The House Republican position on President Obama’s recess appointments is hard to even express without laughing. GOP Congressmembers are actually saying that they oppose the appointments because Congress is not in recess – and as soon as they finish their vacation and get back to Washington, they’ll have something to say about that. I’ve heard it described as self-negating, and that sounds about right. The other problem here is that process arguments almost always lose to ideological ones, and with the President standing with consumers against predatory financial institutions, and Republicans crying that the Senate wasn’t technically in recess, I see this as a no-contest, at least in the court of public opinion.
Of slightly more consequence is the threat by Senate Republicans to take the President to court. But only slightly.
Top Senate Republicans are weighing whether to file a lawsuit to challenge President Barack Obama’s controversial use of recess appointments, but such a suit looks legally shaky and could ultimately backfire with voters.
Senators will likely make a decision on a possible lawsuit after they return to Washington on January 23, a senior Republican aide told Reuters.
“Everything is on the table,” the aide said.
But there’s no reason to assume that a court will rule the Senate to have standing in such a case; they may not be able to cite a “sufficiently concrete injury.” Anyway, in differences of opinion between the legislative and executive branches, the judicial branch frequently tries to stay out of it by calling it a political question.
There are potential cases that could have merit. If a company regulated or fined by the CFPB or NLRB, which would not be able to be regulated or fined without the recess appointment, sued because the appointments were unconstitutional, you could see the courts taking that case. But it’s not clear yet whether anyone will pursue that lawsuit. In fact, the American Financial Services Association, the main non-bank lender trade group, decided not to sue CFPB over the appointment. The US Chamber of Commerce continues to say that they have not made a final decision, though “we won’t take options off the table,” according to Bruce Josten, their chief lobbyist.
A lawsuit from the Senate also faces the same problems in the court of public opinion of a process argument against an ideological argument. Democrats have been mildly successful in painting Republicans as obstructionists. They would be suing for the right to obstruct again. Anyway, the public doesn’t really care about how things get done, just that they do.
The Senate GOP’s best bet is to encourage some group with standing to sue, and then jump on that. We’ll see if that happens.



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Let them.
Nothing would appear more obstructionist. They have done nothing to appear willing to allow Obama to fill open offices his whole time in office.
A real judiciary would dismiss this suit with prejudice, assesss costs and soundly reprimand the plaintiffs. A corporate owned judiciary may well rule in favor of the fuckers.
I’m sure the Senate Republicans’ Tea Party backers would greatly appreciate them spending our tax dollars on this moronic pursuit.
The Senate GOP should leave this alone. Obama has provided a way to get extreme right wing appointees in during a GOP presidency. So, they should let sleeping dogs lay.
At this point, there is no further Senate confirmation process. There is no need for getting anyone confirmed unless it is a position with a term of 5 years or so.
Ambassadors, Secretaries of this and that? Who needs it?
When the guy gets appointed in the future to the Labor Department who is hell bent on destroying it, I hope Obama has a smile on his face.
Friggin’ IDIOTS. The whole lot of ‘em. If they keep us this shit the GOP may well lose the house again. Now THAT would be interesting. Mitt and a democratic congress???? MIght be fun to watch.
Oh, yeah. Like it was fun to watch Shrub from ’06 to ’08?
Wonder how much O had to pay Rs for this so he could be rid of Cordray.
The Senators may be the ONLY group with a shot at being granted standing, anybody else would be shown the door rapidly.
Can they get standing? Well, I don’t know. The courts are very reluctent to get involved in disputes between the other branches and they can easily avoid that by saying no to standing. I think that’s the path a reasonable court would take.
However, if they file, you can expect them to file in a favorable jurisdiction. I think (Real lawyers, speak up here!) they could file in the state of any senator who signs on to the suit. So they could pick a court is a bright red area who’s decisions would be appealed to Justice Thomas. It would be fairly easy to find an Obama-hating judge who wouldn’t care about his reputation. Such a judge MIGHT issue a restraining order, which would be appealed to Thomas. Who MIGHT leave that order in place while refering to the full court.
Boxturtle (Note: Not a lawyer and the above is full of “IF”)
NOT idiots, but haters. They’re trying hard to put the screws to that which they hate and they’ll grab at any straw.
If they can’t stop Obama, they’ll settle for a political issue and delay.
Their next move will be to defund the agencies that are lead by recess appointments.
Boxturtle (I dunno if they’ll try to tie ‘em up with hearings, or just ignore the recess appointees)
Are you claiming that no Republican president has ever made a recess appointment before? If so, I don’t think the historical record will back you up.
Clinton made 139 recess appointments and Bush made 171.
Oh there you go with all that fact-y stuff, and furthermore: IOKIYAR.
Merci.
Yeah, it’s simultaneously staggering that the Repubs claim this to be some kind of new outrageous tactic, and also not surprising that they can get away with claiming it. Not much of an attention span in the USA.
Uh, no. I could care less. I just know this opens the door wide for appointing someone the GOP has not been able to appoint before–a died in the wool, extreme right winger who would be working night and day to destroy the Labor Department or Education Department or completely dismantle Obama health reform in the HHS Department and now, NO ONE can stop them.
And, all thanks to Obama.
There will now be no blocks the Senate can place to such happening. The door is WIDE open.
You see Democrats will only try to appoint your level headed, but left leaning guys. But, the GOP, Katy-bar-the-door, they are going to use it to appoint someone intending to dismantle these departments and other programs.
Try out their potential appointments to EPA.
Thanks Obama.
These GOP Senators are stupid.
Makes for great theater but bad government. Obama and the Republicrats are laughing at the rest of the USA for actually giving credence to their kabuki.
Whadya mean?
I loved it when he walked into that locked door. :-)
Wrong assumption. This is so both ‘parties’ can get people in who will do what you say and blame it on the other party.
OK, I’m gonna look at the glass as half-full. Let’s let the courts decide on exactly what a “recess” IS and ISN’T. I got no problem with that. This “pro-forma session” crap is…well…. CRAP. Both parties.
The Senate Republicans suck.
Could be “chronic, acute, factual dissociative disorder“.
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I just made that up.
Anybody know how I can “copyright” that????
They don’t care if you think that. In the past all politicians wanted to be liked. Now they just want the money and the power and who cares if anyone likes them.
I see this as harmful for the same reason and I think there is a valid legal case. The Obama administration considered Congress being in session when it came to the payroll tax cut/unemployment extension even though that legislation was passed in pro forma sessions of both the House and Senate while at the same time those same pro forma sessions are now supposed to be considered that Congress was in recess. Aside from the hypocrisy of accepting Congress being in session when it is convenient and then denying it when it is convenient, there’s a whole host of other problems with this.
Obama’s “health reform”, more accurately described as his “platinum gift to the health insurance industry at the expense of the citizenry”, should be destroyed and replaced with single payer that benefits the 99% rather than the 1%.
Still stuck on partisanship? How many Senate “Democrats” voted for Carl Levin’s(D) NDAA that negates habeus corpus for US citizens.
My fave moment was when he looked SO proud of dodging the shoes.
Good point. That WAS the highlight for sure.
I don’t believe the payroll tax holiday was the same situation.
The Senate WAS in recess – the House invoked some rule that said the Senate could not recess more than 3 days, and TRADITION was anything under 10 days meant no appointments.
All Obama did was break the TRADITION. Hard to see how you go to court over that.
But a case could be made that the 30 sec. House meetings meant the Congress as a whole never was in complete recess – and that Senate action required the House to be in recess. It is a stretch but “original intent” folks on the Court work back from the answer they want these “activist judges days”.
Well, when you consider that the Senate confirmation process was put in to “check and balance,” and the recess appointment was only put in to handle emergencies when Congress was not in session–and other similar time pressing situations–the presumption should be in favor of Senate confirmation.
Obstructing? Delaying?
That isn’t for the President to decide.
Do we next have a situation where the President, any President, decides, “Well, you taken too long to consider that bill, I’m just going go around you and implement it anyway.”
Great–when you agree with the bill. Not so great when you don’t.
In my opinion, no recess appointments should take place unless there is an obvious, pressing need to get someone in a position today because of an immediate emergency. Let’s say a hurricane occurs during a recess and, for some reason, a FEMA director is needed immediately.
Not the phony political emergency of “Oh, if we don’t get someone in there to begin dismantling the Labor Department right now the long term health of the economy will be harmed.”
No, you get someone confirmed. And, deal with whatever it takes to gets the votes. Difficult? Tough, that’s the Constitution.
Overall, this for sure works much more to the benefit of the GOP because they are FAR more likely to appoint extremists to various posts.
Can you imagine an EPA with a far right wing director and all the department heads right wing Tea Party people??
with Obama’s action, there is nothing to stop it from happening in the future.
We are in agreement on dismantling Obamacare and replacing with something better.
Obama should welcome this. His message to the Republicans should be “Bring it.”
Joe…If I were Obama, I’d say “Screw you and the horse you rode in on.” BUt your suggestion is probably more appropriate.
I think a “do over” is in order too.
Lest there be a scintilla of doubt that they only represent the top 1%.