I think it’s fair to say that Ron Paul doesn’t like to take questions about the newsletters that bore his name in the 1990s. He walked out of an interview with Gloria Borger when she peppered him with questions about it.
Paul’s argument is that this came up in the 2008 campaign, and therefore it falls under old news. Also, he answered the questions about the newsletters at the time, saying he didn’t write them or read them, and that he disavows them. However, video has been unearthed showing Paul standing by the old newsletters back in 1995.
Ta-Nehisi Coates makes the correct argument here. The newsletters come from a time when paleoconservatives sought out and used a racist element to bolster their ranks. Paul doesn’t put forward these beliefs today, using isolationist foreign policy beliefs and libertarian Fed-bashing to solidify his ranks. But at the time, he clearly used the racist element as a means to consolidate power. This excerpt from a Dave Weigel piece makes the point in the career of George Wallace:
In 1952, [George Wallace] became the Circuit Judge of the Third Judicial Circuit in Alabama. Here he became known as “the fighting little judge,” a nod to his past boxing association. He gained a reputation for fairness regardless of the race of the plaintiff, and J. L. Chestnut, a black lawyer, recalled, “Judge George Wallace was the most liberal judge that I had ever practiced law in front of. He was the first judge in Alabama to call me ‘Mister’ in a courtroom.”
On the other hand, “Wallace was the first Southern judge to issue an injunction against removal of segregation signs in railroad terminals.” Wallace blocked federal efforts to review Barbour County voting lists, for which he was cited for criminal contempt of court in 1959. Wallace also granted probation to some blacks, which may have cost him the 1958 gubernatorial election.
He was defeated by John Patterson in Alabama’s Democratic gubernatorial primary election in 1958, which at the time was the decisive election, the general election still almost always being a mere formality. This was a political crossroads for Wallace. Patterson ran with the support of the Ku Klux Klan, an organization Wallace had spoken against, while Wallace was endorsed by the NAACP.
After the election, aide Seymore Trammell recalled Wallace saying, “Seymore, you know why I lost that governor’s race?… I was outniggered by John Patterson. And I’ll tell you here and now, I will never be outniggered again.”
Paul wanted to stay in the public eye in his period in between running on the Libertarian line for President and becoming a Congressman. He allowed these newsletters to go out in an appeal to racists and bigots. I remember seeing one of these newsletters in college – they were full of antigay imagery as well.
What’s a bit surprising to me is that the newsletters had to come up again as a way to discredit Paul with Republicans. Certainly his stated beliefs today clash with much of the Republican base. You saw Newt Gingrich trot out those arguments in a radio interview today. “(Paul) is a guy who basically says, if the United States were only nice, it wouldn’t have had 9/11. He doesn’t want to blame the bad guys.… He dismisses the danger of an Iranian nuclear weapon and seems to be indifferent to the idea that Israel could be wiped out. And as I said, I think the key to his volunteer base is people who want to legalize drugs.” Now that’s what I expected all along: Paul hates America, Paul loves pot-smoking hippies. To a Republican audience, that would probably be enough. But the newsletters apparently are icing on the cake, and catnip for media types.
One other unrelated thing here. I know a lot of liberals who get angered by progressive support for Paul. Just because he’s anti-war and pro-legalization, the story goes, doesn’t mean that his extreme libertarian economic policies wouldn’t hurt the country. I think the proper answer to that is to find champions on the left who speak with as much clarity about the need for justice and peace and equality. Alan Grayson springs to mind. The dearth of public conversation around these issues drives support to Paul, not anything else. As long as that something gets fought with nothing, nobody should be surprised about the attraction.




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Huh??
Racist and anti-gay attitudes would be icing on the cake AGAINST Paul???? When did racist and anti-gay attitudes become a liability to a Republican?
Ron paul is like a politician out of the 19th century. It’s like someone took a time machine and teleported him into the future.
I’ll vote for him anyway because I’m one of those single issue anti-war voters. But seriously, the gold standard? We’ll need to exhume the corpse of William Jennings Bryant to run against him.
My own observations:
1) Nice to see establishment movement Republicans suddenly rediscover things that lefties had documented years ago.
2) If the Republican establishment — which for decades has lived by the race-hatred-stoking Southern Strategy — really objected to the newsletters and to Ron Paul’s bigotry, then why didn’t they make an issue of it during his son and ideological clone Rand Paul’s Senate run?
Mayhaps it the headline should read..
Ron Paul’s newsletter issue being redredged due to his success.
Please provide actual newsletter that you saw full of “anti gay” imagery.
“He allowed these newsletters to go out in an appeal to racists and bigots.”
That is quite an assertion with no proof.
This issue amuses me.
I’m a honky who’s neighbor and first best freind, in DC area as a wee lad was an boy of african descent. When I first learned of racisim my thought we’re tied to those of my buddy, and how dispecable it is for anyone to judged based on race. All my life I have been very sensitive to this issue, and NEVER have I heard Ron Paul utter a word that hinted at a racist mindset.
This is good though it means TPTB are scared again and since they can’t distract or hide his ideas any longer they are attacking with the banal well trodden newsletter kerfuffle.
Here are the ideas they cannot stop, which Ron is a proponent of.
1)US military aggression and hyperextension can and should end.
2)Currency should be a servant of the people not Make them Serfs
3)Centralized government power should not trump local decision makers since locals actually LIVE with the consequences of their decision.
There are many more…
Is Ron perfect no, did he make a mistake by neglecting an active part in his newsletter yes, did he admit that yes.
Ron’s no racist and doesn’t matter how many Koshacks say otherwise.
He’s actually also been a proponent of competing currencies.
Ron Paul is absolutely, 100% dead on right about some issues. The problem for me is he’s also 100%, dead on WRONG about many, many, many more.
The funny thing though is he is the ONLY one in either party that is 100% dead on right about ANY issues.
Such a sad state of affairs.
OFG wrote: When did racist and anti-gay attitudes become a liability to a Republican?
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I looked it up….Raciism and anti-gay, they’re in the platform. Last page, small print.
I agree it is sad. I wish i had a lefty anti-war candidate to vote for that was even remotely viable. But I don’t, so Ron Paul it is.
I agree. He even LOOK kinda 19th century. THis gusy says what he means and means what he says. Lunacy today, but damn refreshing.
But, he still looks like Pat Paulsem from the Smothers Brothers show. I can’t get past that.
So it’s a matter of whether you want a watch which is dead right twice a day or one which is five minutes fast and is never right at all, hunh, OldFatGuy?
Always love your obeservsations. I checked. That folder fell behind the Dr. Pepper machine. Shit happens.
I just found the most Conservative/Libertarian – and outright CRAZY – DAILY NEWSPAPER in the country. It’s called GARDEN STATE JOURNAL (www.GardenStateJournal.com) and it’s right outside NYC. See its lead article todays, “THIRD PARTY CANDIDATES & THE ANTICHRIST” and “ABORTION RAGES” – and then go to the page of Mario Cash, the Editorial Page Editor, and you’ll see a few dozen articles that will sicken and nauseate you. This guy is particularly out of his mind. He may even beat out Coulter and Limbaugh as the biggest right wing lunatic. Garden State Journal could be the most right wing paper in the country. Their columnists include O’Reilly, Coulter, Malkin, Barone, Buchanan, Malzberg, Kudlow, Williams, Stossel, Napolitano, Prager, Elder, Lambrow, and the whole gang.
I don’t think Obama is 5 minutes too fast, i think he’s 6 hours too slow.
Paul’s 15 minutes of fame just speaks to the frustrations and ideological confusion of so many voters. If the GOP pack wasn’t full of numbskulls and hucksters, Paul would be in the low single digits. I see him as a modern day Confederate. No doubt his ideas of personal property rights would have extended to slavery back in 1850. Go away Ron, enjoy your late years, and let your idiot son carry on the family name.
You’re right. THis guy either hits the bullseye or misses the friggin’ target by ten yards. I think he’s a hoot. Best thing to come out Texas since Willy Nelson.
Paul is anti-choice. Think about that.
http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/storage/listen.html Rocky anderson is on the second half of Gary Null show today.
lefty anti-war candidate to vote for that was even remotely viable.
even if you miss the show, I understand you can access it and hear it later. 11-12 central time is the program, which means now.
Hell, sometimes he don;t show up for the party at all!
I miss Ross Perot. :)
Entertaining….try finishing your thoughts you may come to other conclusions.
And Obama drops bombs on children in pakistan, has already assassinated at least two american citizens in yemen, prosecutes government whistleblowers and claims the right to detain people he deems “terrorists” without trial, and is currently conducting a pointless, endless, bloody, trillion dollar 11 year war in afghanistan.
What exactly is ron paul going to do about abortion, anyway? according to him It’s a state issue and he’s running for president, not for state government.
If you’re worried about supreme court picks, i’d rather have them picked by someone who supports the bill of rights and doesn’t support unlimited executive power because that’s more important to me than the abortion issue.
Hi David,
seems you have joined the MSM hit piece on RP.
Paul’s argument is that this came up in the 2008 campaign, and therefore it falls under old news. Also, he answered the questions about the newsletters at the time, saying he didn’t write them or read them, and that he disavows them. However, video has been unearthed showing Paul standing by the old newsletters back in 1995.
If you listen to the video he talks about the newsletter discussing his economic policy etc. Also there were many newsletters put out, by different people, so how can you say the one he is referring to is also the one that includes racist remarks? Seems a stretch and one I would expect from MSM but would hope for better here.
Strike me as odd that YOU and MSM have to go back twenty years to find something to discredit RP. Unlike the other candidates where you only have to go back a few hours :)
I think the least we can do here is give RP a fair hearing. So how about a piece on what RP stands for? because all I have seen so far is little clarity on what his message is and lots of suggestion and hysteria.
I think it is possible that many might vote for RP because they agree with some of what he says. Unlike the other politicians who will flip the moment they get elected, RP will not and at least try to do what he said. Of course that means he will try and do the things you don’t agree with, but from what I can see the other candidates and POTUS are already doing this and they don’t deliver any upside in the process.
Also if RP is a racist then why is he credited for pushing early on for MLK holiday?
Rocky Anderson will win maybe 1% of the vote in the general. These people need to run in the democratic primary.
The system is stacked in favor of the two parties, I don’t like it either but there’s no point in beating your head against the wall. If you can’t beat obama in a democratic primary, you can’t beat him in the general either.
Interesting take, and I think I agree with it.
He is also 100% dead on arrival.
Even so, it’s good to have one person around who is 100% right about something. And, I think you and I would agree on what he is 100% right about.
It would be terrible to have a 100% homoginized (sp) group in office–though some on both sides want it.
“He allowed these newsletters to go out in an appeal to racists and bigots.”
Well maybe. Paul says this is not true.
But the part about attempting an alliance with paleoconservatives seems true. So maybe Paul at one time was willing to pretend to be a racist.
Anyway – Paul is the ONLY anti imperialist candidate of the legacy parties. Of all the filthy disgusting things my government does the worst in my opinion is the daily murder of Muslims followed closely by the mass incarceration of pot smokers. I will therefore be voting for Paul in the Republican primary and in the unlikely event he is nominated I will vote for him again if his opponent in the general election is Obama. If the Democrats ever nominate an anti war candidate I might give them a second look.
If president Paul tries to bring back segregation and/or steam boats the congress will just have to say no.
ME TOO!!!!!! we really have a lot in common. Do you have a fetish for women in high heels and fishnet stockings?????
I like steam boats.
LOL. I never wore fishnets but I did like high heels.
Can’t wear them any more – might fall over. My fetish is for George Clooney.
Don’t forget Kinky Friedman (and the Texas Jew Boys). It was Kinky who said – after God created Republicans he gave up on everything else. Or something like that.
When we’re done on this issue can we take on the JBS thingy? It’s much more personal, much more recent, and much more consistent. And they plastered Sarah Palin for it, so we might as well hear about why it’s okay for Ron Paul to give keynotes for John Birch Society annual meetings.
Personally, when I was young, I got into a lot of trouble by being turned in to the police for things I didn’t do by the JBS because they didn’t like “my type”. I had friends in college whose parents ended up before the HUAC courtesy of them. I’m not ready to forgive and forget just everybody hunky-dory if it’s only Ron Paul giving them the thumbs up.
Guess “paleoconservatives” are now just “conservatives” or something? Unsure. However as far as using the past tense to say “used a racist element to bolster their ranks” is just flat-out wrong. The correct verb tense to use is the present tense.
I mean: whether we wish to bash Ron Paul about these newsletters or whatever, rightwing conservatives USE the Southern Strategy *constantly.*
What a load of crap for some purported “conservative” to now bash Paul about utilizing the strategy that’s been ongoing at least since the days of Nixon, if not before. Please. Load of hogwash and bullshit. No surprises, though. The PTB no likey Ron Paul bc, for better or worse, Paul’s less “controllable” by the 1%. Whether I like Paul’s policies or not is beside the point in this instance.
This is about the 1% getting a-skeeeered that they may not be able to control the narrative is Paul is actually elected during the primary. Way to go!
Why settle for the lesser of 2 evils?
Yeah, why settle for the lesser of 2 evils when you can pull a third evil out of a hat?
How desperate is the GOP to stop Ron Paul? They have to know that public attacks on Ron over racism smear the entire GOP with moderate voters because the GOP is seen as the racist political party already.
The fact the GOP is willing to attack Ron publicly on racism shows just how afraid they are he can win. Ron’s supporters are younger voters and more motivated a snowstorm in Iowa on Primary day could easily make less motivated voters stay home and who is less motivated than Mitt supporters and make it a Newt, Ron contest.
The GOP does not want Newt either. I think Ron is a racist but I will admit he can win Iowa. A win would make him a respectable candidate and boost his numbers in other states.
Ron’s people don’t want to admit it but many GOP voters won’t vote for Ron unless they think he has a chance to win winning does trump ideas for many voters.
But a win in Iowa would change that.
Who says every choice we make will be evil? Was FDR evil?
It will be interesting to see if Ron wins in Iowa how much his support goes up in other states we will finally get some idea how many voters put voting for someone they think can win is more important than voting for who they think has the best ideas.
Ron ironically has his best shot of winning now that its a 3 way race Corporate GOPers want Mitt, Fundies are less than happy with Newt but at least he is not Mormon and Ron brings in many Moderate and younger voters the GOP needs.
Voters who would normally not vote GOP ever. Obama’s failure to go Left has given Ron the numbers he needs to win a 3 way contest.
If Ron becomes the nominee Obama has only himself to blame.
“Thus, since Ron Paul votes his conscience, since he rejects certain aspects of the Establishment − such as the Federal Reserve’s abuse of the monetary system and its financing of the welfare-warfare empire we have now become − there is no way apparatchiks in the GOP will nominate Dr. Paul no matter what WE THE PEOPLE want.
And to this end, lackey pundits in the CFR-dominated, mainstream media continuously chant that Ron Paul has “no chance to get the Republican nomination.” They spew this so often, it’s obvious they don’t believe their own lies.”
http://www.thedailybell.com/3396/James-Jaeger-Why-Ron-Paul-Can-Win
You are so right. I don’t know whether Ron Paul let the newsletters go out twenty or thirty years ago or not, either, but this smacks of throwing shit against the wall and seeing what sticks, now that Paul’s candidacy is taking off.
I’ll caucus with him, instead of sitting my ass home and letting Mitt take the lead. I’d rather see Obama unscripted during debates with Ron Paul than have to hear about how Obama and Mitt tried to outwar one another. Those who don’t want to be bothered to get their pretty, little hands dirty in order to get a real debate going need an attitude adjustment. This is about the war and the prison industry and civil liberties. It is about strategy and not about personal “feelings.”
I hope to see Rocky Anderson’s Justice Party take off, and I will vote for Anderson unless it’s neck and neck between Obama and Paul. In the meantime, I’m not so delicate and not so nose-in-the-air proud that I will stay home rather than do what I can at this point to give voters a choice between Obama and Ron Paul.
Don’t worry things. Paul will not be nominated. They don’t really have to kill him you know. Threats against his family would probably suffice. But if I get a chance to vote to restore civil liberties and avoid martial law I will jump at it. I expect to end up voting in the general election for some neglected and impotent leftie who managed to make it onto my ballot. As usual.
I realize Ron Paul is fringe but Gloria Borger has some conflicts of interests that may reflect why she chose to go after Paul now. From Economic Policy Journal:
Well, well, it turns out hit job specialist Gloria Borger is married to Lance Morgan. Morgan is according to the web site of his employer, Powell Tate,”chief communications strategist at Powell Tate in Washington, D.C. He specializes in developing and executing communications strategies for public policy debates, crisis communications and media training.”
So who might be the clients of Powell Tate, where Borger’s husband is “chief communications strategist and crisis communications” adviser for?
Just about every part of the military industrial-complex that Ron Paul wants to shrink or shutdown. According to the Powell Tate web site, they are strategic communications for among others:
The U.S. Army
The Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services
The U.S Agency for International Development
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce
and, I’m not joking, The National Pork Board.
Bottom line Gloria Borger’s husband is as inside Washington DC as you can get.
This was a total hit job, bringing up decades old accusations about a newsletter that everyone agrees was written by others, while Dr. Paul was practicing medicine. Further, as Justin Ramindo has clearly shown , most of the charges were made by people who couldn’t have read the newsletters in full context.
Full disclosure on my prior post: I can’t stand Gloria or any of the talking bobble heads that regularly appear on CNN to recite their Kabuki lines. They are all Washington insiders and they add nothing to moving this country forward.
Thank you for your efforts on behalf of truth Todd. All of Western Capitalism including the U.S. Military is arrayed against Ron Paul.
Paul will most likely win Iowa. Romney will win NH, Paul will likely finish no higher than third. S. Carollina is likely to go to Gingrich. BUt, by how much. Then………Florida. That will be when things get interesting.
Gingrich is holding pretty firm in Florida.
Oh, yeah? Just think of how history would have played out differently if we’d had Paulsen instead of Nixon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9a5IMubIFg&feature=relmfu
Everybody should just vote for the candidate that they deem to be the most evil. Chances are we’ll all be wrong. Whatta country. (eye roll)
Thanks for looking into that.
Unsurprised.
Of course the US Military hates Paul bc Paul is threatening the vast CHA-CHING of the MIC.
Proud to endorse and act upon your reasoning process. Still hoping for a miracle better option, though.
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2011/12/20/we-shall-overcome/
“On both the neoconservative “right” and the Obama-ite “left,” the spittle is flying: the gate-keepers of the politically permissible are practically frothing at the mouth, letting fly an outburst of political Tourette’s Syndrome, with epithets like “geezer,” “crank,” “crazy old uncle,” and “pestilential little locust.” There are several themes to these hit-pieces, and they can be broken down accordingly: “
LOL. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Good on you for sharing that. I must say this post is not up to DDay’s usual standards. He must be getting tired, can’t imagine why ;-).
That was good. I might add, it’s not just racism, but tribalsim that is at play in group appeals.
I am with you mswinkle. It does seem strange that a libertarian like Ron Paul is getting hit for his views yet there seems to be no coverage about Mitt Romney Flipping and Flopping all over the place. Where is the MSM interviews of this guy. I have seen no hard hitting interviews anywhere. I hope FDL is not becoming a client of the MSM.
I will vote for him and I am a black man with very anti-racist views. I will vote for him because he is anti unnecessary war. I will vote for him because he believes in less government not militarized government. I will vote for him because he stands by what he says. I will vote for him because I will not vote for Nobel Piece price winner and warmonger President Obama again.
Paul is a carpetbagger from Pennsylvania who moved to a district that fills up with “snowbirds” every winter. These folks are old, white and Republican. They come to Surfside for the mild winter in their trailers and RVs. And they vote for wingnuts.
Good lord… why are the Ron Paul fanatics always so quick to be paranoid? “He’ll be assassinated” … “the whole world is against him” … why is it so complicated?
Here’s why it’s extremely unlikely that we’ll ever see a Candidate Paul (let alone President Paul):
1. To Republicans, he’s a crazy, hippy, pot-smoking liberal-in-conservative clothing.
2. To Democrats, he’s a crazy, racist, anti-choice poor alternative to a REAL liberal.
I love his stated commitment to civil liberties, and his opposition to war (both abroad and “on drugs”). But I’ve been freshly burned by Obama (who also promised Great Things during the election, then pretty much instantly flipped into Bush, part 2, after the inauguration) so I no longer believe the pre-election hype. And his racist, anti-choice leanings are enough to remind me that he’s not the Second Coming, just a guy who happens to state a couple of views that I agree with. So was Candidate Obama.
Here’s a decent analysis, via The Atlantic, via Glenn Greenwald.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/12/grappling-with-ron-pauls-racist-newsletters/250206/
That is a thoughtful article; thanks for the link.
You’re welcome, but Glenn really deserves the thanks. ;-) We all need to be a lot more thoughtful this time around than in the past.
Let he who his without sin throw the first stone!
Heh. If only it worked that way lol.
Ron Paul this month’s “None of the above” choice of republicans. Poor Gingrich didn’t even get a whole calendar month as Flavor of the Weak
The key for Paul is if he can fund raise in the event he wins Iowa and runs neck and neck in NH. I wonder how many Hope & Change suckers who ponied up for Obama might send their cash to him.
1 in 5 Dems appear to have buyers remorse 4 years later
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/53154399-90/percent-poll-obama-voters.html.csp
I did read this Garden State Journal. I’ve never read a daily newspaper like this. It’s totally conservative and blasting to the max. It’s, wow–that Third Party Candidates & Antichrist article…”Ron Paul is a dream president…”