Before Congress even passed its two-month stopgap payroll tax/UI legislation, the State Department had a warning. The bill included a mandate that the Administration give an up-or-down approval or rejection on a permit for the Keystone XL pipeline within 60 days. The State Department said flatly that this would force them to reject the permit, because it would not give them enough time to complete their environmental review. Indeed, TransCanada and the state of Nebraska had explored the possibility of a new route for the pipeline, and that review would take up to six months. So Congress was asking the State Department to approve a pipeline without a defined route.
So today, the State Department will follow through on that promise, according to various reports.
The controversial Keystone Pipeline will reportedly be denied by President Obama, according to Fox News.
The State Department is expected to vote against the pipeline this afternoon. Transcanada will however be allowed to reapply with an alternate route going through Nebraska.
Two things here. First all this means is that the State Department is doing exactly what it said it would do. Second, as you can see, TransCanada would be able to reapply. But they would have to start the review process from scratch, and the review could take years. It’s possible that TransCanada would then scrap the project, and seek a pipeline from the tar sands that went through British Columbia and out to shipping routes in Asia rather than through the United States and into the Gulf of Mexico. But local Canadian activists have so far stopped progress on that front.
This announcement would come days before a planned protest of the pipeline in Washington by 350.org. Maybe they’ll turn that into more of a celebration.
I agree that as long as there’s money to be made from taking hydrocarbons out of the ground, the forces who want a pipeline will seek to deliver their product in some fashion. But the environmental community very smartly organized against the pipeline, putting it on the national radar screen, and so far they’re getting results.
One final note: if anyone doubted that Republicans had no interest in actually getting the pipeline built, and just wanted an issue to carry to November to prove that President Obama was “costing the country good energy jobs,” this should dispel them. They craved the issue far more than the pipeline, which they probably feel they can get down the road.
Update: Statement from Bill McKibben:
350.org founder and Keystone XL protest leader, Bill McKibben, had the following reaction the news that the State Department is expected to reject the permit for the Keystone XL pipeline later this afternoon:
“Assuming that what we’re hearing is true, this isn’t just the right call, it’s the brave call. The knock on Barack Obama from many quarters has been that he’s too conciliatory. But here, in the face of a naked political threat from Big Oil to exact ‘huge political consequences,’ he’s stood up strong. This is a victory for Americans who testified in record numbers, and who demanded that science get the hearing usually reserved for big money.
We’re well aware that the fossil fuel lobby won’t give up easily. They have control of Congress. But as the year goes on, we’ll try to break some of that hammerlock, both so that environmental review can go forward, and so that we can stop wasting taxpayer money on subsidies and handouts to the industry. The action starts mid-day Tuesday on Capitol Hill, when 500 referees will blow the whistle on Big Oil’s attempts to corrupt the Congress.”




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Wow, I can’t remember last time that happened when not screwing the American people.
I can’t help but suspect that there’s a backdoor somewhere that will open when our attention is elsewhere.
I think Obama wants him some pipeline money. And he wants to approve this. This is the worst of all worlds for him: He doesn’t get the pipeline, he doesn’t get the credit for stopping it, and the GOPers have an issue to flog.
Boxturtle (i’m sure there’s smoke coming from that Back Room)
In a non-election year
All the excuses they’ve given for the need of that pipeline is nefarious. Take the refinery in the Gulf so that it can be shipped to China.
The actual tar sands this stuff is being extruded from is closer to China than the Gulf Coast. Can they not set up their own refinery in Canada? Oh, I know that is just too much to ask and makes sense to regular people, but CEO’s that have no interest in saving money or the planet.
I really need people to get aware of the amount of oil that the US exports to other countries:
http://www.indexmundi.com/united_states/oil_exports.html
I think they were hoping our activists would be less successful than their activists.
Boxturtle (They also didn’t expect that Hatred of Obama would overcome money in Congress)
no matter how cynical you are,
this is a huge win for Mr. McKibben, and everyone who he worked with.
remarkable.
Now, we will see if Canada can respond and block the horrendous Canadian route through the beautiful province of British Columbia ending at the B.C. rainforest coast
That route will be hard to sell in British Columbia, just south of the exxon valdes spill.
All it means is that Obama has made some secret deal.
O can do the same thing he did for Excelon. Give them $9 billion incentive (for environmental studies?)which will disappear long before anyone asks for an accounting.
On edit: It is much more profitable to take taxpayer money & not doing any work than it is to build a pipeline.
I’ll believe it when I see it and when I’ve read the details of the deal. Obama says a lot of things.
The thing is that the damn sludge is so expensive to extract and refine, worse even than the Orinoco fields of Venezuela (those at least don’t have to be heated before you pull out their sludge), that it can really only be shipped profitably via supertankers — and guess what? British Columbia has no ports capable of handling supertankers.
That’s another reason why it’s either Houston or bust for the tar sands developers.
Oh Shit! You just described Congress.
HUSH! Obama has flunkies reading this blog. Don’t give ‘em any ideas!
Boxturtle (How much of that $9B dod you think Obama would get back in donations?)
“Which they probably feel they can get, down the road.”
You can bet the ranch on that feeling, which is almost certainly correct. Signing off on that just now could start a little progressive firestorm, and, the republican candidate grotesquery notwithstanding, Obama’s chances at a second term are looking rather…combustible…besides it wouldn’t square with his pivoting into the “courageous reforming incumbent” mode.
Phewww! One down, a hundred other problems left to go! The First Nations and BC activists will stop the Enbridge Gateway pipeline to Kitimat (which was slated to rebuilt to handle supertankers.) If Keystone is actually refused it will be a great victory against ExxonMobil, TransCanada, and the rest of the treacherous petrochemical lot.
Anyone ever hear of Hanford? That’s next on my list. I’ll try and post an article about it soon….
Are you sure they are reading?
Okay, I guess they aren’t sending out the memos.
To reduce our carbon footprint, we need higher gas prices to encourage conservation. But as soon as prices reach a certain level, a lot of marginal production becomes profitable. If oil was $60bbl, we wouldn’t be talking about tar sands.
Boxturtle (welcome to Pick Your Poison!)
Yes, I can see their lips moving.
Boxturtle (Don’t forget to tip your server!)
IIRC, O got in the neighborhood of a $million from Excelon. May have been more like $700,000, but in any event, Excelon made off like bandits to collect $9 billion for a nuke plant they will never build.
Which reminds me of the article I read last week about electric cars coming to the sales lots in 2012.
Who can afford to buy one?
Bear in mind that this is the most expensive petrocarbon to extract and refine — between $30 and $40 a barrel, which is why they have to ship it via pipeline and why they couldn’t even think about starting this project until the selling price of oil stayed above the $90 mark for more than a brief visit. It has to be heated just to get it out of the ground. Then it has to be mixed with other stuff and the pipeline has to be heated for the sludge to “flow”. All of this means that it has to go somewhere where there are a) high-tech super-duper refineries and b) supertanker facilities, because unless and until oil hits $150 a barrel supertankers are really the only way to send it over the ocean and still make a profit.
That’s why they need to send it to Houston: There are no BC ports capable of handling supertankers, even should the First Nations folk totally lose their minds and allow the oil companies to build routes to the coast.
Joined at the hip with corps.
Getting taxpayer money to do nothing might be the solution to the global economics problem of oversupply. You know, like ag subsidies not to plant.
The problem is that higher gas prices hit the poor and under-employed so hard.
There you go again!
I hadn’t thought about the Ag Subsidies. Thankye, thankye. I just know that it has been almost 11 years the country is in crisis and they sit up there trying name post offices they want to close down.
If you had a sensible economics policy, you could offset the higher oil prices for the poor with general grants. That would accomplish both the conservation of energy via higher prices and compensate the poor.
A gal can dream, can’t she?
Keeping OIL over $95 is also mission critical for Tar Sands. That won’t be too hard for this monopoly. And elitist Obama Democrats will like gas prices high as well.
Sometimes it pays to be an aging economist. When not getting mocked or scolded for the ‘profession’s’ abysmal record, that is.
A sensible economics policy? The Rs and Ds don’t do sensible. It’s so interesting that the Rs have no plans for anything. Just babbling away and haven’t a clue.
Very true. If we had a decent social safty net, you could adjust payments with the price of gas in mind.
Since we DON’T, and I’m evil, I suggest we raise the tax on mid-octane and high-octane gas and use it to reduce the cost of low octane.
Boxturtle (How’s that Lexus SUV working out for you now, fat cat?)
All the more reason for Keystone not to produce.
BTW, as obvious as it is that higher prices and less production is profit maximizing for a product with low sensitivity to price, I must be ever grateful to Palast for rubbing my nose in this application.
There will be a book-tv presentation this coming weekend on how in the 1920s the Brits redlined the Iraq Sunni triangle specifically to keep its allegedly abundant oil (second to Ghawar supposedly)off the market to maintain prices. Also read that in Palast. Will find the link and post it. The redline still exists.
Yeah, I’ve been scolded for not being able to decide what I wanted to do with myself in my 20′s and 30′s. Now, I have enough education in many different fields to be DANGEROUS to the status quo!
Here’s the link. It doesn’t sound exactly like what Palast wrote, but we’ll see.
Oy forgot the link http://www.booktv.org/Program/12823/British+Petroleum+and+the+Redline+Agreement+The+Wests+Secret+Pact+to+Get+Mideast+Oil.aspx
Yes, and the post here that gives the coverage and history on Iran from Tom Dispatch is a MUST READ! Also, following is the redline/black balling post from Escobar on his findings.
Before the down-turn in the economy happened, it seemed that one out of every two cars on the road here was an SUV – with one person in it. Now they have almost disappeared and the county I live in is very wealthy – pity I’m not. Most people could have easily afforded the gas. It’s been interesting to watch – businesses are closing and restaurants are not busy. Gonna get worse, I think.
Thank the teabaggers.
If anyone deserves credit for this, it’s House Republicans. Had they allowed the process to proceed as planned, it most assuredly, would have been approved.
This only means that he won’t issue a permit before Feb 21.
It does NOT mean that he won’t approve it —– after the election…
From the LA Times:
He can’t afford to lose the support of Darryl Hannah and countless others who are actively and vehemently opposed to this pipeline.
and here we go – Obama TV ads go on-air tomorrow -probably to tout the Keystone denial
The company line is at $95-100 it is profitable to extract tarsands otherwise they (the big oil co.’s) would just leave it alone.
Not exactly…
Twain,
It used to be the same here. SUV’s, big truck, Duelies or whatever they are on the old farms are now replaced with vehicles that are impossible to determine. Not one day goes by that a clunker goes down the road that has a different color part all over it.
They still cannot clean the river in Kalamazoo because this stuff goes right to the bottom and mixes with the sediment. So if it should spill, bye-bye aquafir/drinking water…http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Energy-Resources/2012/01/17/NTSB-delays-Michigan-oil-spill-report/UPI-74811326805759/
Keystone can do partial extraction, holding a lot of production offline to make sure price stays high.
There was a big oil spill in Mexico in a major river back in November. MSM won’t touch that news and they are not having much luck in cleaning it up.
When you ask a pol to do something and the pol does it, the thing to do is to thank them. It is not to trash them
So, thank you President Obama.
So, Obama just single-handedly nixed a lot of jobs and friendly oil.
Best Xmas present ever.
Thank you.
You should be thanking the GOP for forcing a reluctant Obama to do the right thing, in that case.
Boxturtle (If it were up to Obama, the pipeline would be approved as soon as it doesn’t hurt re-election)
1. O hasn’t done anything yet. He hasn’t even said he’d do anything.
2. O usually does the opposite to what he says.
3. We don’t know what his hidden agenda is.
It would be premature for thank yous.
Oil isn’t friendly if you’re drinking it. They simply can’t guarantee that there won’t be leaks, or worse. Citizens have the right to KNOW that their gov’t is protecting them and we don’t have any at this time – and maybe never again.
Well, it seems that Bill McKibben agrees with me.
1) few if any American jobs are being created by the pipeline and almost NONE of them are long term.
2) The oil was destined to be shipped to China. They’re piping it across the US because no Canadian port can handle the VLCC’s that transport the oil.
Boxturtle (only feeding troll to make sure lurkers aren’t misinformed)
I’m glad Obama did this but I don’t trust him not to okay the pipeline later. Seems to me the door is wide open to do that.
McK is taking the opportunity for a victory round, being a public figure. We are not bound by his example.
If someone really wants to give O credit, they can find a line of reasoning to get them there. But O has gone to a lot of trouble to keep his hands clean. It’s the State dept, not the WH making the decision, for example.
Boxturtle (he can’t have it both ways)
Nuclear facility in Washington State that crews are having a hell of a time with.
You are really stttrrrreeetchhhhhhhhhhhhhiiing. Come on.
I am sure if the State Department had approved it, you would have accepted the argument it wasn’t the Whitehouse.
He did the right thing here. Accept it.
shocking I know, but count me among the skeptics
I still see this WH approving this — if not directly – like the first wednesday in November, then a side door – some obscure Interior bureau, Army Corps of Engineers, EPA, whatev — it is what they have done from the jump – there is no way they are gonna openly fuck the Extractionists
great reporting, great thread !
“Anyone ever hear of Hanford?”
Feel free to include some tasty tidbits on SRP while you’re at it.
The right thing was done. Obama permitted/caused it to happen. Stipulated.
Was this what Obama wanted? They were ready to approve the pipeline last fall, until the noise got to be too much. Then they DIDN’T shut it down, but instead defered the decision. Obama might still have approved it, if it weren’t for the route change.
I hope that this does represent a change of heart for Obama. But I won’t give him full credit until I see if he sticks with the decision AFTER the election.
Boxturtle (I Don’t trust Obama. You can tell him I said so)
Don’t be so quick to give Obama credit.
The critical quote is here in this AP story from today:
Obama’s jobs council yesterday called for an “all-in” approach, urging an expansion of oil and gas drilling and an acceleration of projects including pipelines.
So, it’s not a principled victory for the environment. It’s just an attempt to salvage some good fundraising money from people concerned with the environment. The message is clear: Obama will not stand on the principle of defending the environment.
Thanks to BoxTurtle, I am not misinformed. Also, I am no longer lurking. :-)
If you take no risks, you get no rewards.
Yes there’s a risk of leakage. The question is whether the reward of thousands of jobs and less dependence on the ME is a good thing. Most people are going to say it is.
You can’t live your life cowering in a corner.
Oh, so we’re in such good shape we can be picky about the jobs being offered? I don’t think so.
Here’s another for the Outrage List.
From an LAT article: It’s unclear whether the administration will reject the pipeline project outright or will revert to the longer time line that it announced in November, which calls for a final decision to be made in early 2013, the people familiar with the decision said.
Reports on Obama’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness look mighty friendly to Republicans:
LAT: Headlined, “Recommendations From Obama Jobs Council Have A Conservative Tilt,” reports that the council is “recommending a series of job-creating proposals with a distinct Republican flavor.”
USA Today: “Obama Jobs Council Pushes Ideas Backed By Republicans” — says jobs’ panel “proposed cutting the corporate tax rate, boosting domestic energy production and reducing government regulations that hinder business.”
Reuters reports that Boehner said, “President Obama’s own panel of experts has endorsed the approach to job creation House Republicans have been pursuing for more than a year.”
++++++
…tell me again why we’re supposed to believe Obama will ever do the right thing?
Hillary will be especially disappointed. Wasn’t her former campaign manager pimping for TransCanada’s XL Pipeline of Death?
My vote is for “bust”. It’s past time for these despoilers of the Earth to be denied their profits at our expense. I’m sure Obama has a behind the scenes deal to placate his masters. He’ll probably approve it on a Friday afternoon when no one’s paying attention.
There are no R’s and D’s. They’re all C’s, as in Corporatists.
Most of the jobs (which are highly over-estimated) will be minimum wage, manual labor and are ALL temprary.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2011/12/14/143719155/just-how-many-jobs-would-the-keystone-pipeline-create
http://www.tarsandsaction.org/spread-the-word/key-facts-keystone-xl/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/keystone-pipeline-debate-heats-up/2011/11/04/gIQA824rpM_story.html
Or it could cause a decline in jobs-
http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/13/news/economy/keystone_pipeline_jobs/index.htm
Three out of four nations that we import oil from are not in the ME.
You can’t live your life in ignorance and make educated comments.
eCahn, have you published? I’m sure I’d enjoy reading something written by someone as informed and insightful as your comments indicate you to be.
I missed the notice the oil was to be shipped to China.
Educate me please…
What makes you think the oil will be coming on the US market and not the world market?
I have little doubt the Tar Sands Pipeline will be approved after November 2012. (Whether the TSP ever becomes operational is a different question.) Nothing that happened today changes that. All Obama did was postpone the decision until after the election, which is what he was trying to do when the GOP forced the expedited review provision. As another commenter said, huge kudos to Bill McKibben et al (including those from this blog) who flummoxed Obama, even if only temporarily.
I have read (sorry, can’t look up today to tell you where I read it…) that the oil barges to Asia can’t be big enuf for the Tar Sands people to make enuf MORE $$ — something to do with shallower waters, underwater geology, etc. — whereas the Gulf has no such problem.
All we need, huh, more oil in the Gulf.
Thanks President Obama. Still wondering why it was even a cosideration for a foreign oil company to transport oil across 1700 miles of our land? Very disappointing that Canada thought Americans were more stupid than them when it comes to the environment. No matter where the pipe with the dirty oil goes–China prolly gets it. Fine. Lets put up 1700 miles of solar panels. They already can do solar at the South Pole with fine film. Different films can be used over the 1700 miles. Gov’t needs to put money into large battery storage of solar that could be put onto regional power grids or loops. Texas doesn’t care since Texas already has its own individual electrical power grid or loop–independent of the big grid for the rest of the nation. Texas seems to want it all–refineries ect. Seems they really want it all so, one day soon, they will be set up to be their own nation once again.
OBAMA: This announcement is not a judgment on the merits of the pipeline, but the arbitrary nature of a deadline that prevented the State Department from gathering the information necessary to approve the project and protect the American people. …. In the months ahead, we will continue to look for new ways to partner with the oil and gas industry to increase our energy security –including the potential development of an oil pipeline from Cushing, Oklahoma to the Gulf of Mexico – even as we set higher efficiency standards for cars and trucks and invest in alternatives like biofuels and natural gas. And we will do so in a way that benefits American workers and businesses without risking the health and safety of the American people and the environment…..blah blah blah.
You guys are f ing stoopid. Just vote for Ron Paul dip sh ts. SMH