A provocative article in Foreign Policy magazine suggests that Israeli Mossad officers recruited members of the Pakistani terrorist organization Jundallah to aid in the covert operations against Iranian targets, including bombings in the Baluchistan region and potentially the assassination of Iranian nuclear scientists. The Mossad officers, according to Mark Perry, posed as American intelligence agents during the recruitment, using US passports.
The memos, as described by the sources, one of whom has read them and another who is intimately familiar with the case, investigated and debunked reports from 2007 and 2008 accusing the CIA, at the direction of the White House, of covertly supporting Jundallah — a Pakistan-based Sunni extremist organization. Jundallah, according to the U.S. government and published reports, is responsible for assassinating Iranian government officials and killing Iranian women and children.
But while the memos show that the United States had barred even the most incidental contact with Jundallah, according to both intelligence officers, the same was not true for Israel’s Mossad. The memos also detail CIA field reports saying that Israel’s recruiting activities occurred under the nose of U.S. intelligence officers, most notably in London, the capital of one of Israel’s ostensible allies, where Mossad officers posing as CIA operatives met with Jundallah officials.
The officials did not know whether the Israeli program to recruit and use Jundallah is ongoing. Nevertheless, they were stunned by the brazenness of the Mossad’s efforts.
“It’s amazing what the Israelis thought they could get away with,” the intelligence officer said. “Their recruitment activities were nearly in the open. They apparently didn’t give a damn what we thought.”
According to the story, the Bush Administration found out about this and did nothing, but the Obama Administration scaled back US-Israel cooperation on intelligence targeting Iran.
“We don’t do bang and boom,” a recently retired intelligence officer said. “And we don’t do political assassinations.” Israel regularly proposes conducting covert operations targeting Iranians, but is just as regularly shut down, according to retired and current intelligence officers. “They come into the room and spread out their plans, and we just shake our heads,” one highly placed intelligence source said, “and we say to them — ‘Don’t even go there. The answer is no.’”
If this exonerates the US, I’m hard-pressed to see it. “Shutting down” covert operations against Iran would mean actually shutting them down. Instead, nuclear scientists have been assassinated with a disturbing frequency in recent years, and Iran just captured a US drone surveillance plane. So I’m somewhat skeptical of drawing a full conclusion here. At the very least, this happened with the knowledge of US officials, and not much of an effort has been made to stop it.
But there’s no question that, if true, Israel deserves massive condemnation for engaging in terrorist operations with known terrorist groups, and for encouraging attacks on Americans by posing as US intelligence agents to shift the blame. The “special relationship” between the US and Israel involves the forced participation of every US politician publicly announcing undying support for Israel, while Israel spies on the US and steals the identity of US officials in its covert operations. This relationship is simply disproportionate.
And this has had real consequences. In a diplomatic note, Iran accused the CIA as being behind the most recent killing of a nuclear scientist. Meanwhile, the Pentagon sent a “surge” of troops and materiel over to the region as the tensions rise. Much of this stems from new sanctions on Iranian oil, with an attack on the financing. Iran lashed out today by saying that efforts from other OPEC nations to increase oil production to make up for the freezing out of Iranian product in the marketplace would be seen as an unfriendly act with “consequences” to come.
We’re seeing a significant rising in the possibilities for war, and the genus of much of the tension comes from spy games played by either Israel or a Western consortium, outside the boundaries of international law.




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I’d like to think the USA is truly backing away from Israel! Maybe this is related…
Thanks so much for giving this thing the analysis it deserves, David. Very disturbing stuff, indeed!
How is it that one country’s terrorist is another’s hero (with the converse also usually the case)?
Major U.S.-Israel military exercise postponed: report
ew had two posts on this.
Two.
One.
Includes, in her usual fashion, a raft of cogent critiques of the FP article.
By the time I got done reading the posts and the comments, I had no idea who was false flagging whom. Which should be the default hypothesis for all these covert wars.
You never find out what was really going on, not even decades later.
Well, unless wikileaks can get the docs.
Let’s just let Iran get a nuke. In fact, I think a delegation of Liberals should personally build one and deliver it to Iran aboard a jumbo jet decorated like a birthday cake.
There are worse things than having a nuke. Like invading a country in an aggressive war. It’s been 2/3rds of a century and no country has used a nuclear weapon since the end of World War II. At some point, we have to conclude that the odds of using these weapons is extremely low.
On the other hand, when we tally all the deaths from Iraq alone, that were caused in no small part due to a fear of them developing nuclear weapons, we have to conclude that the quest to deter development of these weapons has led to more premature deaths than the weapons have in their entire history (more than Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined).
So, yes, I say frankly that Iran getting a nuclear weapon is not such a bad thing. The behavior of the Islamic Republic is of a risk-adverse state actor that does not invade neighboring country, and in fact, doesn’t even get involved in border skirmishes or limited military actions against neighboring states.
If Iran had a Nuke, then the US, Britain and Israel would not attack Iran. If they don’t get a nuke, soon, they may be attacked.
History has shown that the US, Great Britain and Israel only attack defenseless nations.
Can you name one Nuclear-Armed Nation that has been attacked by the US?
What will Iran do with a Nuke?
In view of the Covenant (2nd?), it seems there’s a ‘false’ cutout of foreskin, for over-and-under deniability, more than a so-called false flag.
A nuclear Iran will be a disaster.
Like a nuclear North Korea was a disaster? What’s changed since North Korea set off a nuclear test in 2006? Nothing of consequence. The balance of power wasn’t tipped in any appreciable way.
At most it confirmed the status quo and ensures against the possibility of war in the Korean peninsula. Good. If a nuclear Iran means the U.S. is forced to withdraw the military option against the Islamic Republic, then again – good.
Pakistan.
Does raining missiles down from drones in your territory count? Or invading your territory with an assassination team?
Talk to some Iranians who left after the Revolution and hear them say that Iran wants nukes to use on their own people — if necessary.
Dewars?
Going to get milk & cookies. Let me do the honors this time. Plenty for two. (Home made oatmeal cookies with raisins, walnuts AND choc mini morsels.)
There have been (limited) wars with nuclear armed nations. However, drone attacks in Pakistan don’t count. They have been done with the complicity and agreement of their government.
And frankly, expatriates and dissidents always exaggerated the villainy of the country they oppose. Saying Iran wants to use nukes on its own people is laughable. No country has ever done such a thing, including Stalin’s Soviet Union and Mao’s People Republic.
I love Mr. Dayen’s n Mz. WHeeler’s reads on this . . .
Having said that, I’ve not seen ANYTHING approaching your clear and simple takeaway from it all, brilliant, ma’am.
It’s all kabuki on a level that, as you suggest, that we’ll NEVER really know about . . . we can only presume the worst, that they are all in consort and playing the world public like puppets on a string . . .
Great simple takeaway.
Right on, my brother!
Agreed in full . . .
N Korea isn’t situated in the middle of the Mid East, nor is it a major exporter of oil.
That sounds better than our current plan of shoveling printed dollars to Israel for “defense” (upkeep of the Palestinian workcamp) while we continue to disenfranchise millions at home.
It’s evidently laughable, but pointing to two extremely impoverished and repressed groups isn’t sobering. So, which folks was South Africa deterring with its nukes at the time? Finally, any use of nukes anywhere is against everyone’s own people.
Let’s drop the assumption right now that Iran is pursuing a weapon. So far the IAEA, (of which Iran is a member), has only ever seen evidence of nuclear development for the purposes of power generation.
Yums! Dark choc? I’ll skip the milk. (I see a periodontist twice a year only so I never need to see one.)
I have seen somewhere that the US Army is seriously opposing these CIA shenanigans. Even a military coup if congress does not get its head out of its ass and stop such policy before something really bad happens. Can anyone confirm, deny, or enlighten, please?
There’s an idiom which properly expresses the “special relationship” between the US and Israel: “the tail wagging the dog”.
The subordination of US policy to the whims of Israel’s war-mongering is a relic of the Cold War era which needs to be dispensed with. When much of the Middle East was under the sway of the Soviet Union, it made sense to cooperate with Israel to retain a toe-hold in the region. Nowadays, however, it serves only to embroil our nation in conflicts of Israel’s design which do not serve our national interest. Our alliance with Israel puts us on the wrong side of many important issues, most prominently, Iran.
The US should terminate its sanctions against Iran and allow them to pursue their legal objectives regarding nuclear power generation, as is their right under the non-proliferation treaty. Meanwhile, the US should impose sanctions against Israel for their theft and occupation of Palestinian territories in defiance of UN resolutions, their blockade of Gaza, and their own illegal nuclear arsenal.
Israel is not our friend. Iran is not our enemy.
That would be a story worth reading, if true. Americans need some hope that this long national nightmare might be close to over.
The only place on the internet that I have found that has intelligent discussions on Iran’s nuclear program is the interviews by Scott Horton on antiwar.com.
If you read emptywheel’s posts that I linked above, there’s a possibility that military is deeply involved thru JSOP.
Tell it to GE & Westinghouse, who hate when someone goes rogue and probably superior. True story, from 1979: I knew a bookstore manager (Little Professor Bookstore) who told me that the wife of the VP of the Westinghouse Nuclear Division (just outside Pittsburgh) regularly came in for a special order of spy novels for her husband, who needed them to relax from all the stress. Right. You know, Three Days Of The Condor, and E. Howard Hunt used to write spy junk, y’know?
Yet we are supposed to believe that Israel is our friend. You know who else is your friend? Parasites and cancer cells.
It really has less to do with the Cold War than it does with the Israel lobby taking full advantage of our corrupt system of government to the highest bidders. 98% of Congress is in the pocket of the Israel lobby and lives in fear of crossing it.
All this brings up the specter of the only nuclear exchange likely may be between Israel and US via Europe in the Med.
The neocon/AIPAC war whores in DC are beating the drums. Obama seems ready to go along for the ride. This IN SPITE OF the fact that his Sec. of Defense (Panetta) said publicaly Iran is NOT now trying to build nuclear weapons.
Coming up – mideast war #3.
The “ME is under the sway of the Soviet Union” was made up out of whole cloth by the U.S. MIC so that they could sell more junk.
Thanks,eCHAN. I read them (very good) and that lead to a lot of other stuff which may or not be accurate. Hard to tell, aye?
In 1909 at the Clark University lectures he gave, Freud said that America is a mistake. Now and for some time it seems that Israel is a mistake. In 50 years Neptune will be a mistake. Bu we never get used to it…
That’s how I felt when I was done. You will never know, not even 40 years from now. USS Liberty, for example.
Oilmen do not like competition, of any kind.
The Israelis are not our friends or allies.
Knew all I needed to know about the Liberty 40 years ago. Not much has changed.
One of the commenters on a thread last nite said there’s a possibility that Iran’s leaders are considering payment for their oil in another currency.
Just as with Saddam’s removal when he spoke of shifting to Euro and Quaddiffi’s removal when he spoke of accepting an african currency, I’m beginning to think it all comes back to dollars and oil –not nukes.
What was your conclusion about why Israel did it? The hypothesis I’ve heard that sounds most believable is that Israel did not want the U.S. to know they were taking over Sinai until it was too late. And the only thing that went wrong, from Israel’s POV, is that they were unable to sink it so that dead men would tell no tales.
Jim wrote
Ha! Wonderful droll humor. Uh, it is humor, isn’t it?
Pakistan doesn’t count because they’re an “ally”.
I’ve noticed that acts of war by the U.S. are not regarded as actual wars by some on this blog.
Freud was wrong about a lot of things and America is still here.
Correct. Those drone attacks are approved by corrupt two-faced Pakistani Leaders in exchange for blood money from the equally corrupt and two faced US Government.
Freud said that cocaine use in moderation is good for one’s health.
The moderation is the hard part.
Tell the 99%, see how many recognize this place.
American Democracy has evolved into Fascism. The key element of fascism is the collusion between government and big business.
And yet on Friday night, the panel on Bill Maher’s “Real Time” acted and spoke as if Iran was minutes away from making a nuclear weapon. When a supposed “liberal” TV show doesn’t question the validity of that belief the USA is on another course for war. Of course, the panel was composed of “Friends of Israel” with Maher, Rob Reiner, Debbie Wasserman Schultz and David Froom.
Good point karenjj2. The USA banksters won’t tolerate another currency replacing “The Almighty Dollar”. After all, it has “God” on it.
Chavez talked of nationalizing the oil shortly before the US State Dept. secretly helped fund the coup against him.
Excellent reporting as usual, David. I’m amazed at the sheer volume, thoroughness, accuracy and variety of information you provide.
Thank you!
karen
Essentially something along that line. They were targeting the surveillance (and the country) that enabled them to win the war –US was feeding intelligence to Israel, i.e. double-cross. It would be helpful to know if the CIA was involved.
That could probably be attributed to the fact that it’s one of two products that we actually produce. The other being bullshit, whether as advertising or propaganda, though that’s probably redundant. It’s especially true when a president identified as a “Democrat” is in power, whether it’s war or destruction of the social safety net.
Unfortunately the democratic republic that was once the USA has migrated south to Latin America and their onetime police states have come north.
A fair exchange is no robbery. /s
BTW, on the other part of your comment, I heard/read (but can’t remember where) that global arms sales declined last year.
I haven’t heard how legs sales came out.
Google is my friend. Here’s the link to 2010 global arms sales. Down 38%!!!
On edit: Oh dear, 5th paragraph: that’s only unclassified arms sales.
Book Salon up with Dylan Ratigan’s Greedy Bastards: How We Can Stop Corporate Communists, Banksters, and Other Vampires from Sucking America Dry hosted by William Black
Short.
Maybe it’s about time for everyone to remember that the premise for the book and film ON THE BEACH was that a nuclear war between Israel and its Arab neighbors resulted in a cloud of radioactive material that slowly circled the earth and killed off all life.
What, they don’t reach the ground?
Thanks for that. It was so long ago that I saw the movie, prolly 1959 when it came out, that I no longer remember much about it.
The same gutless stupidity that embraced the false choice of whether Iraq had WMD will be whipsawed into a hysterical fear-induced frenzy about a nuclear Iran .I hope Iran gets its nuke because no one ever has nor ever will attack a nuclear enemy .Pakistan ? Please, give me a break .As long as that gaggle of corrupt autocrats gets its bribe money,we can drone whatever we please in that region .
The point is, that there is no military equilibrium. Since Nixon the policies have been reversed and we now ensure that Israel maintains vast superiority. Since this has happened no ground has been gained on the peace process at all, on any fron, and signing Oslo cost Rubin his life.
@Jim is too close to the situation to have any objectivity.
Just a reminder. It was the Carter Doctrine that the U.S. would protect U.S. oil, inconveniently located in ME though it is, with U.S. military.
I recall (or am mistaken about the speaker) James Schelsinger’s explaining a feature of the Carter Doctrine as preventing the USSR from gaining a warm-water port via Iran. (The USSR had more oil, steel, coal, copper, & plus than any other nation or ‘economy’ but no viable means of trading and distributing those.)
Russia getting a warm water port, to my knowledge (rudimentary though it is) is an excuse going back to the Great Game. (UK v. Russia in 1840s, ‘played’ disastrously for UK in Afghanistan.)
Having typed that, I have almost finished reading book about Great Game and nowhere does it mention Russian desire for warm water port. It’s all about buffer zones, a hilarious concept that requires empires to get endlessly bigger to protect what they already own.
So I’ll have to rethink where & when the warm water port shibboleth bc a talking point.
I think it is absolutely related and is a conscious slap to Bibi and his war mongering.
It also would not have surprised me one bit if Israel would have launched a unilateral attack against Iran while those maneuvers were taking place.
Kissinger sent police-state forces abroad; they are returning to him and his “homeland” like a magnet.
Once again google is my friend. Here’s a giggle producing list of links, going back to Peter the Grape, that alleges that as a motivator.
Bill Maher is not a liberal nor is his show a “liberal program”. Maher is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
We could go on like this for hours, but they still reach the feet.
Along with the neoliberal economic policy of Friedman’s disaster capitalism.
Agreed, but he pretends to play one on TV and it apparently fools the sheeple.
There’s more evidence linking some Israeli individuals to Sept. 11th, 2001 attacks on WTC and Pentagon as False Flag attack than there is linking some Muslim guys w/ boxcutters to 9/11.
There a real history of Israel pulling these false flag attacks, too. Remember the USS Liberty incident?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
The left needs wake up at look at all the scientific evidence showing that US Government version of 9/11 is complete nonsense. The left is going to be fighting w/ one hand behind it’s back as long as it does.
Like right wing Israel supporters in the US did in the 60-70′s to get Israel nuclear weapons and fissionable materials?
There’s a scene from an art film made about the Taliban during their reign of terror in Afghanistan. I can’t remember the title, but I prolly saw it around 2002. One of the most haunting scenes was West dropping leg & foot protheses from aircraft to refugee camps, each one on its own little parachute.
In retrospect, movie was part of U.S. propaganda. But it was extremely well executed.
How does Bill Maher, the world’s most famous pot smoker, keep from being pulled by some young LAPD narcotics officer looking for a career making bust?
Ohh… I’m certain Bill Maher has NOT managed to keep from being pulled by one of world’s most corrupt police forces. Pleeeeeeeeeeze! The city that gave birth to “Film Noir.”?
I’m willing to bet that Bill Maher got his nuts squeezed extra hard by LAPD narcs a day or two before Bill Maher chasesd truthers out of his audience and all over the studio.
We are good at propaganda. How many remember that the Taliban objected to the evangelical missionaries proselytizing, against the law, in Afghanistan prior to the US invasion, or that the Taliban refused to knuckle under to the US Oiligarchs at their meeting in Houston? Very few, I’m sure.
My fave is U.S. equating Taliban with AQ. Got away with it to this day.
Bill Maher hahaha. On a Real Time show around 2006 or 2007, the panel included Andrew Sullivan, Martina Navratilova, and General Wesley Clark (Retired), who was a very serious POTUS contender in 2004, and strongly endorsed by Michael Moore (another Very Important Leader). So, Maher seriously suggests Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger as a POTUS. Martina or Clark point out that he’s not US born, and is ineligible according to the US Constitution. And Maher goes, “It’s an amendment”, and Clark says “Amendments are part of the Constitution”, and Maher goes, “But it’s just an amendment”. God help us, orphans and atheists, and protect us from illiterate schmucks like Maher and Clark.
I once called MM a useful fool on FDL. It was early in the Occupy days, when he attended a FDL webinar. Had to hide under my computer stand to avoid the brickbats being thrown at me.
BTW, I didn’t type that while he was online, but a couple of days later after I’d listened to a few of the snippits.
:) He is a fool/tool. He’s got a good heart but is incorrigible, like Cenk Uyger. At one time he kept touting Israeli security when the TSA xray rapiscan machines were put in place. He said they didn’t need them, and they didn’t have a problem with guns in their society, so I tweeted him every time an IDF officer killed a palestinian who gave him a cockeyed look. (at least the deaths weren’t israeli). He finally acknowledged and quit putting forward Israel as some awesome model we should follow.
Glad you confronted him. He needs it, and is somewhat responsive.
Not only, but also @74, they oughta rename a former republic Ubetshekan…
I didn’t confront him (see 87).
I stand by both parts of my statement. I liked his movies a lot, esp the one about U.S. medical ind. He communicated to people without a knowledge of the issue very well. But he is a fool in the sense that, as your example illustrates, he often just doesn’t get it. And his personal appearance makes him a completely unacceptable media spokesman for many on the right, who dismiss him just bc of the way he looks.
It’s amazing how often you can trot out the same old shibboleths (peak oil’s my fave) on a regular basis to explain today and today alone. History began today, dontcha know.
My, this thread has been going since around 10 AM my time. It is now 5:15.
It’s where the smart & good looking hang out. *g*
N Iran with a nuke will never be a threat to the planet, less they use one to block the Hormuz Straits . . . so, yer posits at large are somewhat disingenuous and well, silly as all fuck shit stick.
Just WHERE do you get your fool hardy Rovian bad scriptings?
Now there’s a trustworthy source of information.
Oh DAYUM them facts!!
Wait, the new IAEA is different from the one El Bharzadi fronted, it’s bought and paid for fully by USA and Israel!
So they are out now, as any useful source of truths . . ;-)
No, no one can confirm, altho any decent proggy would hope this is so.
Please see eCahn’s comment about the kabuki and fact we will NEVER know due to all the psyops and misinformation and secrecy behind all the kabuki screens and scenes.
Yeah baby, spot effing on eC . . .
*G*
Yep, the kabuki runs deep . . .
Always believe an expat. Chalabi comes immediately to mind.
Yeah, and my sister’s unkle’s couzin 3rd removed step son’s sister sez the EXACT same thing.
Please, yer extracting shit from algae . . . which is barely possible, scientifically, altho they both smell the same at some point if left unattended.
Yer killin me.
Simple is as simple does, spot on NonP.
Not a chance, the west, USA and Israel will lose too much.
See Russians, Chinese, Pakistani’s, n Muslims thruout the world, the Straits Of Hormuz and a hunderd other reasons this drum beat for war is pure orchestrated jive.
Likely to fuel oil production and inflate prices amongst the populous, which is idiocy, but the 1% don’t seem to care anymore, profits at all cost because they think they CAN control and suppress the raging hordes of the masses.
N this of course, is the same effing mistake all empires have made thru out history . . .
Not to mention mama nature might interfere with the plans of the 1% as they over extend themselves . . . ;-)
*G*
Not only that, conspiracy theories and Israel bashing have been held in reasonable bounds. That in itself says a lot about this thread.
I also found Book Salon to be a waste of time. Ratigan, as expected, is a know nothing bloviator. (He actually admitted same without provocation, in detailing his background as being just another cnbc talking head until he saw the collapse with his own eyes in 2008. To which I responded: Now there’s the A to a Q I wouldn’t have asked.) Surprised Black was willing to host. And BevW castigated me for my (very) slightly offT response to another commenter and (very) slight snark for the author. So just kept this window open (and Caturday) to comment while I was listening to other stuff.
Heh, see The Maine, earlier . . . Gulf Of Tonkin Incident later.
See 911, more recent . . .
N every foreign or domestic ops (Kennedy, King, Kennedy) too.
See history.
;-)
Ratigan, Kuch, Sanders, Maddow, Olberman, and all to so called proggy warriors are all fakes, and serve and profit at the leisure of the 1%.
You know it, I know it, but SO many other so called proggies fail to note it, or believe it, while professing for Ron Paul or Rocky Anderson or any other means of something, anything, that provides a means to crack The Veal Pen and cash in on the booty.
;-)
Bless yas . . .
Heh, no shit. . . . but they are to the 1% . . . fully.
I tend to call that corporate fascism in this millineum . . . ;-)
Snark or not, good observations you two . .
*G*
But not your uncle? Hmm.
Lotta boot licking going on at Book Salon, to be sure. Gah.
On edit: And to his credit, Ratigan was loving every minute. Some authors have treated commenters like 99ers, beneath contempt.
Damn but if you can’t be a myth buster of long held faux perceptions.
*G*
Can’t stay, gotta git to some must see TV sci fi . .
But I sure appreciate your input here are FDL and MyFDL, wish they’d make you a regular front pager.
You cut to the truth, always, IMHO.
N if it’s all about a POV, well, mine is often like yers.
*G*
But I’ve been like this since I was 15 . . . calling shit for professed truths . . . on the other hand, I never worked for Wall Street. You got a lot goin for yer POV, me, just an upbringing in SE Asia, loberal parents, and a lot of progressive influences from SF Bay Area in my times, from 10 yrs on . . . ;-)
Gimme an F!
Yeah, but yer still killiin me . . .
We’ll part company on SciFi.
Be well, Larue.
This thread ain’t nuthin’ but shit.
It was fine before you appeared.
Fine if you like Stormfront; otherwise, not so much.