President Obama spoke for the first time on the Trayvon Martin case today, calling it a “tragedy” and that “it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this.”
African-American leaders have been calling on the President to speak out about the case which has caused a national outcry. Some noted that Obama personally called Sandra Fluke, the Georgetown law student vilified by Rush Limbaugh over her Congressional testimony on the birth control mandate, but has made no such gesture to, say, the parents of Martin.
Obama opened his remarks saying that he didn’t want to impair any legal process, particularly the ongoing Justice Department investigation. But he added this:
“I think all of us have to do some soul searching to figure out how does something like this happen,” said Obama. “And that means we examine the laws and the context for what happened, as well as the specifics of the incident.”
Obama said, “My main message is to the parents of Trayvon Martin… if I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon. I think they are right to expect that all of us as Americans are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves and we’re going to get to the bottom of what happened.” The remarks came at the end of his announcement of the nomination of Jim Yong Kim to head the World Bank. It was the only question he took, and it appeared the White House wanted to give him space to answer it.
The reference to examining the laws and the context is a fairly clear reference to the “stand your ground” law, the NRA-promoted measure that allows citizens to hold their ground and even use deadly force if they feel threatened, claiming self-defense. “Justified” self-defense killings in Florida have tripled since the advent of that law. In the wake of the Martin case, civil rights leaders and other advocates have called for a re-examination of it.
For weeks Trayvon Martin’s death occasioned no response from pretty much anybody. Now the President of the United States is talking about it. That’s a victory for the activism work put into this tragedy. Now it’s time for results.





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Thank you for continuing to cover this. I think the tragic case of Trayvon Martin could be what galvanizes voters into an historic Democractic 2012 turnout. I don’t mean to make light of what happened, but it is events such as this that can really change the outcome of an election.
The Republican Party, particularly in Florida, has a real mess on their hands. Make no mistake, this it was a right-wing stand-your-ground law that precipitated the murder of Trayvon Martin, and it was institutional racism that lets his murderer walk free today.
I can’t believe how angry I am about this case and the total lack of justice — so glad to see this getting the coverage it deserves.
But with this post, I want to bring up one point — and that is Obama doesn’t “want to impair any legal process” in this particular case in which I agree, but he had no problem declaring Bradley Manning guilty.
OMG.
Just watch, the next thing is gonna be a sit down in the Rose Garden over beers with Zimmerman, Trayvon’s parents and Biden.
My concern is Zimmerman is going to commit suicide, in which case there will be no trial, and the stand your ground law will live on, as is, until another tragedy occurs.
I am no fan of Obama, but O is at his best when addressing issues of race and equality. His speech on race is the reason I voted for him in spite of FISA. I hope Obama speaks more to this.
My thought exactly.
@5 Obama always addresses issues well when speaking — it’s his follow up that is lacking and disappointing.
seems all three repuke candidates are on board with the left on this one
the moon will be blue tonight
from think progress;
One of my wife’s professors drew comparisons between Obama and Hitler a few weeks back. Not in the GOP ‘ZOMG he’s a FASCIST!’ sense, but in how powerful a speaker both men were/are. Hitler, aside from being possibly the most evil person to walk the earth in the past 100 years, was an incredible public speaker. Without his orating skills he never would have been able to advance his agenda as far as he did.
Obama won the 2008 presidential election through his ability to speak to a broader issue, and then sentence by sentence bring it down to a personal level and touch the heart and mind of each listener. He does that here, and gives a wonderful response to a tough question.
In the heat of the moment, I can remember why I voted for the guy.
Hopefully major networks will carry this sound bite, not just MSNBC. Trayvon Martin’s family deserves justice, Florida deserves this scrutiny, and reaching a broader audience will hopefully serve to raise public awareness and outrage.
that is a very good point. I am with you on that observation!
Pierce has a post up on this…
“. . . I’ve got to be careful about my statements . . .” Like you were regarding Bradley Manning? What a pillar this guy is. What sincere and comforting words.
How unwelcome to want to find humor here; doesn’t work.
You’re entitled to your opinion, johndeconker, but do you really object to the President, a man of color, speaking about a tragedy affecting a youth of color? Rather than hide your opinion behind innuendo, just come right out and say what you mean.
I just want to make clear, before anyone takes offense to that comparison, that I’m speaking solely to Obama’s skills as a public speaker. One could also draw comparisons to John F. Kennedy, Dr. King, Jr., and other great speakers throughout history.
President Obama may not realize this but Trayvon Martin is not about O nor being O’s son.
It is indeed tragic and my heart breaks… again. When murder can be justified without due process, innocent children will die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=phrXBQZg_AU
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/anwar-al-awlakis-son-killed-in-yemen/story-e6frg6n6-1226167478529
http://gonsugimoto0.tripod.com/id31.html
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/3/6/attorney_general_eric_holder_defends_legality
“Political language… is designed to make lies sound
truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity
to pure wind.” George Orwell
Oh, I agree completely. I’m not sure what O can actually do around this killing other than speak, though.
yes it’s sad.
this, which doesn’t seem to matter at all, is also sad:
ABCnews
Evelyn Holmes and Sarah Schulte
Shorter Obama:
Get shot wearing a hoodie at 18: you’re a victim.
Get drone bombed at 16: tough shit.
on edit, that should include infants, women, and any other non-combatant of any age.
I certainly think he realizes that and also realizes that he speaks for the nation.
Obviously the 16-year-old son of Anwar al-Awlaki looks nothing like what Obama’s son would look like.
I think you are being inflammatory on purpose. Certainly President Obama knows that what happened to Trayvon Martin is not about himself. The President is self-aware. That he made a brief statement to remind everyone that a black man is President sets the right tone.
I think what President Obama understands is race is still an issue in the United States, even with an African American President. He is speaking to that when he says Trayvon Martin looks like him.
Who is trying to find humor in this?
You?
Okay, Barack Obama is a phony who will talk a good game but not follow up for shit on anything important.
He plays up a incident like this while not ever doing anything about the circumstances that are destroying the black community like the racist War on Drugs.
And for you insinuating that I am a racist – Fuck You.
You’re conflating the military killing a man accused of engaging in terrorist acts with a child accused of looking shifty and wearing a hoodie. Outstanding.
Don’t try to argue that you were making a serious comment….Or, Have it your way and be wrong.
George Zimmerman is the perfect example of the US paranoid-schizo warfare attitude. The comparison is totally legit seeing as how the asshole in chief can see the injustice in one killing of an innocent and ignore the injustice of killing thousands himself.
No, I was calling you crass. “Racist” is your word, I’m afraid.
Indeed. Once again, the deeper, larger, more fundamental related issues and context go unremarked upon by our “leaders,” and we are left with only so many pretty words–and subsequent actions that contradict them. “Soul-searching” is in order?! What a sick, dismissive joke. That and the collective, public thought that should follow are the last things our “leaders” will engage in.
I think the comparison was between two killings for which the official legal justifications are weak and extreme at best and transparently bullshit at worst.
Exactly! Obama and ilk engage in the same relativistic, violent objectification in regard to foreign policy that fearful gun-toters do. And then we all wonder where the Zimmermans of the world get their ideas and rationalizations. It’s all cut from the same cloth.
O is doing what he does best: make a speech (what Kris in TX said). O is also doing what the POTUS is supposed to do: address inflamatory issues in some heartfelt way. On that level: all well and good, and mostly O did it well.
Doesn’t change a thing in how I feel about his miserable record as POTUS, nor the fact that O had not one whit of a problem – alleged “Constitutional Law Prof” that he is – declaring Pfc Bradley Manning “guilty” before even being charged with anything.
Whatever… my heart goes out to Trayvon Martin’s family. A senseless tragedy, mostly encouraged by increasingly incendiary and racist language from rightwing talk/hate “media” (Fox & Rush: I’m looking at you).
Hello, anybody out there who remembers the race riots of 1967,1968 and the Rodney King riots ?
Turn up the heat, throw in a long hot, and I mean hot , summer cut the social safety net like a basketball net and what will be the final straw ? It wouldn’t have been possible without the foundation laid up by the few racist pigs in positions of power now and before, the covert haters.
Polish up those speaking skills Mr. President you may need them for more than asking for donations this summer.
At any rate the rally last night was impressive, news reports state upwards of 10k showed up (had to work, couldn’t go). What was most interesting, according to reporters, there were no cops anywhere. A police helicopter circled above at the beginning and again at the end but not the whole time. I’m sure there were plenty undercover but they made their presence scarce.
I’m not sure of the motivation for the prediction about the sit-down-with-beer. However, I think it is a good case of “pattern recognition”.
1. Local racial issue gets national attention.
2. Obama makes a statement urging action without having all facts.
3. Republicans and other hostile parties chastise Obama.
4. Beers all around.
It sounds likely to happen again.
Excellent point, but then if Obama had a son he wouldn’t look like Bradley Manning or any of the other whistle blowers his administration has decided to prosecute/persecute.
Still clutching that partisan issue? By your definition is Obama a Republican, Democrat, or just another in a long line of Corporate puppets?
I take your point, but honestly I do think this is a political hot potato for the GOP. I think the commentary thus far proves it. I think Obama’s stepping into the discussion proves it. More proof is that every GOP Presidential candidate has also made a statement about Trayton Martin.
As for my definition of Obama, I think he is sincerely a Democrat, but to be a member of either major party today requires a great willingness to be puppeteered. I think Obama is more resistant to getting his strings pulled than the entire cast of GOP candidates, and I think he is proud to pull in so much money in chunks under $100. Do you see it differently?
Thanks for the agreement. You’re incorrect on one point though, the comparison that surlawda and I were making was not about Anwar al-Awlaki, but his 16 year old son and friend.
Two different drone hits. One on a SUSPECTED (note: not proven to a court contrary to the Constitution) terrorist based on some secret committee, and then another on his KID, days later.
“He sure looked like a terrist to me,” was heard to be uttered by the officer commanding the strike./s
Al-Awalaki’s son was not a militant. Neither are the hundreds of civilian who have been killed in these attacks. Civilians! Women and children. You ask them to explain the difference when their babies are killed in their cribs by a bomb coming through the ceiling.
The wimp ass, mealy mouth, tail between their legs Democrats got us here with their silence as these laws were imposed upon us. This racial deviousness, that has never been addressed in a solution oriented fashion, should have been stood up against by the Democrats instead silence .
A Democratic landslide with the current President re-elected won’t stop the oppression/recession we suffer at the PTB hands.
Sit your lying ass down in front of the collateral murder video, make that same statement, and then go visit Brad Manning in the stockade, Mr. Presididn’t.
You are right. He was al-Qaeda. According to Wikipedia:
I’m not in any way trying to demean the very real tragedy and loss of life in Afghanistan. It just so happens that this news story on FDL has nothing to do with Afghanistan, or Bradley Manning for that matter.
I agree, it’s been a long slide to where we are today. Things could be a lot better. We could still be enjoying peace and prosperity if Clinton had been elected for 2 more terms, but alas we find ourselves eating a shit sandwich. Democrats and Republicans are at fault, I agree. However, where I think we disagree is that I think Democrats are by-and-large rational and fair actors in our politics. I feel Republicans are not. Maybe I’m a fool and if Obama is elected things will not get better as you say. I audaciously hope you are wrong, however.
Cheers.
This post has to do with Barack Obama’s “heartfelt” comments regarding the killing of an innocent 17 year old kid.
You really can’t see the hypocrisy of that same guy ordering a hit on a 16 year old because he was a
black guy wearing a hoodiea muslim wearing a turban having dinner with some friends?The country was Yemen, BTW.
Labeling people and killing them with an itchy trigger finger is what we’re discussing, not the presididn’t's re-election.
Which presidential candidate received the bulk of Wall Street contributions in the 2008 campaign? Which currently serving President picked an economic team that was responsible for the legislation that deregulated the Banks and the derivatives market. Which cabinet member is a Kissinger disciple, was tasked with oversight of Wall Street, which he neglected, thereby enabling the current economic, and still serves as Treasury Sec.?
And no, you don’t see my point, otherwise you wouldn’t use the GOP or Dem label when referring to those (s)elected individuals who are nothing more than Corporate puppets, pimps, and prostitutes who use labels and rhetoric to distract you from the Kabuki Theater.
Here’s a quiz for you botazefa:
Trayvon Martin is to Gangsta
As Abdulrahman al-Awlaki is to ______
A. Raghead
B. Haji
C. Al Queda
D. Obama’s imaginary son
You do realize that Clinton supported and signed the legislation(Financial Services Modernization Act) that deregulated banks, and derivatives(Commodities Futures Modernization Act), that were major contributors to the economic disaster. He also retained Alan “70% Correct” Greenspan as head of the Federal Reserve Bank. Clinton was just another grifter masquerading as a man of the people. That’s why G.H.W.Bush adopted him. You should really educate yourself before coming to FDL and making unsupportable comments.
This story has everything to do with Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan, you name it. When your president and your government go around killing whomever they want, whenever they want, and then that same president has the audacity to claim that this Trayvon Martin incident is in an injustice is nothing but hypocrisy at its highest level. It’s absolutely disgusting. Obama needs to just keep his fucking mouth shut.
In the first place, the administration has never provided any evidence that al-Awlaki was a member of al Qaeda–instead they are relying on people to assume what they read in Wikipedia is just true. In the second place, I said nothing about al-Awlaki, I was talking about his son, and the hundreds of civilian children and adults have been killed just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time by a drone campaign the legality and morality of which, as hotdog points out, are just as suspect as the morality of stand your ground laws (which, sadly, are legal, thanks to politicians of all parties)
You are a mean person.
The president at his best–a recapitulation of the 2008 Obama at his finest moments. I say this as much as I dislike his presidency (and I absolutely will not vote for him again).
You are saying that Zimmerman shooting Martin in Florida, USA, is the same as President Obama ordering a drone to kill an al-Qaeda operative in Afghanistan. I disagree with that analysis.
Sorry I got the country wrong. Yes, it was Yemen, not Afghanistan.
Anwar al-Awlaki was not a 16 year old. I feel that you are choosing words to try to frame the situation to meet your agenda. The President making a battlefield decision is not a “guy ordering a hit.” The person in question, Anwar al-Awlaki, was not just a “Muslim wearing a turban,” he was an active agent of al Qaeda. Furthermore, he wasn’t having dinner with friends, he was recruiting people to fight in a holy war against the United States. It’s all about perception. You see a deceptive central government in the US that is rotten to the core and led by a capricious leader. I see a country striving to do its best in a world that breeds groups like al-Qaeda. I see a President making very difficult decisions that you know neither you nor I would ever have to make.
That’s it for me today. Nice chatting with everyone.
O knows it’s not about himself bc it took him 25 days to figure out to say it’s about himself.
Your comment stuck with me on the drive home, so I’m back online just to say… your comment is very clever indeed. Clearly, I can’t argue and you are right. He didn’t bring it up until he saw it would profit him politically. And Boom! goes the dynamite.
I have a very low tolerance level when it comes to blatant displays of ignorance. Be grateful for the facts I provided to you so you don’t make the same ill informed comments in the future.
Interesting exchange, you definitely know your facts!
No one cares what your tolerance level is. Move out of your mother’s basement and get a job you crybaby.
holeybuybull… thanks for the truth.
Unfortunately there are still way to many people who prefer to not know the truth.
BOTH the Democrats and Republicans are corrupt to their very core… equally… and all of our fraudulent “leaders” are owned lock, stock and barrel by criminals and wealthy special interests.
This is the second time in this thread that you have resorted to ad hominem attack instead of a thoughtful response. Surely, you can do better.
Why have you ignored statements in the comments @17 @22 @41 @42 and @52 that the comparison was to the killing of Al-Awlaki’s son Abdulrahman, not Anwar Al-Awlaki.
Not even Wikipedia or the President claim that the son was “al-Qaeda.” No one claims he was anything other than a 16 year-old sitting down to dinner with his friends.
You appear to approve of the President’s dispensing of the rule of law based on an unsubstantiated claim of an al-Qaeda connection. If you finally understand that the 16 year-old son was killed without even that claim, do you approve of that as well? Is there a point at which you would demand that the rule of law kick in again?
I don’t necessarily mean for you to answer those questions here, just hope you will consider the implications of this readiness to dismiss the rule of law. I fear that once it’s gone, it’s gone, and no one’s sons or daughters are safe.
Well, if this tragedy gets fascist Trojan horse civil-liberties revoker Obama re-elected, then obviously it was all worth it. If we could just get some more white people to kill some more black children, we would have an even better margin of victory for Obummer./s
That revealed a lot.
Just reinforces the reality of my previous comments. Considering that I’m in my 60′s, own my home free and clear, and have minimal debts, it’s possible that “botazefa” is just another projecting troll. By the way, my mother’s house doesn’t have a basement.
Rosebud lol. Every childhood should include a basement. ;-)