Regarding the payroll tax cut deal, apparently the plan is for a straight up-or-down vote tonight on the measure. House Speaker John Boehner promised that the vote would fail:
Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said he expects House Republicans to reject a Senate-passed payroll tax cut package later Monday and then head into an eleventh-hour conference to hammer out a new, longer-term deal.
During brief remarks to reporters, Boehner said Americans are “tired of Washington’s short-term fixes and gimmicks” and that the two-month deal passed by the Senate, and backed by the White House, would not last long enough.
“We oppose the Senate bill because doing the two-month extension instead of a full year extension causes uncertainty for job creators,” Boehner said. “I expect that the House will disagree with the Senate amendment and instead vote to formally go to conference. … And I expect the House to take up legislation that reinforces the need to extend the payroll tax relief for a full year rather than just two months.”
Senate Democrats continue to maintain that they have completed their work and will not re-open negotiations. In a statement, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said that “If Republicans vote down the bipartisan compromise negotiated by Republican and Democratic leaders, and passed by 89 senators including 39 Republicans, their intransigence will mean that in ten days, 160 million middle class Americans will see a tax increase, over two million Americans will begin losing their unemployment benefits, and millions of senior citizens on Medicare could find it harder to receive treatment from physicians.”
That’s certainly a hardball stance. But Reid reiterated that Boehner empowered him and Mitch McConnell to come up with a deal, and that this was what they decided, and 89 Senators agreed with it. Boehner tried to backpedal away from these facts today, saying that “I made perfectly clear to Sen. Reid and Sen. McConnell sometime mid-last week that I would not enter into negotiations with them until the Senate produced a bill. The Senate produced a bill; we expressed our reservations.” Needless to say, there’s a communication breakdown here.
So this looks like an impasse. Boehner will have the House vote down the Senate bill today and request a conference; Reid refuses to negotiate until the Senate bill passes. Furthermore, even if negotiations were opened up it’s not clear there’s a path forward for an agreement at this time; that was the whole reason that the two-month stopgap became the compromise deal in the first place.
House Republicans may not want to take up this deal in February, but why they think that allowing the deal to collapse in December is a better idea isn’t clear.
UPDATE: Forgot to mention Scott Brown’s statement, where he says “The House Republicans’ plan to scuttle the deal to help middle-class families is irresponsible and wrong.” Senate Republicans really got hosed by their House counterparts on this. They voted almost unanimously for the stopgap, only to see the House Republicans reject it.




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So, Elizabeth Warren’s candidacy has made a difference to Scott Brown’s positions already, hmmm?
Let us remember this lesson when told someone has a solid seat and should not be challenged/primaried….
Hey Tejan great point. We need to be like the Tea Party in this respect. IMHO! Sorry I missed you at Caturday.
Sorry I misssed you, too, popeye. I was quite late. Off at a local performance of Nutcracker, y’know. It was fun. Surrounded by little girls in red and black velvet, white tulle skirts, etc. (in the audience, I mean). And parents applauding when their kid appeared on the stage. Lots of kids in the ballet, cute as the dickens.
And now back to our regularly scheduled horror show of news…
David D
You have added such a great body of information to this website that it is way more informative and broader in coverage now.
Thanks Big Brother and Merry Christmas
To be honest, I don’t care about this bill. Yes, it means more money out of my check, but frankly it shouldn’t have been taken out to begin with. It didn’t stimulate the economy and it is not a wedge issue I care about.
This will merely be used as a tool by the Democrats to go “Oh.. oh, they forced me to give in on ..”
It isn’t going to matter and the Democrats are worthless. I was looking at Huffington Post reading how “this is a gift for the Democrats” really? It doesn’t make me want to vote for a Democrat any more than a Republican. You gave away our taxes to millionaires, give us a sliver off the top and you give up even more to let us keep it?
How about instead you pass meaningful healthcare reform? How about you stop the encroachment on our civil liberties, turn back our executive branch and big brother by a decade. Focus on the important things.
This is all window dressing and being built up.. “What we could have not foreseen this issue coming up right on the edge of a recess!!”
So tired of seeing this kabuki play out. I’m voting for Ron Paul or whichever 3rd party suits my fancy when next November rolls around. Order of operation is:
- 3rd party
- Anyone else
- Democrat
- Republican
This system is worthless.
Right On! Vote Rocky Anderson and register with the Justice Party.
System is not worthless it’s just broken like my old car. The mechanic said it could be fixed easily by just jacking up the headlights and putting a new car underneath.
My,my,my a “straight up or down vote”, sending the bill to a joint conference, what next? The things that Republicans refused to do all year and now it’s crunch time and I really hope that Boner gets “crunched” on this. I am not really holding out much hope though because the Dims always cave.
So, to summarize, intransigence by the Republicans inadvertently saves SS from more gutting via the payroll tax cut, but senior citizens take it in the shorts over the Medicare doc fix and the unemployed get hosed once again.
I pretty much decided this is not something I want to get invested in, one way or the other. Have at it guys.
Yep that about sums it up. Sigh!
Chickenshit argument over a chickenshit proposal.
Hopefully, no matter what our side of the aisle gets a vehicle similar to the “Tea Party” to ensure that even if the Democratic Party declares a candidate “good enough” that it isn’t just the party’s few powerbrokers that get to determine if they truly are “good enough.”
Have they officially put out a platform yet?
What I have read about Anderson seems stellar but I really would like to see officially what the party’s priorities will be.
Are you a dyspeptic disgruntled dreamer, or a 21st Century “Tommy the Traveler”? A third party candidate from the left would just increase the odds of President Mitt or President Ron.
You sound like the “purists” from my anti-war days, fighting over the Lenin/Stalin/Trotskyite/Maoist synthesis.
Also known, by the people counseling resisters, hiding deserters, and counseling PTSD vets (before PTSD existed, when they were just FU’ed), as the cocktail party Communists.
This nation will, come Jan 2013, have a President from either the Democratic or Republican Party. You may take that to the bank. If the Democratic Party wins, that President will be named Barack Obama, barring Acts of God and assassins.
YOUR options, if you cannot approve Barack Obama, have been on your boob tube ad nauseum. To which of them would you entrust the powers of the Executive, and WHY?
In short, are you SERIOUS?
Seems the vote is now Tuesday night.
Guess you have not noticed that GOP objectives that Democrats mormally would kill are getting approved under Obama because is leading the the approval process for those GOP objectives – only occasionally blaming “the devil made me do it or UE would have ended” as in the 2 year extension of all the Bush tax cuts with the toss in of a cut in the estate tax rate that the GOP HAD not even asked for.
The Dems cave because Obama is the leader and they are loyal.
If you are interested in stopping the GOP’s objectives why would you not want a GOPer to replace Obama? Obama sure as hell is not going to stop anything the GOP wants – indeed the next “grand bargain” will offer up stuff the GOP only have wet dreams about and have never had the guts to ask for.
Sorry dude, the lesser of two evil horsesh*t doesn’t work with me anymore. Obama has done nothing except push us further to the right and pursued all the same policies as Bush. For a Constitutional Law professor, he is a sham.
You are right, a Republican or Democrat will win, but I will not support either party ever again. Be it local, state or national. They are all the same. As many have put it more eloquently than I have, we are a country of two parties that represent the same interests. It is just that the Democrats talk progressive in the primaries and the right talks crazy. Both sides in the end serve the same masters and unfortunately we aren’t them.
I care less if Obama wins. He was a sham and none of them represent our interests. Sorry.