On Sunday, the Washington Post ran as a front-page item a story about Social Security that intimated the Trust Fund was a fiction and generally put a right-wing slant on the matter, in favor of the idea that the social insurance program was in crisis. Dean Baker pounced immediately, setting off a chain reaction that has the writer backpedaling. Here’s Dean:
As the article notes the trust fund currently holds $2.6 trillion in government bonds, so it is nowhere close to being unable to pay benefits. The whole point of building up the trust fund was to help cover costs at a future date when taxes would not be sufficient to cover full benefits. Rather than posing any sort of crisis, this is exactly what had been planned when Congress last made major changes to the program in 1983 based on the recommendations of the Greenspan commission.
The article makes great efforts to confuse readers about the status of the trust fund. It tells readers:
“The $2.6 trillion Social Security trust fund will provide little relief. The government has borrowed every cent and now must raise taxes, cut spending or borrow more heavily from outside investors to keep benefit checks flowing.”
This is the same situation the the government faces when Wall Street investment banker Peter Peterson or any other holder of government bonds decides to cash in their bonds when they become due. In such cases it “must raise taxes, cut spending or borrow more heavily from outside investors.” The Post’s reporters and editors should understand this fact.
Paul Krugman piled on, re-emphasizing the thudding stupidity behind the assumption that a trust fund backed by the full faith and credit of the US government is somehow a fiction. And others joined in. Even the Atlantic Wire reports that the “overall lack of clarity and understanding about one of the nation’s most cherished social programs is alarmingly persistent.”
This journalistic malpractice has a real-world impact, too. The perception of crisis in the Social Security program is exactly what the various Gangs of bipartisan deficit scolds (in this case, a literal “Gang of New York”) need to force their favored solution of austerity down the gullet of an American public speaking out about jobs and inequality, not the deficit. Americans favor social spending and higher taxes on the rich; the deficit scolds can’t have that. So they invent fictions about Social Security to position themselves as saviors, destroying the program in order to save it. This has been the impact of propaganda down the line.
The pressure on WaPo writer Lori Montgomery has been intense. Here was her response to a reader:
I am a journalist, not an economist. If you view Dean Baker as the voice of
god, then I’m afraid we’re not going to get very far.My article is as accurate and as objective as I could make it. Perhaps you’d like to point out some of these blatant falsehoods so I can respond to them directly.
Voice of God Dean Baker has already done the honors on that. She called the cash-negative position of Social Security, completely expected and planned by those who built up a $2.6 trillion surplus in the Trust Fund, as a “treacherous milestone.” And it goes downhill from there.
It’s good to see what passes for the liberal noise machine at least get the attention of the media disinformation campaign to make it easier to steal retirement insurance from the American public.




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Snotty, isn’t she? With her attitude, she really invites productive dialog. She admits:
but wastes no time in discounting a person who is recognized as economist. And if she is truthful in her claim
then she needs to find a new line of work quickly.
Don’t write about things you don’t understand while giving the impression you DO understand them.
Boxturtle (And her “misunderstandings” were awfully basic.)
Ya know, I read this :
and I translated it into: “I was just following orders”.
Boxturtle (I assume this means I won’t be invited to the publishers coctail parties next year)
There: clarified what position Lori holds…
You don’t make the front page by being honest and accurate. You make the front page by writing what the overloards want to read. This is also how you secure a position at a Kock/Peterson/DeVos think tank.
This is like the debt ceiling. This country can not default, except by choice. But many politicians were willing to make that choice. Does the trust fund have the full faith and credit of the United States if politicians are willing to renege on the debt?
How old is Lori Montgomery? 12? And looking for candy from Daddy Warbucks?
Yes, she is in the same boat as “economist” Herman Cain and his dumbass 999 nutjob nonsense. onitgoes, nonplussed, and Boxturle have it pretty much right. Especially the part about her writing about things she doesn’t understand. Good journalists frequently write about things they are not expert in, but they usually quantify and qualify their statements with informed facts from the experts in the field they are writing their journal on, but she just asserts bulls**t and calls it journalism. This is not her first debacle and I seriously wonder why she is still allowed to write at all about anything of any substance. Particularly something as important and topical as SS. WaPo is showing themselves more and more to be FOX on 15th street.
You owe 12 year olds an apology. Vast majority of 12 year olds are neither dishonest nor stupid.
Just came down from watching MSNBC and sure enough they have dropped the second shoe! More is being paid out in Social Security benefits than is being collected in taxes. Do Tell?? Since they cut radically the employee contribution in payroll taxes, what a shock there is less coming in.
Yet we will hear much more reports of the “sky falling — Social Security is out of money! Income can’t keep up with outlay. Watch out for the train wreck.”
These people who feed on all this are insufferable.
Oh Lori, this is what happens when you cut and paste from Michelle Bachmann’s campaign website.
Reid said it best, “The trust fund will be gone by 2036 and so will I, so who cares.”
As they say in in these parts: Bless her heart, she is doing the best she can.
Saltinwound writes:
“Does the trust fund have the full faith and credit of the United States if politicians are willing to renege on the debt?”
I would reword that.
Do the politicians have the full faith and credit of the people of the United States, if said politicians are willing to renege on the debt obligations presented by the Social Security trust fund? And further, would the United States itself be trusted in any legal obligation henceforward internationally, were its government to demonstrate that it is not only willing but intending to renege on such debt to its own citizens, let alone any others?
(Okay, I got a bit wordy, as usual. Can’t resist a rhetorical question.)
Serious stuff. This is how the narrative gets fuel — you know, like Muslims = terrorist — before the political ‘deal’ (read Dems cave) coming out of the supercommitte, or the failure of the supercommittee. Another nail in the coffin of the safety net, and the WAPO, and soon to be others no doubt, will provide the sledge hammer. The ‘news’ outlets just cant resist a good, bloody story.
Seriously — you can’t tell the difference between a trust fund and a promise based on the ability to collect taxes in the future? Because I assure you a lot of voters do.
I am no economist, but it seems very clear that the language this “Lori” person used in her writing was more characteristic of a dramatist than that of a journalist or wonk-ish economist.
The Post itself hasn’t had a lot of credibility with me since it endorsed the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Hearing later that it was raising money by providing rightist lobbyists and string-pullers access to its journalists concluded for me the portrait of The Post as a largely corrupt tool of the plutocracy.
I am glad Baker is going after The Post (as he has been for years). That “news”paper deserves the vitriol of reputable figures.
Lori, Maya McG, p.peterson, rivlinthealice, samuelsonthesmall, are all ‘truth-negative’.
Quick! The Defense Department Budget is in jeopardy! The Education Department budget is in jeopardy! The Health and Human Services Department is in jeopardy! HUD is in jeopardy!
Doesn’t this sound ridiculous? The whole entire government outlays are reliant on taxes being collected. In the case of Social Security the taxes were already collected, thus it’s why there is a pile of IOUs.
Those other departments are more in “jeopardy” than SS considering they’ve been reliant on “stealing” from the Social Security trust fund to be funded at the levels they have been and provide “tax cuts.”
I say this as an independant voter.
Defensive much?
whats the difference? you planning to stop paying taxes? or is texas going to “secede”
Yes, the amount of taxes coming in is less since they cut the employee contribution. The amount coming into SS is the same as if there had been no cut. The tax income is replace by money from the budget. The trick of the replacement is now the deficit cutters can claim that SS is a drain on the general fund. This is just a backdoor method of providing a reason to “tweak” SS; to “destroying the village in order to save it,” as we heard in time past.
I suspect that the article’s content was dictated to her by one of Pete Peterson’s “experts.”
Everyone should note that the Trust Fund’s “special” treasuries can be redeemed ONLY when needed to cover an SS revenue deficit. If Pete Peterson and Barack Obama succeed in “strengthening” SS so that it doesn’t run a deficit, the theft of that $2.6 trillion of working-class money becomes a fait accompli.
Yep, that’s what this is about. They don’t want to pay back the money they “borrowed” from working class people. It’s why I scoff every time I hear the absolutely stupid argument that only 53% of the population paid taxes. Uh, no. Those wars and whatnot were funded with Social Security trust fund revenues. Until they are paid back this idea that the lowest quintile doesn’t “have skin in the game” is a retarded fallacy.
Dean Baker also reminds us: ” … the (USA) spent 3.0 percent of GDP on the military in 2000 and was projected to continue to spend at that level or less. If (we) were to return military spending to this level (we) would save more than $2.6 trillion over the next decade, before counting interest savings.”
WHERE OH WHERE IS THE PRESIDENT WE ELECTED AND WHY WON’T FDL CALL FOR OBAMA’s DEFEAT IN 2012?
I am a journalist, not an economist
Aren’t journalist supposed verify facts with economists such as Dean Baker before printing an BS article? WoPO is a tool for Pete Peterson
You know, Stick, when Obama came up with that “tax relief” idea my antenna started spinning. That was a very dangerous precedent: It announces,”YES WE CAN mess with Social Security.”
I’m hoping I don’t find out that it was part of Obama’s marvellously bipartisan negotiating parade. Something like: “I’ll let you keep the Bush tax cuts if you’ll let me give the little people a break on their payroll taxes.”
Aw, heck, what difference would it make? I’m still gonna vote for him even if I do have to hold my nose.
Heck-of-a-Job WaPo writer Lori Montgomery.
Wouldn’t you be more comfortable writing Op-Eds for that Heritage crew
Shorter Montgomery:
I’m a prostitute, not an economist.
“I’ll let you keep the Bush tax cuts if you’ll
let me give the little people a break on their payroll taxesgive me cover to gut ‘entitlements’.”And, always remember that definition of insanity.
I wonder how she got her job at WaPo. Probably another trust fund baby on an internship. That seems to be how the national papers get their so-called reporters. Her story is beyond pathetic. Did she actually graduate with a university degree? If so, she probably must have gotten through on multiple-guess tests.
You’re right to ask the question. FDL has taken positions in the past by working to defeat joeshortride and blanche lincoln. The overriding sentiment here seems to be to throw out 0, but there are some who will vote for the dim no matter what the evidence says. The evidence in this case says that 0 will not do anything that will really help the 99% except say a few sanctimonious words.
Accusing the WaPo of “journalistic malpractice” is like accusing Leatherface of “medical malpractice.”
(with apologies to Leatherface)
The damage has been done. Nothing we say here will get to the audience the WAPOO was speaking to; they have done their “due diligence” in informing themselves of the issues, now back to their relatively gilded beltway lives. (I used to live just outside the beltway, I know these people.)
Unless another MSM does as big or bigger a story on how wrong the WAPOO article was, the narrative stands.
I’m the person who e-mailed Lori. I asked her where she studied economics, and if she hadn’t studied economics, where went to college and what her degrees were in. She ignored my question, so I wrote back and asked again. No response. I can only assume that she went to Liberty University or some other place that she’s ashamed of.
Meh, I get the impression that the site is not going to actively coordinate one way or the other for the election.
It’s going to be up to everyone to weigh the argument for a particular strategy for themselves.
Some won’t vote, some will vote third, some will vote GOP out of protest and yet others will insist that in order to save the republic we must vote for the Democrat.
I’m not quite sure how that will make the site relevant in terms of politicians seeing it as a voting bloc and therefore working to sway its readership but I’m not quite certain that sites that are sure Dem are doing much better in terms of effectiveness or relevance when it comes to swaying debate(I’m looking at you Orange site).
Participating in a rigged game definitely has its drawbacks.
Of course all those budgets are in jeopardy, too. But the point at issue in this thread is whether it would make sense to claim that this apparent jeopardy is nothing to worry about, because the programs are all protected by a “trust fund.” They obviously are not.
You’re missing the point as well. Social Security, like most of our federal spending, is faced with threatened cutbacks. The threat cannot be averted by claiming that there is a Trust Fund that will solve the problem. There is no trust fund, only a willingness to collect future taxes for all federal programs, of which SS is only one. SS will have to compete for the available future tax revenues if it is to survive. It is not special.
There is no reason for social security to compete with other tax revenues because it’s not in the same category or legal situation as defense spending or anything that’s directly on budget.
Social Security is a longevity/old age insurance annuity. It is a basic savings plan. It’s not like a tax that goes to a battleship or a road you never use personally. It’s an account and a plan paid for and owned by a particular beneficiary.
Saying something like that is just obfuscation.
Dear “journalist, not an economist” Lori Montgomery,
With regard to your reply (“If you view Dean Baker as the voice of god, etc.”), you should know that in proper writing (such as journalists are encouraged to use), the name “God” is always capitalized. It does not matter to which faith you adhere, or whether you (like I) are an atheist and consider “God” a fictional character; whether He is real or not, He always requires capital letters in the accepted literary style.
If you are discussing the concept of deities in general, then the lowercase would be acceptable. (“If you want to treat Dean Baker like a god”, for example.) But God, as a single (allegedly Supreme) being, requires capitalization when being called by His name, just as “Lori Montgomery” does.
Toodles,
VoteSocialist
[Never mind]
That’s the point. It was sold exactly the way you describe, but that’s not what happened. I’d be happier if we’d actually done this, but we didn’t.
As for the argument that the SS beneficiary “owns” his benefits, the courts threw that out a long time ago. You own your personal retirement savings. You do not own your projected SS benefits. If Congress cancels them, you do not have a claim for deprivation of property without due process. I wish you did. We’d all have been a lot better off if the F.I.C.A. you paid all your life had been invested somewhere productive, but instead it was squandered. All that’s left now is the possibility of replacing it with future tax revenues from younger generations.
Given the numbers that show overwhelming support for the program by even tea party people and republicans, I can’t imagine any politician trying to eviscerate social security being returned to office.
Only in government would worrying about something that may or may not happen years out(I mean 35 years hence we may have a larger or smaller population in the work force, tomorrow’s workers haven’t even been born yet) take precedence over worrying about actual outsets like the Defense Department TODAY.
What this is all about is the government “borrowed” the money(and let’s be clear the fact that there are IOUs means it was borrowed) and it doesn’t want to pay it back. Too bad.
I don’t get the impression they particularly care about re election. That’s the sad part. Most of them just use their government service as a stepping stone to their next opportunity.
I wish I could say differently but I believe they will ignore us on Social Security just like they did on FISA, Iraq, the bailouts, the public option and a whole host of other things the general population reached a consensus on.
It’s one of reasons I am fascinated by Occupy Wall Street. The one thing I think they may be able to understand is “angry mob”
I think you’re right. So they won’t eviscerate it. They’ll slowly start to chip away at the edges, concentrating first on means testing, so no one will care, because it affects only rich people. They’ll also raise the age of eligibility. Gradually it will become clear that what’s left is very much like welfare, and the program will lose its popularity. In any case, what’s left won’t be SS as it was originally sold to us, because that’s unsustainable.
You don’t read fdl very often, do you?
Pushback is good; “angry mobs” in the street are also good. I notice all sorts of establishment types are starting to say “…and I can understand why they’re angry, there are good reasons for it” etc.
They werent’ talking that way before people took to the street.
Now that they know even Americans won’t put up with their s–t forever, they may be scared off even of pushing the lies on SocSec.
We must continue the pushback, too. Like pointint out to ms. Montgomery that since she isn’t an economist, she needs to talk to people who are, and not just the ones on the Pete Peterson/Koch/Norquist propaganda side.
Means testing is a no go for most liberals. Everyone knows that when you make a program solely for those in poverty it becomes a political football.
Not simply Lori Montgomery; but many of her sidekicks at WaPo too, all need to find new lines of work quickly. When it comes to “objective” News reporting, they don’t know the meaning of the words. WaPo has a continuous drum beat going everyday for Petersonism, the latest version of Hooverism. Peterson bought the Post and also CNN some time ago now. Kay Graham must be spinning in her grave.
It is special. It holds Treasury securities. The Treasury is constrained by section 4 of the 14th Amendment not to default on its debts. Congress cannot supercede that. Also, the president has the power to use proof platinum coin seigniorage to pay all Government debts, including SS debts when they fall due without getting the money from either taxing or borrowing. If the President refuses to use PPCS ro pay the debts of the US, then if that is his only option, he will be violating his oath of office. See: http://my.firedoglake.com/letsgetitdone/2011/09/16/ponzi-schemes-and-the-ponzi-schemers/
and:
http://my.firedoglake.com/letsgetitdone/2011/08/04/end-the-austerity-war-against-the-people-mint-the-platinum-coin/
Also: http://www.correntewire.com/beyond_the_debt_ceiling_the_30_trillion_plan_for_ending_borrowing_and_the_national_debt
Dr. Baker routinely lambasts those media outlets that convey propaganda as news including “Fox on 15th Street” as he describes the Washington Post. He is also just as quick to point out articles that correctly and honestly describe the economic debate that those media outlets publish.
One would think that the Washington Post misleads the reader most often but other media outlets frequently mentioned by Dr. Baker that propagandize rather than inform are National Public Radio and the New York Times.
Dr. Baker’s BLOG should be on your daily reading list for credible information and commentary on the major economic issues of today.