We’re going to have that rare moment this week in Congress, a vote which both sides anticipate with a certain glee. The transportation bill is on the floor of the Senate this week, and Democrats can’t wait to have their rivals initiate a vote on the Blunt amendment, which responds to the President’s birth control universal access rules by allowing any employer to opt out of any health insurance mandate on religious grounds. But Republicans are all too happy to bring the vote to the floor as well:
The GOP proposal — expected to be offered as an amendment sometime this week to a transportation bill currently being considered by the Senate — would “give employers an unprecedented license to dictate what women and men can have covered,” said Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.) on a conference call with reporters Friday.
“It’s extreme, it’s dangerous and it puts employers smack between women and their health care and politics between women and their health care,” said Murray, who is also the chairwoman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee [...]
Republicans said Friday that Democrats have stooped to scaring voters by spreading misinformation. They charge that the modified rule still does not take into account the conscience of religious employers, such as the Catholic Church, that opposes contraception.
“I agree that politics don’t belong in this debate and that’s why these blatant attempts to frighten and mislead Americans about this bipartisan bill are simply shameful,” said Blunt, who is the Republican Conference vice chairman.
In fact, Blunt wrote an op-ed in his hometown newspaper arguing that his amendment merely preserves religious freedom, and that he means only to uphold the Constitution through the legislation. Of course, to those employees of religious universities or hospitals that happen to not follow the same religious beliefs, they would find themselves the object of discrimination under the Blunt amendment. They would be unable to access the same health benefits as their colleagues at other companies merely by virtue of their employer’s religious objection. And under the Blunt amendment, that could easily be true of any employer in the nation. An employer who happens to be a Christian scientist could have a moral objection to medical care generally, and could legally opt out of providing insurance to his or her employees. This is the slippery slope here.
As I said, you don’t often see Democrats and Republicans simultaneously giddy to hold a vote. With Democrats seemingly united against the amendment, it’s not going to pass. But it will be interesting to see how the numbers break down, and who wins the battle in the country over the intent of the legislation and the parties’ attitudes toward women’s health and religious freedom.




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why do we attach crap like this to a transportation bill,this has nothing to do with transportation,this is how we get all the bullshit laws in this country passed.our.they need to stop attaching crap to other bills,bring them up on their own and vote on the merits of them.
Oh, it’s all the rage. In the picturesque Midwest, women are treated as though they were cattle by legislators.
State Farm Committee OKs Bills on Abortion
“An Illinois farming committee approved two anti-abortion bills, while opponents watched, wearing T-shirts stating: “Women are not livestock.” ”The Illinois House Agriculture & Conservation Committee overwhelmingly passed both bills this week and sent them to the state House floor.”
LINK.
Putting payer betw patient & med ind is fundamental to third party payment and also happens when the USG is the payer.
Cattle are having abortions? What? Does Monsanto have GMO farmers too? They seem fairly inhuman.
. Of course, to those employees of religious universities or hospitals that happen to not follow the same religious beliefs, they would find themselves the object of discrimination under the Blunt amendment.
It must be said that the majority of Catholics use birth control of some sort not approved by the Church. Even though they follow the rest of the church’s religious beliefs.
Yeah, that was by design of the Obama administration – which wouldn’t even have single-payer at the HCR table. The best way to take employers out of it is to simply remove them from being involved to begin with.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/14/98-percent-catholic-women-birth-control_n_849060.html
Newt and Rick claim they can get Catholic votes this issue is an obvious attempt to win Catholic votes
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http://womensissues.about.com/od/thepoliticalarena/a/GenderVoting.htm
The Pope cannot control his own flock on birth control. Women care about birth control more than men do if Newt, Rick and the GOP want Catholic votes rather than trying to appease the Pope they should do things that please the largest group of Catholic voters namely women 98% of Catholic Women mind you is huge number to piss off.
The wording IS horrible. The Democrats should be doing better at explaining that this is about rejecting theocracy. They need to make the distinction between religious freedom and forcing someone to be held captive to the religious dogma of others. No one is forcing Catholic bishops to take birth control. It’s the Catholic bishops that wish to take freedom of choice away from women based on their on interpretation of God’s will.
Like so many other things in the Constitution and life the Retardicans have it backassward on religious freedom. They seem to want to believe religious freedom means the freedom of a few to impose “their” religious beliefs on everyone else. Precisely what the founders were trying to avoid. Its always it seems about what they want and if that requires Orwellian twisting and deconstructing of language to accomplish it, NP!
The GOP backing this issue suggests that they know they are going to lose the election but they want to hold on to their base their older dying base more than they are willing to change with the times.
I think this issue can help them hold onto their base but at what cost?
The cost is that Obama will get reelected even though no President has ever been reelected with such high unemployment numbers.
The GOP has pollsters Birth Control is popular with a majority of voters so is Gay rights and even more important its more popular with younger voters.
The GOP by holding on to their base is risking its future.
Hispanic Voters are younger and also growing fast but the GOP has made it clear we don’t belong.
I don’t think Rick is helping young Hispanics stay in the Church and Mitt is hurting the Mormon’s efforts to recruit us.
Which is the way it worked throughout history until Obama came along and forced everyone to have insurance.
Just as in the name Santorum, one can’t spell the name Blunt without the letters N, U and T.
In response to ThingsComeUndone… Hey Mitt doesn’t want to recruit Hispanics to the GOP, he’s more interested in baptizing all of ya to be Mormon’s once your dead.
Valerie had a solution for all of this. Of course, Valerie also picked up a gun, went to The Factory, “root-a-toot-toot three times she did shoot” and was promptly shipped off to Bellevue.
Yes we all want to pay higher insurance rates as Hospital employees get Pregnant with kids they don’t want, pregnancy costs more than birth control.
Or the hospital employees have abortions for kids they don’t want (which is something the church hates more than birth control by the way).
The Church and the GOP really have not thought this through what ever happened to asking the hospital workers what they want? The Church, their big Corporate Hospitals, the Big Government in the Bedroom GOP don’t have to live with the consequences of unplanned children their employees do.
So lets ask the Hospital employees to vote on the issue with 98% of Catholic Women already using birth control its not like us Lefties are forcing the Church to do something they don’t want to do.
We are merely forcing the Church leadership to accept the reality that 98% of Catholic Women use birth control.
Agreed any ritual that involves the dead however is Necromancy Necro means death mancy magic. The Catholic Church is very very anti Necromancy last I checked.
People made a choice in life to be Atheist, Catholic, Jewish, Protestant, to change that choice without the consent of the dead (not sure how you get consent) implies humans have power over the dead.
Power to change the judgment from heaven to hell they receive after they die. I am really surprised that Rick has not gone all religious war on Mitt.
I think Necromancy trumps abortion in the Catholic no list.
Take them out of the equation by not making them pay for employee health insurance in the first place so that way employers aren’t literally in the middle of it to begin with. When you make a person or organization pay for something, you open up grounds for them to object to what they are paying for.
The problem was that there was no systemic reform in HCR. We’re still paying extremely high prices through private agencies without even the ability to opt-in to a government program…and along with that almost all healthcare is employer-based and non-portable. Non-portable employer-based healthcare isn’t worth saving and the Catholics/Republicans are actually giving ammunition for single-payer and/or more portable health insurance. Things like the PO would have not only served to drive down costs, but let people bypass their employers.
Kind of all over the map.
1) You claim insurance rates would be higher without birth control coverage because pregnancy costs more than birth control.
2) You claim employees would get Pregnant with kids they don’t want, and/or have abortions without birth control coverage.
3) But then you claim 98% of Catholic Women already using birth control.
#3 seems to disprove #1 and #2.
BTW, I’m not Catholic or against BC. I just don’t think the government should force employeers to pay for “stuff” for their employees.
Are you kidding me!!! . . . What has become of the defenders of Freedom? Has the fact that this is about religious freedom blinded you???
How can you say it’s unfair that some employees will recieve health care insurance that covers birth control and other employees of religious run companies won’t?
Should we also due away with Labor Unions because they negotiate better health care coverage for their members? Isn’t that unfair to the non labor union workers? or even to the workers who belong to a different Labor Union that isn’t as good of a negotiator???
And how about conscientious objectors??? should they be forced to fight in our wars to?
This is about our freedoms, not just religious groups, but everyone must not be forced by the government to pay for something we don’t want, or to buy something we don’t want.
Uh- Maybe he did so because opting out of insurance doesn’t mean you opt out of HEALTH CARE. The taxpayers were already footing the bill for people who did not have insurance.
Your argument is ridiculous. No one is forcing the Catholic bishops to utilize birth control. If you wish to live in a theocracy where religious clerics get to determine what you can legally have access to what medical procedures might I suggest you move to the Middle East. The rest of us reject the Catholic Church’s right to decide morality for the rest of us.
They are going to be paying one way or another. Even a single payer system would require employer contributions.
At the end of the day the debate needs to be that an employer has no right to determine personal morality for its employees outside of a workspace.
Why are you against single-payer or the public option? At the end of the day, employers shouldn’t be selecting the insurance options of their employees. People should be able to select their own insurance irrespective of which employer they have.
you have to be joking, right?
Right now everyone has access to birth control, correct?
Can we all agree on that?
I mean how can you have 98% of women using birth control if they can’t get it?
Now the President wants to change the law, and demand that every employer in the country provide birth control in all their insurance plans.
I’m not sure what sense this makes to him or anyone else, but that is the fact of the matter.
Some people are old, I mean way past the age of needing this in their health insurance plan, but it’ll be there because this President says it has to be, and those people will have to pay extra to have it there.
Again you are all being blinded by religion!
Please try to remove your blinders and see the true issue here.
In a single payer option you would still have a portion of funding coming from employers. Additionally, as ecahn rightly points out you would still have a third party coming between health care and individual. The only difference is the third party is the government.
The argument is poorly worded because the “problem” would still exist in a single payer system.
“The rest of us reject the Catholic Church’s right to decide
moralitywhat medical procedures are available for the rest of us.”Hope you don’t mind, cwaltz. Your third sentence captured it best.
Actually ,right now everyone does not have access to birth control. Don’t know where you get that assertion.
Funny thing, I don’t hear the bishops complaining about paying for antibiotics? Or do you think that when God gives someone pneumonia He really doesn’t mean for them to have pneumonia?
Religious clerics have no business making medical decisions for others. Birth control is a medical decision. I don’t know where you get the idea it should be otherwise. It should be treated like any other medical treatment and between the doctor and the individual.
Yep, good point. A bunch of random men shouldn’t be allowed to decide whether or not I have access to a medical treatment because THEY disagree with it.
This is one of the reasons I despised the abortion debate. You give a religious zealot an inch they take a mile.
I’m not comfortable with my health care plan being the Lord’s prayer on a notecard and a set of rosary beads.
I’ve seen on this web-site and at the Huffington post, and at different Newspapers all across the country that 98% of women use birth control at some point in their life. . .
How is it possible that 98% of women use bith control, yet “access” is so limited that we have to mandate that it be covered in every health insurance policy? This will increase the cost for everyone, even people that don’t want this coverage (old people, people under 10 years old, married couples trying to get pregnant, asexual people… etc).
Why doesn’t the President just mandate that all Drug Stores have to give condoms and birth control pills to all their customers?
Can’t you see that the Drug stores would have to increase their prices on everything else or go out of business?
In California we can go on-line and order “free of charge” 10 condoms per month, delivered to your home (State and Federal funded program).
Public Schools give away condoms, Planned Parenthood provides free birth control.
I stand by my statement that access to birth control is not a problem in this country, and this new policy will only serve to increase the cost of insurance.
Have you even ever been to a Planned Parenthood? Based on your assertion that they provide free birth control I’m going to assume- NOT.
If I get to pay for vasectomies and prostate cancer then you can suck it up and help pay for birth control.