Ezra Klein has a very long kind of apologia of the political class (or rather, he’s bringing to light an apologia from the political class) for why they failed to return the nation to prosperity after the financial crisis and Great Recession of 2008. I think the article is very good in capturing a point of view of the Administration and its defenders and their litany of excuses.
Basically, it adds detail to the Reinhart and Rogoff analysis of their book “This Time is Different,” which argues that financial crises follow similar paths and take long periods of time to climb out of, partly because of predictable failures of politics. There was also a failure of forecasting, as the Bureau of Economic Analysis underestimated the level of the recession by an almost-incredible amount, which led to the underwhelming and insufficient response.
There’s a lot to talk about in the article, including the fact that policymakers like Tim Geithner foresaw the bad politics that came with the necessary policies proceeding financial crises – the entire point of the story – and said at the time that they would “take pain now against pain later,” which they subsequently completely failed to do. But since I’ve focused so much on housing for the past couple years, I thought I would confine myself to that part of the story.
It’s become clear that we’re in something of a balance sheet recession, and that massive debt relief is a key to stronger growth. Of course, debt relief is implicitly tied to mortgage debt. And yet, the housing policies that would have brought this debt relief completely failed. Why? Here’s Ezra:
Today, few on the Obama team will mount much of a defense of its housing policy.
Its efforts to heal the troubled market at the core of the financial crisis are widely considered weak and ineffective. The Home Affordable Modification Program, which proposed to pay mortgage servicers to renegotiate with financially stressed homeowners, couldn’t persuade the servicers to play ball and so has left most of its $75 billion unspent. The Home Affordable Refinance Program was projected to help 5 million underwater homeowners. It has reached fewer than 1 million.
Even so, the administration rejects the more radical solutions that are occasionally floated. The problem, it says, is that the choices are mostly between timid and unworkable.
There are two problems floated here. One is that the Federal Housing Finance Agency is controlled by a Bush Administration appointee, and that this stopped the agency from allowing Fannie and Freddie to do refinancing for underwater borrowers, or more important, principal reductions. First of all, DeMarco has been an acting director of FHFA since all the way back in 2009; the White House has had two years to replace him. Their initial replacement wasn’t named until late 2010 (well after the conclusion of the 60-vote Democratic Senate), and Senate Republicans blocked the appointment. The term “recess appointment,” which Obama could make any time he wants, is operative here. So is the fact that Treasury put DeMarco in place and they can take him out, as a collection of House Oversight Committee Democrats demanded late in the week. The fact that there’s no refinancing plan two months after the President announced it in his American Jobs Act address before Congress is reason enough for dismissal.
DeMarco, acting director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA) — an agency independent of the White House — met Thursday with 17 House Democrats in the Capitol, ostensibly to brief them on FHFA’s enhanced efforts to help struggling homeowners. Instead, he revealed that the agency doesn’t yet have such a plan.
“I said to him twice, ‘Mr. DeMarco, if you cannot do this job — or if you don’t feel like you’re capable of helping the people that we represent — maybe you should move to the side and let somebody else come and replace you,’” Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) told reporters after the meeting. “That’s just fair.” [...]
“Either do something or get out of the way,” Cardoza said. “And if you’re incapable of doing it, then find somebody who isn’t.”
But even an FHFA regulator dedicated to improving the situation for homeowners would not have helped, according to Ezra’s narrative.
But when talking about what might have worked on a massive, economy-wide scale — that is to say, what might have made this time different — you’re talking about something more drastic. You’re talking about getting rid of the debt. To do that, somebody has to pay it, or somebody has to take the loss on it.
The most politically appealing plans are the ones that force the banks to eat the debt, or at least appear to do so. “Cramdown,” in which judges simply reduce the principal owed by underwater homeowners, works this way. But any plan that leads to massive debt forgiveness would blow a massive hole in the banks. The worry would move from “What do we do about all this housing debt?” to “What do we do about all these failing banks?” And we know what we do about failing banks amid a recession: We bail them out to keep the credit markets from freezing up. There was no appetite for a second Lehman Brothers in late 2009.
Which means that the ultimate question was how much housing debt the American taxpayer was willing to shoulder. Whether that debt came in the form of nationalizing the banks and taking the bad assets off their books — a policy the administration estimated could cost taxpayers a trillion dollars — or simply paying off the debt directly was more of a political question than an economic one. And it wasn’t a political question anyone really knew how to answer.
On first blush, there are few groups more sympathetic than underwater homeowners or foreclosed families. They remain so until about two seconds after their neighbors are asked to pay their mortgages. Recall that Rick Santelli’s famous CNBC rant wasn’t about big government or high taxes or creeping socialism. It was about a modest program the White House was proposing to help certain homeowners restructure their mortgages. It had Santelli screaming bloody murder.
Let’s set aside this alibi of “bad politics” and look at the facts here. The Administration set aside $75 billion through TARP for HAMP, and to date have used $1.6 billion or so on a program that is effectively irrelevant at this point (and they have cleverly revised history to claim that it was only a $50 billion allotment, to make this look a little better). Without any need to clear Congress, the Administration had all the authority they needed to put this $75 billion to work, including the ability to punish servicers who failed to comply with guidelines. They didn’t have to design the program as voluntary on the part of the banks to begin with.
Then, for two years, Treasury swore up and down there was nothing they could do to punish servicers who didn’t comply. Finally, a few months ago, they started withholding incentive payments for noncompliance, as if they just magically acquired the power. It turns out, as Paul Kiel from Pro Publica displayed in a story this week, that Treasury wasn’t even checking on servicer compliance for at least the first year of the program. AG Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada is suing Bank of America in part for claiming to work with borrowers on loan modifications while foreclosing on them at the same time. This is well within the Justice Department’s purview if they chose to use the authority, and at the least, Treasury could force compliance with their own contracts.
If the theory is that no bank would agree to the terms of the contracts if they included the ability to be punished, then there’s certainly ways to use the full $75 billion rather than 2-3% of it by simply increasing the incentives to reverse the clear incentives by mortgage servicers to foreclose, or by using the funds entirely on third-party counseling and mediation programs, which have been massively more successful on the local level than anything from HAMP.
The truth that emerges from all of these facts is that the Administration had no interest whatsoever in using more than a token amount of the TARP authority they had already husbanded for mortgage relief and foreclosure mitigation. They wanted to run, and did run, an extend and pretend scheme, a form of predatory lending, to squeeze out additional payments from borrowers on whom banks would eventually foreclose. The one fly in this ointment is that the banks had no way to prove ownership of the underlying loans. If they didn’t break the residential housing market in this fashion, that would have “worked,” to the detriment of millions of homeowners whose life savings were taken away to prop up zombie banks.
You can call this the function of bad politics, but I’d say it was more an extension of bank policy, a policy to preserve the wonderful sub-1 percent growth and still-vulnerable financial system we have going for ourselves. The shell-shock that comes from Rick Santelli’s proto-Tea Party rant happening to be about mortgages, as if the Tea Party wouldn’t have started from Obama bowing to the wrong leader or the auto bailout or the first details of health care or literally anything else, is the ultimate in Democratic Party fatalism tinged with a total misdirection, as if the touchy politics was the reason to design a predatory lending scheme for banks to get well off their own customers.
Even today there are programs that could be scaled up to work for the mass of homeowners. They aren’t being done not because of some Tea Party-fueled backlash, but because Wall Street would face trouble. If you actually took seriously the fact that 60 million mortgages have no reliable chain of ownership, that litigation will drain the banks for the next decade or more and make it impossible for them to retain anything approaching a level of strength, that this was all known based on the fabrication of mortgage documents as far back as 2003 according to a FHFA IG report this week, then you as a policymaker might not work so hard to preserve such an industry.
The idea that policymakers are protecting banks from insolvency on the grounds that it’s cheaper to preserve the shitty economy banks are helping to provide, millions of people be damned, stands as a pretty good reason why thousands of people are occupying public spaces all over the country right now, to protest the corrupt partnership of finance and government, at their expense.





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Excellent post. Retweeted.
David,
Thank you for spending the last couple of years following, and writing about, the housing market! Were it not for your reporting (along with the other dedicated writers here and elsewhere), I would have been homeless a year ago. Because of your writing and the links you post to other sites, I’ve been able to assist my attorney in defending my case against GMAC’s bought attorney to the extent that we are now getting it punted a few more months at every status hearing. Now if we could just get the Republican judge to stop working for the banks and start finding for the homeowners with punitive damages for fraud!
What a wonderful tribute! Best of luck to you, and congratulations on a struggle well-waged.
Wow, chicagogal. Hang in there, and the very best of luck to you.
The problem is not getting principal reductions. As alleged in many lawsuits including from the Attorney General’s of AZ and NV they are committing consumer fraud by doing all they can to foreclose (with high servicer fees) vs doing HAMP mods even without principal reductions.
For about 70% of 1st the taxpayer takes the huge foreclosure losses via the GSE’s while the banks keep making all their servicing fees and no loss on foreclosures.
As detailed in the AG lawsuits and many other the bank lose required paperwork even sent in by AG and Congressional offices and then claim the homeowner isn’t sending in documents. This is total fraud by the banks as well as many lies about reasons for denials, false income info so will fail the Net Present Value test etc.
At least 4 Congressional hearings in 2009-2010 made this clear and now the detailed consumer fraud lawsuits including by State AG’s.
Truly superb post, DDay.
You have clearly laid out the collusion between the banks and the government … regardless of whether that “government” is Democrat or Republican. The fundamental function of American federal government, today, is simply to protect the interests of the elite, regardless of the cost and destruction for everyone else. Period.
I hope this post may be front-paged, it certainly deserves to be. Indeed, it deserves the widest circulation possible …
DDay, your work in covering this “crisis” and in educating the public as to its reality and dire implications, also deserves great appreciation and distinct recognition.
Thank you.
DW
The big banks are still sucking the lifeblood from our economy, the European economy and the rest of the world. They don’t even own the underlying assets – houses – that they are illegally foreclosing on – and most of those mortgages were fraudulent anyway. Let them fail!
Klein’s article ignores the only workable solution thus:
The Fed has taken trillions in bad paper from those banks at 100 cents on the dollar – with more to come as all the fraud and stupidity continues to unwind over decades, eventually beggering all but the Wall Street Fatcats – if we continue to allow it to happen.
What is the alternative? The same now as it was when I wrote a series of not well-received Diaries at Daily Kos and proposed then.
I pointed out that the credit crunch for main street would continue (it has) and proposed that the 700 billion (for TARP) be used instead to capitalize a national bank. With fractional reserve lending, that would equal 7 trillion available to consumers and small business for loans. This bank could be further capitalized by the sale of stock – up to 49% of equity. This bank (if well run) would actually return a profit to taxpayers while loosening the stranglehold of those banking behemoths and ending the credit crunch.
When the first vote for TARP failed Representative DeFazio – one of the few good guys in congress – proposed something similar: essentially that the Federal Government use existing facilities to make consumer and business loans.
Rep DeFazio got about the same reception in congress that my diaries did at the OS – ridicule and hostility.
Eventually we will adopt such a solution – or we will sit by impotently as the banks suck the last drop of lifeblood from our economies.
Thanks, David. I am so very tired of the lies perpetuated by the MOTU and the MOTWH. Assholes. While people suffer so much. These elites must be psychopaths. The don’t care. It’s clear now that the president lies when he says he cares, too. Especially on the campaign trail.
Go 99%ers, everywhere!
Excellent post! Thanks!!!
Ezra Klein makes my skin crawl…and his new hair style makes him look more creepy than authoritative.
ezra klein lives on planet dc
obama did what he wanted to do
read suskind’s book, read it carefully, and you’ll see where, in passing, jamie dimon says obama is right of center and where various pols say obama is a centrist
it was no accident that obama picked summers, geithner, emanuel and bernanke and it was no accident that he ignored progressive economists like romer
obama is a right wing ideologue, a committed neoliberal
one good moment: after romer met eliz warren to vet her (for the job obama wouldn’t nominate her for), romer said to warrren: why is that women are the only ones with balls around here?
Eric Holder makes me nostalgic for the good old days of John Mitchell (and his dingbat wife). However crooked Mitchell might have been, at least we got a little bit of comedy respite out of the deal…
Evidently the decision was made to let the banks try to work off the bad loans. It will take years to do this and during this time there will be much uncertainty for which business and the economy will suffer. Such is the stuff of balance sheet recession/depresssion. And now we are into following the Austerian eocnomists view that pain is good for us. Let the unemployed eat cake. Who gives a shit about the 25 million unemployed. Those unemployed people and the housing crisis are intimately connected. Those at OWS sense this. And they also know it is Obama who stood behind this shitty plan.
And now Romer is my new hero!
{I need a new one each week … it seems.}
she’s right, too
brooksley born, another legitimate heroine who clinton’s boys — summers, greesnpan and rubin — demonized
the old boys club really is almost all boys, it seems
Thank you so much for this great analysis. Ezra is such a sell out to the Administration. Its good to have data like this article provides to rebut his false claims and spin. Thank you.
Betty White wants to know why people say “grow a pair” when someone needs to get tough. Balls are weak and sensitive, she says. If you really want to get tough, grow a vagina. They can really take a pounding!
OK I don’t know if she really said this or not, but my computer says she did, so it must be true!
I don’t know how we can expect people who make money off debt to help people get out of debt. Or to stop “selling” more debt. They are all thieves.
LOL. That be truth, whoever says it!
And, yup, the banksters are thievers.
It appears obvious that Obama et al were only interested in bailing out the banks and big corporations. The banksters obviously convinced him NOT to bail out the general public at THEIR expense. Waaaay too much of the money INTENDED to relieve the malaise inflicted on the country has sat idle, apparently intentioanlly, on the part of the Obama administration. That’s why he will not get my vote again, probably, no matter what.
Did Timmy have something to do with this??? Or did Obama just sell out to the banksters? I think yes.
There is “truthiness” in your statement.
according to suskind, very early on obama instructed geithner to prepare plans to wind down citigroup but geithner ignored the instructions
apparently, this happened often and, eventually, summer began mocking obama’s ineptitude and incompetence
also, suskind reports re that first meeting obama had with the banksters in march 09: says the banksters were terrfied of obama and what he would demand; then obama asks what the banskters what he can do to help them; after that, suskind cutely says, the banksters “shorted” obama; obama’s presidency effectively ended right then
pretty good book, very easy read
“The idea that policymakers are protecting banks from insolvency on the grounds that it’s cheaper to preserve the shitty economy banks are helping to provide, millions of people be damned, stands as a pretty good reason why thousands of people are occupying public spaces all over the country right now, to protest the corrupt partnership of finance and government, at their expense.”
Amen!
These are only sympathetic in the abstract. At some point somebody actually has to answer the question of why anybody should get their mortgage principal forgiven simply because they are behind on a mortgage they probably shouldn’t have taken out in the first place when there are plenty of people who did not succumb to the temptation of taking on obligations (debt or rent) they couldn’t afford. Even though I’m not underwater, my house has fallen in value too. Why shouldn’t I get a break on my mortgage too? Why should I be penalized for being financially prudent?
wbgonne has it right. Obama is right of center, and as we all know the center has moved to the right over the last 20 years. Obama said last week that the banks did nothing illegal; they are just in the business of making money. So is the Mafia. Romer also has it right. With the exception of Alan Grayson and Bernie Sanders, those IN POWER, speaking truth to power are WOMEN: Born, Romer, and Warren. I would urge readers to go to some very good economists who are doing the same: James Kwak, Simon Johnson, Michael Hudson, Joseph Stiglitz, Jamie Galbraith, Paul Krugman, Rodger Mitchell (rodgermmitchel.wordpress.com), Karl Smith (modeledbehavior.com), Warren Mosler (moslereconomics.com), and occasionally Yves Smith (nakencapitalism.com). These are economists who are not fans of the comedy team of Geithner and Summers. They acknowledge the financial stranglehold of Wall Street and the banks on Congress; they see the federal government as the only source of rescue for the troubled economy — and despair of that political impossibility. They are not necessarily Obama fans either. Nearly all of them have been quite critical of Obama’s continual compromises and weakness. James Kwak has been a prolific writer who blogs almost daily, and he is a very good read.
We are still getting our information/coverage through a media that is corporate owned and will filter the facts through a prism that leans to the $$$$$$. That is , Newscorp, Disney, Warner, Comcast and GE
It was interesting to see that Jesse La Greca’s smackdown of Fox and yesterday’s smackdown of the ABC pundits was totally ignored by huffpo.
Mrs. greenspan had pat buchanan and jennifer palmeri on this morning and she let buchanan go off half cvocked about the ‘anarchists in seattle’, and OWS was just like it. He then cited the brooklyn bridge thing and the Air/Spasce Museum kerfuffle this weekend. Neither greenspan or palmeri countered with the fact the Air Space Museum thing was instigated by an editor from the ‘american spectator.
http://spectator.org/blog/2011/10/08/standoff-in-dc
The media easily frames the argument as one about ‘obscene profits..
Referring just to ‘profits’ gives the corporatists an argument that we oppose ‘capitalism, as opposed to crime.
The dilemma for most in the media that may have a problem with the criminality is the fact the lack of prosecution is sanctioned by the white house and ‘implemented’ by DOJ.
On the right they are quite happy for the dearth of prosecutions and will continue to call the president a socialist. On the left, maddow, o’donnell, sharpton, perry and schultz are muzzled by the fact the president they are loyal to is an accomplice to what the corporations and financials are doing, and the network they work for was owned and and is partially owned by GE.
When the president repeated his ‘awful but not illegal’ defense last week it rang as hollow as bush saying there are WMD’s somewhere or ‘we don’t torture’.
The absolute root of what is wrong is the fact that significant acts of fraud and other criminality were committed.
These crimes were never prosecuted and no accountability was imposed.
“The idea that policymakers are protecting banks from insolvency on the grounds that it’s cheaper to preserve the shitty economy banks are helping to provide, millions of people be damned, stands as a pretty good reason why thousands of people are occupying public spaces all over the country right now, to protest the corrupt partnership of finance and government, at their expense…”
They believe and to some extent, I think correctly, if the nature, and extent, of the fraud et al, were exposed, and there is significant evidence of that, beyond what we have read by Matt Taibbi, or Gretchen Morgensen at the NYT, a world wide house of cards will collapse, and a serious worldwide sovereign depression would occur.
What most corporations earn legally and how they legally profit from their business is their their right as the laws are framed.
That said, Apple should be held to more account about the slave labor at Foxcon in China where they had suicide nets below the slaves quarters to keep them from succeeding in killing themselves after 40 hour shifts of assembling IPhones.
Or, the koch brothers should be brought up on charges following the evidence brought to light by Bloomberg.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-02/koch…
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENuN2R0je0k
The attorney General serves at the pleasure of the President.
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All I can say is…..
Excuses ain’t worth nickels !
Oh ezra.. blah blah blah.. Doesn’t the White House have it’s own PR dept?
This article hurts my head because I see a lot of false choices they’ve devised as the only available options, or the other experts they consult are also neoliberals but because they’re republicans we should think that if they agree then it’s the right answer.
Phil Gram was McCains original economist and was a neoliberal. Doug Holtz-Eakin looks like he is too. Where Ezra Says hes a Republican economist and serves at a right leaning institute, well we know that Obama is too. And from what we saw from the health care debate, this Admin selects and promotes so called experts that agree with them, like Jonathan Gruber
This is such a head fake and circular self reinforcing logic. We are taking the bad assets off their hands, only they get to live, get bailouts, and the keep enormous undeserved bonuses, even increasing them.
And what can they do to reduce the home-owners debt?
They can claw back the money. Make the stock holders take haircuts.
Impoverish the banks officers personally, take their personal assets. They should have been treated like bernie maddoff. Home owners should have been taken care of like people that were reimbursed through FICA which we also paid for, since they didn’t bother collecting premiums for it for years.
On first Blush.. well looks like they got over there initial moment of weakness- full of sympathy and all for the dirty peasants.
The only people screaming was Larry Kudlow and Rick Santelli. The Tea Party was pissed off at the bailouts and at the Republican convention they shouted “TARP! TARP! TARP!” at Sen. Bob Bennett.
I’m sure Emmelt could have shut that down quickly, like they did Dillan….It’s almost like they’re on the same team.
3 pages of excuses aren’t going to get this coward elected again. Where’s our pecora commission?
They were still going inside the museum which was a stupid idea. It’s a private business, and it was such a bad idea that they don’t even need an infiltrator to make them look bad. The guy just ended up looking as bad as they.
Thats a simplistic answer, and it’s not what happened in millions of cases.
Start with Matt Taibbi. He’s an easy read.
I think that your pulling our legs though, if you wanted to know what is really happening the information is everywhere. I’m more inclined to think you’re paid to spread class based disinformation.
Wow. I need to bookmark this piece, because it taught me a lot. Really stunning how shitty our leadership is.
this seems like a good idea. i gave up on dailyk a long time ago, but would be intetested in reading your essays there if you’d post a link here.
i was thinking the same myself as i was reading thru dday’s report, why not capitalize a public bank to take up the slack for the big “private” banks as they fail.
insure depositors’ money, keep business lines of credit open, develop credit/debit cards, and let citi, jpmorganchase, boa, et al., slowly fail as they are required by the courts to
to compensate for a disaster and damages they caused.
You are wrong. And you didn’t answer my question. Which is my point, nobody wants to actually answer that question. You’d rather attack me. I’m serious about my question.
I’m aware that not all stories are the same, but show me some data about how many underwater homes/borrowers are due to being ‘duped’ as opposed to taking a get-rich-quick chance that didn’t pan out. Or are simply the victom of a drop in house value. If somebody was duped, the answer is to forgive the debt and take back the house. The answer is not to get a free house, or a loan with better terms than somebody else can get. There’s nothing wrong with renting if you can’t afford to buy.
I was 40 years old before I could buy a house. I made sure I’d be able to keep it before I bought. I’ve been making payments for 18 years. What’s wrong with that? Why shouldn’t I get a break too?
Chophouse is correct, the issue is to investigate allegations of fraud and act on those. People should not benefit in those instances where they made the wrong decision – either overpaid, bought a terrible house to begin with, misjudged the market, didn’t have enough money, etc,. What about all the people who rented during the period or bought something they could afford, or didn’t buy when there were like 10 other offers at the height of the market frenzy.
That being said, people should get the same opportunity that ‘person corporations’ get in bankrupcy, etc. If that means they work with a judge to lower the loan, then so be it. That was the lender’s risk.
Unlike in the commodities markets, where laws were changed or ignored to allow speculation and the increase in end-user prices happened because of speculation and not any true scarcity (and innocent people who did not participate in the speculation were hurt), in the housing market, foolish people were motivated by greed to make bad financial decisions. The vast majority of homeowners can sell their home today than for what they paid. The “problem” however is that it is less than they wanted. There is also a large number of people who made bad decisions about buying a home and should have waited until the bubble was deflated. What needs to occur is the actual instances of fraud need to be investigated and procescuted… including people who applied for loans and put down fraudulent info on the loan app to get the loan as well as the bank that participated.
Yer breakin’ our hearts, flophaus.
People who bought near the top of the bubble paid an artificially and fraudulently inflated price that far exceeded the true value of what they were buying. They were victims of all the actors who conspired to create and profited from that bubble, and they suffered real damages. OTOH, if you are not underwater, then you bought before the bubble was well and truly inflated, so the loss of value you cite was never more than an illusion in the first place, and you suffered no damages. You just had the thrill of the roller coaster ride.
Oooooh, that was really very well said. Thank you. You forget to mention Viacom, though. Six companies control it all. ;-)
Interesting that you hold the buyers responsible for not recognizing the bubble, when all the Wall Street geniuses, including the great Alan Greenspan, are now on record SWEARING that they couldn’t see it. Should all those guys be in jail for perjury?
Thanks, I knew I was a brick shy of a load…
For those who thought CBS was ‘liberal’….
Viacom Inc. (NYSE: VIA) (NYSE: VIAB)(NYSE: VNV), short for “Video & Audio Communications”, is an American media conglomerate with interests primarily in, but not limited to, cinema and cable television. As of 2010, it is the world’s fourth-largest media conglomerate, behind The Walt Disney Company, Time Warner and News Corporation.[2][3][4][5]
The current Viacom was created on December 31, 2005 as a spinoff from CBS Corporation, which changed its name from Viacom to CBS at the same time. CBS, not Viacom, retains control of the over-the-air broadcasting, TV production, outdoor advertising, subscription pay television (Showtime) and publishing assets (Simon & Schuster) formerly owned by the larger company. However, National Amusements, through Sumner Redstone, retains majority control of Viacom. Predecessor firms of CBS Corporation include Gulf + Western, which later became Paramount Communications Inc., and Westinghouse Electric Corporation.
Comprising BET Networks, MTV Networks, and Paramount Pictures, Viacom connects with audiences through television, motion pictures, mobile platforms and online in more than 160 countries and territories. Viacom operates approximately 170 media networks reaching more than 600 million global subscribers and more than 500 branded digital media properties.[1]
This was not a perfect storm (ala Greenspan), it was the perfect con. They knew the housing bubble they inflated way beyond any previous bubble would eventually burst, and that the US Govt. via the taxpayers would be the only ones without a chair when the music in the musical chairs game stopped. Like I said, the perfect con. Enforce the securities fraud laws thru the RICO statutes. They are organized criminals and should be treated as such.
Response to shekissesfrogs at #27
“They can claw back the money. Make the stock holders take haircuts.
Impoverish the banks officers personally, take their personal assets.” You are one of the few with the spunk and clarity of thought to actually put this very obvious point in writing. Why is that, do you suppose?
I posted about HAMP on KOS way back in 2009. I stated the program was designed to fail for the simple reason that bank compliance was entirely voluntary! My diary was ripped and discounted as “ranting.” Well, lo and behold. Of course, when I remind Kossacks about this, the standard response is…silence.
Obama is a shape-shifter and a huckster. He sold us “Hope and Change” and all we got was way more of the same. Time to show him the door…no matter what the alternative.
Wow, all those millions of people just made the wrong decision! People buying more than they can afford. Does this apply to property speculators like The Donald who routinely bought more than they could afford then just walked away? Please. In addition to being our own doctors we now have to be real estate agents, appraisers, financiers and just about every other specialty so we can navigate this country without getting screwed. No one is ever accountable in the USA, unless you’re just one of the masses.
Accountability for masses, yes, accountability for massahs, never. God’s will. /s
Carrying it just a little further, it does not seem that the big banks are willing to provide credit to someone who was affected by the big “recession.” I was laid off and out of work for more than a year, and wound up using retirement savings to try to stay afloat and current with existing bills. It finally got to a point where I had to bite the bullet and let the chips fall.
I am now at a point where I need to buy a car, and have the job, etc. to do so. No one will touch me, though, because my credit score is so low. I have lots of “good” credit reported, but the bad stuff has just sent everything into the basement. I wonder how many other persons are in the same boat, and what it would do to the economy if a “public” bank would begin lending in such situations?
I suspect that the TBTF banks would get off their hind ends and do something to support the economy. In the interim, people like me could rebuild our credit by purchasing automobiles…
Extremely well-stated. Thank you, especially for your conclusion:
This does remind me. If the MSM asked me for the “narrative” on OWS, I’d offer them “Accountability. We want some accountability!“
I tend to agree with several posters here that there was fraud committed. But other people simply bought way beyond their means and I don’t want to subsidize those people.
Regardless, DDay’s post is very important. BUT when it comes to holding Wall Street accountable, if Obama wanted some accountability it would be very easy to begin.
We could start with those Sept 16, 2008 phone calls between Hank Paulson and Lord Blankfein. The use of AIG as a pass thru vehicle for Goldman would be a wonderful place to start!
Alas, the reality is that Obama (like most elected officials) has no interest in accountability. He sees Judd Gregg and he knows what waits on the other side…
WRT your first sentence, there is no difficulty or principled objection to separating out those people from the ones who have been true victims, on a case by case basis.
It’s not all we got: we got to watch the 1% “race to the top!”
Obama didn’t merely spurn our hopes, he used slogans to take an ironic piss on them.