Banks, not Attorneys General, have become the major sticking point on a foreclosure fraud settlement, as they seek assurances that they protect themselves from future lawsuits.
Bank concerns reached fever pitch on Friday when the New York State attorney general’s office sued Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase and Wells Fargo, accusing the banks of deceptive and fraudulent use of a private database used to register mortgages.
“I think it’s fair to say that the banks are becoming an obstacle to completing this settlement now,” said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity [...]
Bank executives argue that New York attorney general Eric Schneiderman is using the lawsuit to go after claims already covered under the settlement, said the source. JP Morgan Chase, Ally Financial, Citigroup and Wells Fargo declined to comment. Bank of America could not be reached for comment.
What it looks like to me is that the state and federal regulators negotiating the deal gave Schneiderman the go-ahead to file his suit against MERS and three banks. Then the banks found out about it and went nuts. So they’re trying to extinguish that lawsuit, which given the PR nightmare that would entail for Schneiderman, seems impossible at this point. Add to this the fact that Schneiderman’s office has scheduled a 6pm press conference to make a statement of some sort on the settlement. I cannot imagine that this spat will be settled by then.
Meanwhile, activist groups, which mostly cheered the appointment of Schneiderman to the state/federal task force on securitization and origination issues, are back to slamming the settlement as inadequate and weak.
The precise size of the deal hinges largely on the participation of California, whose attorney general, Kamala Harris, has called previous proposals “insufficient,” saying that the relief offered would not enable enough of the state’s homeowners to stay put and would “excuse conduct that has not been adequately investigated.” Officials close to the negotiations said Monday that while California has continued to withhold its support, Harris still could sign on to the settlement if several concerns are addressed, including the extent of legal immunity that banks would get and the process for determining which homeowners would receive help.
Still, some liberal groups and consumer advocates have argued that the expected terms amount to little more than a drop in the bucket, given the size of the housing crisis. Millions of homeowners remain either in foreclosure or are badly delinquent on their mortgages, and the pending deal would reach only a fraction of them.
For months, such groups have urged the Obama administration to undertake deeper investigations into mortgage-related misdeeds and to push for a much larger settlement later than rush into a less substantial deal now. The groups also have been worried that officials might let banks off the legal hook with little more than a slap on the wrist.
For instance, the group Campaign for a Fair Settlement issued a statement over the weekend saying it was “deeply concerned” about the push to finalize the current deal. AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka said recently that “a sum significantly larger than the rumored $25 billion is needed,” given the $750 billion in “negative equity” that exists from borrowers who owe more than their homes are worth.
Among those with concerns about adequacy, California AG Kamala Harris has led the way in trying to ensure more relief. And other AGs have jumped on that bandwagon, beyond New York. According to HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan, there are multiple states working on side deals that would guarantee some level of relief for homeowners. Reports emerged today that
Florida is one of those states seeking a side deal. We know that Massachusetts, Nevada, Delaware and Arizona have not signed on yet either. Between Nevada, Arizona, Florida and California, you have the four “sand states” with the most foreclosures – and presumably the most exposure to foreclosure fraud. And between Delaware and New York, you have the two states from where all the securitization trusts originated.
There’s been some pushback on half a deal being better than none at all. R.J. Eskow has a good scorecard as far as that goes. If the only problem was working out the side deals, I’d say that this would get done before the end of the week. But if banks are trying to stand down Schneiederman’s MERS lawsuit – and presumably others – that could unravel the deal.




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Not certain that I would consider the “reaction” of the banks against accountability to be a “spat”, DDay, more a vicious and unconscionable assault upon the Rule of Law … that should, properly, be smacked down.
The banks have NO actual legal standing to make demands of ANY kind, it is merely a perverted POLITICAL system which is allowing the banks to have any power, ANY say, in what shall go on, at this time.
The banks are now, in point of law and fact, no different from any other potential defendant before the law, they need to be told, in no uncertain terms, to sit down and and shut up.
Methinks, the banks protesteth much too much and are permitted and allowed far too much latitude to “insist” upon furthering their interests and seeking protections which they are in no honest or reasonable position to seek to force on the process … underscoring and demonstrating, once again, the deliberate failure of the Rule of Law which the political and ruling classes clearly intend to force upon the human beings of this nation … and what remains of civil society.
DW
How many more tangles can this web support?
I love this! Jamie Dimon demanded that Obama DO something! about the foreclosure mess. But he was thinking, make it easier for him to ramp up the sale of his mortgage backed securities.
Now they almost have a deal and he is screaming for daddy to give him a better deal.
I would laugh, but we haven’t heard Obama’s reply yet. Will Obama tell the AG’s to grow up and do the Banksters’ bidding?
BTW, I would love to be a fly on the wall at the next Biden family dinner.
I’ll give Jamie boy a better deal — I’ll put him in a nice jail cell that he shares with a big burly hairy guy that killed his last banker because he lost his home.
That should make Dimon’s butt pucker.
Obama and Holder should have jailed Dimon, Fuld, Blankfein, Mozzilo and others long ago.
Does anyone know what Eskow’s politics are? Sorry to be so blunt, but I wanted at least to put that on the table while checking his scorecard.
BTW, Bill Black was just on Dylan Ratigan explaining how easy it would have been to focus scarce criminal investigation resources on the “hot spots” of mortgage fraud (primarily origination fraud). Black’s Jan. 31 rant against the foreclosure fraud settlement said, in so many words, that nobody is going to prosecute origination fraud at this point, so I’m hopeful that Black went on MSNBC to give attention to the “hot spot” technique. He used the term “choke point” rather than “hot spot,” but Dylan kept tying it back to the same kind of “hot spot” crimestopping tools that former NYPD Commissioner Bratton used. (Cuz Bratton was his next guest.)
I wonder how the MO AG news earlier today figures into this. are AGs bringing these somehow in association with the negotiating process? Or is MO trying to get some specific settlement funds carved out for itself? cynical, I know. btw, left comment at the earlier MO story that the seven year sentence is per count.
No one should rely on WaPo as a major defender of truth or full disclosure regarding massive global banks. But in this one instance, they do seem to have acquitted themselves well. They ran at least three different versions of an article with that same photo (small girl holding baby on bare floor of “foreclosed home”). First version admitted sharp opposition from National People’s Action, second version deleted the NPA quote, third version is the one Dday linked to.
As for the notion that the settlement should be at least tolerated, if not celebrated, that notion is completely destroyed by this news from Bloomberg. Three of the five giant banks trying to jam the multi-state settlement down the AGs throats with the offer to pay $2,000 per home are in fact paying $10,000 to $35,000 per home to some of their mortgage holders to accept a short sale and move out. Ten Grand to Thirty-Five Grand.
JPMorgan Chase (JPM) offers the top rate, up to $35,000. Here is what Wells Fargo (WFC) and Bank of America (BAC) are offering:
Shoulda just looked at the URL in Dday’s link. Eskow blogs on Campaign for America’s Future’s website.
That would be the Campaign for America’s Fucking.
Other important facts from the Bloomberg story linked to in mine @8:
Whenever we see the number “11 Million” as representing the total affected population (usually, IIRC, described as those who are “underwater”), remember this article peggging the total number as at least 14 Million. And, instead of “walking away” from your delinquent mortgage or underwater home, think of those facts showing the benefits of squatting in your home, no matter what threats the banks make, until the banks finally cough up your $20,000.
I’m laughing to myself as I mentally compare the treatment of, say, a petty street thief, cuffed, squad-carred, holding celled, with no control whatsoever over his treatment at the hands of rough and unsympathetic law officers and even judges, to the situation the banks face, where, by virtue of their corporate form, they sit in nice rooms surrounded by lawyers in three thousand dollar suits, who speak with more authority and a greater sense of power and entitlement than do the law enforcers themselves. I’m laughing, as I say, but it is really no laughing matter to wonder how many real persons would give their souls if they could just be corporate persons.
Obama, Holder, Clinton, Rubin, Summers, Geithner and the Gramms(Phil&Wendy) should be in jail with them. That would be a good start.
yikes! I was trying to find out Eskow’s politics. His “scorecard” is a little convoluted and not really a “card” but an “essay” so it requires actually reading 700 words instead of putting easy check marks in boxes. heh.
But I can’t actually detect much about his ideological frame from that link, which by the way is here.
It seems evident just from the introductory paragraphs that he thinks the multi-state settlement might address “crime,” which we know it will not do.
And this graf is also wrong, or at least overbroad:
The “SEC” has nothing to do with “perjury” or “tax evasion” or “racial discrimination,” so seriously, wtf is he talking about? (Racial discrimination is a “crime”? Really?)
Sorry, Eskow’s scorecard is really worthless for scoring a settlement of civil violations and unfair & illegal deceptive trade practices by businesses. Here is his list of things to check off, but they are focused on “crime” which has nothing to do with the deal we are all analysing:
[Italics added to block quote.] Obviously, he needs an editor.
This banking stuff is small potatoes. The important thing to keep in mind is that Holder is busy investigating Murdoch. Thank goodness! Imagine… America would be ruined if warrantless wiretapping was considered fair game!
I remember when we chanted “Kill the Bill. Kill the Bill.”
We need a bumper sticker like that to stop this settlement fraud covering up foreclosure fraud.
Are these basic principles from some utopian state. Has there ever been a case in U.S. that satisfied all five at resolution? They are fantastic.
Nothing like giving banks enough of OUR lolly to buy the country, lock stock and barrel and then try to bring a little populist justice to them.
And now, Obama’s caving on taking big bucks thru his SuperPAC ( because everyone else is doing it) he’ll need that bankster $$$$$$$.
0 will probably just hold out for a bigger buyout to scotch the deal.
I’m just glad my mother didn’t live to see what has become of her country she was so proud of that treated her right.
or maybe you meant “fantasy” or “fantastical”?
I was trying not to flame him, but c’mon, Eskow couldda read at least one post on some other blog or taken a look at HuffPo. That he doesn’t realize the multi-state deal has nothing to do with crimes is just too weak for somebody working for CAF.
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don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time – as the saying goes …
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here are 2 ideas for yall ..
‘Investigate don’t Cooperate with Guilty Bankers”
http://acmeartscollective.com/dhopkins/2012/01/13/jailbankers-ows/
or perhaps better…
“Incarcerate don’t Cooperate with Banking Criminals”
Any deal favors the Banksters, They need a deal just like they needed $700,000,000 from us to keep from following Lehman.
MSNBC is running a poll on whether the settlement should be acepted. http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/06/10332260-mortgage-relief-partial-solution-better-than-none
Go to the end of the article.
I know where I would like to run a pole.:)
Schneiderman cancelled the 6pm press conference he had scheduled per @AlisonFrankel and 4ClosureFraud.
Is this a fer sure BAD sign?
If Obama lets the banksters off I will vote for whatever moron the GOP chooses. I swear to God.
I’m voting for Jill Stein. Try it you’ll like it. It’s the beauty way to go when faced with a Hobson’s choice.
Sounds like a plan.
Got any campaign buttons?????
Good question. I don’t know the answer. Just thought it was pertinent.
I thknk there are still plenty of shoes to drop before a final determination can be made.
OTOH, I hope Obama understands that his re-election MAY likely hang on how he handles this. The banksters may have the money, but WE still have the votes.
I respect you and your posts and generally agree with your views, but I think you missed the boat with RJ Eskow. I have followed him for many years and I respect his intelligence and commitment to progressive values. He is not an o-bot.
In the article to which you refer, he mentioned deterrence (i.e., punishment) as a factor that should be considered in evaluating any settlement agreement. He rates it as important and I agree. In other words, if the settlement agreement does not require higher-ups to plead guilty to crimes and serve prison sentences, it will be inadequate. I absolutely agree.
There is no reason why such a condition cannot be part of a settlement agreement, assuming the parties agree to it. I don’t think the banks will ever agree to it and that is one reason why I would likely oppose anything they do agree to do. Lack of lengthy prison sentences together with no agreement to disgorge their obscene fees would be a deal breaker for me, if I were an AG.
Although he did not state what he would consider to be a deal breaker for himself, I think he did set forth a good laundry list of factors to consider in evaluating any settlement agreement. BTW, he also listed another factor to consider with which I agree; namely, that the people and the victims of the frauds should have an opportunity to review and comment on the proposed settlement before it happens. He also mentioned the importance of investigations and a full disclosure of what happened.
Since you mentioned Huffpo, I will also add that Eskow blogs there regularly and he has written several knowledgeable articles about Forfeiture Gate.
Anyway, having in mind what I have said, please give his article another read and see whether you change your mind about him.
Gah. Obama is desperate to show he took on the banks. This deal will get done just like the Healthcare vote, preserving the Bush tax cuts and the debt deal. Obama will turn the screws. California and New York will be brought to heel. Any holdouts will get a ‘Kucinich Plane Ride’
There could be complications with MERS vs. MERS®…
When I read it, it seemed to me that he was writing from a “in a perfect world” mindset. And from that perspective, I agreed with him.
I would not bet against you on that.
Michigan joined the settlement Tuesday and it is being reported that Arizona, and Florida will join a nationwide settlement (Formal announcements for Arizona and Florida could come within a week) over foreclosure abuses, putting count somewhere between 44 and 50 states in the settlement – depending on what California, Delaware, Massachusetts, New York and Nevada do (with Mass quiet and looking like it will join).
Arizona wants to still resolve a separate foreclosure-related lawsuit against Bank of America, and Michigan would continue a criminal investigation into Docx corporation that did the documents – with Missouri also filing criminal charges against the firm and its founder last Friday.
We appear to get reduce principal on about 1 million loans in the settlement plus a cash settlement of about $2,000 to hundreds of thousands of people who lost homes to foreclosure.
It appears likely California’s “significant sticking points” will be settled in the next few days – mainly by increasing the amount to come to California and making the settlement a bit more than the $25 B now on the table.
Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Citigroup and Ally Financial have already agreed to the settlement. In settling the charges, the states would agree not to pursue further investigations against the banks in civil court. The deal would not protect the banks from criminal investigations.
This is how I’d like to see corporate criminals get treated, just once: http://www.lvrj.com/news/video-shows-officers-beating-motorist-in-diabetic-shock-138901274.html