Democratic House lawmakers in Indiana walked out again to protest a right-to-work bill, after there were signs of a deal on a vote this week. Republicans in the House approved $1,000-a-day fines for the lawmakers. Understand that in Indiana, legislators only make about $23,000 a year.
The Republicans approved the fines in a voice vote Wednesday morning as most of the Democratic representatives gathered in the Statehouse Rotunda for what they called an open caucus meeting to discuss the bill to ban union contracts with mandatory representation fees.
The Democrats began their meeting surrounded by hundreds of union supporters, with more watching from the balconies above.
Democrats want a public vote on the right-to-work legislation, which would allow workers to reap the benefits of union membership without having to pay union dues. They want a referendum on the November ballot, which Republicans oppose. On this point, Democrats have the public on their side, according to a new poll showing that a majority would like a public vote:
Fifty-three percent of all voters want their legislator to vote for a public referendum so voters can make the decision, another 14 percent want their legislator to oppose it outright, and a mere 26 percent hope their legislator will vote to pass the bill. Solid majorities of independents (60 percent) and Democrats (61 percent) want their legislator to refer the issue to voters. Surprisingly, only a 42 percent minority of Republican voters want their legislator to pass “right to work,” while 47 percent want their representative either to put the issue to a public vote (42 percent) or oppose it outright (5 percent).
One problem is that the Legislative Services Agency declared that the Democratic version of the referendum legislation violated the Indiana Constitution. So Democrats wanted more time to draft a Constitutionally appropriate proposal. Republicans wanted to start work on the bill today, so they agreed to impose the fines when Democrats continued their delay, by staying out of the House chamber to deny Republicans a quorum.
Before this week, the deal put in place looked like it would secure passage of the legislation. Now that’s up in the air, with Democrats holding the political high ground and Republicans trying to fine lawmakers into compliance.
But I’m not sure this will work out for the Democrats. There is no provision in the state Constitution to deal with Constitutional amendments through a referendum. Republican House Speaker Brian Bosma said he would have allowed a vote on the referendum anyway, suggesting he has the votes to stop it, and to pass right-to-work through normal means. And Democrats have basically agreed to allow a vote at some point. So the argument is basically over the details, and while the protests in Indianapolis have been inspiring, I don’t see a means for them to succeed, failing total war.





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Total War seems to be what the GOP wants nationally. As we have found up here in Wisconsin, threats mean nothing. Engage in the battle or be run over.
Engage Now!
I wonder if FDL could do a fundraiser to help repay these legislators for what they’re losing?
Maybe the labor unions who like to talk so much can join in?
Surely there must be a way to do this without running afoul of state bribery laws, restrictions on outside payments to lawmakers, etc. Maybe as “consulting fees”, or “speaking fees” for speaking out against the bill? That should work.
Are these fines legal why not try a court challenge to the fines. Its one thing not to show up to work because your sick and not get paid but Congress’s job is to do what the people want if Dem voters don’t want this passed then not going to work to stop a vote is in fact going to work.
The fines don’t have to be paid, Bauer is saying, as it is against the law to be taken out of paychecks, the house would have to go to court to actually get the Democrats to pay, where it is likely to fail anyway.
The GOP has a bunch of unpopular governors Indiana, Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, Florida and unlike the GOP presidential candidates who talk these guys are doing stuff that affects people in the real world. Stuff the majority of voters do not seem to like.
Obama has no record to run on besides surrender but the GOP Presidential Candidates are linked to very unpopular ideas. Ohio, Michigan, Florida and Indiana are all members of the top ten biggest electoral college state club. The GOP cannot win if they lose those 4 states.
Republican politicians don’t give a crap what We, The People want, only to punish anyone that isn’t a multi-millionaire.
Thanks good news lets hope the Dems don’t surrender this time I am sick of well they tried every time the Dems surrender.
“but Congress’s job is to do what the people want”
The Democrats are the ones trying to do what the People want. It’s the Republicans that are trying every trick they can think of to screw the People and those that represent the People, and not unaccountable multinational corporations whose goal is enslavement of everyone that actually works for a living.
I guess that some folks don’t understand how legislative bodies work. They all have their own sets of rules.
Lots of these rules are procedural.
So when a group walks, such as the Democrats in this case, they are using the procedural rules to typically prevent a quorum from happening. That prevents voting from happening.
Procedurally, this is no different than when McConnell gets up on the Senate floor and threatens a filibuster and demands a cloture vote.
Robert’s Rules of Order would help a lot of people, such as Rush Limbaugh, to understand how legislative bodies work.
Dave, I really take exception to this description- “Democrats want a public vote on the right-to-work legislation, which would allow workers to reap the benefits of union membership without having to pay union dues.”
Total war? It’s about damn time. I’m in.
describes the bill not what the democratic lawmakers. They want an up or down vote on in the Statehouse-Yes on the record.
Without fanfare these democratic lawmakers are acting intelligently and proudly for the common good of Indiana.
All Americans should express gratitude for the responsible state lawmakers in each right-wing besieged state who are holding the line.