The Economist has a great elegy for my favorite soon-to-be now deposed leader, Silvio Berlusconi. If you gave me a list at the beginning of the year of Hosni Mubarak, Moammar Gadhafi and Berlusconi, I would have said that Berlusconi would have been the hardest one to dislodge from power. It took him almost destroying his country with his governance – for the second time – to finally bring the hammer down.
Mr Berlusconi has governed it for eight and a half of the past ten years, and has probably done more to mould it in his image than anyone since the country’s fascist dictator, Benito Mussolini. For the past 30 months he has clung to power with improbable tenacity, shrugging off scandals that would have felled the leader of almost any other country [...]
Alarm was also spread by Mr Berlusconi’s initial insistence on a general election as the only way out of the political deadlock, and by his naming of a perceived stooge, Angelino Alfano, the secretary of his People of Freedom (PdL) movement, as his likely successor: the man who, as justice minister, introduced a 2008 law, later ruled unconstitutional, that provided Mr Berlusconi with immunity from prosecution. Not even an agreement by parliamentary business managers to pass the economic reforms by November 14th stemmed the run on Italian debt.
This is Berlusconi’s legacy. Parliament under his rule served mainly to extricate him from any of a number of extra-curricular legal problems, when it wasn’t designing policies almost entirely for the benefit of his businesses. Anyone who thinks that Berlusconi will spend a minute in jail hasn’t been paying attention to how he has run the political sphere for the past two decades, quietly reducing his own exposure to prosecution.
The Prime Minister ran the country into the ground, and even under the circumstances, his exit is welcome news. Berlusconi’s unflagging optimism actually bordered on dementia: his response to the current bond crisis, initially, was that the restaurants were full, so the economy must be doing fine. The country is a mismanaged wreck, where powerful monopolies hold the vast majority of wealth, poverty rises, and protection rackets are the norm. It can be said that, at least when the entire government was under the sway of the mafia, the trains ran on time. This Berlusconi/Mafia hybrid – his ties are well-documented – was just inefficient. Growth over the past 15 years has averaged a paltry 0.75% (of course, this doesn’t take into account a very large black market economy).
None of this is to say that the alternative will be sunny for Italy in the near term. They are being forced into crushing austerity, which will not work in providing economic growth. Spending cuts will merely lead to revenue reductions. There is not nearly enough time to just wait around for growth when bond yields are elevated. Things may not be able to get worse, but yet it can.
And this is premised on the notion that Berlusconi still won’t be wielding influence behind the scenes. In this reading he goes back from being Prime Minister to just being Rupert Murdoch, in control of most of the media Italians see. He can hide there in the shadows before coming back to life, like he did after the reign of Romano Prodi, and returning to power.
More broadly, the only way Italy has out of their own troubles is the European Central Bank, which is completely unwilling to act as the lender of last resort to avoid an outright depression. Paul Krugman has the best word on this:
What has happened, it turns out, is that by going on the euro, Spain and Italy in effect reduced themselves to the status of third-world countries that have to borrow in someone else’s currency, with all the loss of flexibility that implies. In particular, since euro-area countries can’t print money even in an emergency, they’re subject to funding disruptions in a way that nations that kept their own currencies aren’t — and the result is what you see right now. America, which borrows in dollars, doesn’t have that problem.
The other thing you need to know is that in the face of the current crisis, austerity has been a failure everywhere it has been tried: no country with significant debts has managed to slash its way back into the good graces of the financial markets. For example, Ireland is the good boy of Europe, having responded to its debt problems with savage austerity that has driven its unemployment rate to 14 percent. Yet the interest rate on Irish bonds is still above 8 percent — worse than Italy.
The moral of the story, then, is to beware of ideologues who are trying to hijack the European crisis on behalf of their agendas. If we listen to those ideologues, all we’ll end up doing is making our own problems — which are different from Europe’s, but arguably just as severe — even worse.
Sad.






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OK. I know you don’t sleep. But do you ever take bathroom breaks?????
In his defense, I think the Tonka truck that IS Italy only had two wheels when Burlosconi took it out of the toy box.
So does this mean you wouldn’t be enthusiastic about supporting the ‘Donald’ in a run for POTUS?
First, you are exactly right about Berlusconi. He’s a throwback to the demented rulers of Ancient Rome. And he makes Rupert Murdoch look like St Francis of Assisi. Okay, that may be going too far. He makes Murdoch look like the sole of St Francis’ sandal after St. Francis stepped in dog shit.
I like St Paul of Princeton too. But he’s not above omitting the facts, or massaging them, to make his point. In the piece you quote of him, he neglects to tell us an important factoid:
“First, if you look around the world you see that the big determining factor for interest rates isn’t the level of government debt but whether a government borrows in its own currency. Japan is much more deeply in debt than Italy, but the interest rate on long-term Japanese bonds is only about 1 percent to Italy’s 7 percent. Britain’s fiscal prospects look worse than Spain’s, but Britain can borrow at just a bit over 2 percent, while Spain is paying almost 6 percent.”
‘Japanese bonds 1% to Italy’s bonds 7%. Britain’s bonds 2% to Spain’s bond almost 6%.’ Because, Krugman tells us, Japan and Britain are borrowing in its own currency. But are there other reasons?
Neither Britain and obviously not Japan are involved with the euro. They continue to use the yen and the pound, and because they do so, they can print as much currency as they need to. And like America, they can buy their own bonds and keep their interest rates low.
So when Krugman says “when a government borrows in its own currency,” what he is really saying when a government prints its own currency, it can also pay top dollar for its own bonds, keeping the interest rates it pays to borrow from itself low, and maybe even start a little ‘flight to safety” into its freshly printed currency and bonds.
updated:
soon-to-benow deposed leaderGah. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Second verse: Worse than first.
Berlusconi was living Rupert Murdoch’s wet dream — control of a country’s media, which he parlayed into control of the country itself.
Yes, blame it all on Silvio. Granted he led the government, but I was unaware he had been anointed dictator or king. Wasn’t it de Tocqueville who said that ” In a democracy we get the government we deserve”?
Let’s not blame the bloated social programs or policies meant to curry the favor (and buy the votes) of the electorate. Those were welcomed when things were going well.
Oddly enough I learned about P2 Propaganda Due from the owners of the elder care place where my mother now lives. They are from Romania, and said that Ceaușescu (truly evil, my comment) was “a member of P2″. So, I had to find out what P2 was.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due
Berlusconi features greatly, and imho, the info is worth a read.
krugman. he smart. can explain to economic dopes like me. mark of truly smart.
Lol. I am no defender of Berlusconi. But, I have probably spent more time trying to understand Italian politics than anybody here and I don’t claim to understand it all. But it is no help to anyone for FDL put out 500 words based on some crap in The Economist and a Krugman column. Really, if I want to read the freaking tiny staff rag The Economist, I will. This isn’t reporting. And this isn’t analysis. This is just a garbage post. Nobody here knows a stinking thing about Italy. So why pretend?
What can be said of a country whose voters repeatedly return Berlusconi to power?
Democracy is failing in a number of European countries–Greece now has a coalition technocratic government which nobody voted for. Probably not one in five Greeks had ever heard of their new Prime Minister the last time they voted, but this is the government imposed on the country by the EU and the IMF. A similar result is likely in Italy, and probably not far off in Spain and Portugal.
It’s becoming more obvious every day that late-stage capitalism is incompatible with democratic government. I’d say that voters will have to choose one or the other, but clearly the elites are determined not to give them a choice, and democracy will have to be sacrificed to save capitalism.
Oops, sorry your Majesty. All you ignoramuses, shut up! E Blair is talking!
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What recent presidents does this remind me of? Oh yea, all of them.
But we’d like it if you could add a little light to the discussion. Even if it’s only the 1 or 2 biggest puzzles about Italy to which you have no As.
So, how would you explain it?
… than anyone since the country’s FIRST fascist dictator, Benito Mussolini.
It does seem that Dr Krugman’s words follow the line of other MMT Economists, like Mitchell, Mosler, Roche and Auerbach. They have all recently made the same points.
Burlusconi is to Italy what Rupert Murdoch almost was to Britain. I don’t think there is exact analogy in the United States, where the wealth at the very top is still somewhat dispersed. He owned the press and the tv, and used them to manipulate public opinion. He catered to the fascists (the Lombard league that was his power base), and split them from the Christian Democrats, who are the Italian equivalent of the old-style Republicans. He had Sicily in his pocket.
Italy’s a complicated place. I’ve spent a fair amount of time there in the past few years, and can’t begin to understand its politics, because they’re too local for an outsider to get a grip on. It’s prosperous, and the people know how to live on what they’ve got and they know who they are. As to the so-called bloated social programmes cited above. Links please? Or is the company that employs you to spout horse shit too cheap to give you the facts? Italy runs a budget surplus before interest payments on its debt, you mor0n. Get as book, but before you do, learn how to read.
The point about having your own currency is that the Central Bank can handle liquidity problems. Italy is not insolvent. It has short-term debt that has to be rolled over. That makes it vulnerable to trading crises, which have become more virulent in the past decade and a half because of the extremely complicated hedges that have been created for people who bet on these things. The value of the bet is several times greater than the value of the Italian national debt. Those bets are conditioned not on what the Italians do, but on what betters think other betters think other betters and so on and so on are going to do. It is all mirrors. There is no there, there. The only thing that works in this context is the big con.
Is there any question as to whether Berlusconi would still be Prime Minister of Italy if American investment bankers had not gone wild pushing sub-prime mortgages, putting together MBS with them, and selling them around the world until the largest bubble in the history of the world busted?
Sure, Berlusconi’s gone, but look at the cost.
I don’t doubt that Italy is not insolvent, if you say so.
I confess that I have not spent much time looking at the balance sheets of the PIIGS. But if Italy is having trouble rolling over it’s short term debt, that mean that it’s revenue will only cover it’s current expenses. And if the country is suffering from the same recession that most countries are, that also means they will be unable to buy back their short term debt or roll it over and will be forced to pay higher and higher interest rates for not only their short term but long term debt. This increases their annual interest expense and with their now receding revenues no longer covering their total expenses, they will soon be forced to borrow just to cover their current expenses.
You are absolutely right about about the” betters” and the legitimization of Credit Default Swaps. That they are still being sold after 2008 is mind boggling. My only hope is that the ECB is using its power to rid the European Union of politicians like Berlusconi and welfare programs like Greece.
So to my original point I repeat, there are few powers today like the power of printing fiat that people want to hold.
Another essential take on what’s happening in Europe from Galbraith:
Easy to blame cartoon villains like Berlusconi, and there’s certainly blame to be put there, but the main problem is much larger and not as simple as “swarthy lazy southerners!” which is drummed into everyone so constantly that they don’t even recognize it for what it is.
Yeah, as I wrote a German FB friend this morning, Greece’s “progress” to having a bankster PM is just progress toward debt-slavery; maybe they should just go right (back) to the generals, who might even care about the country a little. This is global banker-fascism, isn’t it, with NATO as the military enforcer for non-compliants like Libya?