Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is attempting a high-stakes gamble, tying the payroll tax/unemployment insurance legislation that the House will vote on today with the omnibus spending bill to avoid a government shutdown. Without compromise on the former, according to Reid, the latter cannot pass.
Here are some remarks from Reid on the Senate floor from a few minutes ago:
I spoke to the Speaker yesterday. This is what I told him: we are not going to finish the work of our country this year unless we work together.
He can’t pass anything in the House without Democratic votes, because anything you pass with strictly Republican votes fails over here.
In the Senate, we can’t pass anything unless we get Republican votes. It’s a fact of life.
And we have issues, we must complete this year. As I explained to the Speaker yesterday, we have to do this together.
So I’m very disappointed in what the Speaker has done to his payroll tax proposal to get Tea Party votes.
Speaker Boehner had to add ideological candy coating to his bill to get rebellious, rank-and-file Republicans on board.
It goes further than that, however. Not only will Reid block the payroll tax/UI legislation as it stands, he vowed the Senate would reject the omnibus, just negotiated by House and Senate appropriators, without a compromise agreement.
The appropriations work was nearly complete and Republican aides were pushing the idea that umbrella legislation to fund most of the government lay on a separate table from the payroll holiday. If the appropriations bills were to pass smoothly, House Republicans could have separately lobbed Senate Dems their payroll bill, and left for the holidays knowing the government wouldn’t shut down.
That’s when Democratic aides started rumbling that the appropriations bills weren’t ready to go. Indeed, according to top aides Reid is negotiating them as a unit with the payroll tax cut and other issues to limit the GOP’s ability to extract Democratic concessions. That means the GOP will have one shot — not two — at forcing the Dems to adopt their riders, and Dems are pressing them to drop proposed restrictions five key issues: public funding for abortions in DC, funding for the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, DOD coal mine reclamation, efficiency standards for light bulbs, and travel to Cuba.
I knew about the Cuba travel restrictions, but not the other riders in the appropriations package. But this is more about gaining leverage for the payroll tax cut and unemployment insurance, I think. The House wanted to pass its legislation and force the Senate to agree, so the Democrats used the omnibus spending bill to block House Republicans from jamming the Senate with the bill, passing it and leaving town. Either all the year-end measures move or none of them move, according to Reid. And that gives the Democrats a negotiating position.
Meanwhile, the government shuts down December 16, so there’s not much time for an agreement. The best-case scenario for an agreement, paradoxically, might be a failure in the House on their bill today. That would rid them of leverage over the final product, and potentially force acceptance of a bill that can pass the Senate. But Senate Republicans have been unbending in their own right. I think the chances are elevated that nothing happens, and the government could even shut down on Friday.
Whatever the outcome, Reid certainly made a bold tactical move to head off a tough choice for his party.
UPDATE: And another development. The White House officially threatened a veto of the House payroll tax/UI bill. The odds of no agreement are rising.




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Three years late. If the Democrats are serious they will stop whining and just fucking do it. Same for Obama. I will veto. Period. Next subject. We’ll see what happens but I’m not holding my breath.
I think the chances are elevated that nothing happens, and the government could even shut down on Friday.
please we have seen this play too many times. dog and pony show, no shutdown
The funny thing is that after all the theater from Obama, the payroll tax extension will end up as it could have ended up a month ago–passed without any gimmicks from left or right. Dems won’t get their tax and the GOP won’t get Keystone.
They have all wasted our time and attention on baloney. They could have agreed to the stripped down bill they are going to pass before they began the dog and pony.
People are fed up with the games played by Obama AND the GOP.
Look at all this running around the country trying to “find his voice.” A three month effort that resulted in……one point improvement to his approval rating.
Let’s cut the crap, directly dog it out. Yeah, duke it out directly with direct talks and cut the crap. Let the chips fall where they may. Not spend months to end up where it all began.
If it means they get to permanently screw around with Social Security’s financing, the Ds and Rs will find a way. Then, once the queen termite has been implanted, the rest of SS funding will be nibbled away by these insects in years to come.. All for about 20 dollars a week of tax “relief”..
The interesting thing is that Reid mentioned he needs to have GOP votes to pass anything. Odd, since he has never tried to craft some common bill over the last month. His only approach was same as the GOP, try to “work” the other side and make them look bad.
“Either all the year-end measures move or none of them move, according to Reid. And that gives the Democrats a negotiating position.”
For Dems this sort of thing is a “bold tactical move” to achieve a “negotiating position.”
For Reps it’s obstructionism designed to destroy the Republic.
Whatever…
It’s hard to see how this gives Reid & the Dems any real leverage. A government shutdown is what the Republicans have been seemingly trying to achieve for the past year. Why wouldn’t they just say “go ahead and shut it down”? Whatever happens or doesn’t happen they are planning to “blame” on 0bama and the Democrats anyway. 0bama’s veto threat seemed about half-way credible, but Reid playing the Republican hostage-taking game, not so much.
I would bet that NOTHING gets passed, and we have the stupid short-term continuing resolutions circus again, with Republicans wresting control of the hostage from Reid and forcing all kinds of objectionable concessions in that arena. Reid and 0bama don’t play hard-ball; they always capitulate. The 99% will get the shaft again, and our fearless leaders will whimper that they had no other alternative.
The extension of the payroll tax cut will not create jobs or give a whole lot of help to working people but it will set up Social Security for future dismantling. It’s a gimmick designed for the 2012 elections by the Democrats who think this will help them win. It might just backfire.
I just received an email from my Republican senator (I have to agree to accept his emails if I want to send him pre-fab emails from any organizations). In it, there was a poll about the payroll tax cut but before the poll there was this:
Of course, I know that, as a Republican, he’s itching to destroy SS. That doesn’t negate his point about Social Security being a program for workers financed by workers. I do know that his own poll had about 84% agreeing with him. My formerly popular Democratic senator is currently polling at 47% approval with 44% disapproval and this is in a pretty blue state.
“Of course, I know that, as a Republican, he’s itching to destroy SS.”
Oh, “of course.” After all, everyone “knows” that Republicans are just itching to destroy SS: they’ve only been sitting on their hands for over 75 years because… uh… err… um….
Well it’s got to be some sort of nefarious plot, right?
Sitting on their hands??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_debate_%28United_States%29#George_W._Bush.27s_privatization_proposal
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3308
The nine appropriations nine bills that would provide the funding and broadly divvy it up for the rest of fiscal year 2012, after Congress earlier passed a series of short-term stopgap measures, are in the hopper.
I am not not certain what is the “omnibus spending bill” that is being discussed.
We want, and Obama promised, a veto of the Defense appropriations bill over indefinite detention, so I hope they have not rolled that into a bigger package so as to bury it with a victory on a one year 2% payroll tax holiday and a UI extension but with max UI of only 52 weeks in the new extension rather than the 99 weeks in the old extension.
Oh, please. Aside from the fact that Bush’s proposal would have been voluntary on the part of workers you seem to have forgotten that Bill Clinton’s similar Social Security commission also recommended partial privatization.
Maybe Bill was a closet Republican?
Bill Clinton ignored his commission and instead a few months after its report gave his State of the Union where he rejected the idea of substituting private accounts for part of Social Security – and instead he proposed an additional add on benefit for the payroll tax system – a VOLUNTARY additional withholding that would go into a 401k/IRA like pension saving account, administered by Social Security.
The GOP rejected the IRA via payroll deduction for anyone that wants one.
Bush TOOK SS PAYROLL TAX FROM SS AND REDUCED THE BENEFIT – ALBEIT “voluntary”
Bill Clinton LEFT THE SS TAX AND BENEFIT UNTOUCHED – IT WAS AN ADDITIONAL BENEFIT IF YOU WANTED IT.
There is a bit of difference.
“There is a bit of difference.”
A small bit: Clinton’s plan was “in addition to” whereas Bush’s plan was “instead of.” Both would have been voluntary, neither actually happened. That hardly proves frang’s contention that Republicans are “itching” to destroy SS, now does it?
Hell, IMO social security is in more danger now than ever before, and which party is currently in charge?