After an all-night round of talks among Eurozone finance ministers, Greece was granted its second bailout, this one for €130 billion, in a package that includes recently passed austerity measures and a debt restructuring. But confidential reports distributed to the finance ministers indicate that the deal will not work and may even be counter-productive.
The deal “closes the door to an uncontrolled default that would be chaos for Greece and Greek people,” said European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso.
But despite those unprecedented efforts, it was clear that Greece, which kicked off Europe’s debt crisis two years ago, was at the very best starting on a long and painful road to recovery. At the worst, the new program would push the country even deeper into recession and see it default on its debts further down the line [...]
Despite the promise of new rescue loans, the other 16 euro countries made clear that their trust in Greece is running low. Before Athens will see any new funds, it has to implement a range of promised cuts and reforms.
Greece will also have to pass within the next two months a new law that gives paying off the debt legal priority over funding government services. In the meantime, Athens has to set up an escrow account, managed separately from its main budget, that will at all times have to contain enough money to service its debts for the coming three months.
These requirements, together with tighter on-the-ground monitoring, are an unprecedented intrusion into the fiscal affairs of a sovereign state in Europe and could eventually see Greece being forced to pay interest on its debt before compensating teachers, doctors and other state employees.
As Felix Salmon writes, this basically turns Greece into a colony of the European Union. Their sovereignty has been completely washed away, their elections turned into meaningless theater. And yet, the plan offers no hope for future economic growth, even though it magically assumes it by 2014. Greece keeps the euro, which is overvalued for its economy, and must cut budgets dramatically during its fifth year of recession. And even THAT doesn’t protect the debt load of the country:
Where’s all this economic growth meant to be coming from, in a country suffering from massive wage deflation? And under this pretty upbeat downside scenario, Greece gets nowhere near the required 120% debt-to-GDP level by 2020: instead, it only gets to 159%. And to make things worse for the Eurozone, the report explicitly says that under the terms of this deal, “any new debt will be junior to all existing debt” — in other words, there’s no way at all that Greece is going to be able to borrow on the private markets for the foreseeable future, so long as this plan is in place.
This isn’t just conjecture. A report distributed to Eurozone officials last week says the same thing – that this deal will make the debt problem worse and will lock Greece out of the credit markets.
The 10-page debt sustainability analysis, distributed to eurozone officials last week but obtained by the Financial Times on Monday night, found that even under the most optimistic scenario, the austerity measures being imposed on Athens risk a recession so deep that Greece will not be able to climb out of the debt hole over the course of a new three-year, €170bn bail-out.
It warned that two of the new bail-out’s main principles might be self-defeating. Forcing austerity on Greece could cause debt levels to rise by severely weakening the economy while its €200bn debt restructuring could prevent Greece from ever returning to the financial markets by scaring off future private investors.
This is a recipe for endless bailouts, for more money, from the Eurozone. Greece will not have the ability to pay its debts and no other means of borrowing money. And that assumes that this deal WORKS, meaning that there’s no overthrow of the government, that a new leadership after elections in April doesn’t object to the plan, that creditors don’t revolt from the harsh terms of the haircut, etc. And this program only gets more expensive for the Eurozone over time. Even the fairly optimistic “downside scenario” from the confidential report shows that, saying that Greece will need €245 billion in aid.
That’s how fiscal transfers work, really. If you want a union with Germany and Greece in it, Germany will have to balance out Greece forever, just as California balances out Mississippi. The difference is that US fiscal transfers are far less visible, and California and Mississippi don’t think they’re sovereign countries (well, let me speak only for California on that one).
But the Germans were reluctant to agree to even this bailout, and will be more reluctant when it doesn’t work and Greece comes a-begging. This problem either gets bigger or is no longer seen as a problem. And somehow, I don’t think the richer countries in Europe will continue to accept these transfers. This buys nothing but time, and in the long run it’s fiscally stupid, if Greece will eventually leave the euro. As Felix concludes, though, time could be valuable in and of itself:
This deal might well delay catastrophic capital flight from Greece, and give the Europeans more time to work out how to shore up Portugal if and when that happens. Will they make good use of the time that they’re buying? I hope so. Because once the Greek domino falls, it’s going to take a huge amount of money, statesmanship, and luck to prevent further dominoes from toppling.




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It depends on how you define “it” and “work”:
State assets will be sold to private investors at fire sale prices.
The Greek 1% will be left alone by the tax collectors while the middle- and lower-classes
have their utilities turned off because they can’t afford the tax surcharge that’s been added to their
electricity bills.
And the banksters will be able to point to the corpse of Greek democracy as a threat
to any other country thinking of giving them a haircut.
Debt peonage.
Before the Greek people may do ANYTHING for themselves, care for themselves or rebuild their ravaged society … they must pay the bloody “pound of flesh”.
The one percent are playing a dead-end game.
Bluntly put, the one percent are a curse upon humanity – they toy with the people and make their bloody and profitable wars on reason, the Rule of Law, humanity and the planet.
This cannot long continue, and it shall not.
Greece is example, and the rest of us are to be paying attention … for the pound of flesh shall be demanded of all of us … soon enough.
The one percent possess no true legitimacy, merely horrific destructive power and the clear willingness to apply it, most brutally, to any who resist their “advances”.
Thank you DDay, for not joining the mindless chorus of media voices who traded in their own humanity for a few pieces of cheap and tarnished silver.
DW
Maybe “won’t work,” aside from being true, is sly code that Greece will leave the Eurozone in the foreseeable future.
Also I don’t see how kicking the can again will dissuade capital flight, it’ll just be more orderly, without bullets for awhile.
Soviet Union…
There is growing realization in Europe that the center right policy of “austerity” will not work and is not what is needed to stimulate the economy. Maybe that notion will catch on in the U.S.. The first test will be the French election where the Socialists, leading in the polls, are challenging Sarkozy.
80 cents of every euro given will go to pay teh debt and only 20 cents to govt. So tell me why would any politician sign on to that. Why would any politician sign on to ending democracy as they know it. Because they work for the debtors not the people and no wit is in plain sight. the greeks better have more tricks up their sleeves then staging yet more protests which so far have had zero effect on the politicians.
I wonder if the US electoral timetable factors into this mess. Since the oligarchs are pretty intent on maintaining power here (stacking the deck on both sides of the aisle), it most definitely behooves them not to upset the applecart too soon. After all, more folk here might start to question US involvement in the destruction of Greece than are doing so at present. And definitely if Ellen Brown is correct on yesterday’s commondreams post, they would not want our apples in the mire as a consequence of a Greek default.
While it may seem that Greece has been over a barrel, maybe Germany has been as well.
If they know it won’t work, why are they doing it?
anyone know?
Exactly.
allen’s got it at 1.
See me above.
And by the way, on the theme of the US election being the important timetable, let me put in a plea for diminished capacity electionwise here – it suddenly came to me that the real effect of a smaller electorate will be the rise of third party potential – so I’m all for not voting on the part of disaffected kleptocrats – that’ll give us who will vote for a third party (and we’re going to unify around one candidate, folks; we have to) all the more clout!
Pardon my twisted sense of humor but….HAHA. Or as Gomer Pyle would say “SURPRISE ! SURPRISE.”
And I’ll bet they took all night to figure this out too.
Oh Germany’s economy has been circling the drain for a while. Just that no one is willing to come out and actually say it.
Even right wing economists admit that austerity measures during a recession drag economies down further. I’m thinkin’ somebody really fancy wants to make a mcmansion out of the Parthenon. They also have some pretty cool art they can auction off.
Sigh.
I’d say you have called it precisely “right”, juliania.
I hope that sensibility might take wings and fly into everybody’s brains and consciousness over the next several weeks – or it is going to be a long, painful, and bloody slog – completely unnecessary and completely destructive.
The intent of neo-liberlaism, and that is what we all face, IS to destroy democracy, the Rule of Law, and civil society.
DW
That’s not the barrel I was alluding to, maukonen, though it all comes down to money power in the end. But you contribute to my point. MSM is all about Germany’s ‘power’ trying to arouse old empirical fears, but I think that’s just a diversion.
I couldn’t ask for more, DW. Although it’s not the best feeling to be right in this instance. And high praise for your efforts on the Sunday Book Salon. I left a belated comment at the bottom – hope it is still there. (I always go back and read those when I can’t attend.)
Have a date scone.
The policy towards Greece is like running up hill during an avalanche. If I can just run fast enough and climb over all of those boulders, I can somehow maintain my position, survive and not get buried by the debris. The Greek 99.99% will get buried and the remaining 0.01% will just relocate their assets to other parts of Europe and live on.
The only reason that Greece will not default (yet) appears to be from CDS’s. If the Greek CDS become payable, there will be another run on the banking system and some of the big French and German (and American) banks may not survive. MF Global tried to bet on the Greek default, but the PTB decided that MF Global fails and the rest of the banking system limps on.
Greece the home of the tragedy and farce is living up to its greatest literary creations. Step 1: lie to the European Union about the financial well-being of the country (using Goldman Sachs to pad their countries finances). 2. Europe wants to believe and does believe the lies. 3. Greece continues the lies and ignores fiscal sanity until it is toooooo late. 4. Europe comes back at Greece like the Avenger (or a jilted former lover). 5. . . . .
This will/would make a great movie (if there were not real lives at stake).
Excellent analysis. It’s all an unfortunate situation. But, I suppose, the international abanking conspiracy HAD to make an EXAMPLE of somebody to stop this mess from cascading to a planetary economic melt-down.
“…the corpse of Greek democracy as a threat.” Brrrrr.
Adding ballast to the MOTUs win theory is Statyajit Das at NC:
Reminds you of what’s afoot in Michigan, no? Or corporate representatives sitting in the administration offices of ‘partially privatized’ schools, a la Arnie Duncan, et.al.
But Das gives us a wee bit of humor on a hard day:
Gotta love that sort of arrogant entitlement, don’t you? Lemon Socialism Rights.
What’s the short version of the book salon. I stopped reading after his moronic answer to my assertion that the 1%ers didn’t believe a word they themselves uttered.
Unfortunately it’s not “the international banking conspiracy.”
The buck stops here.
Just go through your comments, eCAHNomics – realitychecker, DW, HotFlash – apologies to any I’ve left out. And see replies to those. After about the first third I pretty much knew the lay of the land as to which conversations I wanted to follow. It was a biggie, that one! Bravo, FDL.
Ah, thank you for the treat, juliania.
I saw your comment and it is much appreciated. Indeed, Southern Dragon makes mention of it in a comment to me, at the tail-end of the Diner thread, this very morning.
It would be nice, for a change, to be very wrong about certain things, although I doubt that we may have such pleasant feelings, any time soon …
DW
Can you say treaty of Versailles. I knew you could. Now we know where wars come from.
70 years after the Germans last invaded Greece, the Greeks have Adolph Merkel’s jackboots on their neck. How can staying in the Euro be worth the loss of sovereignty in the supposed cradle of liberty.
The vision I have, DW, is of Bush’s Treasury guy (whose name I have worthily forgot but he headed Goldman Sachs previously) fluttering his three pages which of course could not fly, so they whipped it back and trotted out incomprehensible garbage, at the dawn of the first megabailout. Obama knows you can’t just sashay up to the barn door and open it, you have to do a few twirls around the perimeter.
We had a Book Salon on the rise of Goldman Sachs – very good informative book which I had our very agreeable librarian get for our little town library. I made it through maybe a third of it, since the economy sections went into deep dark regions my lung capacity couldn’t manage but the very beginnings of the firm are fascinating. I think it was Mr. Goldman who had a tall top hat so when he was making the rounds of businesses in the early days, he would stuff the notes in there. I bet our overlords have top hats up in their roomy closets chockful of international notes.
I, too, fail to understand why Greece doesn’t leave the Euro and default immediately.
What does anyone in Greece, aside from a few oligarchs who probably no longer have any money in Greece, gain from going along with this disastrous deal?
Wonder when the the first NATO troops will land to “maintain order”…
didn’t the bankers do this to germany after WW1?
i wonder how that turned out
Greece would leave the Euro in a New York minute if the will of the prople were a factor in the governing process. Banksters are running the Greek parliament and basically Merkel, Sarkosy and Obama.
Nato? It will be Xe or some other “Contractors” who specialize in gunning down innocent civilians.
You’re purposely bustin’ muh funny-bone, aren’t ya, juliania?
The Rat in the Hat.
(Take note of that)
The acclaimed Havad man opened the barn door …
But the horses, the horses were there no more.
So he took the up prize
and puffed up to size …
Muttering, all of the while,
“I’m the adult that’s my astute style
For a cool twenty-nine (accumulative) trillion
I guaranteed at least a billion …
La, dee, da …
La, dee, do …
I’ve got mine
so screw you, and you, and you, and you ….
I say, Geithner and Summers! Tip the canoe!!!
There’s not a damn thing the people can do …”
……………………………….
Time shall tell
Will we, all, take a hand-basket to hell?
(Apologies to Dr, Seuss)
DW
In the reaction to ’68, I bet there was a lot of talk of Jacobins and the dangers of revolution, blah blah. So the neoliberal path was pursued, which was, props to DW, a crypto-counterrevolution. And so it leads to a capitalist totalitarianism instead, and the projected threat of commie totalitarianism an arguable phantasm.
On edit: And meanwhile the world runs out of resources. The hippies were right.
Capitalists love their “unintended” consequences. They don’t have to pay compensation and they produce new opportunities.
It was the best anarchy going.
Sure it will work, and exactly as planned too.
Greece isn’t being bailed out, Greek creditors are, i.e., the well off & well connected individuals who invested in Greek debt that but for the bailouts would be worthless. The austerity imposed upon the Greeks is just to enable as many bailouts as the circumstances will allow. How would it look if after being given money Greece continued on with such profligate behavior as paying pensioners and providing essential public services? It would be hard to justify further using Greece as the conduit through which to keep these stupid but powerful bondholders as whole as possible.
It will all end with Greece’s default after a popular uprising. I am sure all involved understand that. The game is to funnel as much money (thank you German and French taxpayers, or depositors of the banks “lending” the bailout money) through Greece and on to its creditors as can be done before the blowback becomes untenable. Bondholders won’t get 100 cents on the Euro but they will go to the ends of the Earth to get as many cents on the Euro as possible & minmize losses. And the pawns, otherwise known as day to day folks in Greece, they’re SOL.
Funny you should say that. The other day I was recalling with someone who around my own age (50ish) my recollection of the 60s protests, hippies, the Silent Majority etc.
I concluded with “the hippies were right.”
Nothing.
But the oligarchs for the time being are running the show. So long as they do the bailout of Greek creditors and the austerity imposed upon the Greek populace that “justifies” those bailouts will continue. Eventually the people will have had enough but until then the oligarchs will work to get the rich holders of Greek debt as many cents on the Euro back as is possible.
To bail out, not Greece, but holders of Greek debt; to the maximum extent possible.
Capital flight? From Greece? The capital left years ago. It’s about recovering as much the capital that had been invested before the sh!t hit the fan.
And who will get blamed for the default? The uprisers.
This is old wisdom but the comprador in us gets fooled most every time.
We must have egalite.
I think they will be given credit, not blame. Maybe blamed by the creditors but I am sure Louis XIV or XVI, whoever, blamed the republicans for the French Revolution.
Default was the obvious and only answer from the get go.
Yeppers.
Like your comments and perspectives, BobT.
Hope to see you here often as time and opportunity permit.
DW
Jeffrey Sachs before he was “born again”? Isn’t the newly appointed Greek Prime Minister a technocrat and former head of the Euro Central Bank?
Yes, of course both. But my point is that the capitalists are hypocritical and irresponsible (following my thread above), in contradiction to their professions.
People engage in the capitalist game of chicken all the while spouting capitalist idiocies.
A system which exacerbates deception, hypocrisy, and antagonism and blames human nature for those flaws is to be denounced, it’s crimes compensated for, and incarcerated.
Exactly. Sachs a “dissatisfied” graduate of Capitalism U … but the institution does not change.
It is time for the Greek people to revolt. I cannot see how they will be worse off in five years or so by defying the ECB and the EU and simply dumping the present Greek government and starting over. The short term pain will likely lead to more long-term gain than this agreement, which looks to lead to even more long-term pain. The debt-holders made truly stupid investments, in collusion with a succession of corrupt Greek governments. It’s past time for those “investors” to eat their losses. If the system wasn’t corrupt from the beginning, with rich bankers priming the pumps to make money for themselves off of the people of a nation, this wouldn’t be happening now. The fly in the soup of the EU has been the ability of the rich nations to prey on the peoples of the poor nations, and Greece needs to put a stop to the farce–now.
Milton Friedman’s Chicago School disaster capitalism is taking the world by storm. Hell, it’s being practiced here, and the results are devastating.
A few months ago WSJ had a piece about hoarding cash, kickbacks, tax evasion, and getting it out of the country. I don’t have a link now.
I wonder how many professionals and upper middle class have stashed stuff out of sight pending even worse times, a decision, and the ability to leave with what they have. Those who can would try, no?
I understand your point, the tycoons’ wealth left long ago, but I’d bet the country has a lot more bleeding to do from the other sectors.