You buy a hamburger from me and I give you a piece of hard black leather on a bun. You protest and I say, no, I’m still calling it a hamburger, so you got what you asked for. You start running around telling everyone I sell leather as hamburgers, and I get my local fact-checking organization to criticize you, because I clearly call the leather on a bun I sold you “hamburger.” They call you the liar of the year.
That’s basically what happened today, when Politifact named as their “Lie of the Year” the Democratic contention that the Paul Ryan budget ends Medicare. But of course, it does end Medicare. It turns the traditional fee-for-service, single-payer system into a coupon for seniors to go out into the private market and purchase their own health insurance. That bears no resemblance to Medicare in any way, shape or form. But because Ryan still calls it “Medicare,” any claim to the contrary is a lie. In fact, it’s the “Lie of the Year.”
Politifact’s other charge is that people 55 and over would be grandfathered into the old fee-for-service program, so for them, Medicare wouldn’t change, so you can’t say that Medicare will go away for old people. Yes, Ryan added a self-serving addendum to protect his party with baby boomers. But of course, their Medicare service would degrade over time, under the old Ryan plan (this has nothing to do with Ryan-Wyden, where fee-for-service Medicare remains as a choice, along with premium support). If new 65 year-olds aren’t coming into the system, the risk pool both shrinks and gets older and sicker year after year. That would necessarily raise the costs of Medicare, and the changes that would need to be made to the program to adapt to that would change it irrevocably. But you know, lie.
I think Paul Krugman’s going to go to the Politifact offices with a switchblade after this one:
The new scheme would still be called “Medicare”, but it would bear little resemblance to the current system, which guarantees essential care to all seniors.
How is this not an end to Medicare? And given all the actual, indisputable lies out there, how on earth could saying that it is be the “Lie of the year”?
The answer is, of course, obvious: the people at Politifact are terrified of being considered partisan if they acknowledge the clear fact that there’s a lot more lying on one side of the political divide than on the other. So they’ve bent over backwards to appear “balanced” — and in the process made themselves useless and irrelevant.
This new mania for “fact-checkers” in the media makes the implicit assumption that the fact-checkers are neutral arbiters that couldn’t possibly be swayed by outside forces. Of course, the fact that Ryan sent out encouragement to his supporters to contact Politifact and make the Ryan budget claim the Lie of the Year, and voila! it becomes Lie of the Year, should put an end to that. But what Krugman says above is also correct. Politifact is just as susceptible to false equivalence as everyone else in the media. Their track record, especially now, does not hold them up to any claim of being keeper of the facts.





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Last year, it was Sarah Palin’s “death panel” charge. I guess they need to criticize “both sides” to appear unbiased.
All the 54 year olds will be so relieved that Politifact has said Ryan’s plan won’t get rid of Medicare, because those pesky other details sure aren’t going to make it into a one line news trailers.
I figured, when it first appeared in the list of nominees, that it would be chosen.
Then when they made it a “you vote for the winner” method of choosing, that clinched it. Of course, the wingers would stuff the ballot boxes (to use a dated metaphor).
They should be ashamed of ever writing that one; obviously the conclusion was utterly false.
St.Pete Times front page, clearly visible in the machine.
The Times (now TampaBay Times) must be having an internal war going on; they actually do a lot of good op-ed stuff while still printing MSM garbage.
Okay, so let’s talk about Ron Wyden…
I saw the “Lie of the Year” this morning on Tampa Bay Times and was disappointed that they actually had swallowed Ryan’s BS
And as we all know, they are doing it in an attempt to be “fair and balanced” even though the essence of journalism should be to call the BS BS and that is what Ryan’s ‘plan’ is – BS
That piece was WMNF News Director Rob Lorei’s main topic on this morning’s RadioActivity.
Just another neoliberal water carrying asshole.
Remember Ryan is a serious man and he has a serious plan. Politifact and Rasmussen should be ignored completely.
I’ve a serious plan for Ryan but this is a family blog.
Paul Ryan, with his boyish face is a propaganda artist, a proxy attacking the American people and their constitution. Cut the middlemen out of Healthcare (their cut is a third of healthcare costs), and we, the American people save billions. It’s not an ideological fight so lets not be dummies. The fact that Europe pays less, and gets better results is undeniably true. Just follow the money. And when you do, you might find Paul Ryan there, and unfortunately many others, Barak Obama too. Don’t be an ideologue on the issue over health care, because if you are, your probably not thinking for yourself.
The problem is that they’ve published the list of how the votes came out. The top two vote-getters were Republican lies that were actually, demonstrably LIES. They dipped down to their third in the list, with a vote of 16%, to pick their Lie of the Year.
Politifact | How we chose the 2011 Lie of the Year
Can’t find it now and no time to spend searching, but earlier I saw the actual list.
I love the picture with this post. I’ve seen that photo circulate on facebook with the caption as “Paul Krugman; is tired of trying to reason with you mother fuckers.”
It is absurd on its face that “fact checking” should be on the same planet as “popular vote”.
Infuckingcredible.
I long ago gave up the idea that any entity visible in mass media could be trusted completely, and in fact I concluded some time ago that any issue of truth or falsehood that has bearing on a major political issue will never be accurately portrayed in mass media in the US. In particular, if any group or figure is associated with either of the political parties, then just assume anything he/she/it says or reports is just an out-and-out mendacious attempt at PR.
I love that, too! I find I value his opinion less, but love that photo more :)
It’s not absurd, it’s democratic!
Remember, the victor writes the history books.
Oh, unbelievable. I didn’t know that. Jeez, talk about leaning over backwards to be, uh, lessee…I got it! “Fair and balanced.”
Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes will have a lot to answer for in hell. Hmm; this is where I like to fantasize that everybody goes to heaven first – showng up at the pearly gates, I guess – only to be told that they have to take the down elevator, and then, just exactly WHY.
Ruining the best chance at democracy and decent life for the most people by ruining journalism is a pretty good reason for an eternal sentence, imho.
Declaring something a lie by popular vote?
St Pete Times has lost it.
I live in Tampa and I am NOT surprised. The St. Pete, oh excuse me…the TAMPA BAY Times has been a smirky, arrogant MSM rag for several years now, blindly clinging to their “fairness” standards that equate the spin doctoring lies of big institutions with ordinary citizens just trying to get the truth out. Count on the Times to desperately strive for Pulitzer’s by running big “exposes” of easy targets such as the Scientologists and “pill mills” while avoiding the big subjects that are really vexing America. But, hey, Politifact won a Pulitzer so it must be great, right?…..right?
Ryancare is EXACTLY like Obamacare… a giant corrupt giveaway to the health insurance industry.
Thats a FACT.
Our entire government are nothing but a bunch of crooks.
Thats also a FACT.
Distorting something beyond all recognition from its original form while retaining its name doesn’t mean it remains as originally constituted.
Taking the sausage out of its casing, filling it with shit, and still calling it Kielbasa doesn’t mean its still Kielbasa.
Bingo.
Using this brilliant logic, if a popular product a company sells has some major problems with it, and need to be reformed, once it’s reformed, and performs the same task as the product always has, the company MUST call the product something else?
Kneaded and licked to death by orange tabby kittehs?
*G*
Thanks Mr. Dayen for your constant coverage of all things important . . . I sure hope the proggy blogosphere influences the MSM and Politifact goes down in public flames, rendered useless to the 1% scum who fund it.
Honestly, that one’s hard to swallow in the context of the “sides” being the legacy parties.
I want to sneak in and wish you a very happy holiday, Larue, in case I miss you in all the whirlwind of the next couple of days.
The conservative crybabies throw tantrums until they get their way, and they do.
Yes, one of the two they overlooked was Jon Kyl’s amazing “90% of Planned Parenthood’s work is abortion,” which he then clarified with the miraculous line “that was not intended to be a factual statement”!
‘stoo bad. Once, the St Pete Times was a real newspaper. (If I don’t misremember.) The slime balls are sucking all the guts out of what used to be our democracy.
Republicans lie. When your entire agenda is to rig the system for the benefit of the greediest, most irresponsible and unpatriotic of the richest 0.1% of the population, then prolific lying is indispensable.
When an organization like Politifact calls out the Republicans for their prolific lying, the Republican response is not to build credibility by adhering more often to the truth, but to accuse Politifact of being part of some imagined “liberal media” conspiracy. Politifact has chosen to expose its own lack of integrity by bending over backwards to appease the crybaby serial liars.
The readers did not choose “end Medicare” as Lie of the Year. The readers voted “the stimulus created zero jobs” as Lie of the Year.
Ryan and his fellow health insurance lobby lackeys in the Republican Party took a “General MacArthur” approach to destroying our nation’s Medicare system. His plan would not have made it immediately die — he simply wanted it to slowly fade away.
… and with it the ability of future senior citizens to obtain affordable chronic condition treatment and preventative health care.
Bottom line — most Congressional Republicans do not have the best interests of the vast majority of Americans at heart … and every day, more and more Americans are coming to this realization.