I agree with Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley that Mitt Romney’s time as governor deserves as much scrutiny as his Bain Capital days. And on that score, Democrats are telling a story about Massachusetts’ woeful job creation record – 47th out of the 50 states – in Romney’s one term.
But Romney is running on his business acumen and business experience, so that shouldn’t exactly stay out of the conversation. And I do think that Romney’s personal record does merit consideration when that record intersects with public policy. That’s very salient when it comes to his effective tax rate.
Romney addressed this today, and made an explicit defense of the 15% capital gains tax rate, from which he benefits significantly and which can be blamed for the stunning rise in inequality in America.
ROMNEY: I also think that the Speaker’s plan to eliminate the capital gains tax for high-income individuals–capital gains, interest, and dividends–would not only be a very expensive decision in terms of having to fill an even larger budget, but would provide people with very high income the possibility of no tax at all. You’d have individuals — the Warren Buffet argument — Warren Buffett, Bill Gates would probably pay no taxes at all. And today they probably pay 15 percent. Very high-income people in this country probably pay 15 percent taxes if their resources are coming from investments. And under their plan it would go to zero.
I just don’t think that’s the right course. With our precious dollars, we should focus on providing relief, tax relief, in two areas: one is for middle-income Americans, who have been hurt the most, and the other is to bring our corporate rates to a level where we could draw people from other countries to bring their funds back in this country.
QUESTION: What’s the effective rate you’ve been paying?
ROMNEY: What’s the effective rate I’ve been paying? It’s probably closer to the 15 percent rate than anything, because my last 10 years, I’ve, my income comes overwhelmingly from investments made in the past, rather than ordinary income, or rather than earned annual income. I get a little bit of income from my book but I gave that all away. And then I get speakers’ fees from time to time but not very much.
Romney is actually expressing the populist position here, relative to the rest of the Republican field, most of whom want to eliminate the capital gains tax. But he’s also telling you how he benefits from that historically low rate, which allows him to keep more of his money earned off investment income, over twice as much as a percentage than a working stiff earning a salary. Romney would tell you that those low rates enticed him to invest, and those investments aided the economy. But he also tells you those investments are years and years old. It’s not clear there’s anything dynamic going on here. It’s just a rich man sitting on his cash and shielding the income from the federal government, where it could get put to productive use. And that drives inequality upward, because it starves funding for redistributive policies.
Romney would also tell you that a low capital gains rate makes sense, because the federal government wastes money, and people should be allowed to keep it. This is undermined by his light populism on eliminating the capital gains tax, which he admits has a purpose and a function. Furthermore, the greatest period of prosperity in American history came in a period of high tax rates and compression of inequality, where productivity gains and economic growth were broadly shared. Nothing distorts that more than a low, low capital gains tax rate.
And Romney knows this can be put to use against him in the general election, because he won’t release those tax returns until he fudges the 2011 tax year to increase his effective tax rate. But moreover, he’s telling you by his actions, not his words, that he believes the rich should have a specially privileged tax rate on the way they earn their money.



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$370,000 for speaking appearances in the 2011-2011 filing period is ‘not very much’???? In my last job @$21/hour it would have taken me over nine years to earn that ‘not very much’. Arrogant bastard.
Is it possible for a candidate to concede the election 9 months early? Because that’s where this is heading. He’s the absolute wrong nominee for this economy.
Within a few weeks, when the nomination is settled for all intents and purposes, the attention will turn back to Obama. He’s kidding himself if he thinks he’s going to escape the record of disappointment to his supporters and an inadequate health reform.
The big question I would ask him is this; if the House stays GOP and the GOP gains more seats in the Senate (the Senate gains are highly likely, the House, who knows), are we going to see another 2 years of him proposing things he knows won’t get passed? Is he going to govern, or continue to run against a do nothing Congress?
I though Romney was probably un-stopppable. But, you;re right. He is not winning any points with the 99% with remarks like that.
Before he starts “firing again”, he’d better take his gun out the holster or else he’s gonna shoot off a toe.
I read somewhere, but can’t recall, that Romney’s capital gains rate comes from his pension from the private equity firm. That income is called carried interest, I think, and is taxed at 15%. There are lots of fund managers who get that tax rate. It is even more insisidious than capital gains on, say the sale of a stock, which applies only to that stock. The carried interest loophole needs to be closed.
I would expect that he will make his ordinary income higher so that it is above the 15% rate. It is good eyewash to be seen like everyone else. Buffett has said his secretary pays a higher rate than he does.
I still think he has the advantage but if he gets in trouble on the lower tax rate thing, it could just go away.
I’m sure Mitts can just propose that we’ll all get 15% tax rates and everything will be fixed when the magic pony poops out fairies.
Obama will counter by proposing extending the Bush tax cuts for another 2 years and forcing poor people to buy healthcare they cannot afford, oh, wait, he already did that…
Shorter title: “Romney An Argument For Higher Capital Gains Taxes”
Frankly, the best argument for taxing capital gains at a higher rate is that it is unearned income. There is no rational, moral justification for taxing earned income (money you worked for) at a higher rate than unearned income (money you got without working).
And I maintain that when Romney gets his nomination, we can kiss any serious discussion of health care buhbye in the general election season. We’ll have Mitt Romney’s health care plan (Obama) versus Mitt Romney.
Arguably if we are all value-driven and want to put hard work on a pedestal then unearned income should be taxed much higher, otherwise we accept that the only people who get money they didn’t earn who get demonized are poor people getting assistance, whereas rich people who get money they don’t earn are just fine.
Sounds like you need to find a better job
I certainly hope that the Romney candadacy will make “ordinary Americans” aware of the unfairness of higher tax rates on “ordinary income” than the rate charged on money that makes money with little or no effort.
They should hire you to do that.
Wow. Romneycare, which is essentially Obamacare versus Obamacare.
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I have this vision of a dog chasing his tail. Anybody esle????
Well now, you guys have that “technically” wrong. It’s that we tax “capital gains” lower, not earned income higher. And, if I recall the logic, it’s to stimulate investment and reward people who “risk” capital in orde to build the country.
The fact that filthy rich bastards, and filthier richer bastards like Romney and the 1%’ers pay less in taxes is just incidental.
I actually have some income that is taxed at the lower rate myseslf. Last year, $896.00.
$40K/year as a senior electronics tech w/35 years of experience is/was good money here in TX for 2008. How much does your ‘better job’ pay? (FWIW the tech market where I live is dead these days, there’s no jobs for older techs anymore so I’m a member of the 99 weeks+ club…)
An argument can be made, but most taxpayers have an effective rate less than 15%. The “listed” rate mig be higher, but not the effective rate.
When I was making 50 or 60k a year, my effective rate after deductions was maybe 10%. It wasn’t until I got over 100k that it got near 15%.
Of course, I think we all, including so called millionaires, ought to pay 0% and have corporate tax pay the bill.
We paid an effective rate of 13.4% on a gross of $110K but that’s only because we had two years of RE taxes making us able to itemize. Had we been required to use the standard deduction we would have paid over 15%. And remember, these folks like Mitt who get taxed at the 15% rate get, at a minimum, the same deductions as us. Buffet here sez his EFR for last year was 11%. Wonder what Mitt’s was…
BackEast has a pretty strange attitude for FDL–of all places to have that prick point of view toward people making less money than oneself! Maybe my sense of irony is deficient today.
Oops! Forgot to add in FICA! w/FICA our 2010 ETR was 19% of our total income or 24.7% of our adj. gross. And Mittens doesn’t pay FICA on capital gains…