I mentioned this briefly yesterday, but the Greek bailout is truly in trouble, and it’s unclear whether the problem lies with Greece or the bondholders. Either way, it’s not as if anyone will suffer other than the Greek people.
Germany and France warned Greece on Monday it will get no more bailout funds until it agrees with creditor banks on a bond swap and pressed for an early deal to avert a potential default in the euro zone’s most debt-stricken nation.
They rejected both a call by a European Central Bank policymaker to abandon plans to make private investors take losses, and a leaked International Monetary Fund memo that cast doubt on Athens’ ability to reform its public finances.
“We must see progress on the voluntary restructuring of Greek debt,” Merkel told a joint news conference. “From our point of view, the second Greek aid package including this restructuring must be in place quickly. Otherwise it won’t be possible to pay out the next tranche for Greece.”
Gotta love that the ECB wants to protect debt holders entirely. This tells you that, in the event of a default, the ECB will come rushing to the rescue of the debt holders, mostly banks, and the Greek people will have nobody to turn to. So when Merkozy put pressure and threaten the next tranche of bailout funds, it inevitably helps the debt holders get a better deal. Because Greece is the only entity truly threatened by a default.
Remember that Germany helped negotiate the deal with Greek debt holders to take a 50% haircut. Now they’ve become completely hands-off on the deal, leaving a weak Greek government with no leverage to negotiate. Predictably, the creditors are bailing on the agreement, and nobody knows yet whether this “voluntary” haircut will trigger credit default swaps.
Meanwhile, to what are Greeks turning in this crisis? Subsistence farming.
Nikos Gavalas and Alexandra Tricha, both 31 and trained as agriculturalists, were frustrated working on poorly paying, short-term contracts in Athens, where jobs are scarce and the cost of living is high. So last year, they decided to start a new project: growing edible snails for export.
As Greece’s blighted economy plunges further into the abyss, the couple are joining with an exodus of Greeks who are fleeing to the countryside and looking to the nation’s rich rural past as a guide to the future. They acknowledge that it is a peculiar undertaking, with more manual labor than they, as college graduates, ever imagined doing. But in a country starved by austerity even as it teeters on the brink of default, it seemed as good a gamble as any.
See, there’s always hope for people, they can put their college degrees to work and live off the land! So what is everyone worried about?




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This one has already grabbed the attention of the ‘wingers::
Furor in Greece over pedophilia as a disability
LINK.
Heart-breaker, big time! Bastids!
The Greek parents too poor to care for their children
Greece’s financial crisis has made some families so desperate they are giving up the most precious thing of all – their children.
LINK.
The MOTUs must extract their pound of flesh.
It might be a good idea if we all learned to produce some of our own food. Just sayin’ . . .
“Gotta love that the ECB wants to protect debt holders entirely…”
Central banks always act to protect the credit markets (= holders of debt). They’re terrified of default and its deflationary effects. Of course debt levels are now so high in Europe, US, and Japan, that it may have to happen anyway for those economies to ever recover. No pain, no gain.
Yep. I got an established kale and chard garden going these days.
Should I dump my mutual funds before this Greek “souvlaki” hits the fan????
Hey, for years I have grown my own…….uh…… never mind.
Do you? And if so, how much?
I haven’t a clue. Economic insanity has gone well beyond my pay grade.
my hero
I don’t now, but seriously think I should start. Bending is very difficult for me though.
I have friends who garden (and I benefit from their overage). If you’ve never tried it, you are in for a surprise to find out how much work and how expensive it is.
Wonder if Nikos and Alexandra are able to pay their taxes now?
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-12-31/world/greece.taxes_1_income-taxes-greek-press-tax-evasion?_s=PM:WORLD
The KEY to gardening is having a neighbor or a relative with a garden. Ssame applies to a swimming pool or trampoline.
I just read it was mostly “Hedge Funds” over at Reuters. And where indeed counting on a complete payment, so had been gobbling up as much as possible.
And had been refusing to take any loss. or restructure.
This reminds me of the disparity between pseudo wealth and real wealth. Real wealth is land stewardship to produce crops, not corporate megacropping which destroys the land, but actual individual farmers doing what farmers have done for centuries. The migration to the cities in search of pseudo wealth has begun to collapse and that is a very good thing.
As far as climate is concerned, we are seeing huge swings of the pendulum as the planet makes the attempt to correct for the imbalance of atmospheric conditions, and that’s very scary, like a ship lurching in huge waves at sea. Going back to the land and restoring it is one way we all help to stabilize our earthship – not by rushing to one side or another but by recognizing where our wealth lies and working to enhance it.
It’s happening with farmers’ markets. It’s happening with the Occupy movement. It’s happening with a new generation seeking real wealth instead of ‘dreams of my father.’
And it has nothing to do with making money from money transactions. Or even with buying gold, for crying out loud.
Wow, this is a great time to be alive! We’ve got a planet to help – what could be more motivational than that?
I have know some Greeks in my time. They are a stubborn, belligerent, combative bunch. THey ain;t gonne like this “unshared austerity”.
Ding. Ding. Ding.
In economics, that’s called the “free rider ‘problem’ “. Problem is, of course from the macroeconomic perspective. From the individual POV, it’s a huge benefit.
I know, and then you add in my physical issues, and it becomes clear I’d be better off robbing old ladies lol. Present company excepted, of course. ;-)
Last year we had a huge, devasatiting drought from Feb-Oct.
From Dec 24 to yesterday, my neighborhood has gotten 12 inches of rain. We had three tornadoes yesterday. IN JANUARY.
I’m beginniong to think Al Gore was right.
My honey costs me hundreds of dollars per one pound jars.
I call that the “free rider corollary”.
Start your seeds right now! Nichols Nursery in Oregon puts out a catalogue every year and has patiently sent it to me even when I couldn’t afford to purchase for a long stretch. (And no, they are complete strangers to me, so my only benefit will be to keep them in business.) From them I’ve planted dwarf kale, (my canaries love that), chard, garlic, shallots, peas (the earlier the better, plant under mulch and they’ll be safe) beans, tomatoes (start them in foam coffeecups on the gas stove as early as you like – there’s no time except in the heat of summer that can’t be done). It’s a huge thrill to see how tiny things really need to grow and even if you err and they expire – compost! It’s win/win all the way. Even your mistakes are good for the environment!
I have teenytiny space, and I garden in a sunroom with southwest exposure during the winter. Chard, parsley, peppers do fine there. It’s been very cold for December, but chard under glass outside looks fantastic still.
Good on you, Greeks!
I used to have a girlfriend like that lol.
Funds for hedges? What could be better!
Here is an idea who’s time is coming soon:
THE CREDITORS GET NOTHING!
Governments that are only collections agents for international banksters will be overthrown in favor of governments that tell creditors to go fuck themselves. The people will have had enough of paying standing armies to enforce the claims of their creditors.
But he’s FAT!!!!
Weather is just the beginning of the problem. Big pests (deer, coyotes, bears, etc), smaller pests (rabbits, moles, etc), and even smaller pests (bugs, viruses, mold, etc). Then there’s soil quality, so you must order dump trucks full of the ‘right kind, or become a rocket scientist to figure out how to treat your own soil to make things grow in it. I could go on, but you’ve got the point.
I have an herb garden, but I once read herbs are weeds, which accounts for my moderate ‘success.’
Read my intervening posts.
And BTW, if I did a garden, my crops would come in at the same time they are abundant and relatively cheap at the market. What’s the point.
On a very serious note, the seed companies have made sure that it is almost impossible to acquire seeds that will go to seed, so you have to purchase seed stock anew every year instead of generating your own. The corps have made great progress in ensuring that food and water will only be available thru corporations in the future.
Locally, there’s a revival of heirloom crops. I think (though am not sure) that you can propagate from last year’s. Local organic farmers sell seedlings for a few things in the spring.
Well, there’s gardening and then there’s gardening. Mine has cost me thirty dollars in seeds this season. Most years no seed purchases are necessary as I let veggies go to seed but there were some crops like peas that last year’s drought wasn’t kind to. Not everything is a bed of roses (but I do have some!)
Save every organic scrap, sneak over and grab that neighbor’s bags of leaf refuse on the side of the road for garbage pick up, canary cage cleanings, wood ashes – there’s your garden! Think small to start and use what you’ve got. Be buddhistminded and save every worm for the tiny space you are cultivating by hand. Mulch to protect and feed those dear little wormbuddies.
Gardening doesn’t have to be expensive.
Buddhism is so not me.
Yes, did so, thanks – long ago had tried bees up on our roof – not good but we did have one super year. And though they always zeroed in on me and my darkhaired son if the least bit tetchy, I actually did myself hive a swarm once, very proud of myself for that (even though they are least dangerous then.) Scary in the midst of all those hummers!
I love to grow stuff; must be the maori in me.
Yes, that’s the only way to avoid the corporate stranglehold, but of course the supply is limited. It’s really pretty scary when you think about it.
Not even with respect to wormcritters? :)
I get only the heirlooms from Nichols. Don’t even do hybrids, let alone gm’s. They are still out there.
I do trees, and as I mentioned, herbs. Even trees are a pain in the butt bc the size I can afford to buy, around 1-2″ diameter trunk, but be protected from deer rubs in the late summer, girdling at ground level by critters in the winter, and general modest survival rate if you plant that small. Not to mention droughts as most I’ve planted are too far away from the house to be watered easily.
Worms are fine. And I admit to adoring my bee girls.
It’s easy to save tomato seeds from your own crops. Just put in water for a few days, strain them out onto tissue and store. Once they are dry you can even immediately plant – I just pop them into any of my small pots of chard in the sunroom.
No sun enters my house in the winter. Walls too thick and windows too small.
There have been a couple articles in the Financial Times over the last few days indicating that the bond deal is in fact moving along quite well — for a haircut around 50-60%… and the CDSs not kicking in (which would defeat the project).
The ECB under Draghi seems to be respecting its engagements to German reactionaries… verbally… while in deed moving along on a far more progressive course.
It seems that with Mr Draghi, we must watch deeds, more than listen to words.
But that’s because you pay somebody to do the actual work involved, right?
Correct. If I didn’t do that, they would have died off right away. There is way too much to know, new bad things happening (varroa mites 30 years ago, new pests more recently, weirder weather so you must figure out when to supplemental feed to name a few). No good books, as like organic farming, those who do it pass info by word of mouth and do not write books.
PeasantParty put me onto a bee keeper named Cote who manages 100 hives for other people in NYC (my guy has 200 hives he manages for clients). Cote made the interesting point that city hives are more productive than country hives. There is plenty of ‘food,’ i.e. diversity of trees and flora to provide food, but fewer threats from other pests or chemical farming, not to mention monoculture which is the death of bees.
That is good to know about, juliania, thank you. I have a friend here who has her own heirloom garden going. Problem is, there won’t be enough such sources if the supply and distribution system suffers a general failure.
Yeah, it’s not something one can decide to do on his/her own without a lot of help.
I can plant enough veggies in my shitty soil to get by but I’m never gonna be a gardener.
Trick is to buy enough seed to store to get one through a period of seed collection from one’s own garden to create one’s own seed bank. That done one could trade seeds to increase variety in diet.
Well, it just occurred to me in ‘calculating’ (just guessed) the cost, I should prolly deduct the value of the venison my bee keeper gives me in exchange for allowing him to hunt on my property.
Whew, I feel a lot better now.
I gave jars of the honey for Xmas to my adult relatives for the first time in 2010. Disappointment registered on their faces, like they were thinking ‘all she got me for Xmas was a shitty jar of honey that I could buy in the store.’ This year I was greeted with “Didja bring any honey, didja didja.” Real stuff bears no resemblance to supermarket stuff. But their jaws dropped when I indicated how much each jar ‘costs.’
So much knowledge of the older ways of gardening and beekeeping is being lost as our parents’ and grandparents’ generations dwindle. Sometimes you can be lucky and find an older person who needs help with physical labor in exchange for teaching. An apprenticeship, in a sense.
You’re going to learn about apple trees if I recall.
Yep. Almost did with beekeeping, but we were transferred about the same time.
Community. That is the answer.
I told that to my beekeeper who goes to some seminar every year. He is NOT a self-promoter (unlike Cote), so was pissed that he was not invited to be on a panel. Since he’s had 20 years experience (and never read a book, just listens to the bees; unlike me, he is zen), he’s been able to rediscover a lot of older techniques, and should ‘market’ himself that way to the organizers of the seminars.
I will also say in his favor that he sees things that I just can’t see bc I do not have his experience, even though I watch him closely every time he comes. The funniest example is picking up one dead bee in a pile of hundreds at the base of the hive and announcing: This is a successful drone.
Just give yourself 20 years :)
I haven’t got 20 years. Which is why I cut back on tree planting.
“souvlaki” means marinated meat – it rarely hits the fan.
:-)
LOL :-)
Amen – but is nice to look at the trees I planted 40 and 30 years ago at homes I no longer own!
Q: When is the best time to plant a tree?
A: 20 years ago.
I’ve got quite a few of those, and they are a treasure to be sure.
I have also done a 180 on my ‘tree policy’ in the last couple of years. I used to let every one that nature planted (mostly pin oaks from squirreled away acorns) grow, but many of them have grown up too close together to allow development into glorious adults. So I’ve been thinning more than planting. (The ones I’ve planted allow enough space to grow into specimen trees.) I also paid a lot of money to have 3 large, but partially diseased and shitty looking white spruce removed last autumn to create a viewshed.
Wow. This thread spontaneously turned into a discussion of agriculture and animal husbandry. If you have none of these agrarian skills you can still revert to hunting and gathering. Watch the birds. What they eat is safe for humans.
Stream of consciousness from Greek bailout to agriculture was how to survive in dire times.