Housing and Urban Development Secretary Shaun Donovan sought to clarify comments to reporters made over the weekend about expectations of “substantial” principal reduction payments from the foreclosure fraud settlement made out of loans owned by private-label investors in mortgage-backed securities, not the banks themselves. In fact, Donovan told FDL News, the “large majority” of principal reduction would instead come from the banks’ own books.
I and other reporters saw Donovan’s comments suggesting that investors, be they institutional bondholders or hedge funds or pension funds, would foot much of the bill for the settlement, which could draw legal challenges from investors objecting to takings of their private property (write-downs on the loans) without fair compensation. While the overall numbers of these write-downs could still reach into the billions (hence the “substantial” in dollar figure, if not percentage of the settlement), and while Dononvan does see such a strategy as a “chance to really jump-start broader principal reduction” in the MBS part of the mortgage market, Donovan expected much more principal reduction to arise from bank-owned loans, including their second liens (typically home equity lines of credit, or HELOCs).
This is an important point. One concern many had with the settlement payments coming off the MBS loans was that the first loans would get written down before the seconds, which varies from the standard practice in the industry. Yves Smith wrote about the second lien issue over the weekend.
As leading mortgage analyst Laurie Goodman pointed out in a late 2010 presentation, just over half of the private label (non Fannie/Freddie) securitizations have second liens behind them (overwhelmingly home equity lines of credit). Moreover, homes with first liens only have far lower delinquency rates than homes with both first and second liens. Separately, various studies have found that defaults are also correlated with how far underwater a borrower is. If a borrower is too far in negative equity territory, it makes less sense for them to struggle to stay current, no matter how much they love their home [...]
[Banks] also have been modifying first liens to preserve their second liens. If you reduce the payments on the first mortgage, the borrower has more money left to pay the second lien. From the transcript of Goodman’s 2010 presentation:
“Clearly there’s a differential standard of managing second liens and securitizations versus second liens in bank portfolios. It’s very clear banks are doing all they can to get the, to keep, to get the first lien modified in order to keep the second intact, and that is just a huge conflict of interest.”
Legally, the hierarchy of payment OUGHT to be clear: a second should be wiped out before a first lien is touched. That’s how it works in a foreclosure or a bankruptcy: only after the first lien was paid in full would a second lien get anything. But that isn’t what is happening now.
This would suggest that by engaging in write-downs of private-label securities, the banks would be protecting their own books by increasing the value of their second liens. This would be an important fix to bank books, as they have nearly $400 billion in second liens on them, and many observers believe most of them to be worthless. It’s why some have characterized banks writing down other people’s firsts to strengthen their own seconds as a back-door bailout.
Here’s what Secretary Donovan told me in a Sunday interview. “We expect a large majority of principal reduction to come from the bank’s own books. And we’re including a requirement that where a first lien is being written down, and any institution signing on to the settlement holds the second lien, they are required to write that second down at least pari passu (“on equal terms”), and if the second lien is delinquent over 180 days, written down entirely.” Administration sources close to the negotiations added that they believe nothing on the investor-owned loans would override the contract responsibilities of the trustees. Furthermore, officials advised that the principal write-downs on investor-owned loans are expected to come from a small number of institutions, who may or may not have deals in place with their investors to offer some manner of compensation for the write-down.
I asked Josh Rosner, the managing director at Graham-Fisher, for his insights on the second lien plan for the settlement. “If there was a real intent to treat borrowers and investors fairly, they would force the write downs of second liens when the first was defaulted or in significant negative equity, firsts are supposed to be senior,” Rosner said. He added that it’s easier to keep second liens current, because you can do so merely by making a minimum payment, unlike with a first lien, where the whole payment must be made every month to stay current. Given that, there probably aren’t a whole lot of second liens that are 180 days delinquent, which would be wiped out under this scheme. However, that “current” status makes them no less vulnerable, Rosner said. “If the first is defaulted or insignificant negative equity it is reasonable to conclude that the second will ultimately default.”
Ultimately, it’s hard to say with much confidence how high a percentage of what kind of debt write-downs we will see in the settlement, especially because nobody but Donovan and the state Attorneys General really know the terms. And while I have no reason to believe that Donovan is cooking the numbers in any way, ultimately he and anyone else are making a guess, however educated, as to what loans the banks will write down. That’s because the banks mostly have discretion, as I understand it, as far as the principal reductions are concerned. They just have to add up to a certain dollar amount in “credits.” I asked Rosner if we could say for sure what percentages of what loans the banks will write down, even with the rules on seconds in place, and he replied, “Given that the terms have not been made public, which is peculiar, we can’t.”
Indeed, while we probably know more about the details of the settlement than we ever have before, as we should expect given how imminent the announcement is, the full details remain pretty murky. Bruce Judson wrote over the weekend that the secrecy in this process is troubling:
Why are the terms of this settlement secret? Prosecutorial negotiations are normally secret in order to prevent the disclosure of evidence that might or might not be relevant to a later trial if the negotiations collapse. This concern does not apply here.
This settlement has far more of the characteristics of legislation than of prosecutorial activities. The offending banks have destroyed the wealth, livelihood, and dreams of millions of Americans. Shouldn’t the public at least have two weeks to view the proposed terms of the settlement and make their views known to their state’s attorney general? And at a time when trust in government is at historic lows, isn’t secrecy for this type of activity the wrong way to build the much-needed confidence of the American people?
Let’s get back to the basics here. We’re about to see a settlement on a range of servicing and foreclosure fraud issues that go back a decade. I think we can say at this point it will happen; New York and California have returned to the bargaining table, and I’m not usually on a first-name basis with the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development. Other AGs have their talking points in order. Things are moving.
And we’re doing this settlement, mostly, with rough sketches of what it would entail, at least for the public (and if you believe Catherine Cortez Masto’s letter, even for the law enforcement officials signing off on it). We can discuss in vague terms but not specifically enough the important issues – what is the penalty for the banks, what part of the penalty can they pass on to others, how to enforce the penalty, what the investigations at the state and federal level have revealed, how legally secure is the settlement, how adequate is the total settlement from a monetary standpoint, what future claims will be aggressively pursued to build on the financial relief in the settlement, etc. I could see a settlement meeting these tests on some of these issues. But it’s not all that easy to say by looking at rough sketches.
At the same time, the damage that resulted from the housing bubble, the crash, and the fraud that fed the system is actually quite well-known. We know about the four million foreclosures since 2007 and the millions of jobs lost as a result of the subsequent financial crisis. We know about the $700 billion in negative equity in America. We know about the damage caused by a foreclosure to overall property values; it immediately lowers the value of a neighbor’s home by $5,000-$10,000, according to Secretary Donovan. We know that the larger economy suffers from increased foreclosures and blight and local government expense for upkeep and dislocation of families and reduced property values and a decrease in construction jobs and the negative wealth effect from negative equity.
All of these things are known. So we have a good understanding of who is responsible for the crisis and how much their misdeeds have cost. That’s not a legal argument, and it’s entirely possible that this group of state and federal law enforcement officials, with the laws they have to use and the predilections they have to use them, would not have come up with that amount on these specific abuses. I think that’s hard to know. Secretary Donovan talked over the weekend about the settlement being a “down payment” for future write-downs, mainly arising from the RMBS working group going after securitization and origination abuses. “There is the opportunity to get very large-scale relief, including serious principal reduction, for families that have been victims of the crisis,” he remarked. Writers like Robert Kuttner see this as essential, that this isn’t the end of the road but the beginning.
I certainly hope so. But I’ll have to wrestle with that in a subsequent post.





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G’morning Dday. Awesome work, as usual.
Donovan is a tyro (a baby bizness man, a banker wannabe). He is in over his head.
But for our purposes, he is a weasel. He is dribbling out specific terms of the pending multi-state settlement while withholding a full draft so none of us out here (or in the progressive media) has an effing clue how his little dribbled details fit into the whole deal.
I honestly believe that the whole first lien/second lien issue is a red herring, despite the intense expertise Yves Smith brings to that analysis. I feel the same way about the alleged “pillaging of pension funds” to pay for the losses, which Yves has ranted about for days.
The reason? For any collateral (homes) for which mortgage notes were not properly transferred (robosigned assignments, robosigned notarizations, robosigned lost-note affidavits, unrecorded assignments), none of the RMBS securities have any value, and none of the second liens have any value. As a matter of law. Because none of the securities and none of the liens had any collateral backing them up when they were originally created. So the banks which issued those crap RMBS and took those crap 2d liens are liable as a matter of law to eat all of those losses.
None of the investors are “on the hook” for those losses because none of those securities were lawful securities at the time they were sold. All of those securities can be put back by the “investors.” The seller banks are liable for putbacks on all of those securities. As a matter of law.
No multi-state settlement can violate the legal rights of non-settling parties. Period. It’s not necessary to invoke a 5th amendment “taking” argument when so many other grounds exist to invalidate the settlement. In fact, no federal court would be sustained on appeal if it stretched to involve constitutional claims which are unnecessary to a full remedy for the investors.
All of the above refers to RMBS and second liens on collateral (homes) for which the notes were processed by MERS, which are all un-transferred as a matter of law, for the reasons asserted in the NY AG lawsuit filed Friday.
You could drive a fully loaded Brinks truck through those weasel words.
At this point, the only way to assess this deal is “Distrust, but verify.”
As always, David, thank you for your great reporting.
Like you said.
And like your expert, Rosner, said:
The deal just sucks. This is easy. We need to blow up this gott damm deal.
You owe me a donut for “weasel.”
I thought the standard currency here for such transactions was a drink of your choice.
Yeah but I had to stop drinking alcohol, so drinks don’t do it for me. I needs my pastries.
“This deal just sucks. This is easy. We need to blow up this gott damn deal.”
Precisely, Fractal.
DW
It’s gonna be a long day. NYT has this at top of home page claiming that California AG Kamala Harris is back at the bargaining table.
From Times piece:
Everyone knows it has already been proven that “mortgages were improperly packaged into securities that later soured.” That was my point in my first comment this morning. California will never accept a deal that limits its ability to recover for those frauds.
Just kill this putrid deal.
I think the first lien/second lien issue is important on economic terms. The banks are holding hundreds of billions in worthless crap on their books to create the appearance of solvency.
I think you’re right in terms of the putback issue, but for the most part, investors haven’t gone nuclear on this. You see scattered lawsuits, but not a real push. And by and large they’re making a misrepresentations and warranties argument, not a “securitization fail” argument, in those suits. Maybe this settlement will trigger it.
Perhaps, DDay, we should refer to the “settlement” as it is now “constructed”, as much as we are permitted to know about it, as a “fraudulent settlement”?
As it seems to be more of the “same”, simply piled higher and deeper …
DW
Two key facts at the end of Times piece that are new (to me), presented separately:
Do we want Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perrelli of the U.S. Dept. of Justice deciding what will be done with that “40 percent” penalty paid “directly to the federal government?” Or worse, Timmeh Geithner? This is ridiculous. Assume that the default outcome is, the banks fail to meet their “benchmarks.” Because the banks are criminal enterprises doing this deal solely to avoid insolvency & break-up under Dodd-Frank. Then the only monetary result is, a “40 percent penalty” paid to the U.S. Treasury? Really? With no term yet disclosed to explain, “40 percent of what?”
Then we have this:
Unbelievable insult. The White House can’t negotiate its way out of a wet paper bag. Idiots.
Totally correct about first & second liens. In fact, IIRC from my bar exam cram course on state law of commercial paper (holders in due course, etc.), many states require as a matter of law that seconds be extinguished based on the facts we already know about the first mortgages. The seconds just have no legal status, but are being preserved as a key part of “extend & pretend,” as Yves has always reminded us.
On the RMBS, I think the defects arising from use of MERS and the failures of assignments are part & parcel of claims against the “representations & warranties,” because the reps. & warranties included warranties of adequate & lawful collateral. But either way, we agree so far that putbacks are inevitable but Yves seems to disregard that when she wants to rant about “pension plans” being pillaged and Wall Street going nuclear.
“Securitization fail” is a great soundbite for REMIC trusts vaporizing due to use of MERS. There are a whole raft of tax evasion liabilities arising from the non-existence of the REMIC trusts caused by the non-transfer of the collateral into the trusts caused by the use of MERS. Again, Yves taught us this two years ago.
Yes. Foreclosure fraud is being “cured” by this White House using settlement fraud. Schneiderman needs to save his reputation and get the fuck out of this deal. Same for Martha Coakley, Beau Biden, Lisa Madigan, Kamala Harris, Catherine Cortez Masto (AGs, respectively, of MA, DE, IL, CA & NV), and all the other Justice Democrats.
It just hit me, should we and PCCC beg & plead with Elizabeth Warren to speak to Martha Coakley and give a joint press conference denouncing this fraudulent settlement?
Another tidbit from the NYT piece linked in Dday’s main post, in mine @8 and here.
But, but, but …. [sputter] today is the big deadline!
(My apologies for missing that Dday already linked to the NYT article in the middle of his long main post.)
Frankly, Fractal, I very seriously doubt that Elizabeth Warren would agree with our perspective regarding this “settlement” … she seems, increasingly, at least to me, to be a “go along, get along gal … I, very sincerely, hope that I am completely wrong in this assessment.
I do, however, think, that Warren SHOULD be “encouraged” to share her views with us, now, before she becomes a member of the “in” crowd.
DW
This is some of Dday’s finest work:
Krugman’s take last night in NYT on current jobs numbers:
Deadline … schmedline.
I say, Cinderella, doth the clock not say, “twelve o’clock, midnight”?
Soon enough, Fractal, everyone who “matters” will be “on board” … on the new and improved “Titanic”, guaranteed not to sink the too big … so long as they may stand upon the heads and backs of many …
This “deal” will be done … then, if “the people” have the backbone and fortitude, it shall have to be undone …
“Short-term” – long-term …where will the “balance” point be “found”?
DW
Pulitzer Prize material, Fractal, so far as I am concerned.
DW
One of the three anonymous sources in this Bloomberg piece from last night:
Notice anything?
Also from this item posted on Bloomberg last night:
omg …. what are they smoking?
Looking forward, not backward, with extreme prejudice.
Sadly, for civil society and the Rule of Law … but devastatingly true, allan.
DW
This still does NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING but make the appearance that the banks are being held accountable for something.
It is not a settlement. A settlement satisfies all parties involved and makes them whole again.
Donovan, You Lie!
This is no way correcting the losses for American homeowners, buyers, local chain of title on real property and assets, nor does it even attempt to compensate the loss of economic activity for the country.
http://www.citizensforethics.org/blog/entry/pork-parade-former-members-eat-from-both-sides-of-the-trough
Another reason banks will not be held responsible:
Heh. I was just going to type: If Donovan sez it, does that make it so.
OT (and maybe covered a lot already), but why has firedoglake.com switched to have one story on its front page when I type it into MS IE Explorer? I liked being able to scroll through all the previous 10 or so posts.
I get the latest story and then nothing else but an ad.
and any institution signing on to the settlement holds the second lien, they are required to write that second down at least pari passu (“on equal terms”), and if the second lien is delinquent over 180 days, written down entirely…
Great piece David. The above point by Secretary Donovan is just cartoonishly stupid. Does he get his legal knowledge from watching soap operas?
A second lien is NEVER on equal terms to a first lien, that’s why its called a second lien.
Is it just me or is Obama conspicuously MIA on this issue????
Oh, I’m sorry, he’s delegated AG Holder to be the one member of hte administration “officially uninvolved and disengaged”.
My bad.
Would be interesting to see how long it takes the Senate to grease that nomination through confirmation.
But on your earlier notion @25, what you said about a settlement is not what most of us are asking for here:
The usual cliche’ about a settlement is that the only way you know it is fair is that nobody is fully satisfied.
Also, most of us are not demanding or expecting that this multistate deal “makes … whole” every homeowner who was defrauded by foreclosure fraud. Instead, we are denouncing the proposed multistate settlement because it gives away the store to the banks, it doesn’t give any meaningful relief to homeowners and constitutes just another bailout for these thuggish, intolerable banks.
That is why it is so outrageous that the deal, as described by Bloomberg sources, would require several states to abandon well-investigated lawsuits they already filed against some of these same defendants, for fractions of a penny on the dollar of total plausible damages. (Odd that Bloomberg’s sources fail to explain why the brand new lawsuit filed by NY’s AG on Friday would not have to be dismissed, even though it was filed against three of the same five banks the White House is trying to bail out.)
Krugman points out today our employment is less that 2001. Today while job needers have grown, A decade lost for workers. How does that relate to settlement? The housing market will not get up and running it will take to 2019 to get to full employment the way it’s headed now. Settlement helps wall street not main street.
I don’t know if that is just on your machine….I still get the full lineup.
Correct! Most second leins or Home Equity Loans are subordinate to the original loan. UNLESS, the parties involved have read and agreed to priority, second loans are subordinate meaning they take second place to the first one.
Oh, I’m sorry, he’s delegated AG Holder to be the one member of hte administration “officially uninvolved and disengaged”.
Ehh, maybe Holder can have undercover agents sell the worthless paper to the Mexican drug cartels.
:o)
That is true, re: settlement from their perspective.
Honestly, I get so angry with blood pressure rising and words flying out that it is hard to put it on the screen without the scream!
Same question, different day=
How many times must Americans pay the banks for those mortgages?
When did Napoleon Dynamite become HUD Secretary?
I know, right? As has been said by my blogging betters elsewhere “teh stoopid, it burns!”
Did the White House seriously think Donovan could fob off this bullshit on the “progressive media” to give them space to jam this deal down the state AGs’ throats? I haven’t checked my political email yet this morning, so I could have missed something from PCCC or CREDO, but if I don’t see a grass roots email blast denouncing this crap settlement by lunch time, I’m gonna bug the shit out of those folks.
In that Bloomberg piece I linked to @21 & @22, National People’s Action has already denounced the deal:
So I should have credited NPA for the “giving away the store” meme in mine @32.
Rev! Good Morning! I know you’ve been around here a lot more than me lately, but I’m glad to see you.
We need an Archbishop over here to denounce the greed & cruelty of capitalists, like the Archbishop of York did over there in England.
New thread up from Dday upstairs.
We were told by way of an email from an activist who was on a conference with our AG, Kroger, that one of the impetuses for him accepting the compromise was there was no money in our budget for him to go after anyone. You can see where the strategy of starving the beast leads us.
We are learning astounding details today, see Dday’s comment in the new thread I linked to @41 that some of the states have their own “side deals” as part of this so-called nationwide settlement. But the claim by state law enforcement that “we can’t enforce the law because we don’t have the budget” is not new at all. It is a dereliction of duty. State law enforcement has a constitutional and legal duty to obtain the resources necessary to ensure adequate enforcement, esp. for widespread frauds like foreclosure fraud. I am certain your state AG has authorities to collect fines & penalties that he or she has failed to use. Fines sometimes are collected directly by the enforcers to augment their enforcement budgets. Your state AG could also easily hire private law firms to take some of these cases for contingency fees, i.e., they would get paid if they won; these fraud cases are mother lodes for the class-action bar. Don’t believe his or her excuses.
Can we rationally expect anything from a “settlement”. Can’t we just agree this is the PTB trying to screw us. If you are an actual victim (investor or mortgagee) will this settlement bar you from civil action? Will this settlement vitiate the fraud Goldman perpetrated on TIAA-Cref? (just one example of an ongoing lawsuit)
We need to remember that “write down” of a second lien is not “forgive. The debt is still there, and the homeowner still owes it to whoever holds the second note. The only impact this has is that the bank’s reserves for loan loss drops, and it may require that the bank increase that reserve, which cuts into profits.
Ah, theresa, the “ends” justify the mean.
… some rude beast … slouching our way …
(that) the pain, loss, and devastation shall be borne
by those who did not understand what was being done in their names,
at the cost of their lives, their scared honor, and their “fortunes”, such
as they might be …
DW
It is a bank bailout pure and simple. I read a few days ago when they restructure mortgages if the homeowner defaults the government will cover the losses to the banks. I am sorry but nobody gives a sh*t about the American People anymore. They are going for it all because they know their window is closing. IMHO
“For any collateral (homes) for which mortgage notes were not properly transferred (robosigned assignments, robosigned notarizations, robosigned lost-note affidavits, unrecorded assignments), none of the RMBS securities have any value, and none of the second liens have any value. As a matter of law. Because none of the securities and none of the liens had any collateral backing them up when they were originally created. So the banks which issued those crap RMBS and took those crap 2d liens are liable as a matter of law to eat all of those losses.”
Bravo, Fractal @#1!
This is the real issue and what must be made plain. As soon as the scheme was put into practise to slice and dice mortgages in this fashion, the banks ALONE became perpetrators of fraud in BOTH directions – towards the market but most definitely and emphatically towards the homeowners under contract with them.
And this is STILL happening!
Every single class action against gmac…ended with no explanation. (the ones that actually singled out the irregular fees, the accounting error, the escrow manipulations). There have been at least 4 or 5 big class action suits started. I communicated with each one. Everyone of them ended with some legal crap in court or just stopped with no explanation. I knew it wasn’t because there was no crime!
This is exactly like occurred with my state AG when I complained that GMAC (homecomings at the time) had refused to communicate with me through my foreclosure. The AG said that whatever occurred would not save my house or really help me. (Jon Bruening now running for NE Senate) I know for certain that he knows what was going on. At any rate, I was told they would be fined. The fine didn’t change anything…not even subsequent behavior. The money from the fine does not go to Nebraskans…it goes into a fund for our schools. So there was absolutely no benefit to my reporting this to the AG. None.
This is so freaking infuriating. It’s the same damn formula over and over again. They are fighting so damn hard to avoid accountability and doing it well. We really are being held hostages by a band of pirates. Seriously.
ack…I need to stop writing when emotional. The fine does not go to the individual nebraskan but into a find for schools. The law suits ended for various reasons…not no explanation…but the point is that despite ample evidence of wrong doing over 10 plus years, not one lawsuit was able to successful in regard specifically to the issues of irregular fees and accounting errors, forced insurance, and escrow manipulations. There were class actions won but they were specific cases that did not deal with or expose the behaviors listed above.
” They are going for it all because they know their window is closing. IMHO”
And in so doing, they are smashing the glass, the frame, and the whole house in the process.
wavpeac, your story is so important to the narrative – it puts flesh on the statistics and makes us realize how far back reparations ought to extend, and the true damage in Obama’s flighty response that we can’t look back. If he’d said that before being elected, would we all have gone all out voting for him?
Not hardly.
Yes they are Juliana yes they are. I am so ashamed more than anything in the way our country is swirling down the drain.
Oh, I don’t believe any of the excuses. I think there is a collapse of will just like everyone else here at FDL. However, you get less done when you have less money/personnel to do it. There is just so much you can do with increasing efficiencies. Further, Kroger and his group did get in some emergency measures which do rely on private attorneys to pursue.