The Obama Administration announced that they will not implement the CLASS Act, a voluntary long-term care insurance program that was a key priority of the late Ted Kennedy, and which was instituted as part of the Affordable Care Act.
The initiative, known as the Class Act, was included in the law to help Americans cover the cost of aid for daily-living needs such as bathing and using the toilet if they became unable to care for themselves. Mounting concerns that the program was too costly over the long run had prompted officials at the Department of Health and Human Services to re-examine the program in recent months. Last month, it fired the program’s chief actuary and reassigned other staff.
HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told Congress in a letter that she doesn’t see a viable path forward at this time.
The Administration was always a foe of the program, doubting that it could achieve long-term actuarial balance. However, in deep-sixing the CLASS Act, the Administration just forfeited $86 billion in savings on the Affordable Care Act. That’s because the CLASS Act was a net revenue positive in the ten-year window of the legislation, because it collected more in premiums that it paid out in the early years, according to CBO scoring.
So the effective nullification of the CLASS Act costs $86 billion. But it’s unlikely that $86 billion will be made up in any other way. If Congress repealed the CLASS Act, they might have to find offsets. But since the White House just isn’t going to implement the program, the savings won’t be realized but nobody has to worry about paygo or anything. It just blows a hole in the medium-term budget.
But more important than that, long-term care is in a state of crisis, and the CLASS Act offered a way forward to ameliorate that. People of modest incomes cannot afford help over the long term without some program of in-home assistance. Medicaid pays for some of these benefits for the truly indigent, but the system is breaking apart. Budget bean-counters decided that the outlook of the CLASS Act 20 and 30 years down the road was more important than this crisis, so they decided not to work toward fixing it.
More from National Journal… and Sarah Kliff.
…Just to be perfectly clear here, Judd Gregg put an amendment on the ACA that said that CLASS had to be self-sustaining without taxpayer funds for 75 years. HHS had to work within those guidelines, and altering that by reducing benefits, at least, would require further changes from Congress. There were probably ways to bargain for lower prices to obtain services or charge a higher premium. But HHS opted to throw the program out instead, judging that a voluntary program would attract more sick customers and cause a death spiral.




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So typical of the mind-set in this country. No one is supposed to get old, or die, or get wrinkles or ever need someone to help them get to a toilet to take a crap. The message is clear: we want you to work, buy products and services and pay taxes to support the oligarchy. When you can no longer do those things, please just die so we don’t have to be bothered caring for you or even looking at you.
We aren’t marching the elderly, disabled and children into the gas chamber just yet, but we sure as hell don’t mind condemning them to a miserable existence.
In a case where the Republicans aren’t even putting pressure on this President he still gives the Republicans a win.
If I was a Democrat in Congress, and I had gotten strong armed by the administration to vote for ACA, I would be livid.
It is said that many Americans think that Barack Obama is a nice guy.
Barack Obama is not a nice guy, and the American people may soon realize that he is not a nice guy.
“Underdog” Obama clearly does not want a second term as President.
Perhaps he deserves another “term”, possibly ten to twenty?
And then, a taxpayer-paid visit to the Hague?
You see, Obama does not identify with the sufferring, concerns, and worries of ordinary people … no one close to him faces poverty or the question of what to do with an aging relative who can no longer care for themselves.
Is Barack Obama really such a nice guy?
Is Barack Obama a class act?
Thanks, DDay, as always, for your superb reporting and thoughtful anaylsis.
DW
How about twenty-to-life?
Classless, cluless, cruel and corrupt.
First the money for Bernie Sellout’s community health centers got cut. Now the CLASS portion of the bill. Then Vermont can’t get a waiver for state single-payer. Throw in a zillion or so waivers on other parts of the bill and what do we have left?
Answer:
a) PHrma contribs to Zero’s re-election campaign.
b) The individual mandate.
Okay.
I just figure that America shouldn’t be too greedy, BP, as there might be a few other people who would like a time-share of the DroneMan.
DW
One more knife in the back for the working men and women of the country. This abomination of a president must be removed from office. He is ruining our country.
Obama is a despicable man. Dishonest and heartless to the core.
So…..Obamna is NOW forfeiting the game even before the coin-toss????
Obama’s vision for America: If you’re poor, go die in the gutter. Just like in India, GE’s newly adopted homeland.
Why should they? They aren’t a class act themselves.
Obama’s crappy healthcare overhaul is coming apart like a car put together with superglue, as it was supposed to do, of course, after it transferred everything to the insurance corpse and Big PhRMA.
Pretty soon the only thing left will be the mandate to buy skyrocketing insurance.
Really not looking forward to my later years….which are pretty much here anyway
PS: these are the “some things are good about it” which are being ditched
Lucy didn’t even have to leave the huddle to take the ball away.
Probably because America won’t be here in 20-30 years
He’s always been the Golden Child.
I say that not knowing everything about the man, but you know I am a people watcher. I even read his autobiography.
But, I will say, what I said a few days ago, that he’s not looking as well as he once looked. Something is taking a toll on the man.
I think he resembles Joseph Goebbels more … every single day, demi … the eyes … the eyes are dead.
DW
Oh, pshaw.
LOL, I think you might be right. the viciousness of the daily attacks on the average american is mind boggling. It is a full on war, and unlike all the phony wars – war on drugs, terror – they intend to win this one
If the media were to add the red dot in his eyes, who would see it?
Everyone knew that HCR was not a very well thought out law, so I am sure reps had some idea what they were voting for.
It needed a lot more thought and open hearings so all the best ideas could have been brought forward. Was there even a single hearing on single payer??
They’re just reaping what they sowed.
Well said…Already nixed…So sad.
I hadn’t heard that VT could not get an HHS waiver for its single payer, or that it had even gotten that far and hit a wall.
There is another problem, though, that in addition to an HHS waiver there would have to be an amendment to ACA for VT, and Congress would be unlikely to do such. Isn’t that where the problem is?
And there was rumor that he and Kennedy had had a bit of a falling-out before K’s death. Pretty obvious explanations, it seems.
I don’t understand why the right hates Obama. he is the best Republican President they’ve had in decades.
Quint in Jaws:
I knew Joe Goebbels, I worked with Joe Goebbels, and he, sir, is no Joe Goebbels.
Are you taking lessons from Hank Williams, Jr?
I would say this, Obama likes the show and idea of being President, but I don’t think he likes the job of being President.
That is an appalling appropriate question, demi.
Who would notice?
Who would care?
Who would see?
DW
I tried to read his autobiography. Found it chock full of trite, and gave up. I knew he was full of BS. I knew he was a front for the elites.
The night he got elected, I went to an election party, had to my partner is a big dem supporter. I kid you not people were crying and hugging one another. I was horrified. had a few people shout at me for not going along with the group hysteria.
Joe had redeeming features?
Merely sharing what I see, cregan, the eyes are dead, the mouth, down-turned …
And the heart … that too, is dead.
(So, you knew Goebbels and worked with him did you?
Poor chap.)
DW
I’ve predicted over and over that by the time the Health Insurance Company and Pharmaceutical Welfare and Giveaway Act was fully implemented, the only parts that would be left are the mandate and the penalties. THIS is what OWS is about. It’s the poor and the middle class being crapped on over and over by the wealthy people who make the decisions or who own those who do.
x2
Aren’t you glad Obama blew off putting people to work and instead spent all his political capital on the Rube Goldberg Health Care “Reform” Act of 2010?
That would make you a minimum of 80 years old and a Nazi.
Have to confess: I fell for it.
I’m just curious, by nature I suppose.
And, feeding that particular tree. :)
I wasn’t into the hysteria but I thought that for once I wasn’t voting for the lesser of two evils but somebody I really wanted in there. Now I don’t believe I voted for the lesser but rather the greater of the two evils. At least if McLame had come up with such an abominable plan, the Democrats would have blocked it if for no other reason than because McLame has an “R” after his name.
Immediately after Kennedy’s death, the implosion of the Democratic Party began with Martha Coakley’s come-from-ahead loss to Scott Brown. It’s been all downhill from there.
I saw a photo – one of so many – of people all over the US, that showed an older man, on oxygen, with a walker marching.
God Bless Him. Or, powerful, positive thoughts sent to him.
Good on him in any event.
NO, not you:-)
That tree is like the Redwoods, in size and length of life, indeed, it is one of the major trees of life, demi … I share my existence with two cats who are fondly devoted to it … as, I confess, am I …
;~DW
At the house I lived in for 20 years, there was the oldest of the Eucalyptus trees that I had planted, one right off of a funky patio we had. There was a huge round granite rock at the trunk and I would stand barefoot on the rock and HUG that tree.
The right wing claim that the younger generation is “catching on” to these costs, and encourage the belief that they don’t owe anything to mom and pop and if they can’t make it, it’s not their fault.
The “good ole days” the conservatives like to fondly remember had grandma and grandpa often in their declining years being taken care of by their children, but you know, to today’s money oriented society, that’s expensive, inconvenient, and reduces their own lifestyle, not to mention that the grandchildren don’t want to have to be crowded up in fewer bedrooms so the “funny_smelling” old folk can have a room of their own. (sorry for the run-on sentence)
Time to get them to the ice flows, while the ice flows still exist, I guess. BTW, my parent’s remaining days were in my home, which was a hard sell for her, not for me.
From a plot at Arlington National Cemetary, a deep voice is heard rising from the ground “Fuck you Obama, if it hadn’t been for me you wouldn’t have gotten your bill through.” Try to rest in peace, Senator Kennedy.
It’s okay dem, I don’t mind honest expressions of faith. Just the kind that are used to justify bigotry and intolerance.
Where’s soylent green when you need it?
Enough already.
So we should bankrupt the country to pay for years of individuals not willing to take care of themselves? Let them rot.
Yep. Whatever he might have been before he decided to run for President, he sure isn’t that man anymore (I’m being generous here)
Regarding that $86 billion cancellation “cost,” Senator Gregg said at the time:
“In addition, the CLASS Act’s long-term fiscal problems were disguised using some sleight-of-hand budgeting to create a short-term surplus to help pay for the health care reform bill. These are the types of scoring gimmicks that are simply unacceptable in a serious debate about health reform and the long-term fiscal health of our nation.”
You know the worst part? Obama knew he was going to betray Kennedy while he was convincing a terminally ill man that he was on his side.
Classy. Been to any Republican debates lately?
The first months of the Obama administration were dedicated to the “stimulus” program, not to healthcare reform. Had he had the backbone to have created a real stimulus program, and told Boehner and the rethugs where to go, the economy might have gotten turned around more. But it, like the healthcare reform bill, is riddled with right wing agendas and give-aways, and isn’t working.
no
Scrooge before his epiphany.
It’s Obama’s way. Sadly.
The democratic leadership has become only marginally different from the republican leadership. It’s little wonder that OWS doesn’t believe in any of them. I used to admire Clinton, but it was part of his handiwork that got us to where we’re at now, and Obama just keeps on doing Wall Streets work for them.
I agree. I actually think he is probably a decent human being who made the (common) mistake of thinking he was more talented than he actually is in the game he chose to play. He’s not so stupid to miss the hand-writing on the wall. He knows very well that he can’t beat Romney in a head-to-head election. Why have the substitute when you can get the real thing? And he knows he has forfeited the respect of people like us, who are more numerous than the MSM and his advisors want to believe. Our little segment of that large group is noisier, but behind us are millions of lurkers. He must be seeing the private polls showing disaster in Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania, not to mention serious declines in New York and California where it won’t affect his electoral prospects but must certainly hit him in his pride where it hurts.
He’s got a big decision to make within three and a half months: whether to pull out or stay in. He needs some good news to stay in, and it’s not coming.
Obama was probably thinking something not far from what BackBEast comments @48 … in the second sentence, Margaret.
Barack Obama is NOT a nice, or even a decent, human being, he is merely a dressed-up thug.
DW
No we should bankrupt the company by fighting wars forever in places where we don’t belong and will certainly lose, like we lost all the wars in the past half century beginning with Korea.
Obama is nothing but a Harvard-trained whore.
What company are you referring to?
No really. If we still have a climate will we be able to grow food? Somebody’s going to have to fix those bridges and roads and the gov doesn’t want to do it.
Maybe Dobbs was right and we’re headed towards a NAU.
First the Tar Sands pipeline and then the NAFTA superhighway.
Nothing lasts forever, ask the Romans or the Ottomans for that matter.
We blew through America like a tornado, sucking up all the resources in 200 years and our “leaders” think all they need to do is go steal it from other countries….or us
Oh, thanks, Peg. But, I usually qualify, translate my feelings for others who do not share my specific beliefs, which change all the time as I am growing. Depending on what information I am reading as how it pertains to my fundamental beliefs.
I still wonder about Ted……
Right on. No arguments from me.
He could make a great martini.
Two please. Stirred with two green olives. Thank you.
Yes, an odd combination.
You’re not shitting us, are you?
On edit: Please tell the truff.
Most of the stimulus program consisted of tax cuts for businesses. Obama, as usual, made pre-emptive concessions to the GOP in the form of those tax cuts and was rewarded with the back of the hand by Boehner and McConnell. Economists like Paul Krugman warned that the stimulus was inadequate, and events proved them right.
In all seriousness, I really feel that Obama thinks so highly of himself that it doesn’t matter; right or left, he doesn’t care what you think. He is a legend in his own mind, and unless you appreciate it, you’re nothing.
I don’t even think old Joe thought that highly of himself.
Thanks…glad you could think of the retort….I was mostly speechless. ;)
It would be an interesting book to write if it were true. Like that thing from Hitler’s secretary a few years back (which became the movie Downfall).
But, I am kidding, riffing off of DW’s Goebbels comparison and the Texas Senator’s put down of Dan Quale re: Kennedy.
As I said before, Golden Child.
*
Personal aside. The bus just brought my son home. I gave the bus driver five chocolat chip cookies that had just come out of the oven.
How fun is that?
You might want to consider it. Sounds like you’d fit right in.
Ah ha!
I agree that’s it’s good sometimes to have fun.
Smiles are good.
I wonder if Obama and his bean counters considered what most middle class Americans and I suspect a lot of 1%’ers are doing now for “long term care”. They’re divesting their assets to their children to make themselves eligible for Medicaid and nursing home care. Having been through getting my father into a nursing home, I’ve seen what a mess this whole elderly health care and long term care mess really looks like. I doubt there are enough nursing homes and nursing home beds right now to take care of the tsunami of us headed toward old age, dementia and alzheimers, let alone Parkinson’s etc. Most people believe it is their God-given right to inherit property from their parents and let the government foot the bill for old people. But keep your hands off my inheritance!
Ah, hello? Nobody here is going to order me a martini, stirred with two olives?
Right on, DW.
The guy is a sociopath. No doubt.
What is just as telling as his inaction on jobs, his embrace of the superwealthy, and his continuation of Bush’s dismantling of civil rights is his complete silence on a host of injustices going on around the country right now, including the attacks on unions, the murder of Troy Davis, the police actions against protesters, and on and on and on. There have been presidents in the past who have used their position to at least try to set the tone, ones who spoke about justice and equality. But this guy is incapable of that. I notice that whenever he uses the word “folks,” he is being particularly full of shit.
It served its purpose: It got Reggie (widow of Ted) Kennedy to endorse it.
I am not inclined to disagree with your characterization of Obama, cregan, in fact, I’d say you are, likely, very near the truth … and it applies to many. if not all, in the political class, which includes the media, and to the Masters … as well.
DW
Ted Kennedy. Two years sober….
Because I don’t want to pay for others bad decisions? Those people should turn to family, the churches or any of the other thousands of non-profit groups out there (many of which I donate to) but not the federal government. Vote against the nanny state.
You’ve been flagged buddy. Why don’t you take your bile somewhere else?
Absolutely spot-on about his eyes. Dead man-dead man walking.
Ah yes, the patented Obama “political expediency” … marcospinelli.
Something about perfect enemas of the good … or some such bloody rot.
DW
Well, I didn’t ask anyone to offer him a drink, did I?
Ya trying to make a personal point with me BackEast?
Your cookies must have been fun for the bus driver!
Actually, I wish people did not use Hitler, Goebbels and Himmler to make comparisons to current figures.
These guys were in a class by themselves, far ahead of whoever is in second place. They lived an evil which is incomprehensible, they weren’t just bad people.
When you consider they systematically, scientifically and intentionally set about to kill people as if on an assembly line, like they were objects, you realize they are not like people giving tax breaks or wanting to do any of the other acts we don’t like. However bad, those acts are inconsequential in comparison.
There have been other mass murderers; but none that went about it so coldly and with such calculation.
They shouldn’t be compared to any other being on this planet, if for no other reason than to prevent their acts being minimized as being nothing different than giving out tax breaks or the torture of a few people or people playing a golf game.
We agree.
He doesn’t get any of the chocolate chip cookies I gave to the bus driver.
a personal point? no.
I bet you own cats.
Bad decisions? You seem to be under the impression that every illness is behavior related. I guess you could find a way to justify your being a heartless jerk under any circumstance though. Got hit by a drunk driver? Shouldn’t have been driving that day. Born with spina bifida? Aren’t you smart enough to know that the spinal cord goes on the inside? Beaten up and raped? Maybe you should have worn a burqa that day. Impacted, infected wisdom teeth? If you’d had any sense you wouldn’t have grown them…
Despicable. Just despicable.
It was a reply to me.
I have a cat. Before that I had a German Shepherd. WTF is your point?
Dude’s just drinking or something.
Peg! Good to see you, sweetie.
Shakin’ it off. It’s Friday night and we can do/go/be whatever we want.
Ya hah.
Somethin’ got your nanny goat? You consider “them” to be useless? I’d say go north, hop on a big piece of ice, and take a float, however, the ice is all melting … so you might hop onto a polar bear by mistake …
If ya do, then you’re on yer own … and don’t go hollerin’ for any help ‘cuz the rest of us are too busy. Or, you could make a bright decision, as opposed to the dumb decisions everybody else apparently makes, as far as you are concerned, and go elsewhere and spread some of that sweet down-home love and affection which you’ve made yourself famous for sharing…
What do ya think?
Nobody claimed life was fair. But its not everybody’s responsibility to pay for your bad luck and poor decisions. If you have a claim against someone as in a drunk driver so be it. But don’t whine to me on the other side of the country because you were a lifetime smoker, heavy drinker or even too stupid to look both ways before crossing the street. That is what family is for and I hope you have a good one.
Yep. Just about to get on my hippie, liberal bike and ride it for my hippie, liberal health. See ya later dems!
You think bankrupting the country is the answer?
Yeah. Poor you. Having to pay for things that maintain a society. Why, “society” is just two syllables away from socialism. What a nightmare for you!
Put down the needle, man.
Your comment to Margaret shows that you have no idea who she is. Your comment, therefore, is merely full of venom misdirected.
You’re being very mean and rude and I don’t like it.
You should apoligize, Something simple like, Oh, I just read my comment to you Margaret and that’s not what I really meant. I’m so sorry.
Or…..
Depends on what question you’re askin’.
Its too much to ask to be responsible for yourself? If I choose to give to different not for profit groups to support those in difficult situations god on me. But the government wouldn’t be taking from ones pocket to give to so many who contribute so little.
You must ask yourself that quite often.
You’re so off track.
“Back East” is a classic example of a Perry Mason troll: his M.O. is to ask one loaded question after another. Don’t feed him.
Saw-ree. But…but…
societal evolution. Instead we continue to demonize the successful and prop up the weakest to no avail.
What a whiner you are! I read your words but they remind me of nothing so much as a spoiled, self centered brat who has been encouraged to share. I’m going to go for a ride on my bike. Good for the cardio-vascular system and I don’t have to listen to petulant moaning about how unfair life is.
Then, how do you explain your missing front teeth and pants that are too tight?
enjoy your ride
I just flagged him for the admins’ attention. His sole purpose in being here is to make trouble.
is that supposed to be a threat?
You sound like a “charitable soul” who is afraid that their humanity might be taxed.
Not to worry, you don’t even qualify for the minimun rate.
As to bankrupting the country, I’d say those of yer ilk have done so … already.
Enjoy.
No, I just thought I should tell you that you should have won the Academy Award as supporting actor in Deliverence. Your scene with Ned Beatty was classic. They robbed you!
you must be the local busy body. I didn’t realize disagreement and debate were frowned upon here.
Acting like someone who just wants to upset and argue with the natives is Frowned Upon in this Establisment!
you mean the 43% of the budget spent on entitlement programs?
That’s exactly right.
Those CEOs who run their companies into the ground by looting them and Wall Street Bankers who loot the country need no more of our propping up.
They should be subject to actual free markets.
have never seen it.
you’re absolutely right. Nice to see someone here agrees with me
Your probably don’t get TV back up in the hills there. You would have thought the director would have screened the damn thing for you.
You Are So Busted!
Good one, Kelly.
I’ve never heard Los Angeles referred to as the hills.
See, you’re against the 1% too.
Next thing you know, you’ll be all full of patchouli.
I’m not against the 1%. Why would I be against someone simply because they have more money than I do? Makes about as much sense as being against someone because they do well in school or are good at sports. Its just jealousy and nothing more.
Not to mention being a cat owner…
Up in the backwoods, you probably haven’t heard much about Los Angeles at all, so it isn’t surprising.
But, you missed a good movie. I tell you, when you had Ned Beatty down on the ground and were giving it to him and making him squeal, that should have been up for the Oscar right there.
Me-owwww.
On edit: I meant to say What a Dick, and I wish I didn’t know he’s from LA.
Well, you ARE disagreeable, which is rather beyond debate … at this point.
And, here, I thought that I was the “busybody” for pointing out the insensitive and rather nasty stuff you were saying on the occupy thread that day, long ago, when OWS was just beginning … you remember?
Too many “busybodies”, here, for your own “good”?
Poor little you.
Except that you are rich, isn’t that right?
Must be … or you’d not waste time with the “losers”. Otherwise you’d have to be out makin’ money and hustlin’ jive …
I know, yer tryin’ to save us … is that it? Got to be it.
You are trying to change our minds?
And save our souls?
Just bringing us the light of sweet reason?
You got a preacher’s license?
you’re awfully homophobic for a progressive
Whatever happened to petrocelli? He used to make us chocolate martinis. Mmmmmm.
Has nothing to do with anyone being rich
It’s not about the sex act, it’s about the intent beyond that.
It’s kind of challenging to talk to someone who communicates the way you do on a blog that is most frequented by intelligent, liberal Cuties.
NO, man, I said you were great!! You gave it all you had. When you insisted he squeal, that brought the scene up to a whole new level.
I hope you were able to use the acting fee to get your teeth fixed though.
Honest to God, I was thinking about him this morning.
Petro!!!! Where ever you are out there…know that we hold you in our hearts.
You’re bad, Kelly, verra bad.
You’re gonna confusulate the poor wee thing.
Then, it’ll start flip-floppin’ around and knock over the furniture.
;~DW
intelligent? Appears more like a herd mentality.
It has EVERYTHING to do with a FEW being filthy rich and controlling everything.
Ain’t you payin’ ANY attention?
So you want what they have. Simple jealousy.
Shorter form of BackEast’s bile: “Are there no prisons, no workhouses?”
I think Back East is some kind of reverse punk music psy-op.
Because it’s a clever anagram of “Stab Cake” a WILD punk song. All Marie Antoinette-ish and stuff. So when we get all “Eat the Rich” he’s really happy.
Hi Stabby!
Petro, wherever you are: We love you, man (and not just because you make the best chocolate martinis evan).
Yep, that is exactly what you sound like, mooing away with the herd mentality … couple of others just like you, but nastier. Or more smug.
Frankly, you have quite a “way” to go ’til ya hit the bigtime …
Small po-tay-toes, comes to mind, Quayle at that if you must, but Rush … you ain’t. Norquist, either.
You’re a wee little wanna bee.
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzit! THWACK!!!
No more than a pipsqueak mosquito, who cain’t even raise an itch-welt.
(Apologies to mosquitos … at least they feed the frogs …)
:)
Right, I want to destroy the world so I can be a rich fucker!!
You want money.
I want a world in which life is what matters … not some fucked up economic “game” of winner-take-all and fuck the hindmost.
Ever read Adam Smith?
Ever hear of the Vile Maxim?
Your ignorance personifies that maxim.
Everyone, here, but you, understands that.
quit playing the victim and blaming “rich” for all your short comings. You made your decisions they made theirs. Sorry whatever you decided has left you so unfulfilled and jealous of what others have. Its not too late to change.
Whenever I seem to get too excited about Anything, my son say’s Mom. Calm down.
But if yer having fun, I’m all with ya!
Now, you’re saying stuff about people, like before when you did with Margaret, that you have No Idea what you are talking about.
Why do you feel the need to spew stuff like you are doing?
As your question has yet to be answered I thought I would do so.
Vermont Single payer needs no new law.
Vermont needs a few waivers in 2012 – none of which have Obama pushing – but they will likely be granted as they are minor. Vermont needs to use the Exchange subsidy – a 2014 event – to reduce the cost of Single Payer, and that needs a major waiver to be granted in 2013 so they can set the payroll tax rate as being after those Federal subsidy monies are collected so that will pay less for Vt single payer via the payroll tax. That last waiver is unlikely because Obama is totally sold out to the insurance industry. Indeed a GOP president would make it more likely the waiver would be granted as it fits the GOP’s “states should do medical safety net” concept.
Montana may well be asking for the same waivers for a state single payer in 2014. Again a GOP president would be more likely to agree than our fake “I am to the left of Hillary” Obama.
maybe you should lecture some others on here for doing the exact same thing you seem to be up in arms about.
Oh, I get it. You hate your mother.
Yeah, I’ve got to quit having so much excited fun, demi.
I might start to enjoy it much too much.
Okay. I’m all calmed down … now …
(Actually, my laughing has scared both cats and the dog right out of the house.)
;~DW
Judd Gregg added a requirement to the CLASS program but voted AGAINST the bill? Real nice … I’m glad FDL blames all problems with the HCR bill on Obama because he’s clearly the one at fault here, LOL!
yawn..
Gosh, a little while ago I heard sirens that stopped kinda close by and now there’s a black and white helicopeter circling my very immediate neighborhood.
I just locked all the doors. And, told the gentlemen.
What else? No guns in the house.
Interesting comments – many wise, many just selfish, many showing a lack of knowledge about how the legacy rich and their children got rich, and indeed many showing a lack of basic economics (was Willy Suttun biased against banks when he chose to rob them – or was he telling the truth when he said he just robbed banks because that was where the money is :-) ).
As Government – in all expenditures – basically spends to protect Assets owned by Americans here and abroad – 40% of which are owned by the top 1% – the top one percent should pay 40% of the cost of government – or about $1.3 trillion ($1 trillion if we remove the safety net you object to from the discussion). They now pay about 1/3rd of that.
Seems like there is room for a tax increase on the rich (as well as cutting back some of that asset protection spending like the military).
Meanwhile I join you in rejecting envy of the rich – they are not worth the effort or time – indeed most that I’ve met and worked with were unpleasant – and the legacy kids worse. Better to just enjoy this life. :-)
But that doesn’t mean fairness and economic efficiency should be rejected.
I think you’ve tired it completely out, demi, it’s acting like it’s going to sleep.
;~DW
Sounds serious.
Keep us posted, demi.
DW
And, I didn’t even have to make warm chocolate milk.
Just admit Obama is the weakest President we’ve ever had and move along.
Well, obviously something’s up and they’re looking for somebody. About 20 years ago the same thing happened, some other neighborhood, but the guy ran through my back yard and the cops in the helicoptor said over the loud speaker thingie (notice how technical I am) We See You. Stop and put your hands up, Fucker!
It was scary.
How much more daylight have you got, there, demi?
My thoughts are with you and yours.
Take care.
DW
Dead Kennedy, indeed.
About an hour and a half. I would think whoever they’re looking for would take for the hills, the Angeles Forest that starts two blocks away from our home, but the helicopter is still doing the same circle over the homes.
Oh,thanks for your concern. I have a hound dog that will keep Anyone out of our yard, and the doors are locked.
Plus, if they did get in, I’d just talk them to death. :)
Who’s disputing that?
Just put them online with BackEast. They’d be bored to death…
ok crazy cat lady
How is this not a violation of the oath of office – that he would “…faithfully execute the office of the President…”- by not enforcing the law. It’s his job.
Obama, obviously, does not think he has to follow the law, he acts with impunity. He should be impeached on indictments from failure to fulfill the oath of the office (or why have one?),to war mongering (now Iran), to graft. Absent a successful primary challenge or third party candidate, Romney looks like the lesser evil to me.
Stick around to see what happens to a phoney and a cheat. (Yeah, I know, they get away with murder, get promoted and rich. But times are changing.)
Hee Hee.
Drama seems over. Helicopter’s gone and I heard a few more sirens. Prolly caught the person. Leaving the doors locked, nevertheless.
Really, Brindle is a wonderful watch dog and great alarm system.
And, he loves me.
Just read through this thread.
What an embarrassing collection of troll-baiting and name-calling comments.
Leave the poor thing alone. Remember, folks:
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OK, mom. Just. Calm. Down.
“Pretty soon the only thing left will be the mandate to buy skyrocketing insurance.”
That, and public subsidies for the private insurance companies’ profits, and the biggest reduction nationally in access to affordable, legal abortion we’ve seen in 40 years.
Either cite examples of my being “crazy” or keep the name calling and ad hominem attacks under your toupee please.
Just talk ‘em to sleep, ask about their mom, you know what to do.
Good on your hound dog.
Our pooch, eleven-year-old daughter’s actually, loves everybody, he would just take any intruder his toy and try to get them to play.
We have a young buck who is about the same age as the dog, they actually touched noses in the woodlot behind our house two summers ago, so the deer is not afraid or bothered by Romeo. Now a very big and handsome six-point, he comes right up to the backyard fence and Romeo quickly finds his toy and rushes out to the fence, barking of course, but always hoping the deer will play with him.
Romeo is a Yorkie Poo, runs about ten pounds, thinks he’s the size of a St. Bernard, but also believes he’s a cat, being third in the pecking-order line-up to the catnip bowl. Stuff seems to calm him down.
;~DW
Gee whiz! You never let me have ANY fun. I’ll comply however.
You’re positions appear to be either based on a mental disorder or stupidity. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe its just ignorance. I’ll go with that as to not offend you.
Oh, well, Brindle is a Plott Hound who is a love bug with us, but has an unusually loud Bark and some long teeth that would scare any intruder.
He sleeps with us.
NOT in the pacified northwest, great state of wishy-warshy —
if you’re a dem-0-crap, you’re whining 24*7 that mean meanies aren’t nice and don’t tell the truth, and, are … mean.
and you’re asking for money.
rmm
Uncle Teddy …! We’re sorry, really. I promise, we won’t do it any more.
;~DW
Oh, all right. Playing along party lines. Sorry, Teddy. I’ll be good.
Oh, Jesus Christ, this is hilarious. Obama has become a Republican! It’s like the Manchurian Candidate, but after the guy becomes President he starts torpedoing the Red Chinese instead!
I’m starting to wonder if maybe we Republicans ought to vote for HIM in 2012.
Just feakin’ precious.
Appreciated that link and photo, demi.
Plott Hounds seem like a fine dog, indeed.
After reading the information you provided, I’m very certain I should not like to run afoul of one.
DW
No where else to play, so I’ll be saying so long for now.
Take care, all you crazy post full moon, independant speakers of how You Really Feel, no matter what.
Geez.
They’re not killers, tho. They were bred to tree bears. They’ll run all day to tree a critter and then howl for the hunters who take over. So, no worries. I bet he’d lick you to pieces.
Take care, and despite it all, it was, in fact, fun. I admit it.
Here, enjoy a song dedicated especially for you.
good.
Yeah! (I attended Yale)
I have a coonhound! A redtick coonhound. You should hear her yelp. Alerts the whole town that we are arriving in our car.
Apropos of nothing, I think the word “thwack” is funny.
“…I have always depended on the kindness of strangers.”
I would suggest reading some Hannah Arendt. Just because the evil is subtle and persuasive doesn’t make it any less evil. The message is clear: you are of no use to us and therefore will not be supported. Frankly, I’d rather die quickly in the gas chamber then endure a slow death covered in bedsores and my own excrement. Our current medical systems allows thousands to do just that each year.
What fell apart when Kennedy died, it fell apart in the 2008 primary for President when we had the choice of Corporate whore candidate Clinton versus Trojan Horse Republican Candidate Obama. The only candidate actually talking about the problems that most Americans really faced was the one who got caught with his pants down. In fact I find it to be really ironic, he is now a criminal while Never Met a War I Didn’t Like Clinton is Secretary of State and They’re not Frauds and Criminals, They’re My Base Obama is President.
And yeah, I was a little teary when Obama was elected because I never expected to see a black man get elected President and we missed a bullet with Clinton. I might have been right about the first. Unfortunately, I didn’t realize there was no avoiding the bullet – from primary to the general it was all fixed.
Bipartisanship, part deux.
Watch the SCOTUS overturn either the whole thing or just the mandate right before the election. Even if the conservative justices like the mandate, they’ll overturn it just to mess with Obama.
Just another reason for true Democrats and left-leaning citizens to reject Obama’s re-election bid and to nominate a better candidate.
Serial betrayal of the trust granted him by the electorate does not put Obama on the right-wide of history.
Obama’s not electable. Act now because discovering this fact a year from now – or on Nov 7th, 2012 – would be a compound tragedy.
All this time, the Obamabots have been saying that the ACA is a small step to single payer health care. Is this another small step, Obamabots?