imagine how Lay acted at the end: I’m gonna die anyway, so let it happen.
I don’t know enough about the repealed legislation to give a definitive A to your specific Q. But on many many grounds, there were crimes committed and there is NO rationalization for O’s claim.
If Eric Holder were truly independent and doing his job, he would have gone after the torturers. But he didn’t. Obama said not to. ‘Look to the future, not the past’. That much is known. So we have a history of the Administration giving the powerful a pass on criminal actions and it’s no surprise Obama is doing the same with Wall St. There are many patterns that one sees in Obama and the rest of his gang, enough so that their egregious behavior should not surprise anyone by now.
Obama is thrilled with OWS. It’s a harmless distraction. Now, if you were planning to occupy the caucuses and primaries, you’d have his attention.
The evening was interesting, albeit not as informative as one could have wished for.
Well you’re probably right about Lay, but it sure galls me how he got away with everyone’s money. That’s another one of those situations where the CROOK got away with it, including ripping me off… due to overcharging for elec. use in CA back in the early 2000s. Really caused some financial hardships for seniors & the working class (yeah: like Lay gave a sh*t about them). That’s why we ended up with Ahhhnold for Governator. The other Gov, Gray Davis, who got kicked out by known-crook Daryll Issa, was just about to go after Lay/Enron for the money that they stole from CA.
And then Ahhhhnold was recruited by the TX money-boys. Ahhhnold, like Obama, is a big fat liar (no surprises there) and said that he was so rich that he was “beholden to no one.” Yeah right, Ahhhnold: pull the other one. I’m sure that Ahhhnold was highly compensated for refusing to go after Lay/Enron… I sure wasn’t!
Still am unconvinced that O knows what OWS is.
But that aside, no chance of invading convention, unlike 68. Them were the days.
Caucuses & primaries with a sitting prez rerunning. I think not.
Nixon’s ghost for president!
perhaps true, albeit, believe me, he thoroughly looks down on the peons with arrogant disdain.
Useful? Maybe. But I’m sure it GALLED HRH Obama to have to even acknowledge them with something that looked like sympathy.
Granted,Romney is garbage,but resistance will geometrically snowball with him.With Obama we have the worst of both worlds,with a pub against whom all dissent is squelched.We already know the progressive/Black caucus would throw everyone under the bus rather than stand up to Obama and his zeal for shredding the safety net.I could never vote for either of these gangsters,and I really don’t give a fuck who wins.The future will evolve from Occupy Wall St. and we can all be part of it.
Did you see that Ahhhmold had commissioned 8′ statues of hisself at peak bodybuilder stature at $100,000 per to “erect” who knows where. I don’t have a link as usual but it showed up in sumptin like rawstory in the last couple of months.
Dear Barack,
Shut the FU*K up.
‘Loopholes’ ? Loopholes big enough to drive the economy through and crash it? Those are some major loopholes. O ‘worked to close’ the loopholes?
‘s anybody know if he succeeded? I mean, are they closed now, or not? It’s sort of important, you know.
Loopholes. That guy is so lame and so weak.
“How could anyone vote for BO and be able to look at themselves in the mirror?”
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
I won’t get fooled again.
((((Mary!!))))
LOL… figures! Goes with his erect ego, I’m sure. What a creep of epic proportions and a total waste of time as governator. Ptoui! The only semi-decent things that happened during his Admin was stuff that Maria did, as you can imagine.
I never ever could figure out what Maria SAW in him… like: ICK! His reputation was a huge KNOWN quantity out here… the gropinator is putting it mildly.
Having a kid under your wife’s nose with the live-in housekeeper (I don’t care about her status or job, just the proximity thing is horrid)… SHEESH!!! Egad. One can “get” what it was all about for the hou$ekeeper, but seriously??? What a slime. yetch
I voted for O just bc, in case I was wrong about how bad he was, I could tell my (nonexistent) grandchildren that I voted for the first black prez.
About as good a reason for voting for a prez as any you’ll ever get, i.e. no good reason to vote for any of the curs at all.
I agree with your assessment of Obama and I think that fraud was committed, but Sen. Dorgan was one of only 8 senators to vote against this legislation and predicted the implications of enacting these laws would be an economic catastrophe within 10 years. My limited knowledge in.re. these two laws was derived from Robert Scheer’s book on the subject.I may be one of the few people that actually listened to the Obamaspew during his campaign for head puppet and didn’t vote for him.
Yeah, but he still has to get nominated by folks at the caucuses and primaries. All he’s seeing is that we don’t have the discipline to oppose him there. The worst he has to fear is that with all the energy in the streets, there won’t be any energy to back his campaign. He should worry about that.
Ah. The O-Team springs into action:
Feds order [CA] pot shops to close within 45 days
LINK.
Maria knew all about that, I’m sure. No evidence whatsoever, except the general principle that those things don’t happen without the lil wifey fully knowledgeable, esp in those circles. Made me think a lot less of her for going along with it.
I listened to the Obamaspew and was underwhelmed. I confess that Henry Kissinger “got” me by pushing the Quitter Grifter on the ReTHUG ticket. I have to say: I mostly voted AGAINST Palin.
Like eCAHN, I “dug” the idea of an AA POTUS, but that was not the motivating factor for my mis-cast (and much regretted) ballot cast for this LYING THEIF. sigh… it is what it is. wouldn’t have been any better with McCain, and we would’ve had to listen to that nails-on-chalk-board screech of Bible Spice all of the time. Cold comfort but glad not to have *endure* Caribou Barbie… another big: yetch.
What a broken & dysfunctional system, to say the least.
Agree completely.
Wh is why I think OWS has to get a lot bigger or a lot nastier to have any influence on future of U.S. at all.
Or, as I would channel Howard Zinn, it takes a gargantuan effort by the many to take a baby step against the few, who have all the power & all the money.
probably right, and I also lost regard that she waited until Ahhhnold’s term was ovah to “suddenly” find out about his adultry. seemed a little too convenient, if ya asks me. too bad; maria seemed ok, but perhaps not so much… they are all corrupted by money and power.
agree. but at least the ball is rolling, and my hope is that it keeps on going. this is a good start, but that’s all it is. OWS gotta keep on keeping on and keep on being in their nasty faces and keep on being THERE. Cannot stop or it’s ovah!
Agreed. Also heard she was having an affair, will not name names, early on in her marriage.
Just to go “on record”. We (guys) had a meeting and schtupping the maid is NOT acceptable unless your maid is Scarlett Johansson or Charlize Theron.
We kicked Ahnold out of the club.
Actually, if you look at Romney’s record and Obama’s record, I would say Romney’s is better. Or Obama’s is worse, however you want to phrase it. I think it’s a smart thing to look at the historical record, where it exists, and not rely on just campaign rhetoric.
So this will be O’s legacy in history. Cancer & AIDS patients dying of chronic wasting syndrome when they could have lived full lives if they’d had bit of weed.
That guy is beneath contempt.
now, now… that’s being a tad rude, but I’ll let it “pass” this time… but ONLY for you, newcarguy… ;-)
Whaaa, chu sum kinda racissss huh. /s
yes.
The mj situation is yet another one those convenient distractions in Obama’s Kabuki Show of tricks.
A complete utter waste of time AND tax dollars!!! But GOPers can be relied on to *agree* to waste tax dollars on stupid mj prosecutions just because…. just like they agree to piss away MY money on WAR Inc.
sheesh… beyond annoying
He has a penchant for sexist comments. Got in 2 yesterday, not that I’m counting.
hmmmmm…. not great… take care…. ncg…
EXACTLY my experience too. But I do have Rachel to thank for having Jane Hamsher on her show. I remember the first time I saw Jane, a few years ago, I was so impressed that I grabbed my camera and took a picture of the tv screen so I could followup, and that’s how I came here.
Hey I’m outta here kidz. Gotta fly. Been fun nattering with you miscreants. Be kind to one another.
Keep the faith. Pass the biscuits. Keep on trucking. Power to the People (now: guess my age… har).
loopholes?
frozen O rings
Methinks there is no loophole
except miniscule loopholes of integrity
best viewed with the best extant microscope
the whole system is a criminal endeavor
Its legal henchmen
the whole judicial system
its money rides on
deathdebthence death
De system de system
ersatz corinthian leather
propellant gas de mal
heh… well there is THAT. I didn’t see a photo of Jane on RM’s show, but I confess that it WAS (you reminded me) RM who mentioned FDL on her show a coupla years ago, which is what led me here… as I had figured out by then that Markos Moulitsas was CIA, etc.
So: yeah, gotta hand RM a few props, but not so much anymore.
I appreciate that. But I was just “reporting” the news.
NO way………..Just one.
Just one.
that cannabis remedy must really work;
this is the only reason his bosses in pharmaceutical business would make him do this.
what a putrid move.
Yes I think he should ask for Holder’s resignation. NOW!
There was a time (I’d say late ’09, maybe early ’10) when Keith was too focused on Us-vs-Them D-vs-R headcounting and Rachel would, occasionally, go off message and ask what the real agenda was, why Obama wasn’t pushing harder. I can’t even remember the issues, but I do know that she seemed the less co-opted of the two.
Of course that changed, and Phil Griffin decided that she could stay and be a good little O-bot, coming on right after “European Socialist” Larry O’Donnell explains that the peasants Just Don’t Understand How Things Are Done in Washington.
Poor Rachel. Sigh.
Hey, when you’re responsible for so many deaths (whether straight-up murders like Awlaki or indirect destruction like the families ruined by mortgage fraud), what’s a few thousand more, really? There’s no depths this guy can’t descend to.
The Austerity of Hope!
Precisely the thing I would expect a Republican to do.
Obama chooses what laws to enforce or not. That he chooses to go after pot smokers, ignoring the majority of the country’s views, supporting the whole prison industry and Pharma, is so typical and telling of his priorities. The whole war on drugs has been, and still is, an incredible waste of money and resources.
Obama wasn’t forced to do this. He chose to.
Okay, if the banks did nothing illegal, then let’s call the United States what it really is: a crime syndicate.
The banks are still insolvent and will collapse. All we’re going to have to show for it is a wrecked Main St economy and exploding Federal debt. Running the banks through a BK resolution process was the right thing to do then and is even more the right thing to do now. All we managed to do is dig a deeper hole for the rest of us, and throw trillions of of our taxpayer dollars down a rathole.
As for all of the fraud and corruption that has been uncovered, Obama looks like a fool to stand there and pretend none of that happened. I’ve got a co-worker that is trying to buy a house only to find out that they cannot close because the banks improperly conveyed the title through MERS. Last estimate I saw was 40% of the titles in the US for ALL people (including people not even in foreclosure) are screwed up because MERS bypassed the legal process.
Is this guy a tool or what? My gripe is with the pinheads who pushed this guy for the nimination in 2008. The morning after and buyers’ remorse have been monstrous. He is sooo out of his league. He remains a small change Chicago hack. He’ll put the presidency on his resume and go back to making speeches and appearing on talk radio for big bucks. That’s his speed. Morality, legality and leadership not so much.
It does indeed.
they can’t stop
us
bluntly put.
prohibition didn’t float
but a bunch of Gar Wood boats
Now we have whole neighborhoods
green thumbed
farmers all and good
growing futures money
with psychedelic honey
Ypu got that right. The process has produced foreclosure default mills that can’t survive legal challenge. Most AGs want to call them inadvertent and look the other way to the detriment of distressed homeowners, some of whom have been robbed of their property without due process. (Constitution anybody?). New York isathe first of a growing pushback. It’s part of the OccupyWallStreet movement. Success has to bypass Nobama and his team of tools.
Sad to say is it not. I am guilty of thinking that his words were backed by honor……busted.
trudging the happy road of destiny has been a walk in a minefield.
Obama always knows which side his bread is buttered.
We all need to learn that sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship from these savvy businessmen.
Sheesh, he’s so bad he’s got pundits like mushy Millbank saying about him “If he has a fire in his belly, he’s taking a lot of antacid.” He’s even putting the pundit class to sleep.
Very well said, defogger!
and to those commenting on the horrors of Ed & Rachel, try listening to Stephanie Miller and her gang on the radio. They’re no different than the pinheads on Fox except for posing as progressives – the same endless lame jokes, maddening crosstalk, smugness, and LOTS of Obama defending – still! I rarely bother with MSNBC OR radio windbags like Randi Rhodes & Thom Hartman who mainly like the sound of their own voices; best to read the blogs to find out what’s really happening and get some useful ideas.
They should be erected upside down with the head buried in the ground. Maria would appreciate that.
Fascist Zero strikes again. Bankster fraud does not exist, we are to blame for the fraud they perpetuated on us. Eat your peas, peons. Accept the new normal. You will never have a job. Be patient, help is coming when hell freezes over. This is just a slow patch. Prosperity is right around the corner. Things take time. It’s complicated.
But if you go to Harvard, and cheat your way to a degree and then run for political office you might stand a chance of making a good living. So what’s wrong with you? Go get that Harvard degree, lie, cheat, accept legalized bribes from corporations, that’s how it’s done. And while you are at it launch drone strikes on hapless Third World countries, bomb them back into the Stone Age, occupy them, murder their families, it’s fun! It shows you are a big man, a man with balls! Balls with hair on them. It’s like playing Angry Birds it’s so much fun! The people you incinerate show up as little balls of fire! Wow! I gotta tell my frat buddies about this, it’s too cool! Sorry, just channelling a little Zero here.
I mean to attach my comment to #150 – whoops. Love your last line about the future. I’m very encouraged also by OWS and believe a surprisingly broad coalition will form that will include even the wayward, Koch-bankrolled tea partiers… not to mention all the libertarians. Onward!
Poor Obama! Oh I feel so sorry for him! He has no power to do anything for the people, but plenty to help the banks rob us and escape justice. He can order assassinations, bomb people in other countries, and give billions of our tax dollars to corporations, he can give billions of our tax dollars to nation build Afghanistan after he’s destroyed it with our bombs and perpetual war, yeah, I feel real sorry for poor powerless Obama. Let me lean over and puke in my trashcan. And pretend it’s Obama.
Tool and a fool. But really much worse than that. He’s a crook and a murderer. A fascist warmonger who hates the American people, in fact all people who are not part of his elite political class.
Tell me the best legal minds in the US government didn’t see this coming for the past decade? They weren’t aware of the loopholes? Loopholes–inherent crime.
Seems both parties hate us. I can’t believe some of the things I have heard recently. Where did all of this hatred come from? Hatred of older Americans, hatred of Blacks and Latinos, hatred of the educational system………I could go on and on. The species is cracked.
The loop holes were placed there to be worked.
They shouldn’t hold there breath to long waiting cause he made it clear today they broke NO LAWS. Which translated means, “We don’t need no stinkin laws!”
So called ‘Progressive Radio’ is nothing more than a Democratic placebo. No matter what Obama does, Miller, Schultz, Hartmann, etc. will loyally voice the Obot (DKos) response.
And to think that Stephanie was funny and cogent during the Bush years.
A follow-up question (but only in an alternate universe) might have been, “Mr President, how is it that your Justice Department is moving heaven and earth to find something…anything…criminal to charge Wikileaks and Julian Assange with (in the face of your assurances that they are, in fact, criminals), and yet no such actions are being taken with regard to the bankers? Are there massive investigations and grand-juries we don’t know about? Are Swedish rape charges pending against Jamie Dimon?”
I expended a lot of political capital to keep the banks afloat…
That he did, that he did…! 8-(
He’s just Exhibit A of his educated generation. Me first. A smirky attitude toward the constitution and the concept of democracy. A user of the system for personal gain. He is a tool of stronger evils. He took this job with the thought that others would do it and he would just sign off. His first defense is to talk about how this and that is the job of some cabinet flunky (Holder, e.g.). Teasury, defense, all someone else’s problem. He’s just the president. Make a speech and go away. He’s a murderer by proxy. He has no opinion and never has. He just takes opinions and goes away. His law students said he never expressed any view, only solicited others. In Congress he never stuck his neck out. He went along and voted for the creidit company exemtion from bankruptcy protection; for the FISA wiretapping law; didn’t return to vote on SCHIP. Never published anything while a law professor.(NO fingerprints or no opinion?). A go along to get along state senator handed the US Senate without opposition. A lightweight. An enthusiastic Wall Street tool with all it means. He’s everything bad, by proxy.
Harmless distraction, greenbell? In my son’s inimitable intonation (but I’ll try hard to copy it) I think not!
You see, what the incredible Occupy Everywhere movement is making visible to Obama and to the 99% who now rejoice in it is the vibrant, lovable, creative energy that went into his very own campaign – he sees that too and he doesn’t find it harmless, oh no. That energy went away in 2010, and Republicans licked their chops and made their way into the venerable halls of governance.
It went away, but it didn’t disappear. The young people, (and us oldies) didn’t give up and turn up their toes – they kept on talking on forums such as these (thank you, Steve Jobs; you were a mixed bag like Dostoievski’s devil). And now they are putting a new face on the energy Obama co-opted but did not defeat, in order to take back democracy’s power.
It does seem to me now that there is no chance, no chance at all, that this marvellous energy will allow itself to be co-opted again. No way! They already know to work outside the system – they’ve had to. And they ARE the ones who will help us change it, of that I feel very sure. There’s more of them than ‘bots voting for either party, and we shall support them! We shall support them all the more if the 1% decide to oppress them.
Now folk who might dismiss and say, well, if you choose other than the two evils you are throwing your vote away – look out there at these brave people standing up for democracy, for your right to choose according to merit, to be educated, to have healthcare, to eat healthful food and to live in a healthy environment! They have opened the conversation to things that really matter, not just what suits the rich. They have broadened our horizons beyond the blackberry or the android thingie. The energy of the 2008 campaign still exists, and by heaven there are even more of them now!
We are so very much in their debt. All that Obama values, poor fool, is the velvet plush straightjacket he thinks is his ticket to paradise. Nothing illegal? Then the laws have been corrupted! Because we the 99% KNOW that crimes have been committed. Mr. Obama, the chasm between morality and legality has never been wider, and that, sir, you did not bother to change when you had the opportunity to do so. I think you must know in your heart that it is too late now. Too late for you, that is. But not too late for us.
Maybe if we planted some pot on the banksters?
Nah, they can even get away with THAT horrific crime.
Oh, I think Obama is marginally better – and a whole lot worse.
He’s better because he has done a (very) few good things like taking the banks out of the school loan process.
But he’s worse, because no rethug could have gotten away – especially with a Dem majority in both houses of congress – with a lot of the Rethug stuff he has done. There would have been more Dem pushback.
Thanks julianna. I would be one of the old guys…well said.
The Fed Chief, the Treasury Sec. the White House including Obama are at the pinnacle of the Oligarchy.
They will never understand the protests, they are creating them!!!
very well said
nice poem, going to copy it.
Just another case of liar, liar pants on fire. Financial reform bill, now there’s a farce if I ever saw one. Close the loopholes? My ass. How about make them worse? That’s a typical Abomination ‘accomplishment’.
Feel free to. All words have weight and consequence. As long as we stay free, clear, and resonate.
You bet he is: The amount of money he is getting from Wall Street for his 2012 reelection is greater, both in raw number and in percentage, than in 2008.
Alas for him, the simple fact is that he uttered one of the biggest lies of his presidency. He OUGHT TO KNOW that robosigning is just another name for systemic document forgery.
He will pay dearly for his “Look Forward, Not Back!” doctrine.
I think Obama and his advisors THINK he can win re-election IF he has enough money to spend. I disagree. I don’t think ANY amount of money can buy him another 4 years after all the people he has alienated and disenfranchised. Waaaay too many people I know feel “What have we got to lose with Romney?”
Remember Firdoggers Obanksta has the royal bloodlines. As I have stated many times, Bush and Cheney’s distant cousin will not do anything to upset his filthy rich masters.
I think Bloomberg is being disingenuous. He says he’s going to cut jobs if the protests keep up? He’ll do it anyway! He cut the NYPD force, and he’s also cutting a vital rent subsidy program that is vital for keeping tens of thousands of recently homeless people in their own homes.
I think he was just going to cut those jobs anyway. I also think he’s just looking for excuses, convenient scapegoats. All he seems to is cut everything, from jobs to vital social safety nets.
It’s going to take a lot of movement on this subject (and a couple of others) for me to vote for Obama next year. Heck, now that we’ve had a black President, now we can move on to the first Mormon one.