Either Rep. Joe Walsh or someone associated with posting the video of his meltdown at a meeting with constituents has now made the clip private, which is kind of hysterical in and of itself (UPDATE: there’s another version of the exchange here). But Think Progress provided a transcript so you can get the gist of it:
WALSH: That’s not the problem! The problem is you’ve got to be consistent. And I dont want government meddling in the marketplace. Yeah, they move from Goldman Sachs to the White House, I understand all of that. But you gotta’ be consistent. And it’s not the private marketplace that created this mess. What created mess was your government, which has demanded for years that everybody be in a home. And we’ve made it easy as possible for people to be in homes. [...] Don’t blame banks, and don’t blame the marketplace for the mess we’re in right now! I am tired of hearing that crap! This pisses me off! Too many people don’t listen. [...]
WALSH: Quiet for a minute! Quiet for a minute!
CONSTITUENT: Joe, what did I say–
WALSH: Quiet for a minute or I’m going to ask you to leave. You need to listen, or I’m going to ask you to leave.
The real issue, you see, is that people are blaming the banks for ripping off borrowers and investors and stealing homes. The government should clearly be responsible for that.
First of all, he’s ranting in the context of bankers moving seamlessly in and out of government, which messes up his whole narrative. So does the spectacle of a conference call put on by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency about these heralded “foreclosure reviews,” the latest effort to hold mortgage servicers accountable, where a Financial Services Roundtable lobbyist served as a spokesman for the servicers. Where government ends and lobbyists and corporate lackies begin is hard to decipher in this environment.
It’s almost not even worth getting to Walsh’s core charge, that the government forced banks to lend to people who couldn’t pay them back. I suppose the government forced banks to slice up those loans into securities and then either lose the paperwork or fail to honor the procedures demanded by the pooling and servicing agreements. Or the government forced banks to sell the securities to investors without telling them they were taking the other side of the bet against the securities. Or that they knew about the irregularities with the loans, and received them at a discount from the originators, without passing on the information to investors who thought the loans were highly rated and perfectly legitimate. And on and on.
Walsh has now released a statement that he had a “quicker fuse” than normal, and that while if banks “abused their charters they need to be prosecuted fully,” the problem is that “further government meddling will only exasperate the problem.” I didn’t change a word.
The larger story here, alluded to by Walsh, is that the flip side of blaming the government is, I guess, not blaming the banks. Or at least not holding them accountable. Yet that’s the default setting of most of official Washington. This exchange between Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) and Attorney General Eric Holder at a hearing yesterday should be at least as viral as idiot tea partier Joe Walsh ranting away:
Blumenthal generously suggested that, “I know the foreclosure crisis is on your agenda,” and then asked if we’ll ever see a prosecution on robosigning and other fraud.
Holder responded, at first, by pointing to states Attorney Generals, claiming they are conducting investigations. I do hope he’s thinking of Eric Schneiderman, Beau Biden, and Catherine Cortez Masto, because the ones working on the settlement are pointedly avoiding any real investigation. Holder then further dodged, suggesting DOJ might find other ways–like civil suits–to hold these banks accountable.
Finally, and perhaps most interesting, Bluementhal asked why DOJ had not intervened in the Bibby, Donnelly v. Wells Fargo suit, a whistleblower suit against Wells Fargo, BoA, Chase, Ally, and others for the illegal legal fees the banks charged homeowners, including veterans.
Holder hedged in response to that question, promising he’d find out who had made the decision not to intervene and the basis for the decision.
Right, the Administration is as desirous of sweeping this under the rug as a maniac like Joe Walsh, no? They want to extract a minor sum of a settlement and send the banks on their way, the same people who generated the crisis, to do their worst. Even though the banks have proven through the Countrywide settlement that they just won’t abide by the terms.
I’m coming around to the belief that Walsh is right, though not for any of the reasons he gives…




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Shorter Joe: The constituent is always wrong.
A tragic illustration of the lack of adequate mental health services in this country.
Do any of these ass-hats have an original thought, or are they hired by the GOP for their ability to spout the Party line? Fannie? Freddie? Barney? Dodd-Frank? The Post Office, for christ’s sake?
If I’d been there, I’d have laughed so hard my beer’d've come out my nose, and sprayed the maroon…I would have made sure that happened.
I get so angry, want to point out how wrong these clowns are, not in live ‘have a different opinion,’ but as in ‘are actually, factually WRONG on the evidence’, that I have to stop now before I break another keyboard…
heck of a debater, that guy. I thought he was going to choke the lady.
Called him and requested he resign ha.
I am stuck in a timeloop of horror……….heeeeeeeeeeeeeelp.
Time for some music
Marty Robbins
Don’t bring your guns to town.
Yea David it’s hard werk doing what should really be done…shit can the lot, presideny(sic) included.
What a mess..so much wrong and twisted. Weasel words, and obfuscation.
induces serious depression knowing all this. My kids keep telling me to stop and because I love them I keep my mouth shut of these things in their presence and put a smile on my face.
We will prevail..the sun will shine on a just world of rich culture absent the vultures and feaster’s of others misery because evil devours itself.
If that prick talked to me that way he’d be laying on the floor with a pool stick broken in half beside him.
+1, be nice to run into him on the street sans handlers.
I make walking sticks and sheleighlies..be glad to make you one.
WALSH: Quiet for a minute or I’m going to ask you to leave. You need to listen, or I’m going to ask you to leave.
I didn’t even know Joe owned a bar.
Huh.
Konczal at Rortybomb has an excellent takedown, with many links, showing that the right wing pointing at Fannie/Freddie etc as the cause of the mortgage-housing financial crisis is bunk.
http://rortybomb.wordpress.com/2011/11/01/bloombergs-awful-comment-what-can-we-say-for-certain-regarding-the-gses/
Hey, my D rep, Hinchey, who used to be respectable before O put him in the veal pen, yelled at me a couple of times that I was wrong (about HCR & Afghan war).
The only defense they’re left with if they have to meet with constituents (wh is already a rare event) is to yell at them.
Watched the video. Joes tells a guy who’s having a drink in a bar that he has to leave? dork.
Obviously, you did not take Propaganda 101 where you would have learned that if you repeat a lie a sufficient number of times it becomes the truth.
All bought and paid for. They’re not even trying to hide it any more.
Authoritarian social dominators like Walsh think they can control everything.
They’re all on the same page. The Fox News feed is their daily brief.
You know, I demand that everyone should be in a home. No one should be homeless. I’m sure Walsh and his ilk are sure that there are deserving homeless who deserve to be on the streets. Throw the bum out.
Throw the bum out on the street for one full week. Maybe he’d grow some compassion.
DISCLAIMER:
NOTHING KNOWN OF THE PSYCHE OF ANY PERSON(S) REFERENCED,
MENTIONED OR INFERRED OR OF THEIR RELATIVE(S.)
THIS IS A GENERIC
STATEMENT REGARDING A THEORY, REFLECTING MY PERSONAL
OPINION AND SUPPOSITION ONLY.
The following is one of my pro forma comments as to persons who think
anti-social attitudes are par for the course.
Mr. Walsh seems, however, to actually believe his (to me, demonstrably:)
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/10/misunderstanding-credit-and-housing-crises-blaming-the-cra-gses/
wrong, anti-social
notions with hostile urgency.
more wrong anti-social stuff dogmatically
((Repeating: the following is one of my pro forma comments; Walsh’s comments may reflect pure political strategy and rightly absent anything else to be drawn form them (I’m a lawyer and truth is there’s hardly a disclaimer on Earth that isn’t meaningfully placed:) GENERALLY SPEAKING:)
Transference is the imparting onto another (I’m only a shrink’s son, so I
can use this language: is the masturbating onto you…) their pains or fears until you in turn fear persons resembling them.
For most in practice, transference is the fear of the person
who will soon stand next to you cause he might be a pain like
obnoxious people looking half like him. That’s why some of our
young people fight in the streets instead of studying math.
When they impart fear that has been mastered, that’s not just the culture of transference, it’s transference as a virtue, which is to say it’s
deception mastered and deception as a virtue.
Mr. Spock’s half brother
Sybok would not ask these peddlers about their pain, as they simply think (PERSONAL SUPPOSITION ONLY) their behavior is par for the course. He would say to those who put them into that way of thinking the following, whereas you would prefer running away from these people: “Your pain. It runs deep. Share it with me.”
Where the masters scapegoat those one would disassociate from out of fear,
that’s the culture and virtue of hypocrisy and sociopathy.
I’ve proposed a positive side wherein the above is a telling hook in an otherwise identical-everywhere world morality.
Buddha, in fact is defined by the exact opposite of the characteristics described above, and that defines Western morality only absent this hook. Chinese tradition, carefully considered, is actually identical to Western.
(I got interested in this from the math prospect it created: a web bot-like
gradient suggestive of a nature of information itself.)
as to:
http://awurl.com/ATco6GmCs#first_awesome_highlight
Of course, there’s always the possibility he’s simply a bag man.
SURE, government’s the problem. Specifically, the Republicans in the government who spearheaded the repeal of Glass Steagall in 1999.
It’s pretty telling that a pro-corporate tool like Joe Walsh more passionately supports Wall Street than his own kids. This man needs a tranq dart, stat.
At first reading, I was not with you regarding this assertion. On the second reading, I recall that there are many parallels between stories told of the births of Siddhārtha Gautama and Jesus. There are far too many similarities in the recounting of miracles of each of their births to just ignore the possibility that there has been some borrowing of material that has proven to sell well in the marketplace. In order to get the attention and buy-in from target audiences, this practice of embellishing the “Good News” with magical happenings was created and perpetuated by followers wanting to make the sell for their team at the expense of the essential truth. These embellishments were not the work of the two teachers of wisdom, but they were both long gone when their life stories were “pimped out” and neither one of them was any longer in control of the message.
The real truth that there can only be assimilation of what the assimilator is capable of assimilating is certainly universal. It was a long time ago when I would pour through academic tomes on this subject, but as I recall there has been well documented historical linkages to both the West and East to the oh so very ancient Greek culture which pretty much perfected mythos.
Anybody who thinks lenders didn’t cause the mess should read this:
“Inside the Liar’s Loan: How the mortgage industry nurtured deceit.”
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2008/04/inside_the_liars_loan.html
I think I see why his wife left him. Why would any sane person put up with a scumball like this?
This is motivated by Gene Lyons, a commentator who appears on Salon:
Congressman Walsh, do you know why the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 is called the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977? Because it was passed by Congress in 1977, thirty years before the “housing bubble” and the notion that toxic mortgages could be bundled up, securitized, then sold off to pension funds.
Additionally, the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 only affected Main Street commercial banks and Savings and Loan institutions not Wall Street investment banks. Of course, since the repeal of Glass-Steagall, things have changed. Thanks a lot.
Conservatives should have to explain 1929 & 2008 before they are taken seriously.
And after that, conservatives should point to that golden era when deregulation and tax cuts were successful (hint: the era that comes closest to their ideal would be the Clinton years).
Interesting – “Even though the banks have proven through the Countrywide settlement that they just won’t abide by the terms.”
Since the FTC charged that Countrywide – mainlty before it was purchased by BofA in 2008 as a way for the Fed to prevent another bankrupcy – had:
1. charged excessive fees for default-related services like property inspections
2. made claims about amounts owed by homeowners in bankruptcy that were false or couldn’t be backed up; and
3. didn’t tell people going through bankruptcy when new fees or charges were being added to their loans,
and had obtained a settlement that included a $108 million consumer redress fund, whose checks have been mailed out, I guess someone must have reported that the BofA Countrywide has violated the part of the agreement to stop the illegal servicing practices and make major changes to its business practices. I just can’t seem to find that report – although I do know that BofA has sent much of its loan servicing business to other banks.
Sorry about being a bit nit-picking, as I agreed with just about everything you said, and indeed would add that the Mayor of New York – Mr Bloomberg – has joined with Rep. Walsh in pushing the big lie that the mess is not the fault of Wall Street – indeed ignoring the obvious fact that it is the fault of the investment banks and hedge funds and derivatives and Greenspan’s refusal to use his Fed powers to regulate same, and fault of the Bush administration in pushing to allow liar loans in 2003 so as to provide more product for the investment banks to sell, and help win the 2004 election.
lets see Walsh or those of his ilk have a debate with Bill Black or Yves Smith..I am sure they would shut clowns like Walsh up!