Democrats signaled that they would not acquiesce to Republican demands for poison-pill policy changes as a condition for passing an extension of the payroll tax cut, and that they would keep Congress in session through the holidays if they didn’t get the extension done.
First, Nancy Pelosi spoke about riders to Brian Beutler. Republicans have readied a series of spending rescissions and policy shifts that they will try to extract in exchange for their votes on the payroll tax cut, even while stating in public that they support the policy. Pelosi claimed that wouldn’t fly.
“It is really a stalling tactic,” Pelosi said of recent reports that Republicans want to use the lapsing tax cut as leverage to pass key GOP priorities, including construction of a major oil pipeline from the Canadian border to the Gulf of Mexico, and rolling back Obama’s health care law. “It’s unworthy of the needs of the American people for them to go all around the mulberry bush with this stuff. If they want to do something for the American people — to remove the uncertainty as to whether these payroll tax cuts will be extended, whether [unemployment insurance] will be extended … let’s just get about doing it.”
“They know that this stuff isn’t going to fly, that the President’s not going to sign it — so why are they doing this,” Pelosi says. “It’s about votes at the end of the day, and some of their people are never going to vote for anything, so they’re going to need our votes, we’re going to have to work together, and they’re going to need the President’s signature — and they’re going to need it to pass the Senate.”
This is the key point from Pelosi, that Democratic votes will be needed to pass anything, which gives her a voice in the process. A meeting last night in the House GOP caucus showed clearly that there is a major rift between the rank and file and the House leadership on the issue. Lots of Republicans just don’t want to do the tax cut at all. That gives Pelosi an opportunity.
And she’s on board with using war savings, with a capping of the overseas contingency operations (OCO) budget, to offset the tax cuts. As Pelosi says, you could use an OCO cap (a budget quirk caused by how war spending is scored
based on the previous year’s funding) to pay for the payroll tax, a patch to the alternative minimum tax, and the doc fix to avoid Medicare reimbursement cuts, and still have hundreds of billions of dollars leftover. She added that extending unemployment insurance, which has never been paid for before, shouldn’t be paid for now.
That pot of money is going to be very attractive, because while it’s an accounting gimmick it represents scoreable savings that are a far better offset than spending cuts or even tax increases. Republicans have resisted this but they used an OCO cap in their own budget.
Meanwhile, the President threatened to hold Congress in session over Christmas if no payroll tax legislation arrived on his desk:
Mr. Obama, during an appearance on Friday with former President Bill Clinton to promote energy efficiency in buildings, suggested that Congress should delay its holiday adjournment if the payroll tax cut impasse was not resolved.
“I expect that it’s going to get done before Congress leaves,” Mr. Obama said. “Otherwise Congress may not be leaving, and we can all spend Christmas here together.”
Dan Pfeiffer also tweaked Republicans today on the White House blog with past GOP statements of support for a payroll tax cut.
I think this will proceed with Republicans in the House finding some version of the payroll tax they can live with, something littered with special interest goodies or right-wing policy measures. It will either barely pass or just fail. Then there will be a lot of finger-pointing, as the Senate keeps throwing up payroll tax ideas that Senate Republicans block. By this point we’ll get to the December 16 deadline for a bill to fund government operations, which will have the same dynamic, with Republicans wanting to add policy riders or offset disaster relief spending. Then you might see a kitchen-sink bill with all of these disparate elements. Or, maybe you won’t, and the payroll tax will return to its historical rate, providing a fiscal drag on the economy, as well as a lot of blame-gaming.
UPDATE: In addition to this, the President has planned a speech on Tuesday, December 6, in Osawatomie, Kansas (site of where Teddy Roosevelt made his speech on the New Nationalism in 1910) about the economy. From the release:
The President will talk about how he sees this as a make-or-break moment for the middle class and all those working to join it. He’ll lay out the choice we face between a country in which too few do well while too many struggle to get by, and one where we’re all in it together – where everyone engages in fair play, everyone does their fair share, and everyone gets a fair shot.
This could have a limited impact on the debate. Incidentally, Osawatomie is the speech where Teddy Roosevelt backed universal health care, something like Social Security and a progressive income tax. It also included this line: “To destroy this invisible Government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.”




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P&O will cave in 5, 4, 3, ….
OT-Breaking News: Cain not able to continue, suspends campaign.
Anyone want to take a stab at explaining this. Our govt goes on about Iran, it is a threat, it needs to be stopped blah blah and then I read this.
According to the FMN Logistics, the Washington DC-based logistics company that oversees the NDN and provides “full supply-chain management to ensure the smooth transit of(European Union) government cargo from various Ports of Entry including Riga, Latvia;
Poti, Georgia; Mersin, Turkey and Bandar Abbas, Iran, through to multiple NATO/ ISAF camps in North and South Afghanistan,”
Does that make any since that we would be shipping tons of weapons through Iran?
I am more and more starting to think that at the highest levels they are all working together and what we see is the parts they have agreed to play for the public.
The payroll tax break provides damn little real money to average workers while eroding the financial base of Social Security. Democrats are shitty little weasles, not to insult the nobility of weasles in general..
guess he didn’t have the same protection clinton had when running. it pays to let the cia run drugs through your airport and assist with iran contra
*mockchiding*
News? That’s not news, you can’t call that news, we all saw this coming the day he announced!
Good riddance, too!
*/mockchiding*
*G*
Had not heard, thanks RC . . . *waves*
:)
Is he getting more than he can handle ?
Uh, yeah, well known that is, too, ma’am. But it always bears repeating . . . GLOBAL corporate fascism, bankers, financers, wealthy families of hundreds of years, all pullin the strings to enslave the masses.
An ages old tale, I guess . . . ;-)
Agreed in full, and certainly the part about weasels and the lack of nobility amongst erected offals (yeah, I twisted that up a bit).
*G*
Great update again Mr. Dayen, thanks. The Kabuki is never ending.
These asshats rotate villians n good guys better n any Mel Brooks movie . . .
“The payroll tax break provides damn little real money to average workers while eroding the financial base of Social Security. Democrats are shitty little weasles, not to insult the nobility of weasles in general..”
Absolutely correct. The Democrats have now bought into the idea that financing our entitlement programs is at odds with “stimulating” the economy. Bet Ronnie Raygun is looking down and wondering why he didn’t come up with that bullshit.
You do know the difference between foxes and weasels ?
A fox will enter the chicken coop to kill a chicken to feed it’s family where a weasel will go in the coop to kill them all then go to the next chicken coop.
Sounds like the perfect description.
Somewhere, Kissinger silently weeps.
The real news, amigo, is that the righties can now stop pretending that they don’t hate black people. It must have been such a strain on them the last few months, the poor dears. Of course, Herman only “suspended,” so he can continue to accept donations. In case anybody here has any extra cash lol.
Yeah, from his wife, I would imagine lol.
LOL “elected offals” Mind if I steal that?
Heh. Most likely into somebody’s large bosom. ;-)
I feel better already. Democrats suck.
Obama Delusional Syndrome is a serious disease that can strike anyone who gives up thinking for themselves. Why does Obama and his sycophants hate Social Security?
Cutting Social Security funding is necessary because Social Security is a great success. Petey Peterson wants it all and his puppet Obama will help him get it. This Delusion is that the “General Fund” owned by Timmy Geithner will be used to help working people. Timmy helping working people? HA HA HA!
Another Delusion, destroying Social Security is “Winning” for these people. Everyone of the Pro Lefties certainly did whine about Obama caving and adopting the Bushie Tax Cuts for the rich. But it was not caving. That is what Wall Street wanted. Obama is the President of the One Percent. He always caves and he always will cave. The Bushie/Obama Tax Cuts are permanent. The Defunding of Social Security is permanent. Unless the PL’s can stop Obama’s War Against Social Security.
Congratulations. You’re the point of cynicism I reached in 1980. Think of how frustrating the past 31 years have been knowing there’s absolutely no difference between the only two parties in the game.
Obama won’t let the Republicans go home until they shaft Social Security?
How is that going to get him votes from us little people? (Oh wait, we still have those nifty machines.)
I hope Teddy Roosevelt’s ghost comes by and gives him the collywobbles up his spine – oh wait, he doesn’t have… (need I continue?)
They are an important animal in the food chain. http://mustalidrescue.wordpress.com/
They are predators but also prey, and they control rats, mice, and snakes.
When you demonize them then some people feel justified in wiping them out instead of strengthening their chicken coops.