Steve Randy Waldman gives the last word on how the banks were bailed out, contra the popular opinion that TARP “worked.” I appreciate this analogy:
Suppose my kid’s meth habit got the best of him. He’s needs to come up with $100K quick or his dealer’s gonna whack him. But he’s a good kid, really! Coulda happened to anyone. So I “lend” him the money, even though he has no visible means of support and the sketchiest loan sharks in town wouldn’t give him the time of day. Now I believe in bootstraps and hard work, individualism and self-reliance. So I tell my son. “Son, you are going to pay me back every penny of that loan. You are going to work it off. I have arranged with one of my golf buddies, a guy who owes me a favor or three, a job that pays $200K a year. You’d better show up every day at 9 a.m. and sit behind that desk, and get me back my money!” And he does! After a year, he’s made me whole. What a good kid.
No bail out, right? He paid me back every penny! Worked it off!
Bullshit. The opportunity I provided him, the $200K job that he would not otherwise received without my intercession was a huge grant. On the open market, if I were to accept bribes from the highest bidder to wangle the job from my friend, that opportunity would be worth more than the $100K advanced. I paid my son’s loan with my own money. I just obscured the cash flows, so my son and I can pretend and sustain our mutual self-regard and our righteous disdain for the moochers and the hippies and the riff-raff.
Let’s just stop pretending here, OK? The value of the free money that banks got – are still getting – is far bigger than they would have ever been able to raise on their own. The banks didn’t earn their way back to help, they were nursed.
But a funny thing has happened. One of the ways in which the big banks were paid off was through an artificially high credit rating based on the assumption that they would always get bailed out if they got into trouble. This was a major advantage for them over their competitors. And now it’s gone:
Standard & Poor’s Ratings Services has lowered its credit ratings for many of the world’s largest financial institutions, including the biggest banks in the U.S.
Bank of America Corp. and its main subsidiaries are among the institutions whose ratings fell at least one notch Tuesday, along with Citigroup Inc., Goldman Sachs Group Inc., JPMorgan Chase & Co., Morgan Stanley and Wells Fargo & Co.
S&P said the changes in 37 financial companies’ ratings reflect the firm’s new criteria for banks, and they incorporate shifts in the industry and the role of governments and central banks worldwide. The agency did not release its evaluation of each company but said it plans to discuss the changes during a conference call early Wednesday.
S&P, in other words, doesn’t think it’s a slam dunk that the big banks will get bailed out anymore. I’d introduce them to the Federal Reserve, where the bailouts flow all day long, including just this morning. So I’m not so sure.
But this could trigger a real death spiral for Bank of America. They may have to put up more collateral on their derivatives contracts, and their liquidity is threatened (though today’s announcement from central banks blunts that). BofA’s stock is trading around $5 a share, a real danger zone, because below that point trading may be difficult:
Beyond the S&P downgrade, trading could become even more complicated in Bank of America’s stock, if it falls below $5. Under that threshold, many broker-dealers will not allow investors to buy or short a stock on margin, according to a spokesperson for the New York Stock Exchange.
Buying on margin means that an investor can simply put down 50% of the price of a stock initially, and the trading firm advances the rest.
Maybe S&P is looking at the fact that, with all the legacy mortgage exposure and headwinds from Europe and elsewhere, there isn’t a way to unwind these zombie banks. Bank of America will be the first test case.




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So, BofA, which S&P has rated at investment grade a-, has a stock price hovering around $5, and the total value of the lawsuits already filed against it could well exceed BofA’s market cap on their own.
What do you have to do to get a “B”, have a reactor melt down?
Boxturtle (If BofA’s spreadsheet was homework, the best it could hope for would be D-)
Couldn’t have happened to a better bunch of crooks and liars.
That’s because you don’t know the magical spells necessary to cook the books.
Wanting too-big-to-fail BofA to fail? Yes… Wanting financial stability? Yes… Unfortunately, it’s a serious disconnect. What to do?…
http://www.theamericanhuman.com/2011/11/united-field-theory-of-woe.html
Wish I knew.
Calvin Ross
True. But I know the recipe requires sulfur. Because every time I go past a BofA location, I smell brimstone.
Boxturtle (I used to hear evil laughter too, but not anymore!)
Since the SEC regulates the credit ratings, and on Sep 30, criticized them, including for having conflicts of interest–because they are paid by the very banks they rate!–did the SEC have a role in this addition to the “formula” S&P is now using? Did the SEC approve it? Are they supposed to? And on and on.
S&P being thought credible on anything, let alone financial ratings is laughable.
I guess what this mass downgrade really means is the “pay for ratings” window has closed.
It’s a shame Hallmark doesn’t have a greeting card for this.
My guesses:
1) The SEC had no role in the actual decision, but may have threatened S&P to keep the ratings high enough that we don’t have a bank failure just because of it.
2) The formula S&P uses is basically the instincts of it’s analyists. I doubt there’s a program that is fed the banks raw numbers and spits out a A-.
3) We’ll know shortly. If they didn’t approve, you’ll see them go after S&P for their earlier ratings. If they did approve, a quiet settlement will be forthcoming.
4) No. The SEC should have no input into the private ratings decisions. They frequently do, I suspect, but other than regulation they shouldn’t. And they don’t regulate if they don’t have to.
Boxturtle (#1 is going to be a close call for BofA and maybe Citi)
Standard and Poors’ ratings destroy information.
Quite literally worse than useless.
Edit: Not that I have a problem with this particular set of downgrades, other than too little, too late.
“#1 is going to be a close call for BofA and maybe Citi”
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Gonna be a photo-finish IMO.
D-Day: BTW, I just LOVED the “meth habit” analogy. Or is that a metaphor? Doesn’t matter. Just hope it was hypothetical.
I’ve heard rumors that some meth-heads recover, and are no longer a drag on their families, OTOH …
Many, many thanks, BT. Clarity is one of your trademarks, which is why your comments are always noted.
Research background here (complete transparency, peer review, etc.), so this stuff just amazes me.
S & P, now that everybody knows BOA is going down, and the public has witnessed the entire American banking industry soil their pants over the European ‘debt’ crisis, has decided it better make a show of doing it’s job by lowering the banks ratings.
Sort of a CYA move.
This quote from your link surely instills great confidence: “S&P ratings have almost no correlation with future default risk.”
You did see the word “guesses”, right?
Boxturtle (Don’t make investment decisions based on my posts. Use your 8-Ball!)
That’a what I was going to say. I guess if we can’t put them in jail then bankruptcy will have to do.
Their A’s are still showing. Anybody who gives BofA an A- isn’t covering much. Their rating should be only 1-2 notches above junk. At most.
Boxturtle (But if they called ‘em like the see ‘em, trading in Bofa stock would have been suspended today)
yep, I’ve been using the drug addict analogy for a while. When was the last time you saw a coke addict self regulate?
me either.
BoxTurtle, has anyone told you lately how awesome you are? I love your parentheticals. you rock.
“yep, I’ve been using the drug addict analogy for a while.”
And a lot of drug addicts have told me they resent the comparison.
PLLLLLEEEEAAASSSEEE tell me you’re a cute blonde female over 18!
Boxturtle (With my luck, youre a 350lb, bald FBI agent who likes to play with pepper spray)
ROFLMAO! I’m somewhere in between cute blonde and bald FBI agent. either way, I’m taken. But I’ll cheer you on any day!
It’s ironic that BofA is going down so soon in spite of the non-release of the WikiLeaks documents.
If you lend anyone (a person, a bank, a corporation, a tree stump) an unlimited amount of money at 0.1%, how could they possibly *not* make enough money to pay back the loan?
(Especially in an environment where others are strapped for cash, things are being sold at fire sale prices, and you can re-lend the money out at usurious rates).
Is this what capitalism looks like?
I thought it odd that the ratings were made after hours. I bet your surmisation on #1 had something to do with when the downgrade was made.
BoA is treading water. Todays announcement from the Fed and other central banks was probably the only thing that saved it from becoming a penny stock.
Oh don’t be fooled they’re making money. They just aren’t doing it fast enough to line the pockets of their 6 figure ceos and to cover all the loans that people decided not to repay on houses, cars, and credit purchases.
Ok this gets my vote best post of the year!
This is gold for us and garlic to GOP vampires!
Maybe S&P doesn’t think that even Obama can steal enough SS and Medicare to save the banks.
Holy Shit! if BOA falls this could trigger a run on all the banks.
Hilarious! Hold on, let me catch my breath.
He means he stole the graft from his friend but his son didn’t pay him! Sounds like the son is a chip off the old block.
This is a ridiculous “explanation” of the government “aid” to BOA. BOA, if it did pay back its loan in 2 years, was doing a lot more nasty business. The government aid would be in ignoring that.
Um, you aren’t paranoid enough and you still have some illusions to be shattered. The ownership society was a con. A means of conscripting the domestic compradors.
Sorry.
H Dog K’s realpolitik was destined to be brought to the citizens once you impose the vision that there is no society.
There is a lefter left, I’m sure you know.