We knew that Joe Biden was scheduled to visit Turkey and Greece this week, but while he was in the region, he swung over to Iraq.
Vice President Biden made an unannounced trip to Baghdad on Tuesday to meet with Iraqi leaders and American troops as the deadline for a draw down of U.S. forces by the end of 2011 approaches.
Biden plans to meet with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and President Jalal Talabani, along with other political leaders, during his two-day visit. The vice president also plans to give remarks at a joint event commemorating American and Iraqi troops.
Biden is hoping to negotiate with Iraqi officials over a continued American presence in the country after the 14,000 remaining troops are withdrawn at the end of the year. Additionally, the White House said Biden will seek diplomatic agreements on trade, energy and political organization while meeting with the Iraqi leaders.
This is pretty ambiguous. “American presence” can be as simple as the diplomatic throng that will remain in Iraq, backed by a private military army. But a couple weeks ago, Gen. Martin Dempsey let slip that military trainers would remain at ten bases in Iraq beyond the December deadline. The top-line statement has always been that all troops will leave, and with the US down to 14,000 troops left, that is nearing reality. But there’s this residual force lurking in the back of everyone’s mind. Nobody will come out and say it, at least until Dempsey did. But in violation of the status of forces agreement, some trainers will stay behind. And now the Vice President enters the country to ensure that will happen.
I’m not that exercised by a few hundred trainers, it’s more the casual violation of law and the wanton prevarications from official sources that grate on me. We cannot quit with the military buildup in practically every country on Earth, even when the people of that country plainly don’t want us there.




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Pardon the O/T, but next door in Iran, the British embassy is being totally trashed.
Biden: “We just don’t know how to quit you.”
Biden’s reputation is that he couldn’t sell ice water in Hell. Let’s hope he lives up to it.
Are there Muslims left to murder? I thought we Murdered them all.
The only hope is after the collapse our country breaks into five or six pieces.
We are certifiable insane including this administration.
OOH, OOH, goody goody: a great big honking giant reason to declare WAR INC on Iran!!! Yay, Team USA USA USA! Let’s go Medieval on EYE-RAN!! /s
We won’t leave willingly. We’ll have to be thrown out.
The “trainers” monicker brings back memories of my childhood; isn’t that what we had in Viet Nam that led to all out war?
Guess there’s still some of that them thar OIL to be sucked outta the Eye-Racky soil ‘n such, so Team USA don’t wanna quit until it’s all sucked out for enrichment of the 1%. Call it “bringing them thar towel-heads a taste of ‘Democracy’… yeah! ‘Freedumb ‘n Democracy’ … that’s the ticket!!!”.
If we’re lucky, the Iraqis will hold Biden as a hostage.
Lawrence Taylor called, he wants his drunken statement back.
I thought we were broke?
I say “break a leg”…..no, I’m serious, break a leg.
It’s a 600 billion plus per year sickness perpetuated by the MIC we were warned about 60 years ago.
I think the MIC and Obama just want to keep troops there because it’s so close to our next “kinetic military action”.
How unsporting of the Iranians. Close to a million Iraqi children died during Clinton-era sactions there, even though the justifications for those sanctions were bogus. Why can’t the Iranians just be nice and play along?
That’s a big 10-4…”trainers and military advisors”.
There’s always money for war…always.
Ifn we had only LISTENED to Ike. Now we be in a heep a shit!
And, to quote “Jed Clampett” (kinda), “It’s some kind a special dollars. Billions dollars.”
Them and that damn “ayatollah” what’s-his-name are just rabble rousers and malcontents. Not to mention Ahaaminaahimejad.
You know how it is — they somehow managed to get our oil under their sand. Can’t let that stand, nosireebob!
Hmm how are we going to protect the big boys assets if we pull out. We didn’t spend all this money and blood for our corporations to be worried that their plunder might get taken away from them.
Yes, but how the Iraquis will regret it. Think O. Henry’s “The Ransom of Red Chief.”
What’s that got to do with anything??
Well hell yeah! ALL the world’s resources belong to the 1% and doncha fergit it! Gimme, gimme, gimme…. and STFU aboudit already.
No war like an endless war!
Maybe someone will throw their shoe at Biden. I’d pay to see that happen!
Maybe it’ll be an iron boot….
We gots ta be pertected aginst them thar terrrrists ‘n stuff… Al Kidey niver did git gone from Eye-Rack, ya know… not that it’s Team USA’s fault or whotiver…
We can dream on…
Good point. They’d wind up paying the US to take him back.
Iraqis to Americans: “How can we miss you when you WON’T GO AWAY?”
Hope the guy has a better arm the the piker who missed Bush boy.
Shorter Biden to Iraq: Dick Cheney hasn’t RIPPED YOU OFF enough yet to satisfy his pulsating piggy heart… OINK OINK… cough up more OIL, you ingrates!
Did they send him with a catcher’s mask????
It MAY be their oil but it’s OUR damn wells. ‘Nuf said.
BTW Joe, see if you can find any of OUR missing $5 Billion. Look in the seat cushions.
That’s hysterical! Picture him at a press conference wearing one. The new formal garb for diplomatic personnel visiting Iraq.
We need to keep enough military in Iraq to instigate a further occupation, so what better way than to ensure that some of the “trainers” are there outside of the law? In for a penny, in for a pound.
Wasn’t it the Democrats who were making a big deal about taking the cost of Iraq out of budget? Obama and the Democrats should explain themselves as to who is going to pay for this continued adventure…are they going to not let soldiers retire until they’re 65 and they’ll have to put their retirement in the stockmarket?
Well of course he did. I didn’t think that we were going to let the world’s second largest oil reserves go their own way. Nor were the warbots so diligently saber-rattling at Iran, going to allow that big Shiite majority in Iraq find their own relationship with Iran.
The question is, if Biden is successful, what will Sadr do?
Ike’s successor was murdered a mere 20 months after he gave that warning.
The republic has been dead since.
a lot of Iraqis hate Biden for suggesting that Iraq be divided into three countries…
There’s no violation of any law. There aren’t even any original documents in English. And it’s not a SOFA.
There is (purportedly) a Withdrawal Agreement (AKA Strategic Agreement) and a Strategic Framework Agreement. All we have are unofficial translations of Arabic documents. The Withdrawal Agreement includes: All the United States Forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory no later than December 31, 2011.
This was all done by Bush on the sly by executive privilege, without congressional involvement, but with the assistance of Obama/Biden (to avoid constitutional senate advice & consent) in the Fall of 2008. There was full democratic involvement on the Iraqi side.
The US has military forces, advisors and trainers in dozens of countries. What’s one more.