In a most unsurprising bit of news, the Super Committee, the group of 12 lawmakers tasked with coming up with at least a $1.2 trillion deficit package, isn’t able to agree on anything, and is slowly morphing from a Gang of 12 to a Gang of Obama Boehner and Reid You Figure It Out:
With just five weeks until its deadline, a secretive Congressional committee seeking ways to cut the federal deficit is far from a consensus, and party leaders may need to step in if they want to ensure agreement, say people involved in the panel’s work.
The 12-member committee is just over halfway through the 76-day interval from its first meeting to the date its final report is due on Nov. 23, but has not gained much traction. The lawmakers have not agreed on basic elements like a benchmark against which savings will be measured.
The panel’s members, evenly divided between the two parties, spent most of September in a standoff. Republicans refused to budge from their position against new taxes. Democrats said they would not discuss cuts to entitlement programs like Medicare unless Republicans made a firm commitment to accept additional revenues [...]
A Republican who has worked on Capitol Hill for more than two decades said: “Basically we are going in circles. It’s going very, very slowly. The only way this will work is if the leaders decide they want to get a deal and lay down parameters. Everybody is sitting around sucking their thumb until they get some guidance on what to do.”
Really nobody on that panel is an independent figure; most of the members are reliable lieutenants for the leadership. And we saw this summer with the debt limit deliberations that nobody really wants to sign their name to a deal. Perhaps the President, but certainly nobody else. And what the President offered back in July does not fully resemble what he offered a month ago.
I’m entertained by the description of John Kerry as expressing “a waterfall of words” in the committee’s private meetings, but outside of wanting to hear that, I don’t think much is getting done. The issue is simple: John Boehner wasn’t going to agree to tax hikes in July, and he’s not going to agree to tax hikes now. There was a thought that the trigger cuts, particularly to defense, would somehow create an incentive to negotiate. It didn’t because nobody actually believes that the trigger will be pulled. Congress has all of 2012 to dispense with those trigger cuts, and that’s the likely outcome.
I guess the Gang of Six got an audience with the Super Committee, and I suppose there’s still a chance for some miracle to be pulled out. But it’s really not likely at this point. My prediction is that $1 trillion of the $1.2 trillion in solutions, if they even get to that point, will end up being that cap on war spending from the drawdown in Iraq and Afghanistan. That was in Reid’s deficit bill and the Paul Ryan budget. It’s mostly an accounting gimmick but it will come in very handy.




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Shout out to Maxine Waters. She fights. Maxine for President!! She not only criticizes the Big Satan Debt Deal, she wants to abolish Catfood 2.0 It is easy to see why the corrupt Dee Cee phonies, such as Melanie Sloan, have conspired to destroy Maxine.
Technically speaking, would that be the Smoke part or the Mirrors part? I’m a bit confused on that point.
Maybe they need a 4.2 earthquake like we just had here in Berkeley to shake them up.
Can I just say my loathing for S. 365 and this committee that it spawned knows no boundaries.
And in other news: Water is still wet and peanut butter still sticky.
Hey you asshole Democrats, which part of “NO CUTS MEDICARE OR SOCIAL SECURITY, PERIOD” do you not understand?
I don’t care if you get tax rates back up to Eisenhower levels, NO CUTS TO SS & MC. If anything, the programs need EXPANDING, not cut.
What complete assholes.
They’re thinking “Oh, the D voters out there will forgive us for cutting SS & Medicare if we just raise taxes on the rich.”
And the sad part is they’re probably more right than wrong.
“…It didn’t because nobody actually believes that the trigger will be pulled. Congress has all of 2012 to dispense with those trigger cuts, and that’s the likely outcome…. It’s mostly an accounting gimmick but it will come in very handy.”
Bunch of clowns, cowards, whores.
SC is IMO just smoke and mirrors. Big changes are happening, things will unravel fast, and whatever the plans are that are being worked on for the coming change, I am not sure SC is where they will come from
Either that or they’ve finally realized how much they’ve screwed the pooch with their base and are going after Republican donors instead.
I just heard about that on the radio. Jebus.
I thought I felt a little tremor while I was reading. Just another Bay Area event.
Ding ding ding ding ding!!! We have a winner. Has anybody noticed that the dem leadership no longer hides their absolute disdain for their own constituents. I guess theres enough people to keep them in office that they just no longer care.
This is TOO effing damn FUNNY!!
Idjits hoisted on their own patards. The super committee was such a *brilliant* trap to ensure the dirty deed would get done and now it’s dead in the water and they are facing the trap of doing nothing.
I am laughing my ass and my head off.
They kicked it down the road and told everyone they couldn’t kick it again. They will kick it again and again and again. Pretty soon NO ONE will pay any attention to these fools any more.
Gang of Obama Boehner and Reid You Figure It Out:
Or better still “Boehner, your wish is our command”
I am with you OldFatGuy. These people are comatose. NO CUTS, NO WAY, NOW HOW.
The part they don’t understand is providing an alternative path instead of the demands of their corporate masters – the same folks that underwrite the repubican party.
At a national level, the democratic party stands for absolutely NOTHING. You might see some differences in some states – clearly the Wisconsin dems are different than scott walker and his political cronies.
Problem is, the Wisconsin dem party gets undermined and loses support as people realize that the national party is just the other side of the same coin.
Don’t call the supercommittee dead. We have seen that obama and dem leadership will capitulate – in fact, what we have seen is that any disagreement with repugs may actually have just been a charade.
If anyone thinks it is not possible for obama to give the craziest republicans virtually everything they wanted despite this “deadlock”, they are mistaken.
And sadly, people will continue to pay attention because the demands of the most extreme repugs will be on your TEE-VEE 24/7 until they get what they want.
Propaganda. Works.
The incumbents in safe districts certainly don’t care. The only thing they see as a threat to their power is a lack of fund raising ability.
The Gang of Goldman, Immelt and the 1%.
it was fun while it lasted! not big enough to cause damage.
Maxine Waters has already proposed a bill to repeal the Super Congress on the grounds that it is COMPLETELY UNCONSTITUTIONAL. It was doomed from the get go because the intentions of this were always fascist in nature and that is inconsistent with what the Founding Fathers of the USA were all about. We are a sovreign republic, and our congress is mandated to utter it’s own credit. We don’t need the FED and we don’t need to bail out the banking cartels. We don’t need to start World War Three and we most certainly don’t need a president who is allowing the bailouts to continue, declares war after war without asking for permission to do so, and is lurching towards a blood bath which could even happen here on US soil if people get much more frustrated with what’s going on.
So, clearly the solution to the nation’s problems depends on defeating 33 Republican Senate candidates in 2012 and at least 300 Republican candidates for the House, because the Republicans just can’t be reasoned with.
Well, when We the People somehow think a more progressive agenda will result from replacing Democrats with right wing Tea Party Republicans, explain why any Democrat can consider We the People worthy of anything but disdain?