The sad chapter of the Haditha massacre may have been put to bed in a legal sense when Marine Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich received an incomparably light sentence, walking away with no jail time, for ordering the troops under his command to “shoot first, ask questions later” in an incident that killed 24 innocent Iraqis. But this issue isn’t close to being over for the Iraqis in the village of Haditha who heard the news.
In this town which saw 24 unarmed civilians die in a U.S. raid seven years ago, residents expressed disbelief and sadness that the Marine sergeant who told his troops to “shoot first, ask questions later” reached a deal with prosecutors to avoid jail time.
They were outraged both at the American military justice system and at the refusal of Iraq’s Shiite-led government to condemn the killings and at least try to bring those responsible to face trial in this country.
“We are deeply disappointed by this unfair deal,” said Khalid Salman Rasif, an Anbar provincial council member from Haditha. “The U.S. soldier will receive a punishment that is suitable for a traffic violation.”
Shocked at the unfair US judicial system? Take a number. But this reaction could lead to serious trouble in Iraq. Haditha is a Sunni town. The Shiite ruling government has said little about the issue, saying instead that it needs to be “studied carefully.” But the government is coming under increasing criticism from Sunnis for taking no action to avert the ruling. Without the US troops in Iraq to blame, you could see Sunnis take out their frustrations in a sectarian manner. CNN reports that the public is squarely opposed to the sentence, which risks a credibility gap for the government:
“This court is unjust and its decision was unfair for Iraqi people,” Shaeed Fakhri, a lecturer at Babel University in Hilla, said Wednesday as he visited Baghdad. “This soldier should be executed. The verdict is unfair and unjust for the innocent people who were killed in this incident.”
“This is very sad and very painful,” said Hashim Khader, a store owner in Baghdad. “They were just civilian people who did not raise weapons against the occupiers and they were killed this way. This is a heinous crime and the soldiers should get the most severe punishment.”
The case contained multiple legal errors on the part of investigators; in part, they flubbed the case. But the Iraqis aren’t interested in such an excuse. This becomes fuel for more hatred, and the government is putting themselves on the wrong side. Sunni lawmakers have spoken out on this, and we could see violence before it’s all done.




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And in other atrocity news, the Secretary General of the Syrian Arab Red Crescent Society (SARC) was shot dead while traveling in a car clearly marked with protective Red Crescent emblems while returning to Idlib from a meeting in Damascus.
Both the ICRC and the SARC are protesting and demanding an investigation.
http://www.icrc.org/eng/resources/documents/news-release/2012/syria-news-2011-01-25.htm
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/01/2012125104441775248.html
Compare and contrast: Frank Wuterich and Bradley Manning
Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do.
Which side did that? Israel or the U.S.
WTF kinda puppet is Malaki anyhow. Geez is U.S. so incompetent that it can’t even find supportive puppets anymore.
Dday, FDL alum Jim White wrote an excellent vivisection of Oily Bomber’s SOTU’s Foreign Policy segment… “More Respected Around the World”? Really?
*heh* An Iranian Puppet of course, M’dear…! Why would ya ask..? ;-)
They Hate Us For Our Freedom™ to Plead Guilty to Dereliction of Duty.
We’ve squandered our honor, integrity, dignity and humanity for what ?
koff (*bullshit*), koff…
Big Oil…! What else…? 8-(
Assuming facts not in evidence, namely that U.S. had
And yet, child soldier Omar Khadr can be charged with “murder in violation of the law of war,” for allegedly throwing a grenade at U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan. After spending eight years at GTMO.
Dontcha know Khadr’s parents, Canadians, are Canadian haters. Sins of the father… /s
Although I haven’t followed it, I’ve heard about the inadvertent drone killings. Has the USG ever confirmed any of them (I’m thinking the USG or MSM has) and if so, has the USG ever given a reason for the deaths?
It seems to me the two most likely explanations would be computer error or operator error. If it’s a computer error, does the DOD even pretend to demand corrections be implemented by Tony Stark? And if it’s an operator error, does the DOD even pretend to investigate an operator?
Or does Obama just completely ignore all of it by telling Jay Carney to be charming??
But we could have after the Vietnam quagmire , done the right thing that is.
If this is the massacre where the ten people in one family,from 75yo to 5 months old, were cuffed and shot through their heads this lowers the bar to the ground basically .
This up close
killingslaughter and torturing is something new, I thought.Haditha had nothing to do with drones.
My Lai.
I know. Wutherich was from the Meriden, CT. I’m from Cheshire, CT. The two towns are adjacent and I have family who live in Meriden. I know the story a bit. My question was just a bit tangential. The concept of accountability within the military is a sad — but necessary — one.
Anyone happen to know if the DOD has ever done any sort of mea culpa and investigated drone deaths?
Frankly, I don’t even want to think about it. But I think it’s important that drone killings are investigated. My concern is that this White House and the current occupant seem to have no interest in anything besides accruing more power to the executive.
Right. Everything’s a joke. The good people in SARC are mostly volunteers. They mostly signed up for a fairly peaceful job doing routine ambulance service in their communities, but they’ve instead been driving into the middle of violent confrontations and working around the clock. They’ve been getting shot at since July-August.
Part of the problem is the number of moving parts involved in Syria, further complicated by what took place in Lybia. Israel would surely like to see instability that weakens or removes Assad, perhaps the US goverment as well. Skepticism of everyone’s motives, and sources of armaments, are only natural.
And once both sides start shooting, no one looks like they are a cause worth supporting.
That said, targeting RC is despicable.
Goggle colin powell my lai if you want to find out how military investigates itself.
No joke.
Syria is mostly about outside agitators.
On edit: USS Liberty.
Syria is mostly about outside agitators.
A sad fact that has been lost in most of the dialogue, eCAHN…! 8-(
I don’t know much about what is going on in Syria, nor do the reporters who I have found to be the most accurate over the years. Still, what I find more convincing than anything else, is that without massive outside intervention (think NATO bombing of Libya, not to mention ground troops) Libya would still be under Gaddafi and civilians killed fewer that way.
NATO is preoccupied with Libya (civil war & all that) so can’t do a similar massive assault on Syria, more’s the pity for Israel. (Crying a river over that.)
No fan of Assad, but he is Syrians’ biz and no one else’s.
Well, the Russkies and our Nato Ally, Turkey, do see eye to eye on Iran and Syria…!
Under the presidency of Barak Obama, it is much better to have committed a war crime than to have reported one.
Right on the money. I remember that when I used to work at a newspaper in Las Vegas, black-on-black homicide was known around the newsroom as a North-Side Misdemeanor. It’s the same attitude.
This is why I love to hang out at FDL — all the articulate people.
Nobody knows who killed the SARC SG yet. So that’s not something to speculate on.
The Syrian government does have about 35,000 prisoners without charge. The ICRC walked out on them because they wouldn’t allow neutral inspections. And there have been very large demonstrations. And there have been defections of soldiers and confirmed reports of government snipers. From there, construct something. Refugees at the Turkish border report killings by the government. There has been other violence. SARC has been working nearly full time. ICRC delivered body bags to SARC by the hundreds in December. Prove the violence is all from outside agitators. I think you’re bullshitting.
Compare the crime Sgt. Frank Wuterich has been convicted of to the crimes Pvt Bradley Manning has allegedly committed.
Manning didn’t murder anyone, yet he rots in prison.
To paraphrase Frank Zappa, ‘I’m gladI’m not Iranian (or you fill in the nationality) but there’s a whole lot of times I wished I could say I’m not American.’
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/marine-facing-up-to-3-months-in-brig-for-iraqi-deaths-at-haditha/2012/01/24/gIQALNppMQ_story.html?hpid=z3
“The sentencing of Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich ends a six-year prosecution for the 2005 attack that failed to win any manslaughter convictions. Eight Marines were initially charged. One was acquitted, and six others had their cases dropped.
Wuterich admitted he ordered is squad to “shoot first, ask questions later” after a roadside bomb killed a fellow Marine as part of a deal that ended his manslaughter trial with a guilty plea Monday to a single count of negligent dereliction of duty.”
“The military judge, Lt. Col. David Jones, initially recommended the maximum sentence of three months for Wuterich, saying, “It’s difficult for the court to fathom negligent dereliction of duty worse than the facts in this case.”
But after opening an envelope to look at the terms of the plea agreement, as is procedure in military court, Jones announced the deal prevented any jail time for the Marine.”
“Jones did recommend that the sergeant’s rank be reduced to private, which would dock his pay, but he decided not to exercise his option to cut it by as much as two-thirds because the divorced father has sole custody of his three daughters. The rank reduction has to be approved by a Marine general who already signed off on the plea deal.”
24 innocent, unarmed civilians murdered.