I’ve seen a spate of stories recently suggesting that a economic recovery is fated to happen by 2013, and whoever wins the Presidential election will be able to claim the mantle of the “recovery President.” This is far too deterministic a take for me. There is such a thing as a business cycle, but to suggest that national policy cannot dislodge it ignores history. Even recent history.
In 2009 it looked as if the next Prime Minister of Britain would be able to take credit for a recovery. Then David Cameron installed an austerity regime and the economy stalled. So there’s no question that the actions of the federal government can and will have an impact on any economic recovery, especially at a time when demand remains slack and monetary policy is at the zero bound, and with a Federal Reserve Board of Governors unwilling to risk inflation even slightly above the target level.
I’m assured by some wags that Obama would not install Cameron-like austerity, and Romney would usher in a tax-side stimulus that, while, clunky, would increase GDP. This ignores the other side of his policy prescriptions, the cap on federal spending, which Jonathan Cohn takes a look at.
Start with some budget math. Romney . . . has vowed that, by 2016, he would cap federal spending at 20 percent of gross domestic product while maintaining defense spending at 4 percent of GDP. That means he would limit all non-defense spending to 16 percent of GDP.
The latest Congressional Budget Office projection suggests that GDP in 2016 will be $19.1 trillion. Sixteen percent of that is about $3.1 trillion. But, based on CBO figures, non-defense spending will be about $3.6 trillion in 2016. So to meet his goals, Romney would have to cut non-defense federal spending in 2016 by roughly $500 billion.
Romney doesn’t deny this. On the contrary, he’s been refreshingly honest on this subject. In the Washington D.C., speech where he laid out his budget vision, he said “we’ll need to find almost $500 billion in savings a year in 2016.” But Romney has not given many details on what that would entail. (Nor did his campaign respond to questions about this from TNR.) Perhaps that’s because the impact of these cuts would scare the bejeezus out of some people.
That works out to a 14.1% reduction in spending within 3 years, and if Social Security and Medicare get exempted, 25%. This cannot get entirely backloaded or washed away with a gimmick. And most important, those cuts would be put on top of the already contractionary federal fiscal policy set to start in Fiscal Year 2013. As Cohn points out, the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities estimates that non-defense discretionary programs will be cut by 17 percent of the current baseline by 2021. Romney wants to add another 14-25% cut to this.
The cuts we will already experience in FY 2013 will reduce GDP by as much as 1.5% according to a recent analysis from Goldman Sachs. So any tax cuts would have to make up for all of this. Only it can’t, because Romney would also pursue a balanced budget, meaning that the tax cuts will have to get offset somewhere else. And all of this budget-related stuff can get done through reconciliation – it’s what reconciliation was designed to accomplish – so if Romney has a Republican Congress (and if he wins, presumably it will be a good night for the GOP), he won’t have much problem getting his budget vision through.
So no, I don’t think that there’s an automatic recovery waiting for the next Presidential term, and that the next President need only bask in the glory of falling unemployment rates. Lots of decisions between now and then will set the course ahead.




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It appears that Young Ezra, among others, didn’t learn any lessons from “Turbo Tax” Timmy’s premature NYT op-ed.
The next president merely has to redefine failure as success. That’s what Republicans excel at, so expect that to be the strategy if Romney wins. And probably Obama, too.
In this economic climate I don’t think anyone knows what’s going to happen but IMO a recovery is 2013 is laughable. I don’t think we are even close to the bottom of that hole we have been digging and, if we are lucky, the recovery will begin in about 5 years.
In 1932 how long were the experts giving us to recover; but for WWII, we were in for a long haul. This is the same only worse because of the total domination of the facts by the PTB. Revised numbers are the norm and revisionist history is accepted by the corporate media so recovery from this economic disaster will be slow and painful. That’s what I see with my lying eyes despite the BS flying over D.C.
Sadly, this was all very predictable back in 2009. Obama had to go on the attack back then and paint the Republicans that caused this mess into a corner so that he was electable in 2012 despite the fact that the economy still SUCKED.
Instead we may very well get Republicans elected that demand austerity for all but the super duper rich and PLUNGE this country off the edge into a full blown Depression instead of the long slow destruction of the Middle Class and the outright killing of the lower class we are now engaged in.
And you know what, when Obama asks for MY SUPPORT, he’d better damn well fire Timmy and declare war on those Wall St frauds and crooks that caused this mess, because until I see trials and crooks in jail, Obama can go fuck himself.
I agree about the recovery not being deterministic. I think there are business cycles, but I think what politicians do plays a very large part in them…business cycles are driven by greed and panic, not some abstraction. Politicians love greed/bubbles as long as they’re in office, so they encourage that, but then when these bubbles burst, it creates panic.
Here’s another take. The thugs are also hypocrites, so they would have no problem making a few changes, like, for instance, increasing defense spending while reducing taxes and maybe start a war or increase our presence and create a deficit. And they would likely not be so worried about the debt limit then. Never believe Romney will do all he says he will. But of course they may find it necessary to cut SSMM to help the deficit “crisis” while they fight the terrorists over there so they don’t have to do it here. Then, we can hire lots of kids and make them all assistant janitors in public buildings, instant job guarantee and help for the economy. And then the thugs will be the party that got the economy out of the ditch O drove it into. Not sure what they will do on ACA. Maybe let it be since it helps business. Do I need to go on?
So, are all these “cuts” you’re worried about actual cuts, or reductions in the rate of increase?
I’m going to differ here. I think the economy is on a new upward trend. From what I see, from what my customers see and from what they hear from their customers, I sense that we will see a good rise in the economy this year.
That favors Obama, who I don’t favor, so I wouldn’t say it if I didn’t see it that way. I believe there will some “recovery” to talk about by this summer.
The question will be where did it come from? Since nothing has really happened over the last year, where did it come from?
Well, there is a huge deficit. So if imports go down that money is going to go in people’s pockets for domestic demand. It’s possible, same for next year to mske the next pres the recovery president. I also nearly forgot about corporate cash, there is trillions being held there. A good deal is off shore but a thug pres will let them bring it home tax free. Zero might even do it this year. So, yes, the economy could be getting ready to move up.
You know now that you said that I am wondering why we have not heard more about it. Maybe O and his people see it coming and are just laying low. Where are all the brilliant economists?
Hope is all we got cause there ain’t any change coming. We blew our wad on killing and it killed this country just like it killed Rome but we have the most Magnificent Mindless “Merican Murder Machine the world has ever seen.
Guns OR butter not guns gets butter.
I tend to agree, and that chart from CR* tells a big part of the story. We’re deep in the hole, but we are slowly climbing out of it. Unless this austerity nonsense or some unforeseen shock triggers a double dip, we should see a slow but steady recovery in employment. That’s likely to get Obama re-elected, since it will result in people feeling better about the economy and its direction in November (a boon to incumbents) than they do today.
* The chart is attached to this story on Google Reader, but I can’t see it here. Anyone know why?
I think “brillilant economists” is an oxymoron.
Whereas I don’t see things getting better. I think they ARE less worser.
They are talking a bit about it, but it isn’t visible enough yet to tout it. What I am seeing is based on a different mental state. Last year, it was “let’s see what’s happening,” among business people. The year before it was, “Let’s sit and do nothing until we know what is going on.”
Now, it is more, “Let’s move forward.”
You never have a recovery until that mental outlook is in place. It was not there before the last few months.
That is why it was silly for people to say, “Oh, they’ve got a trillion in cash and they’re not doing anything with it.” Kind of like saying, “Well, that guy in the gun fight against 5 others has a gun, why isn’t he using it?” Uh, because if he sticks his head out it will get shot off.
Nobody had any interest in getting their head shot off, so they sit and wait to see what’s happening and if it is safe to stick their head out.
Now, they think it is safe. Whether that is due to anything Obama did, or to the fact that he’s decided to do nothing so he can run against a do nothing Congress and people feel the water is now safe to go in, will be for the voters to decide.
Yep. In my opinion given our corrupt oligarchy rule, I don’t see things getting appreciably better for the 99% until a third party candidate has some national influence or is elected President. Our current duopoly is not legitimate. That’s reflected in the polls.
Exactly right.
That makes no sense to me at all. Obama didn’t have to go on the attack over the deficit. Obama was out front driving on the deficit even before he was inaugurated. Obama’s actions served to make the deficit an issue when it wasn’t an issue and certainly not the major issue early in his term. The major issues then as now were jobs/unemployment, the economy in general, war, corrupt banksters and a government that is in the de facto service of corporations and the 0.1 percent that is the oligarchy. That was the map. That is the map. Obama saw the map…and then drove his presidency and us straight into the ditch.
The problem is that with this rate of “climb”, it will be a decade before we get back to baseline. And the thing that looms like the sword of Damocles over our collective heads is the cost of energy. The second the global economy begins expanding in any significant way, the demand for oil will again pick up and as oil is being produced at near capacity, that means 150-200 dollar/bbl oil is a distinct possibility if not in fact a near certainty. That kind of spike in energy costs drives us right back into the ditch.
Three chapters from Chris Martenson’s Crash Course are essential reading (viewing) for getting a full picture of just how much our economy was built on and is dependent upon cheap energy:
Chapter 17a – Peak Oil
Chapter 17b – Energy Budgeting
Chapter 17c – Energy and the Economy