And there it is. John Boehner has cried uncle. House Republicans will pass the two-month Senate stopgap bill to extend the payroll tax cut, unemployment insurance benefits and a doctor’s fix to avert a 27% cut in Medicare reimbursement rates. In exchange for this cave, Harry Reid will appoint conferees to go into negotiations on a year-long extension of these measures.
The House made the move after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., agreed to appoint conferees to a committee to resolve differences between the Senate’s two-month, 2 percentage point, payroll-tax cut and the House’s one-year alternative.
The House will pass the two-month extension with a technical correction to the language designed to minimize difficulties businesses might experience implementing the short-term, two-month tax cut extension.
I don’t really know what difficulties they’re talking about, since you’re extending current law, but payroll companies have raised this as an issue. This means that the House will have to pass a new bill, and have the Senate agree to it. Then the House and Senate will have to appoint conferees on the new bill. This could all potentially happen without any member of Congress coming back to work. You could pass these by unanimous consent in the pro forma sessions taking place in Congress. We’ll see how the mechanics of this play out.
On the politics, this is a major victory for Democrats and the White House. They forced Boehner to bend to their will, getting a relatively clean two-month extension of these three expiring measures. The pay-for means that first-time homebuyers will pay around $15 a month extra for having Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac guarantee their loans; the hope is that this becomes enough of an expense to get monoline insurers back in the game of private guarantees on mortgates, and shrink the size of the GSEs, which are taking pretty much all the action right now. And then there’s that Keystone XL rider. After this passes, the President and the State Department will have 60 days to approve or deny a permit for construction of the Keystone XL pipeline. The State Department has already said that they would be forced to deny the permit if they had to use such a narrow timeframe, and the White House has agreed with that assessment.
There’s still the larger issue of a one-year agreement. The conference committee may not meet until the House and Senate return to Washington in late January, giving them just a few weeks to come to an agreement. Typically conference committees with this kind of high profile end up getting decided in back rooms by the party leadership anyway. So the conference committee thing is largely a dodge so Republicans can say they got something in this exchange. They really didn’t. They politically gave in to the Democratic demand.
From a policy standpoint, this means that current policy will mostly stay the same for the next two months, pending an agreement to the end of 2012. There are still headwinds for the economy, but things won’t get actively worse as a result of these measures expiring, at least not yet. And these were major pieces of the American Jobs Act, so we can say that at least a bit of that passed.




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Gee, it only took 3 years to figure out how to make these punks cry. Too bad, they could have been crying long ago, and the Dem base might have actually showed up in 2010.
This is a clear win for….um…um….Now we can get back to the real business of governing by….um…um Another example of how we can work together in a bipartisan way to…um..um
Hellofajob keeping up with thus lunacy Mr. Dayen, thanks.
Well, hmmm. Not sure how to feel about this.
On the one hand, hell yes for the UI recipients.
On the other hand, we’ve now canonized the temporary tax cuts. As a filthy librul soshulist, I’m all for paying taxes to fund the government. I personally would rather see that measure expire.
IMO, this is a clear win for the SENATE. And, iot should have been. Although their “Pass this or else. We’re going on holiday” would’ve pissed me off too. But, hey, they ARE the senate. Frfankly, I’m happy to see ALL the pissy legislaturds in the house get egg on their face. I just hate that Reid and McConnell get credit for kicking those assholes back in line. BUt, and God I hate to admit this, I suppose they deserve it.
Thanks DD for all you do.
Yeah, gotta Starve the Beast since Social Security’s income stream hurts the economy. The clear win is for conservative economics that has now established that Social Security’s operating mechanism harms the economy and if that wasn’t enough, the restoration of Social Security’s operating mechanism would be a tax increase (not just an expiration of a TEMPORARY tax cut).
I’m betwixt and between too. I will admit that I will probably spend the $1,000 on a new fence. So, if you multiply that X7, as I was taught in HS economics that’s almost $5,000 in total GDP stimulus. right?
I might buy the Lindsay Lohan Playboy issue too.
Sometimes the masses will get a collateral benefit from actions of the 1% and their Government. This is one of those cases. Any benefit (like UI) that goes to real people is purely unintended absolutely necessary to achieve some other grander goal of the PTB.
The Masters of Mindfuckery won. The Masters of Mindfuckery lost. Who gives a damn, really? All I want to know is, how the fuck do I get out of this damn rabbit hole? And, when can we start executing mindfuckers?
I’m ALWAYS hepp wehn BOehner goes home crying because the big boys (Senate)beat him up. I told you guys earlier, I’m a vindictive SOB.
I no longer understand, if I ever did, how the basic minimum economic security of people in general could be an item for “negotation”, “compromise”, or political games. It is however clear to me that the people making these decisions about our unemployment insurance system (and, previously, our welfare system) do not hold as a priority the well-being of people who are not independently wealthy, and I no longer hold in any respect American political officeholders, any of them. They are worthless parasites one and all.
With each passing year it becomes clearer and clearer to me that the average working person in this country irregardless of religious view, gender, ethnic identity, any of it, should regard the political parties and the political class as a menacing parasite, along with the plutocracy. It is clear that the power in America does not cherish the working population, and regards us as a body to worked for output and best kept in debt due to over consumption.
The question is not the question of who to vote for; the question at hand is how to stop the malevolent people in and around Washington DC and elsewhere in the country from squeezing us economically, playing games with our well-beings and lives, and using us like fools.
When I run for president, I’m picking you for my VEEP.
Great. First time homebuyers will have to pony up extra money so Joe Sixpack can stick a flatscreen TV in his garage or stock up on beer and cigarettes. My $2k is going straight into my savings account. Gotta starve the beast. If all the people who complain about the Wall Street scumbags and corporate fat asses would do the same the latter two would soon be crying.
I’m in. May I suggest “The Guillotine Party”?
Obama and the Dems got the GOP to agree to a tax cut, which is the GOP’s signature issue (and which may increase the jeopardy to social security). But not before the Dems dropped their demand for a millionaire surcharge. And not before the president was put on a 60-day clock for the Tar Sands Pipeline he intend to punt until after the election. And not until the Senate GOP the Wall St Journal and a raft of GOP Cons told Agent Orange to pack it in. A resounding victory for … someone. When Obama fights for something the GOP hates let me know. Until then, it’s business as usual in the DC Kabuki Theater.
Seriously, the politicians playing games with the economic bottom line for so many people in this country, today, yesterday, and 15 years ago, border on sadistic.
I would totally buy it if I could find it in this hick town.
I was angling for that spot.
Curses! Foiled again!
It’s a resounding win for Team Demopublican, the party of the unitary executive, austerity, cutting Social Security and Medicare, deciding what young women should do about their pregnancies, and so on, and so on….
On the other hand, the Kossacks are having orgasms, so there’s that.
Having just studied up on this I would say most are Narcissistic or Paranoid Narsissistic. The two main identifying traits being inverse conscience and perverted logic. Sadism is definately involved somehow since they derive pleasure from others misfortunes even if they didn’t cause them.
No worries, Kris, we’ll put you in charge of Homeland Security. That’s where the real, hands-on fun will be. ;-)
As long as a get a new chair. Napolitano’s has all that evil and gross on it.
Well hooray for UI. I am totally in favor of that, but as for all the rest: a resounding Bronx cheer: pfffffffft! to be polite.
Today’s Act in the ongoing Kabuki Show is entitled:
Wherein the shit-pricks RepubRATS/DEMOcans *pretend* that they’ve done something for the small guy, equally pretending that they somehow *caved* to the will of some guy who pretends to be POTUS (but who is just another hired hand for the 1%), and all in the name of unending tax cuts mainly for the super wealthy, but hey: throw in those FICA cuts so that later we can claim that Soc Sec is *ruined* and then the 1% can REALLY stick it to the 99%. Suck on it bitches! Sucks to be the 99%, don’t it??
I was over at Plum Line. More orgasms. Ludicrous. Pathetic, actually.
They’re using their left hands today?
“Well hooray for UI”
Yeah, there is that. And Obama didn’t even renew the Bush tax cuts for the rich again (as far as we know, anyhow).
Can’t. Go. There. :-(
Just another section of the great propoganda wurlitzer… the rightwing talking points are just about *everywhere* these days, including here sometimes… just saying… buying into the notion that there’s, you know, two discreet main pol parties with different goals/ideals/paymasters is simply ludicrious and rightwing propoganda. IMHO, of course.
I actually find many of the Kossacks to be quite sensible, despite the site mission. Plum Line is pretty bad now and Talking Points Memo is full of idiots. Obama has ruined a lot of good people. Or a lot of good people have ruined themselves defending Obama. Either way, it truly sucks.
Hey, don’t rush him. All in good time.
Oh never you fear: Obama will extend the Obama tax cuts for as long as he’s in office. Count on it.
P.S.
OTOH: I was banned from DKos so YMMV.
Or whoever’s running those blogs may have been bought off?? Dunno (really), but anymore… one has to wonder. Lotsa money flying around to have people push out spurious rightwing rubbish.
That gets really messy. I much prefer a good ol’ fashioned hangin’.
Badge of honor, IMO.
Oh, you Texans. Always so sure we won’t run out of trees.
I got a popcorn concession for that one next year. Need to get the book going too. What’s your bet? Nah, too easy. Gotta say what he gets in return.
I’m good with DHS. First thing, fiore tha SOB at the TSA.
The Tar Sands Pipeline is the thing now. Will Obama approve? Can he find another way to delay? I can’t believe he will actually kill it. And then the 2 months will be up on the payroll tax and we can start all over again. Lucky for us, there aren’t any pressing problems in the country or the world for us to deal with. Man, I am f-ing cynical.
Not the middle class cuts . . . not me.
But I’d heartily applaud raising corporate and wealthy taxes.
We’d have NO problem with social services and infrastructure issues if that were the case.
Course, it’s all a pipe dream ain’t it . . . thinking we can raise taxes on corps n the rich fucks . . . ;-)
Is the Pope a pederast?
The GOP won’t make Obama move out of the White House until his term is done. Oh, and he can keep a pen when he leaves.
N Head Executioner, too, no doubt?
*G*
I was banned from that silly web site during election 2000 when I argued that Nader had a basic right to run for President, irregardless of impact on the Democrats. I was 100% polite, civil, and articulate. I was banned for “inappropriate posts”. I remember that web site prior to 2000, before it became known, it was good circa 1998-1999 – but as soon as Moulitsas became a party apparatchik and started writing posts bragging about his expensive bicycle components he was suddenly buying, the site became a fund-raising and PR operation for the Democratic Party and went to shit overnight.
At this point, I haven’t looked at that site in 10 years, and the sense I get from others who have is that it has just gotten worse and worse and worse.
In 60 days? Before the election? The environmentalists and much of the Left will go nuts. That’s why Obama tried to punt in the first place. He desperately wants to postpone this until after the election. Can he find a way to delay? Sure. Will he? I don’t know.
Hardened steel, tempered in the fire.
Sharp party, that party . . . ;-)
Yes, the notion that one person determines what is acceptable opinion is totalitarian. IMO.
It’s no joke, I remember shortly before being banned Moulitsas announced that several of his buddies writing on the sight were serving as “consultants” to Democrats. That’s all that site has become, today, is a paid consultancy, Moulitsas, Inc., who offers his readers (and small donors!) to paying clients who incidentally are associated with Democrat campaigns. He’s a money guy now. That’s all. His web site is utterly worthless as any sort of “grassroots” operation.
Yet.
Exactly. Of course the site is Moulitsas’ personal property – he has the write to control all the content on it as he sees fit – but any suggestion that the site is any sort of “grassroots forum” or anything at all other than a money-making operation run by Markos Moulitsas is a joke.
i am proud of the dems. for once they did not cave. they have a winning formula with this. the tea bagging members of the gop caucus are responsible for giving the dems this win. boehner cannot control them. if this keeps up, as the wst stated, they will give congress back to the dems and obama will will re-election
I see a lot of good people at DKos and these are people we will need to ally with in order to fight the Cons. However, I agree with you that the site itself is an online organ for the Democratic Party.
DAVID,
I don’t know how you do it, but you manage to keep up with all of it!
I just got my OS Bulletin, you will no doubt enjoy seeing this:
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?cycle=2012&id=N00000286
You’re an optimistic fellow.
The GOP merely sees the Gov’t as a funding arm for the MIC and the Corps. that fund it.
They’re in election mode now.
In general I concur with the tone of comments suggesting this is a temp win, small win and the real damage to SS (and approval for Keystone) is yet to come . . . . the media circus over DEMS WIN DEMS WIN is laughable . . . but ya have to stop crying to do so.
LeSigh.
Great comments, thanks.
Those “good people” over there would you report you to the Gestapo for writing some of the comments here you see about the Democrats. I see no need to “ally” with these people in particular given the contempt they regard us with -
Well… ok, timing as to when Obama WILL APPROVE is in question, but I still believe he will approve it… one way or the other. Despite the fact that there’s endless problems, not the least of which is that it’s not really the job-creator that it’s touted to be.
Any day one can, in effect, “pants” Boehner and the house repubtilians, is a good day. Let’s have some Buds.
Moulitsas is CIA. Once I learned that, I quit the site. Not worth bothering, albeit I concur that some who posted there appeared to have some info, etc.
Let’s not forget the old adage…”Better to have them inside pissing out, than outside pissing in.”
Meh
I daresay anyone sees this 2 month extension as some huge win or a deciding factor in 2012 election.
THAT C.I.A.????????
Just good fodder for the blogs and embarassing for Boehner.
Also see #60
The ultra rich got a two-year extension of the Bush tax cuts, while the rest of us who still have jobs got a two-month extension of a shitty little tax holiday.
Why is Obama acting like he won something?
I’d rather have seen the Bush tax cuts expire. It was a failed experiment, and it’s time to end it.
Oh, I agree that Obama WANTS to approve TSP. And I also agree that he will do so. He’s just trying his best to wait and the GOP has now put him in a box. What will Obama do in 60 days? You think it will be an outright approval of the TSP?
There are a lot of people at DKos is all I’m saying. Some are hopeless partisans or Obots, maybe most. But certainly not all. We need allies.
My words to you, coming as someone who was portrayed as bitter, uneducated, and irrational for refusing to bend on my principles in 2008, is to learn to forgive and never forget. “Allying” need not mean giving up your right to independantly determine a course of action, it just means working together when you have common interests.
yes. seriously.
You have to admire the sense of proportion visible in the legislation, don’t you?
In 60 days? Ok: that I don’t know, and you are probably correct that he’ll tap dance around and we’ll be back to the future before we know it. I was speaking more generally about the ultimate outcome.
Because Obama DID win something… for the 1%. Screw the 99%.
I now call it the Obama tax cut for the mega-wealthy cuz that’s who owns it now. Just saying…
Well said. Our similarities usually outweigh our differences.
The base of the Democratic Party should be calling on all candidates running for office in 2012 to let the Bush tax cuts expire at the end of the year.
Issue #1 of the 2012 election should be letting the Bush tax cuts expire.
And FDL should lead the charge by asking every candidate running for office to promise voters in writing that they will let the Bush tax cuts expire at the end of 2012.
Sorry, back in 2000 when they gave me the boot for doing nothing other than civilly standing my ground on an obvious matter, when I got banned for “inappropriate posts” by a group of alleged “people” who abused me in writing in horribly insulting and obnoxious ways, I decided that “Daily Kos” is an asshole web site, run by duplicitous assholes, and populated by manipulated assholes, and I was done with it then and there.
The entire arrogant, asshole culture in the Democratic Party surrounding the handling of leftists and liberals who don’t just nod, smile, and support the party mindlessly every 2 years, but who instead ask questions and demand results, started making me want to puke on the sidewalk many years ago, and these days I can report with great contentment that I no longer need to respect or interact with that side of the political universe. It’s like being force-fed three-week old McDonald’s cheeseburgers, the “thought” going on over there, and I am done wading in sewers.
Life is just too short -
Yep, Obama owns it.
yes
I don’t waste my time with any site that still thinks its a two team sport.
Yeah, well that’s my question. Will he find a way to wriggle out of deciding before the election? I don’t think the GOP will let him get away with it and I still see no signs that Obama has the stomach (or balls, as Matt Damon would say) to take on the GOP or Big Oil or the Chamber of Commerce before the election. (He could care less about the unions; that’s just a fig leaf.) I think Obama has a real political dilemma. Good for him.
I’d be fine with Democrats calling it the failed Bush tax cut experiment so long as they all promise to end it in exchange for our votes in 2012.
Proud to have you aboard. Care to head the SEC?
Obviously that won’t happen. The Democrats never needed to allow the Bush tax cuts to pass in the first place. They passed owning to Democrat votes and a weak, craven party leadership in the Congress. See: “Nancy Pelosi”.
The extension of the tax cuts certainly didn’t need to happen, either. There is no excuse. They are now the Obama tax cuts for the rich.
The owner of the site along with his “consultant” buddies make money by perpetuating the two-party game in front of their adherents. Why would they digress from that message? It keeps them fat and happy.
Yes, and I’m pretty tired of seeing those tax cuts attributed to Bush. While it’s eminently TRUE that they were initiated by BushCo, ObamaCo wholly owns them now. Tax cuts for the mega-wealthy have next to nothing to do with Bush anymore. Let’s get real. Obama & the putative “Democrats” blissfully enabled their wealthy benefactors to continue ripping off the 99%, when they had the *complete ability* to let the original Bush tax cuts EXPIRE… as Bush said, himself, they should (not that Bush meant it at the time, but he did say it).
These are now Obama’s tax cuts for his wealthy 1% pals, friends and benefactors. Let’s get real.
I voluntarily stopped commenting shortly after the Obama Edwards wars after kos arbitrarily let Obama detractors off the hook for poor behavior but took away the TU status of Edwards supporters. I pretty much stopped visiting after they started posting stupid crap like the Clinton darkened picture of Obama crap and every other rumor possible without requiring any actual evidence. The site became like a version of the newspaper that used to regale people with tales of “batboy” without the jacked up obviously photoshopped pics.
There comes a point where whining about the democrats and still insisting that you “must” vote for them strikes me as counterproductive. And as long as the site insists that “must” be the strategy I don’t see it as an extremely useful tool in terms of going forward.
That being said, I would not say the same of all the people who freqeuent the site. The great thing about people is given time, facts, and a compelling argument they can change and often do.
Sure, but no offense intended: that’s a pipe dream that will never happen. For me the *reality* is that these are the Obama tax cuts, and I predict they will be extended. Hope I’m dead wrong about that, but I doubt it.
Pass the popcorn! heh… agree
I owe you a drink! Whaddaya having???
I cannot agree more. Stop calling them “Bush tax cuts.” They are all Obama’s now.
What seems surreal is how we seamlessly shift to the need for tax cuts from apocalyptic fear of the crushing the deficit when it suits the Conservatives’ purposes (and I include Obama as a Conservative). The nation is living through the looking glass. Things mean whatever we are told they mean. And the vast majority of Americans accept this! What has happened to this country?!
True. I may have misspoken when trying to cut a thin slice. They clearly are the Obama Tax Cuts now. Just like it is Obama’s Afghan War now.
FDL can make letting the Bush tax cuts expire a central issue in the election cycle by getting Democrats to sign a pledge. Even if they’re extended, it should be a major issue and Democrats should be called out on it (i.e. when many of them refuse to take the pledge).
Calling them the Obama tax cuts accomplishes nothing.
Or we could keep it simple: Tax Cuts for the Rich. Let them expire.
Cocktail Hag had a nice blog about that recently. He discusses it in terms of the insanity, patheticness and absurdity of the Kabuki Show labeled “Republican Primary,” but he pretty much sums up how we got here.
Turn off your tv is step number 1 to get citizens off the brainwashing propoganda wurlitzer.
Quite agree. And Obama’s Libyan War (when it happened), and Obama’s ginned up “conflict” with Syria. And Obama’s Yemen War. And Obama’s rush to WAR, Inc with Iran, etc, blah blah blah…
It’s ALL about Obama now. Talking about Bush, as if he’s still responsible (as horrid as BushCo was) NOW is useless and wrong-headed, imo. It is not factual.
Ok. Don’t call them Obama tax cuts, if that makes it seem better somehow. Whatever.
Just say: no more Tax Cuts for the wealthy.
I won’t hold my breath waiting for it to happen, sadly. But I will support any effort to make it so.
Guys and girls…..It’s a good day. Boehner and the house republicans have egg on their face. Boehner is crying, afraid he will lose the speaker’s job. The republican INdiana SOS has been thrown out of office. And I got a whole case of Dos Equis as a Xmas present from a client.
But watch NCIS, NCIS-LA and the Mentalist. Good TV.
Well, dwelling on Bush and the GOP misses the crucial point the Obama Presidency has driven home: both parties are hopelessly corrupt. So, to that extent, focusing on the Republicans while excluding the Democrats is counterfactual and probably counterproductive except in targeted spots.
I’m off. Happy holidays to all. Keep the faith.
Cheers! Don’t drink it all at once, ncg! heh
Boehner crying is fine, too, albeit not sure how much egg is on his face, but whatever…
Agree.
Happy Holidays. Best to you and your family.
And best to all here at FDL.
I don;t think conterfactual is a word, BUt Happy End of the Fourth Fiscal Quarter to you too.
Eh? Probably but usually too busy even for that. I catch a few things now and then, but not much.
Toodle pip everyone. Gotta go. Been good chatting. Keep on trucking…
My momma always taught me to share.
I’d hardly say we’re through any looking glass – the country is being operated by a by-the-numbers banana republic plutocracy that employs the same games of social division, appeals to mental weakness, etc that any other banana republic uses.
How long are we going to allow the unemployed to sit on the couch in front of the tv? The sonner we end these silly unemployment benefits the sooner this lazy SOBs will get back to work.
Way to support America with that cheap Mexican swill. Hypocrite!
Americans are some of the most productive people(we’ve had the productivity numbers to prove it). We’ll talk about cutting unemployment wehen the number of jobs that can sustain a household improve. We ain’t there yet. UE numbers that consider part time employment looking for full time are still at about 16%.
My daughter has been unemployed for almost 2 years and she’s a single mother. She doesn’t get unemployment money either. She hates not working and there’s absolutely nothing she can do about it. THERE ARE NO JOBS!
I don’t know your daughter’s situation so I won’t speculate though I have my thoughts. There are plenty of jobs out there. Go to any job site, monster, indeed etc etc there are plenty of jobs available. It may not be identical to what she is doing but the jobs are there for those willing and motivated to work.
Not even sure it’s egg.
“On the politics, this is a major victory for Democrats and the White House.” What TRIPE! FDL has yet to argue what it is about this Bill that’s good for Americans about borrowing evermore from SS account. Has FDL forgotten “Chauncey” Bush put this in place? Has FDL forgotten why? What the heck is going on at FDL, where is the tremendous argument you forwarded for the first 2+ years of the Obama Administration?
So help me here. Are the tax cuts for the rich also in place?
Yeah, there are good people there at Kos. I haven’t gotten kicked off or quit yet, for example. :-P
And the dismay with the Democrats is starting to show, as is the problem that (1) The site needs money from the base to survive, but (2) The base is deserting the party. So it abandoned the old 50-state, local strategy (which FDL is picking up just fine, good for you all) and went national.
The monumentally stupid tax cuts were initiated by Bush and the Republicans. They’ve been known as the Bush tax cuts for a long time. Calling them Obama tax cuts for the rich won’t help to get Democrats on board to take a pledge to let them expire.
The primary goal should be to make letting the tax cuts expire a major issue in 2012. It should be to create an alternative to the Norquist pledge that so many Republicans have taken. The point is to raise awareness of how much damage the failed experiment has caused and is causing.
Unfortunately, there’s little more than quibbling over nonsense around here each time I’ve brought this up. So FDL won’t take this action, even though it’s exactly the kind of thing that FDL does well.
There would be Democrats who would make such a pledge in writing. Those who don’t can be called out for their hypocrisy. It would get coverage in the msm.
Yeah, it took Obama 3 years to realise that caving to the GOP doesn’t make him look reasonable. It makes him look spineless.
Still, my acerbic side said this newfound bravery on the part of the Dems is just here for the election in 2012. In 2013, it will be “bipartisanship” at all costs. Hope I’m wrong.
Well said sixgill.. I actually think the occupy movement is our only hope. That said these people running and destroying our country should blow the— up.
I also pointed out to Kos that the “darken skin” scandal was a bunch of lies – pointed to factcheck -
“Factcheck.org assess the claim made by some liberal bloggers that the Clinton camp appeared to have darkened Obama’s skin in a TV ad.
They find the claim to be without merit, saying “without further evidence to the contrary, we see no reason to conclude that this is anything more than a standard attempt to make an attack ad appear sinister, rather than a special effort to exploit racial bias as some Obama supporters are saying.”
Factcheck.org acknowledges that the “Obama frames from the ad do appear darker than other video of Obama from the same event” but say a digital recording of the ad as it actually appeared on TV shows Obama as lighter than the Youtube clips the bloggers were using.
“Furthermore, our analysis of the Obama frames, using Photoshop, shows a fairly uniform darkening of the entire image including the backdrop. It is not just Obama’s skin color that’s affected…nearly all the images in the ad are dark, including those of Hillary Clinton. And dark images are a common technique used in attack ads.”
And of course I got banned from KOS after pointed to Factcheck .
Indeed some at FDL to this day believe there was a face darkening rather than a dark filter on the entire image and background in every frame so to do the standard “dark mood” attack ad in the very standard way it is done. But calling Hillary a racist gets some folks off – so be it. Now they do not have her as a person that could win the election and replace Obama with a real, albeit not far left, Democrat. But Kos so poisoned the water that these folks are happy that no real Democrat challenge to Obama is possible that would have a chance to actually win in 2012.
The cave in the next 60 days will be by Obama as he approves more hurt for the middle-class in order to get his payroll tax 10 month cut.
I expect the “UI insurance benefit” paid for by workers UI payroll deductions to be redefined as an entitlement that has welfare conditions – say drug testing pee required weekly. I also expect fewer weeks than 99.
the 99% will get on avg an extra $40.00?
those without jobs who un-employment has expired will get nothing!
“As of the end of 2009, less than 12 million Americans worked in manufacturing. The last time less than 12 million Americans were employed in manufacturing was in 1941.”
Clinton and Obama both played a major role in destroying the USA middle class. “NAFTA = Clinton Korea/China free trade deal = OBAMA
the 1% got 16 trillion dollars from the FED
Obama wants to destroy Social Security! cutting FICA hurts Social Security
Yet again the 1% wins
Obama will never raise taxes on the 1%
What did Obama and the Dems get for keeping the Bush Tax Cuts?
What?
Nothing!!!
Some already will be losing the 99 week benefit. I think the article I read said that 3 or 4 states unemployment has changed to a small enough number to no longer qualify for the full 99 week benefit.
The worker making $10,000 or less annually makes $200 or less annually on the payroll tax cut. It works out to about $4 a weekly paycheck. Woohoo!
This “cut” actually works out as a boon for the rich too. Someone like Warren Buffet who maxes out on his FICA contribution gets 10 times(the $40 you spoke of) what the poor schmuck working for minimum wage makes.
The only good part of today’s victory is the unemployed. I suspect without this deal there would begin to be even more homeless people as a result of no extension to unemployment.
And back again… We absolutely HAD to pass the tax cut extension (and add a trillion to the deficit) but then we HAD to pivot to deficit reduction. Sorry, poor people, gotta cut your heating oil assistance!
Republicans have been crying since November 2008. McConnell expressed his sorrow and anger at their defeat in early 2009 by promising to do everything he could to defeat Obama.
Yet what happened? Obama got lots done in the face of total obstructionism from Republicans and what did progressives do? They blamed Obama for driving the Republicans to near futile obstructionism, and virtually cheered as Obama and Pelosi and Ried were attacked relentlessly by the right with hundreds of millions in ads and by the media.
Your comments place you in the ranks of Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld claiming victory in Iraq. Followed by “we’ve got them on the run” and the “terrorists are defeated except for a few deadenders”.
The Republicans have merely melted away from a skirmish they are losing just like insurgents have been doing in Afghanistan and Iraq for a decade and al qaeda has for a quarter century. If you were a terrorist, you would have quit on the first retreat because you were led to your death. And keeping in mind we would call Thomas Jefferson a terrorist under current US law if he were alive and leading today, you would have abandoned the American Revolution every time there was a defeat, retreat, set back, claiming, if only the rebels had fought to the death every time, they would have had greater support from the people.
But the big difference between wars and insurrections is it is possible to defeat the enemy if the battle is fought long and hard enough, but in democracies, politics is merely a never ending series of skirmishes with no victory ever possible. No matter what, there is another election, another set of grievances, and yet more fights for hearts and minds and power. And Republicans are very good at maintaining their fight in good times and bad. Democrats too often are only fair weather mock battle warriors. Like you….
Where the FUCK were the Dem generals while those of us in the hinterlands were fighting off the Teabag Tory onslaught? They set up weak ass “health care rallies” here in AZ in 2009 where they told single payer advocates to put their signs down because “we don’t want people to think we’re for a ‘government takeover of health care!” Which we got accused of ANYWAY, complete with “death panels” Then in 2010 we were called retards and whiners and druggies because we weren’t clapping hard enough for a 3000 page ‘signature’ health care bill with no public option and an unpopular as fuck mandate. Oh yeah, and sky high unemployment.
Also, here in AZ we Dems trying desperately to hold onto Congressional seats and save our state exec and lege seats from teabagger wackaloons in the midst of the SB1070 shitstorm are at fault because we weren’t big enough cheerleaders for Pres. Obama. Perhaps you should take that up with the AZ Dem state party chair at the time, who wrote an Op-Ed to the Arizona Republic begging voters not to take their anger at Obama out on down ticket Democratic candidates just prior to the election. He must be a fair weather mock battle warrior too.
And mulps, maybe you could explain this whole “maintaining the fight in good and bad times” thing to the Keep The Powder DryTM crowd. Because I sure as shit didn’t see that fight when Sec. Sebelius overruled science to keep Plan B off the shelves for young girls and Pres. Obama agreed with her. What the ever loving fuck did that do besides give legitimacy to anti-choice authoritarians? When the Dems cede yet more ground to the anti-contraception Bishops on the upcoming birth control covered by insurance fight I’m sure you’ll be right there to lecture us progressives on how we need to think of the long war. Funny, but the Republicans whose battle skills you have so much respect for don’t seem to give a damn inch on this issue. They’re full speed ahead on the Personhood At Conception Crusade.