So we’re going to have another fatuous debate about gas prices in this country, as if the President has a ticker on his desk that he can set to the 9/10 of a cent. President Obama made the effort to mock this. As a national politician he obviously feels he cannot say “there’s not much I can do,” but he came extremely close in this speech. I give him credit for anticipating the Republican line of attack:
You can bet that since it’s an election year, they’re already dusting off their 3-point plan for $2 gas. And I’ll save you the suspense. Step one is to drill and step two is to drill. And then step three is to keep drilling. (Laughter.) We heard the same line in 2007 when I was running for President. We hear the same thing every year. We’ve heard the same thing for 30 years [...]
So we’re focused on production. That’s not the issue. And we’ll keep on producing more homegrown energy. But here’s the thing — it’s not enough. The amount of oil that we drill at home doesn’t set the price of gas by itself. The oil market is global; oil is bought and sold in a world market. And just like last year, the single biggest thing that’s causing the price of oil to spike right now is instability in the Middle East -– this time around Iran. When uncertainty increases, speculative trading on Wall Street increases, and that drives prices up even more [...]
Over the long term, the biggest reason oil prices will probably keep going up is growing demand in countries like China and India and Brazil. I want you to all think about this. In five years, the number of cars on the road in China more than tripled — just in the last five years. Nearly 10 million cars were added in China in 2010 alone — 10 million cars in one year in one country. Think about how much oil that requires. And as folks in China and India and Brazil, they aspire to buy a car just like Americans do, those numbers are only going to get bigger.
So what does this mean for us? It means that anybody who tells you that we can drill our way out of this problem doesn’t know what they’re talking about, or just isn’t telling you the truth. (Applause.)
Lots of truth in there. World demand does drive oil prices, though US demand is at least a part of that, and we’re at a 16-year low. Geopolitics probably has driven some of the run-up, but of course that goes hand in hand with a strategy toward Iran that threatens global oil supplies, which didn’t come out of nowhere and certainly has something to do with Washington. And making the US more elastic in terms of energy use is key, and massive development isn’t necessarily the answer there.
I would point you to Matthew Yglesias and Brian Beutler for more in this general vein. But if we’re going to have a grown-up discussion about gas prices, we should add a couple more pieces to the puzzle:
1) Mass transit. Part of the reason that America suffers more than some other countries with respect to gas prices is the lack of available transit options. The House’s transportation bill fixed to make that worse, by eliminating a percentage of that bill which goes toward transit funding. They’re reworking that now. And a conversation about how to deal with gas prices should talk about building and subsidizing transit options.
2) Speculation. This was not a part of Obama’s speech, but Nancy Pelosi is all over it. And with 64% of the oil market dominated by speculators, it’s a serious concern. And there’s room for the President to do some work here. The CFTC needs a stronger crackdown on over-speculation in the commodities markets, period, full stop. You’d see prices go down.
3) Turn down the volume. To the extent that instability in the Middle East is a factor in the prices, the threat of an Iran attack is the driving force. Obviously the President isn’t the only one, or even the main one, driving rhetoric on Iran. In fact, many Administration players have tried their best to turn down the volume. Perhaps linking the belligerence to gas prices directly would do the trick.
These are just a few thoughts, and I agree there’s no silver bullet here. But there are a few concrete steps, and they have nothing to do with drill baby drill, or anything Republicans have been saying, for that matter.




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4. tell the oil companies that if they want to drill for oil within the territory of the USA, that they have to invest a certain part of the money per barrel, in renewable energy, within the USA in the year the oil is extracted, based on market value of the oil.
jobs, oil independence, reduce carbon emissions.
“Mostly”, lots of half-truth …
Yes, American demand is at a 16 year low, but who or what is the largest single user of petroleum “products”?
The US Military.
Yes, “instability” in the Middle East “… this time around Iran” … is a factor.
Who is primarily responsible for this instability.
The US … government and US “interests”.
Yes “… the speculative trading on Wall Street …” is part of the problem.
Who is not limiting or regulating that speculative trading?
The US government …
Yes others would like to live the “lifestyle” it is presumed that the American middle class “lives” …
Four more planet earths to “private enterprise” and … whoopie do! Everyone can “live” as foolishly as the American people have been “led” to “believe” is their “exceptional” right …
And so on …
What is the half-life of half-truths?
Of myths?
Have you seen this, yet, DDay, “Let Your Life Be a Friction to Stop the Machine”?
http://therealnews.com/t2/component/hwdvideoshare/?task=viewvideo&video_id=73076.
Look, listen, and weep …
Nonetheless DDAY, you are the best reporter in the business.
I simply don’t know, and cannot imagine, what we would do without you.
Take a care …
DW
You are correct, and so is “the market”…
Hybrid car sales booming nicely. Electric cars on the road (Leaf, Volt) — although why one spends a fortune on a battery powered car when a diesel fueled car is equally economical seems crazy to me.
Could both be correct?
And by the way, how do speculators increase the Price of Oil? By buying and holding it off the market? Where is it stored? No one wants a cargo of crude lying around in a tanker, because the light ends (short hydrocarbon chains) are volatile, the cargo slowly turns to tar…not easy to remove from a VLCC.
It is very risky to hold crude, the price is so volatile that the possibility of a loss is huge. Price changes in a week long tanker voyage can turn a deal sour.
One also may want to consider the identities of these “so called” speculators – JP Morgan, etc. These large banks provide liquidity to the oil market (pun intended).
If the “speculators” actually had to “hold” to physically maintain the petroleum, then the “market” would, actually, work.
The response of the “little people” to dwindling energy, is appropriate and responsible, however, the “manipulations”, cloud both truth AND perception, Synoia.
The “speculators” simply “gamble” on what the price will be, always higher, and always as “much” higher as the speculators “believe” the “pound of flesh” will be coughed up, whatever the cost to other things.
The “speculators” are a protected “species”. Protected by the political class, so Pelosi’s shock, appalled and “outraged” shock … is mere kabuki, even as Obama’s truthieness is calculated and deceptive.
If you’ve not seen the link, then please, take a wee moment (approximately twenty-four minutes) to do so.
Eye and mind-opening stuff, but nothing you’ve not heard on FDL, for considerably more than 24 minutes.
DW
I’m surprised (if true) that Obama didn’t mention the increasing CAFE fuel economy standards which are estimated by the time of full implementation in 2016 to save $4,000 in lifetime fuel costs per vehicle (Car & Driver).
Ubetchaiam also has a diary up that addresses the issue of “speculators”, Synoia, if you’ve not seen it, it is also well worth the time to read and ponder.
http://my.firedoglake.com/ubetchaiam/2012/02/23/ask-a-question-get-an-answer/#comments
DW
It’s not just britain where this happens:
“These tankers have been parked off our shores for months, refusing to unload their oil until prices have risen even higher. The delay makes millions for speculators… and keeps your petrol costs soaring.
Laden with fuel, three oil tankers sit idly within sight of the British coastline, playing a waiting game that is driving up petrol prices for hard-pressed motorists.
They are part of a flotilla of ten vessels refusing to unload their cargo until market speculation has driven up its price to the level they want.
And as the value of that cargo is currently rising by over £1million a day, driven partly by profiteering traders and speculators, it is unlikely to see a petrol station any time soon.”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1229070/Sharks-British-coast-Oil-tankers-refuse-unload-prices-rise–keeping-fuel-costs-soaring.html#ixzz1nJwSHejT
news report (CNN):
Gas prices have gained 12 cents this week. The price of unleaded gasoline shot up overnight by 3.5 cents to a nationwide average of $3.647.(end)
Regular is $4.29.9 where I live. Five dollar gas should put a real damper on the economy. Keeping your tank full will only hasten it.
Some people are manipulating supply to make an increased profit on a common commodity? I’m shocked. Why, it’s un-American. Uh — wait a minute.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/23/us-motorists-gasoline-mexico-outbid-refinery_n_1297527.html
What about fact that they’re exporting US fuel to Mexico and other countries who will pay more than we will? Why no mention of that? That’s a HUGE driver of prices at the pump.
Pump prices are only partly related to real costs of crude oil. They are primarily story prices; if there is some story to justify all dealers raising prices, they do. If there are enough dealers who try to take market share with a price war, they get constrained.
Also, that ability of speculators to hedge their speculative transactions increase or decrease the possibility of an oil price bubble.
Now, now, Tominator,
Americans will, surely, take exceptionalism to this …
Hint: the folkses are not supposed to know anything about this revolting devilment …
National $ecurity is a $take …
(How much fuel do drones use, BTW?)
DW
Bubble, bubble, oil and trouble …
Great strategic comments from you, TD, on many threads.
Always much appreciated.
DW
America EXPORTS oil to other countries.
Investigate speculation and force commodity traders to have a real stake in them by being able to physcially hold what they are buying.
OMG so the trillions of dollars the FED is pumping into black holes has no effect on oil prices. Yep let’s not mention that. Nothing to see here
Why prefer electric to diesel? Because a) diesel costs more than even regular gas, and b) switching to electric-powered cars allows for much greater flexibility in how to get the power needed to run the car. You can get electricity from several sources — and overall, even electricity from a coal-fired power plant has a smaller carbon and pollution footprint than does gasoline.
This last point is especially true now that we’re running out of the easy-to-exploit sources and must resort to fracking and the like — processes that not only throw pollution into the air, but are also expensive; it costs $60 a barrel to get oil out of the Bakken Shale in North Dakota, which means that oil prices have to be at least $90 a barrel for the stuff to turn a profit — which also means that there’s no way we’ll ever see $2-a-gallon gas again, no matter what John Boehner says.
Don’t worry. Gasoline prices will drop sharply in Sept & Oct.
Hmm, I thought that was when we would go to war with iran. Nothing like a war to make a puppet look presidential.
Only if Obama duct-tapes Bibi’s and Avi’s mouths shut. If not for their warmongering, oil would sell around $75 a barrel — and the tar sands wouldn’t be profitable. (It costs $50 to $60 a barrel just to frack the oil out of the Bakken Shale in North Dakota — and that stuff’s not frozen so solid it has to be mixed with natural gas just to flow in a pipeline. )
“And we’ll keep on producing more homegrown energy.”
Except the renewable kind. This comment is from the same guy who refused to reinstall on the WH the solar panels from the Carter administration. If the answer isn’t more drilling, then explain yourself on your failure to promote renewable energy. Where’s your bully pulpit for conservation? And the “instability in the Middle East”? Well, Obama owns a big chunk of that responsibility.
Thanks much. Your itemizing the half-truths was on target. Thanks for what you do. And hey, would YOU like to be on the CFPB Consumer Advisory Board as the official FDL (although I don’t have the power to make that designation) bullshit detector? :)
Electric cars are much healthier.
After about 60 miles you get to get out and walk home.
Excellent, in several ways.
take no unnecessary trips, use carpools or public transportation whenever you can, park your car one extra day per week, obey the speed limit, and set your thermostats to save fuel….
That’s why you have to have TWO cars.
Electric takes you to grocery and liquor store.
Gaoline car takes you to the beach, or the lake, or the mountains.
Having TWO cars boosts the economy and creates jobs. THis ain’t rocket science. UNtil, of course, we have rocket cars.
It’s not just the cars, it the asphalt, plastics, fertilizers, and a host of other products made with oil. The list is long. If we want to perpetuate the life of some of those pretty valuable oil products, we need to have another source of fuel for homes and automobiles.
May I add….don’t use the drive-thru window at Taco Bell or Burger King. Park the car and go inside. The service is faster anyway.
You listed 3 ways we could reduce the price of oil.
Why do you feel there’s nothing the most powerful man on the planet can do? Could you also list why you think Obama is powerless to implement or otherwise encourage any of those.
Then explain why Romney would be just as powerless as President.
Here’s another piece of the puzzle as best I can report it. Last night on a local radio program called “Livin’ on the Edge” with David Bacon on Keystone Pipeline activities ongoing in Texas. The TransCanada folk are heavily engaged in piling up the pipe and bullying landowners into thinking it is all a done deal according to the report. And there is a case today in Texas that might be googleable, brought by 80 landowners down there. Almost accurate quote from the company: “We will not let any landowner prevent us from building our multimilliondollar pipeline.”
The spokesperson for the group is Julia Trigg Crawford.
It’s been tried.
It was called the “malaise speech” and got everyone all enthused in the presidents leadership.
DW,
This film is a wake up call to the corporate takeover of America.
Most of the dialogue we already are familiar with.
At the same time, the graphics are outstanding and disturbing .
Very Highly recommended.
http://therealnews.com/t2/component/hwdvideoshare/?task=viewvideo&video_id=73076
Ah, yes. Barry’s jacket is off and his sleeves are rolled up.
He must be speaking the truth.
Fool me once, you slimy two-faced Republicrat.
California exported more than half the oil products it refined last year.
No, it really hasn’t. Not since war time.
As long as Wall Street wants high gas prices, so will the Democrats (and Republicans). What they say to contrary is for the benefit of the sheep only.
The Obama administration themselves have been talking up attacks (via Israel) on Iran and they’re also the ones who got caught with a drone flying over. If Obama wanted to lower gas prices, he could drop the militaristic tone. Also if Obama wanted to lower gas prices, he wouldn’t have halted smog regs. Obama is the same one who just before Petronobyl said that deepwater drilling was safe.
With Obama talk is cheap – it is his actions that matter…and so far from him we’ve got smog, ME wars and ME war talk and the massive oil spill.
I guess that’s true, not since war time.
It was tried 33 years ago when Carter told the country to use mass transit and “In a nation that was proud of hard work, strong families, close-knit communities, and our faith in God, too many of us now tend to worship self-indulgence and consumption.”
And now we have “We’ve lost our ambition, our — our imagination, and — and — our willingness to do the things that built the Golden Gate Bridge…” Barack Obama, 2011.
Cool, we are importing oil from Mexico — the source of over 10% of our oil imports — and turning around and exporting back to them the higher value finished products. It creates jobs and tax revenue here in the U.S.
While I agree with most of what you say, I do disagree with your statement about smog regulations. Not that I don’t support smog regulations, but there is the problem that regulating auto emissions is done at the cost of vehicle mileage. And speaking of mileage, I owned a 1992 Geo Metro that got 46-47 miles per gallon, mostly highway, but some city mixed in. That is better than todays hybrids, and it had more interior room than most of todays electrics. I have a friend that still has one of these little gas misers. His catalytic converter rusted out, so he replaced it with a straight pipe, and he swears he gets over 55 miles to the gallon–in town (an example of emission control lowering mileage). If the Geo got such good mileage 20 years ago, what is the matter with todays vehicles? I really don’t understand what the hell is going on.
You know the old saying…
If Obama’s lips are moving… HE’S LYING.
Obama is comical in the way he can say the following as if he has nothing whatsoever to do with it:
It’s also odd that just a wee bit ago he was telling us that “drill, baby, drill” was making us more “energy independent.” He also couldn’t hold back his enthusiasm for fracking.
So which is it, Barack? This speech is more honest than the last one. It even contradicts the silly platitudes of the last one. But he still acts as if the US, under his leadership, has nothing to do with the “instability” and “unpredictability” of the well-rehearsed propaganda feeding us a new war on Iran.
It’s funny how the truth only matters when it’s politically expedient.
You people who are blaming Obama for the runup in gas prices or the failure to keep the runup from happening, consider:
* Obama tried to calm down Netanyahu’s call for strikes on Iran during Bebe’s White House visit earlier this year. It did not go over well with either Netanyahu or the U.S. Israeli lobby. It is Israel that continues to threaten military action against Iran, along with the Republicans in their campaign debates. Imagine the outcry if Obama pulled back on economic sanctions against Iran or publicly told Israel to stop threatening Iran just as Iran was about to hold elections this year – something like “He’s coddling Muslims and threatening Israel!”
* The president has repeatedly made funds available to states to invest in mass transit proposals. Republican governors and statehouses who have not outright returned the money and refused to invest in mass transit projects have taken the money but deferred the projects. He has repeatedly promoted green energy projects and made what money the congress would approve available to states for such projects; he made money available to states to retrofit public buildings to save energy, and he continues to tout electric cars to reduce gasoline usage.
* Forcing the CFTC to investigate energy markets has been tried and failed numerous times since speculation ran up the price of oil, and consequently the price of gasoline, in the summer of 2008. Nancy Pelosi requested that then-president Bush direct the commission to investigate speculation in energy markets (her request was ignored); the House passed the Energy Markets Emergency Act of 2008, a bill that failed in the senate, that would have attempted to curb excessive speculation in the energy futures markets; Obama has argued that current loopholes in CFTC regulations have contributed to skyrocketing prices and lack of transparency in oil markets, the most egregious being the 1991 law (passed under Bush I) that exempted large traders and banks from regulation in commodity markets. But this was a law passed by congress and can not be rolled back by Executive Order. A president, any president, can do very little to regulate markets when hamstrung by congress, even though the regulators are ostensibly under control of the Executive branch.
Hark! I hear the cannon roar. Is that the king approaching?
In some news cycle in a time misty passed, Obama said he’d release the US oil reserves when things got troublesome. So, does he want us to suffer some more? Gas prices fluctuate a lot, but when they stay high for months, they drive up the price of many goods. The prices of those goods, especially food, stay up and never retreat. The past is prologue.
It can’t be that long ago — weeks or a month or two — since the news cycle that reported how Saudi Arabia would increase production if Iran cut its oil supply to Europe and the US. How come that verbal guarantee doesn’t worry the speculators?
Conclusion: Obama only promised to release some of the US oil reserve, so that he could refuse to release any, which would indicate to Iran that the US ‘needs’ to keep its reserves in store just in case.
To go against the prevailing sentiment for a moment, rising gas prices at the pump does drive consumers to alternatives. And the faster that those alternatives do not depend on carbon-based fuels, the faster the geopolitics of the Middle East becomes irrelevant. That is why Saudi Arabia has pushed OPEC for 30 years not to raise prices too high. Speculators don’t necessarily have that same discipline. Unless someone creates the story that yanks them back. Watch the business press to see if someone gets traction with a “maybe prices are too high for the oil companies’ best interest” piece. That could puncture the bubble the same way the realization that “maybe we’ve overbuilt McMansions” did.
The market story seems to be Saudi Arabia is nearing peak oil and can’t significantly raise production or…the time to stand up the capital investment in equipment to raise production is too long to matter. Take your pick. They’re only narratives.
The reason Obama did not mention speculation is because he is beholden to the speculators for campaign contributions. Don’t expect any reform in that direction during this administration.
He didn’t? Hmmm.
Reform is what he didn’t mention for the reason you cited. It’s the normal way of the universe after all. /s
Higher prices at the pump become huge windfall revenues for the banks since most pump transactions use credit or debit cards, which means the banks get 2-3 points of the transaction off the top and instantly. That’s one thing.
The previous big spikes forced many consumers on the thin edge to max out their credit and become indebted from where they never recovered. They couldn’t pay down their credit cards, they couldn’t pay their mortgages, they couldn’t make home-equity loans, having no equity left.
Bingo
Replying to SueDe @ 41
Blaming versus saying he has some control or impact of an issue is obviously not the same thing.
* Obama tried to calm down Netanyahu’s call for strikes on Iran during Bebe’s White House visit earlier this year.
We weren’t debating what would best get Obama reelected. The question was could the president use his position to mitigate bellicose statements from other quarters and thereby reduce tensions, and oil prices. The answer from you seems to be yes, but the optics might be difficult for him to manipulate. I guess you have decided that Americans care more about Israel than they do about the price of oil and hence the economy (and that’s giving a lot more credit to that particular ridiculous line of reasoning that is merited). Your position is easily disputed by polling.
* The president has repeatedly made funds available to states to invest in mass transit proposals.
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So he isn’t powerless to make funds available. I’m glad you agree. He slipped one by those big bad Republicans I guess. How is it he is powerless then, again? Because bankrupt states haven’t been able to use those funds. Why not just make more available.
* Forcing the CFTC to investigate energy markets has been tried and failed numerous times since speculation ran up the price of oil, and consequently the price of gasoline, in the summer of 2008. … A president, any president, can do very little to regulate markets when hamstrung by congress, even though the regulators are ostensibly under control of the Executive branch.
You can’t say that congress itself was thwarted by a President and then claim that the President is ham strung by the same body. That doesn’t make any sense at all. Presidential prerogative has gone up, not down, over time.
What alternatives? Perhaps in the city you have alternatives but in the suburbs or a rural setting your “alternative” to a private automobile is a $50 cab ride.
My particular area’s community college is around 20 miles away. We have a satellite to access some of the classes but the commmunity offers no transportation to the actual college. In other words in order to get your degree here you pretty much have to have a POV.
Our local bus system is decent and affordable but incredibly limited. The bus to go to the closest city is $5. Even that withstanding there are areas that are surrounding the area that would be practically impossible to get to without a vehicle. There are no buses connecting Blacksburg to say- Radford. This limits the range for people who don’t own personal vehicles substansially.
We have alot of work to go for us to tell people that if they don’t like the price of gas that they have alternatives, in my viewpoint.
He mentioned them. He just doesn’t appear to see a problem with it. They’re just a bunch of “savvy businessmen” I guess.
The ones that I was thinking of were the shift from gas-hog SUVs to higher-mileage vehicles (which has occurred even in the recession) and the shift to hybrids. There are still people in the US who can afford to make these shifts. And enough to affect US gas demand.
I understand full well the situation in rural areas. I’ve lived in rural areas and am not far from ones where I live now.
Just a historic curiosity, but there was a time in the early 1970s when the federal government was underwriting rural public transportation (primarily scheduled or on-demand vans) in demonstration projects in Appalachia and some other areas of the country.
Based on my experience in a rural area, I think there are as many cultural issues as practical ones with respect to public transportation. And it’s not the cultural tie to automobiles you find in suburbs. It seemed to me at the time to be a matter of what drivers one felt one could trust.
As much as I loathe preznit, I do agree this is an especially important disinformation campaign by corporate oligarchs & billionaires & war-mongers that we need to crush, if possible. So thank you very much for keeping the spotlight on this.
This problem is easy to solve:
Didn’t President Obama just tell the Health insurance companies they would have to provide some services for free?
Why can’t he just tell the Oil companies they will have to provide gas at $3 a gallon?
Another thing the President can do is nationalize the Oil industry, why are they allowed to make such large profits?