I got a lot of response to my post on the new federal financial fraud unit (not to be confused with the old financial fraud unit) looking into mortgage origination and securitization abuses. I criticized New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman for walking into a bear trap, as co-chair of a panel where three of the five committee members have a history of ignoring accountability for bank crimes on the old financial fraud task force. And I feared that this may collapse opposition to the 50-state settlement, which would absolve banks from liability on an as-yet unknown series of issues in exchange for a pittance sum for homeowners, a sum which they may never even see.
First, let’s talk about the settlement. The good news here is that the Justice Democrats aren’t jumping off the boat just yet. Delaware’s Beau Biden reaffirmed his stance against the settlement because he wanted to pursue his own investigations. And California’s Kamala Harris reiterated her stance last night:
Calif. Atty. Gen. Kamala D. Harris’ office has called a proposed $25-billion settlement with the nation’s mortgage industry “inadequate.”
“We’ve reviewed the details of the latest settlement proposal from the banks, and we believe it is inadequate for California,” Shum Preston, a spokesman for Harris, said in a statement. “Our state has been clear about what any multistate settlement must contain: transparency, relief going to the most distressed homeowners and meaningful enforcement that ensures accountability. At this point, this deal does not suffice for California.”
Many analysts consider California’s participation to be key to a strong deal. Harris walked away from talks with the banks last year, saying not enough was being offered by the financial institutions for California homeowners.
Just as important, statements from Democratic pols and activist progressives removed the flush of “victory” and maintained their opposition to the settlement. California House Dems keep pressuring for something more than the settlement offers. The civil rights group Color of Change had a very strong statement that displayed the appropriate skepticism.
While we applaud President Obama for siding with homeowners, taxpayers, and the millions of Americans impacted by the housing crisis, true accountability and real relief depends on the strength and integrity of the investigation and the ongoing support of the White House. We understand the impact the housing crisis has had on Black people and communities of color, and our hope is that this decision will mean that Wall Street banks are no longer allowed to operate above the law. We are resolve in our efforts and will continue to fight for the millions of people around the country who have suffered and continue to endure this housing crisis.
Americans across the country have demonstrated a groundswell of public outrage, and will not be satisfied with an incomplete, corrupt investigation or a weak settlement. There’s clear consensus that the banks should not be allowed to return to business as usual. Going forward, any deal with the big banks must ensure that there will be a full investigation into their disastrous practices and must have a guaranteed minimum amount of money set aside for reducing the mortgage principal of ‘underwater’ homeowners impacted by the foreclosure crisis–any future settlement must make the banks pay the true costs associated with their actions.
Similarly, Progressives United, Russ Feingold’s group, was skeptical.
But the most important information is this: Schneiderman, according to sources, still has space to object to the settlement while agreeing to join the financial fraud panel. In negotiations, HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan and the Administration tried to link the two, but Schneiderman would not comply. And he still opposes the settlement in its current form. “The language we’ve seen would release claims we are not prepared to release,” one source said.
Schneiderman may look at a settlement if the release is incredibly narrow, more narrow than it is right now, and it doesn’t hinder the investigations being done at the state and federal level (the release has narrowed since the initial offer in August). There’s also the question of enforcement, and whether the settlement will have an actual independent monitor, with real fines for violations. You can see by Schneiderman’s words yesterday that he is making a distinction between pre-crisis conduct and post-crisis conduct, and he simply feels the banks have more exposure on the pre-crisis conduct, which would be the focus of the state/federal probe.
“We’re undertaking a more coordinated effort to pull together all of the various strands of investigations relating to the conduct that created the mortgage-backed securities bubble and led to the market crash,” Schneiderman told reporters in Washington after an event at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau [...]
He said the new unit, part of the existing federal Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force, would go after “every aspect of the conduct that created the bubble and crash,” including the origination of mortgages and the packaging of them into securities [...]
Schneiderman said Wednesday that the new unit’s efforts shouldn’t affect the foreclosure settlement talks because those investigations deal with conduct that took place after the housing market collapsed.
“The multi-state talks all relate to post-crash conduct. These are abuses in the foreclosure process,” he said. “Our working group is focusing on the conduct related to the pooling and creation of mortgage-backed securities…the conduct that created the crash, not the abuses that happened after the fact.”
I always thought the point of focusing on robo-signing was that the banks, through depositions and court documents, were dead to rights on those issues (not to mention that they were more recent, and so statutes of limitations didn’t come into play), and that they could be leveraged into a comprehensive deal that gives homeowners what they need, with sufficient penalties on the banks. What Schneiderman seems to be saying here is that, no, it’s the pre-crisis stuff on securitization where the banks REALLY have the exposure, and going after them on that will create the desperation moment where the banks agree to whatever terms are necessary for homeowners.
I’m not sure I totally believe that, and I think giving up the more recent fraud – which is ongoing – is very risky. So is going into the lion’s den and partnering with the likes of Tony West and Robert Khuzami and Lanny Breuer, when their conduct as regulators and investigators speaks for itself.
Here’s what my sources say about that aspect of things. The panel was attached to the existing financial fraud task force because it didn’t require a new executive order. It gives the New York AG new resources that he can take to his state to pursue claims under the Martin Act. In other words, if things are found out by the investigation, and it fits better under New York statutes rather than the federal ones, Schneiderman has that flexibility. If the state statutes on mortgage origination, for example, have run out, the federal origination statutes can be employed. In a best-case scenario, this investigation puts a lot of people on the case, and gives Schneiderman every tool to operate in that context. There may even be other AGs eventually named as part of this panel. I am also told that Schneiderman has some suits ready to release in the coming weeks.
What about a worst-case scenario, though? What if this is, as I suspect, an attempt by the Administration to ring-fence Schneiderman, to slow-walk these cases, and to bottle up any accountability in committee? Sources, who preferred to speak off the record, made this commitment: if the investigation is going in that direction, the New York AG will walk away. And not only that, he will walk away in the most showy, public manner possible, letting everyone know who was responsible for the lack of prosecutions. At that point, Schneiderman can go back and use his own resources and statutes, which while perhaps less flexible than what a state-federal partnership can do, are nonetheless potent.
So that may become a factor on the investigation panel. The White House already has felt the sting of being called out for their lack of response to the financial crisis. Perhaps (I’m not sure I believe this) they want to rehabilitate their own credibility in this area. It is an election year, and polling does indicate that the public wants a much stronger response.
Two other positives here: the press is not totally buying that this investigation will do much good. The New York Times editorial board was somewhat skeptical this morning, as was Dan Morain in the Sacramento Bee. McClatchy’s story interviewed plenty of skeptics. The White House cannot open a magic task force and expect anyone to believe they will actually put words to action anymore. They have to prove it.
The other good sign is that bankers think the task force might mess up the 50-state settlement. More to the point, I think we can infer that an announcement of an origination and securitization probe means that releases on those (which were in the document at one point) won’t be coming, making it less attractive to the banks to settle. Jamie Dimon was freaking out about this today.
“It has a pretty good chance of derailing it,” Dimon said in a televised interview with CNBC from Davos, Switzerland on Thursday [...]
“I think it would be better for America if that settlement took place,” Dimon said. “If this thing derails that, so be it.”
We all know that Dimon wants what’s best for America.
I stand behind what I wrote yesterday. I also can see some path where this task force is not harmful and, in an absolute best case, helpful in bringing accountability and justice. The key for Schneiderman is to maintain his independence. A lot of people walk into Washington thinking they can outsmart people and work on their own terms. It doesn’t always work out. The grassroots will be a powerful spur in this. They need to not spike the ball in the end zone and continue to do what they have been doing, forcing the White House into uncomfortable positions and blowing up an insufficient settlement.





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Thanks for this post. I wonder how many of the commenters from your posts yesterday will acknowledge that maybe, just maybe, Schneiderman isn’t the moron/Obama toady/sell-out they (mostly) declared him to be. Given the ossified perspective that prevails here, I’m sure that number will approach zero.
Good post, but not skeptical enough. The key frame is that it is the policy of the administration and has been since the TARP whip to protect the banking system as it exists, which includes protecting the executive compensation structure and the existing people in charge. It’s policy. Let me repeat. It’s policy.
That’s very important in terms of understanding exactly what resources Schneiderman will get and what he can do.
Man I haven’t been called ossified since I turned 50.*g*
I love that ossified opinions at FDL usually means that everyone disagrees with you.
You new here?
Two other things to consider here: 1) “Cleaning up” Bank of America’s balance sheet, which the Feds want to facilitate; and 2) The Feds’ desire to unload mortgage backed securities from their own balance sheet, which is complicated by the securities fraud issue.
Can anyone explain how the son of Senator MBNA can be serious about his investigations of the big banks which proliferate in Wilmington?
Why would he agree to join Obama in this Kabuki theater? It amazes me how many people still think Obama gives a rats ass about us. Sorry just venting.
See the tee shirt?
I’m With Ossified
Exactly. You only have to look at the competent, liberal-minded people who thought they could influence this administration from within–Barofsky, Roemer, Bernstein–who left relatively quickly when they found out the nature of the true agenda. If you don’t enter the administration as part of Obama’s inner circle, you might as well be elsewhere.
Hey Matt I am ossified too. Just kidding love your work. Being from N.Y. I am pretty sure (although I am wrong most of the time) that A.G. Eric will hang tough. Very good post
I can agree with your hope that Schneiderman will be on the people’s side and do the right thing but all evidence so far is to the contrary. Joining this commission/committee is joining the side of delay and obfuscation that this administration has been on since taking over from Bush. We (if I can speak for others at FDL) are focusing on results and so far NONE. The change we were hoping for has only been in the form of words. I hope you see how many people could be so discouraged that they have now adopted this cynical attitude when another person seems to be going over to the side of the Status Quo. I have more hopes in the integrity of Harris and Biden than anyone; including Schneiderman, on this new “old” commission.
Those of us who are now skeptical of everything Obama got our skepticism the hard way: He earned it. This latest move fits his established pattern, so we are skeptical. Now you, you by your comments, give off the smell, the stink, of a Dem loyalist. Most of those that we see turn out to be ignorant of many key facts re their tribe and their golden boy. So, are you aware that the DOJ that has failed for three years to investigate bank origination and securitization issues (the ones that cause the financial crash) is led by Holder and Breuer who were BOTH employed by the law firm that gave the legal go-ahead to the creation of MERS? YES OR NO, PLEASE. Since you have chosen to insult our intelligence thus far, it is fair to demand some transparency from you. Also relevant, since you claim to not be an Obamabot, tell us, do you now plan to vote for Obama? Yes or no, please. Because that is what you smell like.
Easy, not everyone who decides to run for office is a corrupt asshole. Also, whatever VP Biden faults, they are his own and not his son’s. Do you have any real grievances with AG Biden performance, or are you just smearing him to sound cool?
No settlements before criminal prosecutions.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen David Daten:
Our system of “justice” simply can not adequately redress the financial fraud crisis and the massive hole it has placed in our economy through civil actions and negotiated settlements either at the state or federal level. Only massive criminal fraud prosecutions and concurrent re-regulation legislation AND targeted confiscatory taxation measures can accomplish what must be accomplished…anything less is just so much bullshit and mirrors.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THERE IS NO JUSTICE IN CAPITALISM!!!
I reread my question and I don’t see how it could be interpreted as a smear. The question merely pointed out the irony of a son working in contradiction to the career-long policies of the father.
Given the Obama administrations mission to water down, delay any help for American working people trapped by the $3T Wall mortgage fraud scam, it does seem clear that locking Schneiderman into a minority position on an Obama administration panel designed to benefit banks over defrauded home owners is a trap. It seems clear the only point now is to co-opt Mr. Schneiderman, divide the good attorneys general and to help the banks get away with fraud and worse, providing no financial help to the victims.
The state and Federal lawsuits to compensate millions of homeowners for the massive mortgage fraud scam should have been done years ago. 2009 vs. “in committee” in 2012 with a “new team” that is negotiating with itself vs. making real demands on the banks.
Obama administration betrayed voters and went to work to protect the banks vs. help victims of the bank mortgage fraud. Mr. Schniederman is buying into that now no matter his good intentions. States should be filing suit, going after the banks and getting people help. The victims have been waiting long enough and are struggling financially while bank profits soar after $1T bailout.
Tell me what is this “offer” shit I see mentioned? The banks should never be allowed again to be in a position where they are allowed to make an offer.
What ghost and Norske said.
We are all ventors here.
I recommended your post too late to front page it, but it was fine work and I admire what you are doing in St. Louis.
I did recommend spocko’s fine post and it was front-paged within the hour.*g*
Jim Clausen, the secret editor.
ps. I hope the NY AG remembers what happened to Spitzer.
He’d better also not walk in front of any catapults.
Sure, if you ignore everything Schneiderman’s done for the past year as NY AG and dday’s post above, and assume the worst about Schneiderman (he’s stupid, willing to destroy his own reputation to provide cover for Obama, etc.), then “all evidence so far is to the contrary.” I, however, choose not to ignore it.
Citizen dmd76:
The “ossified perspective” expressed in large numbers of comments here hardened as a result of experiencing the reality of politics and power today. To question the intension of or motivations for any legal or political action is a sign of intelligence informed by experience. Any blind acceptance of the same is stupidity informed by desperate hope.
Hey don’t insult “Dem loyalists” by associating us with the Reagan Democrat Obama. “Dem loyalists” are people who think FDR, Truman and JFK are DEMOCRATS. Clinton and Carter get RIGHT OF CENTER DEMOCRAT status.
Obama is effusive in his praise of everything Reagan and his policies from $1.3T military spending with lots of new bases in Australia, Philippines, Oman to his cut of Social Security funding, Medicare funding and benefits and, this case, lack of Wall St regulation, all make Obama Bush III in the Reagan/BushI/BushII/Obama-BushIII pantheon that has run the US down.
Citizen ghostof911:
Your comment was NOT a smear…reality always bites blind and desparate hope in the ass, don’t take it personally.
Look back at the posts, you seem to be the only one to have used the terms stupid and moron.
Citizen SiriusA:
Wahtchu said, citizen…whatchu SAID!!!! Count me in with the real Dem loyalists…well said.
the irony of a son working in contradiction to the career-long policies of the father
It can happen. See Coumo, father and son.
Slay the Obamabot demons in your head, realitychecker. Then, maybe, you won’t embarrass yourself and your community by demanding a complete stranger pass a purity test before you deign to respond to him. My vote is my business, so fuck off.
We Firebaggers would love to be proved wrong about the corrupt influence of the Obama Administration. You know, at least once. :-(
I would guess that Schneiderman feels working the case built on the original securitization process is inherently stronger in that he would have a large group of investors behind him, rather than a large group of underwater home owners.
That tactic also takes away the inevitible ploy by the MSM of painting the lawsuits as the ‘undeserving’ trying to get something for nothing.
It may be a sad commentary on American ‘justice’, but I would think it more likely that a lawsuit originating with the investor class has more of a chance of success than one rooted in the 99%, but that is our current reality.
It would also seem that if any sort of real prosecution gets under way on the criminal fraud associated with the securitization process, the rest of the rot will be dragged out into the sunlight right along with it.
You have to keep in mind that most of the crime involving the foreclosure process is down-stream from, but directly related to the criminal securitization process, and can really be considered part of covering-up the those crimes.
DDay wrote: “The White House cannot open a magic task force and expect anyone to believe they will actually put words to action anymore. They have to prove it.”
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I agree. But, what does Obama want to do? He’s already said “the banks didn’t do anything illegal.” If you run that statement through the “politician to English” dictionary for a translation you get, “These guys are giving me tons of money in campaign contributions. I can’t prosecute them so here’s my explanation (excuse) for doing nothing.”
Citizen dmd76:
Usually around here, trolls are ignored but occasionally one sneaks in and is afforded unearned courtesy…so, go back under the bridge before the heat of logic and weight of “ossified perspective” burn off your lizard skin and pound your 3-celled mind to dust.
Hey Norske, good to see your nic around here again.
Is Walker going to be recalled, or will he end up in jail first?
Fair enough, Such is the difficulty of labels. Those that stand with Obamam are Obamabots, not real Democrats. I appreciate the difference, it’s just that I’ve grown so unaccustomed to seeing any REAL Democrats fighting for my beliefs and interests on the public stage. Can we agree that anyone who plans to VOTE for Obamam is NOT a real Democrat, then?
Citizen Watt4Bob:
Walker will be recalled but it will be a fight that will leave the people of this state bloodied and bankrupt…slash and burn capitalism has already destroyed this state.
It was front paged about 10pm CST right after you recommended it. Your magic boggles my mind. *g* Thanks for the confidence and compliments. Look for big things in the spring.
Sam Seder was blistering on this last night during the Young Turks on Current TV. First of all Schneiderman is co-chair, and why do they need this when Justice hasn’t brought anyone to trial. This is just pandering of the worst order by Obama and as someone said yesterday: Obama brings any critics on his left into the tent to be smothered and muzzled. When is the last time anybody heard a word out of Hilda Solis?
I interviewed Thomas Frank this week about his new book PIty the Billlionaire.
One of the main themes: In return for “abandoning free market principles to save the free market system” as GWB said of the needed bailouts that Obama continued, the expection was that three things would happen
1. The perpetrators would be punished
2 The victims would be compensated for their losses
3. Legilsation would be written to ensure this would never happen again
Obama gets an F on all three. MF Global showed how useless Dodd-Frank Financial Reform was.
This is all cosmetics. If Obama wants to reclaim his Progressive bonafides he should have fired Geithner in the first sentence of his speech on Tuesday.
Occupy Obama
Hence the question…Why would Schneiderman join them? Fair Question. Let’s hope but….
This onion has a lot of layers. MOrtgages to people who didn’t qualify, packaging and overvaluing them into MBS and selling and reselling them, fraudulent/phony “credit default swaps”, hedges (legal and illegal), robo-signing foreclosures and mortgage transfers, not even including thins that were JUST unethical. And almost everybody involved made tons of money at OUR expense.
Thanks Norske,
I read all his recent history before deciding to play with him a little bit.
Sometimes a little troll-bashing helps take the angst out of trying to find heroes in our political legal classes.
You are one of my heroes for all you are doing in Wisconsin to turn back the neo-feudal bastards.
Oh, Norske, thanks so much for that assurance. I may be old and ossified, but–regardless–hope springs eternal, ya know?
And it’s also your business as to whether you know how corrupt Obama’s DOJ is? We get it. Your need to maintain the privacy of your voting intention, despite the fact that you are ANONYMOUS, really tells us all we need to know about you. Obamabot. Go back to Kos, where you can fester without objection.
I’m sorry to hear you say that.
If it’s not hyperbole, please point me in the direction of an update?
I’ve been laboring under the assumption that the people of Wisconsin were doing their part to lead us back to sane government?
Completely avoided the entire question and got pissy. Yeah, you’re an Obamabot.
Hey, boy, where you been hiding? I’ve been looking for you to fine-tune the market guidance I shared with you last week. Have you done anything about it? They hit the high end of my target range today, if you got in there, you should have a stop protecting a tiny profit now.
This only works for older guys like me, but: technically, ossified means your boner’s always stiff. Just sayin’. :-P
Norske….you guys are the wind beneath our wings.
Sadly, talk is cheap… real cheap. Especially when it’s just babble from unnamed sources who need to polish this turd for the base:
Let’s hope this is true. But the fact is, we can’t know it’s true until it either happens or doesn’t. If there’s one thing pols are good at, it’s covering their rumps with language like this to put off the skeptics.
Lastly, Dimon freaks out about everything. He thinks anti-bankster remarks are evidence of “discrimination,” fer Pete’s sake. If you look at him in anything other than a deeply subservient manner, he’ll freak out at you. That’s how psychopaths typically operate.
Putting aside Schneiderman, given the corrupt nature of the rest of the actors in this psychodrama, any judgments should be based on evidence only. Unsourced, unsubstantiated claims not supported by direct evidence don’t really mean anything. Given that Schneiderman will be largely surrounded by people known to be on the take, he rather looks like windowdressing.
There really isn’t any reason to believe otherwise at this point. It’s great that you’re trying to be fair and all, but this time it simply isn’t warranted.
Statute of limitations is the big issue re those earlier criminalities.
Been sick. Flu-like for 5 days. Could not convince my wife to do anything pro-active. Most of it’s HER money.
Slept through the SOTU and the repubican bullshit afterwards. Did I miss anything???
I’m hopeful about this unit, but not too hopeful. I am a Firedog, too, but don’t do smack. Some of the bite of the comments come from being proven a fool time and again by our elected leaders who simply say whatever comes into their heads and then go about what suits their aims and pockets best. One would like to believe that a lawyer, in a justice department, who theoretically is working outside the whole lobbying system, could focus on the law and its enforcement. That would be a modest proposal, one every reader on this blog would applaud. As to lurkers and plants (sorry if this is actually and completely unfair)—this is a tough crowd. I do think they really want justice in fact and not the rhetoric of justice. No more words, just actions. Night and day, every day. Actions. AND THEY REALLY ARE SICK OF EXCUSES! My 2 cents. TMK from Oregon.
Sorry, get better soon. I wanted to tell you that I was pretty sure the Dow would go at least to the 12,820 level I had mentioned, and probably a bit beyond. Hit 12,841 this morning, 12,770 now. Feel better, my friend.
Sleeping thru the SOTU was probably the best strategy.
Thanks. I’m back at work. Tryin to wrap my brain around the fact that Mitt romney makes $10,000 an hour NOT WORKING AT ALL.
If I understand Suskind (Confidence Men)correctly, WH policy is that the scandal produced by a successful public prosecution of any of the megabanks would cause a crisis of confidence in the entire system. This has been Geithner’s winning argument from the very beginning. Obama again signaled this yet again in the SOTU by saying the whole point of this new “investigation” was to “turn the page.” Whether Geithner leaves soon or not, his view still reigns over Obama–that the entire system is too fragile to handle a real investigation and all it would bring to light.
You shoulda bought some magic underwear when it was on sale lol.(I don’t wear underwear, so I have an excuse.)
“Sources, who preferred to speak off the record, made this commitment: if the investigation is going in that direction, the New York AG will walk away. And not only that, he will walk away in the most showy, public manner possible, letting everyone know who was responsible for the lack of prosecutions
Let’s hope this is true. But the fact is, we can’t know it’s true until it either happens or doesn’t.”
If he walked away in this fashion, wouldn’t he be fired by Zero?
I agree. This is just the Administration trying to capture (in the economic sense of the word) a resistant and troublesome SAG.
Oh, I’m fairly skeptical. The key is holding the one person outside that Administration structure accountable and responsible for the promises of a serious investigation or a very loud and showy walk-away if one is stymied.
I totally agree. The difference is that Schneiderman, if and when he leaves, has a job with some power to go back to.
Obama cannot fire him from the position of the Attorney General of New York.
TMI…
Rest easy, amigo, ’twas just some joketic license lol. (I would never risk bruising my ankles.) ;-)
Wouldn’t that be Holder who could fire him?
I put Zero and Holder in the same handbasket…
Uh no. The Attorney General of New York is an elected position.
Delay, diffuse, and obfuscate.
That’s hilarious! I shouldda knowed y’all would apply the word to y’alls privates. I always thought Steely Dan was the best reference, but then that came from Burroughs, didn’t it?
Thanks DD
I thought a few years ago AG Gonzales fired a few under BushII??
Remember the conversation a ways back about taters? Well, I’ve been saving this one for you.
Those were United States Attorneys. It’s easy to get confused, when there are so many different types of law enforcers and so many different kinds of crimes going unprosecuted. :-(
Right on Brother, WE know the truth behind the machinations of Joe Biden and Son INC. Jump on the bandwagon, nurture the photo ops, get on record the talking points for your next campaign for higher office. Too little too late, fool the people all the time, and above all, prop up the banksters and line your own pocket$$$$$
For me, the litmus test of accountability is what happens to MERS. Any resolution or settlement that does not dismantle MERS is open to future fraud. Recording county deeds slows down the speculative reselling of mortgages.
Thanks faster,
Haven’t ever seen a Jimmy Dickens video, but like his sound.
Tataers, boil ‘em mash ‘em, stick ‘em in a stew…
Thanks realitychecker, I guess my mind has become ossified…
Obama didn’t say that. He’s been quoted as saying it, so it may as well be what he said. I think he said “I will never lie to you”, and I’m sure he said “I am not a crook”.
And “I promise I won’t come in your mouth.”
I coulda sworn I saw AND heard him say that.
anybody out there recall that???
Exactly, MERS is the key to it all, including those humomngous monstrousities the credit default swaps, which is why the revelation last week that Holder and Breuer worked at the law firm that legally OK’d Mers is SO key to understanding the situation.
Try this:
http://firedoglake.com/2011/10/07/president-clears-wall-street-of-crimes/
I’ll keep looking.
If this thing goes sideways, I’d seriously enjoy watching a “showy, public” display, particularly in an election year.
I called Harris’s office yesterday. After I had managed to navigate my way through the byzantine telephone system, I was finally able to reach an actual human being, to which I stated how much I wanted to see Harris hang tough on this one. He said he would convey the message.
Telephone pressure never hurts. The more, the merrier.
Here’s another:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-‘we-had-to-change-the-laws’-because-unethical-wall-st-execs-didn’t-actually-do-anything-illegal/
Absolutely. He said exactly that.
Jamie makes a good point. I think we should cut the $25 Billion down to about, say, $150.00. And don’t forget to include that “total indemnification/immunity-from-prosecution, forever and ever, amen” language.
After all, it’s good for America.
In response to all the finger-waggers who say we should be ashamed about criticizing Dem officials like Schneidermann when they appear to get cozy with OSellout: we have our reasons.
St. Ronnie Reagan once said of the USSR after a nuclear arms deal that we should “Trust, but Verify”. Since Obama has been in office, every single promise made by this lying sack of shit to the Progressive and Liberal wings of the Democratic Party has been broken. Every. Single. One. It’s a big reason why many of us no longer consider ourselves Democrats, and view every politician with a “D” around their name as suspect. I sincerely hope that Schneidermann is sincere in his efforts to hold the banks accountable and help homeowners who were hurt when this crime spree occurred. And if he does as he says, I will be the first to apologize. But quite frankly the Dems no longer get a pass when they ask us to think of them as Boy Scouts. To paraphrase Obama’s favorite President: “we no longer “Trust”, but we sure as hell are gonna “Verify”.
Here’s Schneidermann’s email.
That was US Attorneys. Different deal.
I called too.
What a maze that phone system is!
I spoke to a gal and told her about the same thing, to stay where she is and fight to investigate, charge and prosecute.
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I believe what I see, not what any politician says. I’m apparently ossified by being that way. If so, so be it.
Best to Schneiderman. No one, absolutely NO ONE, would be happier than me to be proven wrong about Schneiderman’s role and his ability to, you know, actually do something concrete to aid the “common voter,” aka the middle and working classes who’ve taken a big giant shaft from the 1%.
All I can say now is: time will tell.
Yes, Obama DID say that Wall ST didn’t do anything illegal.
I was thinking about this today when I found a newspaper from 2003 in a file drawer. One of the stories on the front page was about how Jack Grubman and Henry Blodget and 10 Wall Street firms were going to pay a $1.4B fine + “disgorgement” for basically selling stocks as winnners that they knew or should have known were crap. Grubman and Blodget were also barred for life from the securities industry. The firms had to contribute to a fund to provide free independent research and investor education. Spitzer was in the media spotlight for his work focused on Merill Lynch.
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The firms involved settled for a wee portion of their ill-gotten gains, and Ralph Nader pointed it out at the time. But the net effect is that the firms switched their criminal conduct from internet/telcom stocks to housing related program activities. 5 years later Spitzer was out of the way and the criminal enterprises continued the same pattern of behavior.
Who will be barred for life as a result of this newest fraud unit? Who will be required to “disgorge” ill-gotten profits? Who will be given relief funded by the FIRE industry?
WILL I GET TO SEE SOME MOTHREFCUKER IN CHAINS?
I can always hope.
I would think that if he walked away, it would be a real boon for him politically. In some respects, anyway. It could give him a leg up on running for Governor, for example. But the Party can also make him pay dearly for not playing ball. If he did it this year, it would hurt Obama badly. But if he waits until after the election, it wouldn’t matter so much.
Schneiderman is playing with fire here. He may get burned. That would suit the bankers and their lackeys in the Democratic Party just fine. On the other hand, Schneiderman may just be another fake progressive who is looking for a way out of the corner he’s painted himself into with the MOTU.
But in any case, this just looks like another way of kicking the can down the road until the statutes of limitation expire on as much as possible. In 2013 they can issue a report that says anything at all and it won’t matter very much.
At this point, I don’t think the appearance of corruption even matters with most people in DC. They’ve already put all this off for three years. What’s one more?
Aw shucks. As far as I know it’s original me. But I aspire…. :-P
“I don’t think the appearance of corruption even matters with most people in DC.” Corruption doesn’t seem to matter to most people in DC probably because so many are participating in it, as is documented over and over in these FDL and related articles.
Ever upward–right? Hahahahaha.
THANKS a bunch. I knew I wasn’t dreaming that.
I remember that because that was the day I decided I would not vote for him again unles he ran against Perry.
“I hope the NY AG remembers what happened to Spitzer.”
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You mean, if he screws up, they’ll replace him with a blind, black guy???
It took the DoJ 4 years to put together good cases against the 16 Enron scum who went to prison. I am still holding out hope.
But then again, I am a “glass half full” kinda guy. Scarlett Johansson and Courtney Cox are on my wife-approved “celebrity OK to have sex with” short list.
I LOVE the way all you people back me up here. SOmetimes I feel like Tom Hanks in that “Private Benjamin” movie.
I agree completely.
Good analysis.
Don’t you mean, “Saving Ryan’s Privates”?
Okay, so what was the secret of getting through the phone maze?
What is the number that gets you through to her actual office, secretary or assistant, etc?
If Schneiderman was legit he should have accepted the appointment to the panel but declined to appear at the SOTU. Obama wanted the optics, and Eric the Sellout complied.