Here’s what we can now say. Of the hundreds of millions if not billions of electoral ballots processed over the past decade, the two most prominent cases of voter fraud involve the Republican Secretary of State of Indiana, and accomplices of James O’Keefe. Yesterday in New Hampshire, O’Keefe had the bright idea of getting some of his lackies to impersonate a voter. This would display how easy it is to commit voter fraud, or so one assumes was their point. Well, not only was it not all that easy, but the lackies in question could see jail time as a result.
Federal law bans not only the casting of, but the “procurement” of ballots “that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held.”
Hamline University law professor David Schultz told TPM that there’s “no doubt” that O’Keefe’s accomplices violated the law.
“In either case, if they were intentionally going in and trying to fraudulently obtain a ballot, they violated the law,” Schultz said. “So right off the bat, what they did violated the law.”
Election law expert Rick Hasen, who writes the Election Law Blog, joked in an email to TPM that O’Keefe’s team should “next show how easy it is to rob a bank with a plastic gun.”
“Who in their right mind would risk a felony conviction for this? And who would be able to do this in large enough numbers to (1) affect the outcome of the election and (2) remain undetected?” Hasen wrote.
Let’s not lose in all of this the fact that the incident was not successful. A poll watcher witnessed the O’Keefe colleague trying to vote as a dead man, and promised to follow up on it. Needless to say, this doesn’t appear in the video from the O’Keefe factory.
So remember, the biggest incidents of voter fraud that we know about came from a Republican Secretary of State and a conservative operative. Given these facts, maybe only Republican Secretaries of State and conservative operatives should have to show voter ID at the polls. After all, they’re the ones with the history of potential voter fraud.




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…the biggest incidents of voter fraud that we know about…
Ohio ’04 and Chattanooga too, Dday…! 8-(
O’Keefe & his “lackies” will not even get a tap on the wrist for this stunt. They are protected by powerful friends in high places.
At most, the incident will somehow be mangled into “proving” how Democrats are constantly engaging in *successful* Voter Fraud.
amirite? time will tell…
Did anybody ever go to prison for O’Keefe’s attempt at bugging a U.S. Senator’s local office?
No, I didn’t think so.
Just fun loving kids. No one on the National scene should be be accountable for breaking the law, let alone their foibles or petty line crossing. I’m sure the President (and Constitutional law expert) finds what’s past is past and breaking the law, Bradley Manning excepted of course, shouldn’t be an offense necessitating a trial.
At least they were caught by a poll-watcher. That says that someone is actually watching. James and his “boys” think they are so cute – I’d like to see them in jail.
Ann Coulter is still walking free.
Besides, I gotta question. That state still has paper ballots?
I just sent out a question on twitter. Need some ideas or suggestions on what to do about black box vote machines. Anybody?
May I just say, “hee hee hee.”
Now to read past the headline…
Let’s not forget what K. Harris and J. Bush did in Florida…2008.
That was a well planned and executed voter fraud.
Yeah. My first thoughts as well. I hope he has his costume wardrobe ready for the cellmates.
What O’Keefe needed to do was to get the FBI to front for him. That’s all the FBI is doing these days: committing crimes (entrapment mostly) to prove their relevance.
Okay, I’m back. Geez, so he’s shopping the video around anyway? Shameless. Or possibly, not in his right mind.
Love your suggestion that only
Did O’Keefe even wait till he was off probation for his previous scheme? If not, (I’d be surprised if he had that much discipline) he should be violated (that is, dragged back to court by the probation dept) for getting arrested again, and with luck, we won’t have to hear from him again for oh, say, two to five years.
(disclaimer: I have no knowledge of what the underlying sentence which was probated actually was.)
I think we may get to see some real old fashioned vote fraud in the SC repub primary. I’ve already had 4 (FOUR) calls today from automated callers asking me to push 1 for Newt, 2, for Romney, and so on.
At the end of the call/survey it said it was paid for by Newt for Prez.
When is the primary in SC? I know, I know — I’ve been avoiding the coverage…
just figure you’ll know (and maybe you can press record) when you get the call telling you that Election Day is the day AFTER the actual date.
Hold a peaceful revolution?
ROTFL!
Yes, I could do that. I should record all those robo-call townhall meetings that the reps do.
We are already trying to do that. I would just like to see something done before November!
I’ll second your hee hee hee and add a snort.
I know I’m not supposed to judge a book by its cover, but, really, just look at that face. It needs to have a sign hanging over it that says, “Your fist here.”
(giggle!)
This is a fun thread. I believe everyone in America now knows the meaning of schadenfreude, and gawd, there is a lot of freude in the schaden.
I needed that…been working too hard propounding legal arguments to a (non-lawyer) troll over at TBogg’s latest. The guy is seriously snark-impaired, too.
I’m off to make supper for me and the feline masters of the house. Hoping for more good news…
The poster boy for American Conservatism today. The kid everybody hated.
WTF does this guy have to do to go to jail tap a senator’s phone line, try and Date rape a CNN reporter, vote fraud etc etc!
Well isn’t he a smug bastard.
Who is backing this clown with cash for repeated failure?
I just sent out a question on twitter. Need some ideas or suggestions on what to do about black box vote machines. Anybody?
Ask at BradBlog the know everything about stolen elections.
He’d make some convict a fine girlfriend.
It was well protected from the law but any vote fraud that results in Pat Buchanan getting more votes than Gore in a Jewish District…not so well planned.
Ohio ’04 was ‘election fraud’, not ‘voter fraud’ like Ann Coulter’s having voted from a precinct she didn’t have a right to vote from.
Unlike rules, distinctions are made to be kept.
Can you say inbred?
Given his script for seducing that CNN reporter the sooner he gets laid by some
onething the better.OZ that HBO prison drama had more romance and a more realistic plot than Jame’s script.
James parents can:) James I am sure has no idea of the breeding part of inbred.
That’s not how I understand it. Voter caging was used to eliminate a huge number of voters.
Greg [Palast] didn’t just expose the mugging of democracy. As a University of Chicago trained researcher, he was able to detail how Katherine Harris used an outside vendor to create caging lists that prevented legitimate voters from casting their ballots.
Voter fraud AKA GOP voter suppression. More projection from the “real” fraudsters.
So no word about the Obama Justice Dept going after vote fraud by a guy on probation? Next question do James’s friends have felony records James aside from having his probation revoked for planing a felony can also have his probation revoked for hanging with felons, plus any crime committed over state lines is a felony.
Who ever gave James cash given his last felony can’t claim he trusted James not to break any laws given his past.
A loan shark fronts a bank robber money the loan shark really can’t say he did not know the cash was to buy a gun and getaway car.
Why did’nt any of the poll workers freak out about how old they were? This is absurd, its like they did’nt even care like it was business as usual. When I use to live & vote in my dad’s district we have the same name, a poll worker would freak out like I was commenting fraud cause of the birthdate like there was no way I was 35yrs. older than I looked. Then I would have to explain to them that we had the same name & to double check.
Did Roger Stone ever go to jail? I’m wondering what kind of history the O’Keefe posse is trying to live.
Need a lawyer to respond. Most elections are state, not federal, enterprises? Depends on the offices on the ballot? Aren’t primaries state elections?
Dispelling the Myth of Election 2000: Did Nader Cost Gore the …
9 Nov 2000 … Pat Buchanan himself has admitted that most of his votes in Palm … butterfly ballot cost Al Gore thousands of votes, more than enough to … Jews for Buchanan: Did you hear the one about the theft of the American Presidency? …
cagreens.org/alameda/city/0803myth/myth.html – En caché – Similares
http://www.google.com.mx/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=pat+buchanan+more++jewish++than+Gore&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&ei=ozUOT-GiJ4SnsQLzvbSfBg
Sorry I could not get a direct cite tried twice the net is acting strange I only mentioned it because I remember Pat said it on TV.
I agree Greg did prove vote fraud but maybe more than one kind of vote fraud happened?
Agree need a lawyer state primary but foe Federal office so not sure. But unless James and all his friends are residents of the state any crime that crosses state lines the FBI can take the case if they want.
http://www.cagreens.org/alameda/city/0803myth/myth.html
If Pat admits he thought Gore got the votes that went for him who am I to argue with Pat when he speaks in direct conflict with his own interests?
There’s probably no accounting of or to what the R’s will do to win.
True:)
Dick Tuck…
Voter fraud, what happened in ’00, and ’04?
What of the voter fraud Brad Freidma and Brad;s Blog have dcumented forever?
Why has none of THAT garnered legal attention and prosecution?
Whilst I appreciate any and all efforts to incarcerate and lock up the O’Keefe’s of the world, their masters and lords always walk free, and for those masters and lords, there’s another dumbfuck wannabe up and comer that will come along on the next trolley or bus . .
For voter fraud, I’ll take Brad and your work all day long for reporting, but I wanna know Mr. Dayen, when do the big boys swing in the noose? When do they even get named and charged?
Much less prosecuted, convicted and sentenced.
When?
Cuz that’s basically, MY bottom assed line, WHEN!!!
Ok, I’m better now, thanks for the read and all yer work Mr. Dayen.
;-)
Another Republican voter fraud under-investigated or ignored: non-MA resident Mitt Romney voted using the address of his son’s basement in MA twice, I think. Recalled WI State Senator voted in his home district using his wife’s home although he lived with his mistress in Madison (well outside his district). Already mentioned: Ann Coulter voted at least once, outside her district, apparently because she wasn’t home and any municipality she happens to be in on election day will do for her.
I’m sure there are others.
Loan sharks: ain’t that what corporate PACs really are?
Nope! He’s only a little more than halfway through his three-year probation for that stunt.
worked fine though
This time, O’Keefe violated his probation. He’s up Shit Crick.
It will be fun to see whether the Feds decide to do serious discovery on this toad. That would likely reveal his sugar daddies, and Breitbart’s as well.
This little stuff is cover for selective tabulation fraud (augmented by voter suppression) to come and to make election fraud work it the fraudulent vote count has to be plausible. So all the media hype, debates and advertising and abundance of candidates is supposed to make us think there are more conservative voters than we think. Remember there are no exit polls any more.
In Mass, we have paper ballots. You mark them (fill in the oval) like school tests. They are then electronically scanned as they are inserted into a locked ballot box.
They can be easily recounted manually, but provide immediate results.
Back for a mo – re question on primaries – primaries are actually run by parties.
Beyond that, yeah, states and their subdivisions (counties, cities, towns, villages, townships, boroughs – ymmv depending on your state’s method of incorporating municipalities. All are considered subdivisions of a state.) run actual elections. Rules about who can run and who can vote in a primary are up to the party whose primary it is.
Not really up on further details. And yes, even elections for federal offices are run by the state subdivisions according to state rules, but for those offices they do have to abide by federal law. (Such as the constitutional rule requiring a candidate for US Senate to be 30 years old.)
Jeez, even the libtard press can’t get the headline right.
Should be: “O’KEEFE & BREITBART PROVE HOW HARD IT IS TO GET AWAY WITH VOTER FRAUD”…..
you mean the zipper to the back
Anyone up for a RICO prosecution against this fuck?